A Chronological Retelling of the Final Fantasy House | Down the Rabbit Hole Extra

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Narration performed by DukeLovesYou
    Twitter: @DukeLovesYou
    Graphic Design by Arcaxon
    Twitter: @Arcaxon
    Fredrik Knudsen:
    Twitter: @FredInTheKnud
    Patreon: / fredrikknudsen

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  • @feloniousbutterfly
    @feloniousbutterfly 6 лет назад +1743

    My guess is, wherever they are, they smell really, really bad.

  • @shinybirb2114
    @shinybirb2114 6 лет назад +10

    This clears so much up! The images with tags helped, too. Nothing wrong with the longer version, but there were so many names, and so much going on, it did get hard to follow. Thank you to everyone involved for an excellent video, and keep up the good work!

  • @warrirornunluv801
    @warrirornunluv801 6 лет назад +17

    These people are both pitiful and terrifying.

  • @MoneyLaunderinSam
    @MoneyLaunderinSam 6 лет назад

    I'm a longtime fan, sorry if I don't comment as much anymore. I love finding newer channels and seeing their content, and I'm happy you've grown but now I no longer have that same curiosity

  • @Autumn_Actually
    @Autumn_Actually 6 лет назад +2

    Excellent voiceover work and graphics, really simplified this big mess for my mind! Perhaps y'all could collaborate again should any more complicated timelines emerge from the rabbithole.

  • @HarmonySword
    @HarmonySword 6 лет назад +2

    This could easily be a horror movie

  • @hk47warlord
    @hk47warlord 6 лет назад +3

    So, I know it doesn't matter, but the college of Penn State is NOT a state college, rather a private university. The town Penn State resides is named "State College", despite the fact that Penn State is not a college in the state system. It makes no sence and is a joke among locals about how stupid it is. (Source: I lived in the area most of my life)

    • @planaritytheory
      @planaritytheory 6 лет назад

      Well to jump on your theme of being nit-picky, PSU is a University not a College (the video got this wrong too). Also, it _is_ public for all intents and purposes, just look at the description on the psu.edu homepage: "Penn State is a major, public, research-I university serving Pennsylvania and the global community. "
      It seems to be a weird public/private hybrid system that PA uses. For the things people actually care about, like cheaper in-state tuition, and issues regarding the 1st amendment, it's essentially a public institution.
      If anyone cares, they can read the details here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_System_of_Higher_Education
      The other common confusion that arises with respect to penn state is that the University of Pennsylvania is an unrelated truly private ivy-league school located in Philadelphia.

  • @Sgt-Wolf
    @Sgt-Wolf 5 лет назад

    Crazy cults (and bastard's) never change.

  • @NobleNemesis
    @NobleNemesis 5 лет назад +1

    Fredrik, where did you find this golden-voiced narrator? He's brilliant. lol

  • @ursusAmericanus
    @ursusAmericanus 3 года назад

    Just to clarify for people: there is no Pennsylvania State College, it's Pennsylvania State University in the town of State College, PA

  • @Username26425
    @Username26425 6 лет назад

    This is so interesting!

  • @DukeLovesYou
    @DukeLovesYou 6 лет назад +3647

    I really enjoyed narrating this. Fredrik gave me great direction for reading lines, and on a personal note, he's one of the nicest people I've ever had the pleasure of working with.

    • @kotetsujeeg7999
      @kotetsujeeg7999 6 лет назад +49

      BASED DUKE

    • @ofoosy
      @ofoosy 6 лет назад +55

      DUKE.
      YOUR DELICIOUS VOICE IS BACK

    • @HonestTries
      @HonestTries 6 лет назад +16

      Nice job, man! Would love to listen to more narrations by you!

    • @DukeLovesYou
      @DukeLovesYou 6 лет назад +34

      Thank you! I hope I can start doing more of them.

    • @Hail2TheGun
      @Hail2TheGun 6 лет назад +11

      holy shit duke, it's been ages! I didn't know you were still around, thank you for doing good work!!!

  • @ghostgirl7089
    @ghostgirl7089 6 лет назад +3931

    Ive watched the original Down the Rabbit Hole video, and i was so confused. It wasn’t because of you, i think these people were just so confusing that it was hard to figure out! Thank you for this

    • @TheRibbonRed
      @TheRibbonRed 6 лет назад +180

      Ghostgirl 708 well, it's a house filled with NEETs that changes characters and personalities of their own convenience at the dispense of others. If it was easy to figure out, they wouldn't get away that easy.

    • @dandhan87
      @dandhan87 6 лет назад +15

      I had to watch it thrice to make complete sense of it

    • @ohitsstar1241
      @ohitsstar1241 6 лет назад +2

      Oh fuck it’s you again, jfc

    • @oed706
      @oed706 6 лет назад +31

      There's more vids on this, looked up tattlecrime. Basically after the FF house Jen went on to do the same with the Hannibal fandom, and shit got real.

    • @ImproperNoun
      @ImproperNoun 6 лет назад +22

      I think it's also the names they all pick in the house, it's hard to keep track of who's who without a thing like this. This video goes great along with the extensive look.

  • @vixen_9962
    @vixen_9962 5 лет назад +959

    I legitimately thought Greta and Jen were the same person, thank you for this lmao

    • @Durlomthir
      @Durlomthir 4 года назад +73

      To be fair, that story is really confusing because of contradictory facts or misunderstandings : a lot of people think or tell "Sarah" from the "Sarah Saga" is Jen, other say the "Sarah Saga" is a fake, others tell that Sarah is the one that joined the Hannibal Fandom, not Jen (that would be weird because Sarah - if I remember correctly - is vegan and Jen is the one with red meat obsession), etc etc.

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories 4 года назад +1

      @@Durlomthir I swore Sarah was Jen. So is Sarah angel?

    • @Durlomthir
      @Durlomthir 4 года назад +6

      @@MosEisleyCantinaStories If I remind the theories, people think Sarah was Aerith from FF House, but even that isn't certain.
      As I said, about the whole Sarah saga, some people think it was a fake and even a slander against someone who did nothing, but well, some people could as well pretend it was fake to defend themselves or other people.
      The authenticity of the FF House is very clear and the whole Hannibal fandom sequel confirms some of it, but even there, there are some grey areas.
      The whole Sarah saga could be an elaborate fake inspired by the FF house, a libel/slander or a true story, but that's where it is really confusing.

    • @teethgrinder83
      @teethgrinder83 4 года назад +5

      @@Durlomthir it's all so confusing because of all the different people plus their "soul bonded" aliases, too many names to keep up with who is who haha got to say though the whole story is so batshit insane, its like car crash TV. I did a cursery Google check after watching the original vid and some woman with the same name as Jen (Jennifer Cornet) who's written some books and is selling homemade face masks on etsy kept popping up-I couldn't help wondering if the poor woman has been falsely harassed

    • @Durlomthir
      @Durlomthir 4 года назад

      @@teethgrinder83 Yes, that's probably someone with the same name, not the one who ran the Hannibal fandom website tattle-crime and did a lot of terrible stuff that was even worse than the whole FF house thing.
      They don't look exactly the same.

  • @Granetdud
    @Granetdud 6 лет назад +2343

    "It's suspected they moved onto the Hannibal fandom"
    ...uh oh.

    • @SpaceshipMansions
      @SpaceshipMansions 6 лет назад +89

      look up tattlecrime.org

    • @diobolikal5739
      @diobolikal5739 6 лет назад +177

      Yep. And Jen turned some of the fandom into her cult. Indoctrinated them like the Reapers. It’s some interesting, yet creepy stuff.

    • @ida6950
      @ida6950 6 лет назад +5

      I had the same thought

    • @linuscontinental2223
      @linuscontinental2223 6 лет назад +115

      >suspected
      It’s confirmed lol

    • @12345678900987659101
      @12345678900987659101 6 лет назад +27

      Will we see a sequel about that?

  • @Atlastheyote222
    @Atlastheyote222 2 года назад +158

    Shoutout to Cid for being an beacon of sanity in this entire thing and helping Zack escape.

  • @cobalt2257
    @cobalt2257 6 лет назад +749

    Hey Cid...If you're reading this, just wanted to let you know that you're the real MVP of the story. I really hope Zach is okay, as well as everyone else manipulated by Jen and Renee. Especially you.

    • @KOTEBANAROT
      @KOTEBANAROT 6 лет назад +166

      Cobalt225 kinda funny that the dudes "bonded" to good guys in the story really were the most decent here while the jenova girl really acted like an evil alien messing with peoples minds

    • @StephanieMorehart
      @StephanieMorehart 6 лет назад +1

      Same

    • @Tyschnydes
      @Tyschnydes 6 лет назад +50

      it me The girl “bonded” to Arieth is the one who started the second cult...

    • @AngelusOrpheus
      @AngelusOrpheus 6 лет назад +40

      TySchnydes 23 well Aerith died in the actual game so 😂 maybe zombie Aerith is evil

    • @cobalt2257
      @cobalt2257 6 лет назад +22

      Square Enix better make a zombie Aerith boss for the remake...

  • @Theevil6ify
    @Theevil6ify 6 лет назад +989

    This sounds like stuff that would occur in a hippie commune in the 60s, except with video games and pure mental illness instead of drugs and rock and roll

    • @stormcloudsabound
      @stormcloudsabound 6 лет назад +26

      isn't "pure mental illness" kind of an oxymoron

    • @Mercurio2435
      @Mercurio2435 5 лет назад +37

      You don't know much about cults if you think that the only thing they involved was drugs and rock and roll. Read about Jim Jones and Charles Manson. Those depended on mental illness to survive.

    • @Awchshonear
      @Awchshonear 5 лет назад +1

      There was cid, wasn't there?

    • @TheEtherny
      @TheEtherny 5 лет назад +9

      Maybe in the future this will sound glamorous like drugs and rock and roll lol

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 4 года назад

      @@TheEtherny I mean con culture does right now doesn't it?

  • @FredrikKnudsen
    @FredrikKnudsen  6 лет назад +1305

    A special thank you to Duke and Arcaxon for making this video possible. Both were an absolute pleasure to work with. I did my best to make the events of the original video comprehensible while still presenting it in the way that the internet learned of it, but after I realized that it still was unclear to many viewers, I decided to make this follow-up video. Hopefully this helps clarify things.

    • @phillipj.benson9497
      @phillipj.benson9497 6 лет назад +2

      Fredrik Knudsen bless up dude, this video helps big time

    • @mattmethodous7952
      @mattmethodous7952 6 лет назад +1

      S e L R a H C S S o R me too 😍 always excited to see a new video from freddy

    • @djhenyo
      @djhenyo 6 лет назад +2

      If the FF House trio really turned to focus on the Hannibal fandom to "spirit bond" then they will likely be the next Manson Family.

    • @zacharyjmh5673
      @zacharyjmh5673 6 лет назад +1

      Love your videos man, but "incredulous viewers" would have been a bit cleaner than "dubious viewers." I'm questioning, not questionable ;)

    • @keith9129
      @keith9129 6 лет назад +1

      Have you considered taking over the comprehensive history of chris Chan series since genos quit?

  • @haruokumura4271
    @haruokumura4271 4 года назад +668

    This had everything. Villains, heroes, plot twist, betrayals, recurring characters, storylines spanning multiple arcs. It's almost like an actual video game.

    • @billman__1010
      @billman__1010 3 года назад +12

      Do we need some game designers for this?

    • @Buethollemew
      @Buethollemew 3 года назад +22

      what are the chances we have been sucked into an elaborate ARG

    • @KingRumar
      @KingRumar 2 года назад +5

      Kinda left us on a cliffhanger where they're still out there.

    • @sweetpotatofries99
      @sweetpotatofries99 2 года назад +2

      Fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love, and miracles!

    • @eugeneedgeworth1436
      @eugeneedgeworth1436 Год назад +1

      @@sweetpotatofries99Created and directed by Hideo Kojima

  • @psycholonya
    @psycholonya 4 года назад +763

    In short, Cid’s a genuine dude who looks out for his homies.

    • @sonsoyeah760
      @sonsoyeah760 3 года назад +78

      Just like in the game

    • @Horologica
      @Horologica 3 года назад +31

      The only sane person

    • @overlordtealover1128
      @overlordtealover1128 3 года назад +18

      @@Horologica the only real homie

    • @daggerfalls101
      @daggerfalls101 3 года назад +85

      Honestly. I wonder if he recognized the craziness and was intentionally playing along to be an out for those who wake up and see the bullshit for what it is

    • @SpikeRazzor
      @SpikeRazzor 3 года назад +24

      I hope he's doing ok.

  • @Infernape7890
    @Infernape7890 6 лет назад +238

    The fact that Jen and her friend targetted people who had mental problems disgusts me.

    • @chadschmaltz9790
      @chadschmaltz9790 6 лет назад +1

      Gargoyle nice Lexington picture for your profile. Of all the Gargoyles characters, he was my favorite.

    • @bigmike8586
      @bigmike8586 4 года назад +3

      They're literally the easiest targets, can you blame em

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 4 года назад +8

      I don't think they targeted it specifically given you know they communicated to any soulbounders

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories 4 года назад +4

      I think it disgusts any of us with mental illnesses

  • @themojogamer75
    @themojogamer75 6 лет назад +634

    And you thought Kingdom Hearts had a bizarre timeline...

    • @healinggrounds19
      @healinggrounds19 6 лет назад +28

      Mojo Kor I am surprised they aren't a cult based on KoH!

    • @cibor07
      @cibor07 5 лет назад +10

      It does, but this is more disturbing because this was real life and these people were probably mentally ill.

    • @TheDiego908
      @TheDiego908 5 лет назад +5

      OMEGGA Not really. It's like comparing the mainstream Marvel comics and the MCU

    • @exidy-yt
      @exidy-yt 4 года назад +3

      ​@@healinggrounds19 Methinks Disney would jump in with both feet legal-wise if a cult started recruiting victims based on characters of Disney's IP.

    • @cesarchavez922
      @cesarchavez922 4 года назад +2

      @@healinggrounds19 organisation 13 real? Lmao

  • @Kevin_Street
    @Kevin_Street 5 лет назад +278

    This was like watching an FBI briefing on some dangerous cult, or maybe an episode of Unsolved Mysteries (yes I'm old) just before the part where Robert Stack mentions the phone number viewers can call if they have any information.
    "These individuals are dangerous. If you encounter them please call our hotline or contact your local authorities. Do not approach them or give them any of your financial information - and whatever you do, DO NOT allow them to bond your soul to any characters, fictional or otherwise."

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories 4 года назад +1

      Great now I feel old too

    • @dakota7745
      @dakota7745 Год назад +6

      Its too late. Im now bonded with garfield and now need a plate of lasagna and souls.

    • @yemmohater2796
      @yemmohater2796 Год назад

      It straight up is a literal cult

  • @TheBanMan
    @TheBanMan 6 лет назад +1579

    I still love the idea of this Cid guy. Just some neckbeard who likes LARPing and hangs out with these freaks because they all play FFVII

    • @stumaxwell9097
      @stumaxwell9097 5 лет назад +74

      Yeah he's like Gerry from "tales from the gas station" lol

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 5 лет назад +3

      @@stumaxwell9097 lool

    • @geonosian3457
      @geonosian3457 5 лет назад +168

      Cid is the only good person in this story

    • @jcnot9712
      @jcnot9712 5 лет назад +263

      And who was sane enough to at one point say “fuck these people. This isn’t right” and help the kid out.

    • @JJAB91
      @JJAB91 5 лет назад +223

      Zach wasn't so bad, just easily manipulated and naive.

  • @MillRunner
    @MillRunner 6 лет назад +398

    The Hannibal fandom is one of the worst places for insane people who believe they're fictional characters.

    • @revaryk6868
      @revaryk6868 6 лет назад +42

      Especially considering the subject matter of Hannibal.
      Hannibal rhymes with cannibal, after all.

    • @MillRunner
      @MillRunner 6 лет назад +15

      Revvy Frostina That's exactly my point.

    • @andreyv.vieira521
      @andreyv.vieira521 6 лет назад +18

      That´s why I said: Like we say in Brazil, *THIS WILL END IN SHIT!*

  • @dankspiderman579
    @dankspiderman579 4 года назад +111

    I'm really glad that Zack left when he did, and that Cid decided to help him, those two people seemed to be one of the few people in the story with a head on their shoulders. Dunno what to say about Gretta though, she seemed sane enough, willing to finally say 'enough is enough', give Jen the ultimate 'fuck you' and have her own soulbonding place, maybe she's the Anakin Skywalker of this story and went into the dark side.

    • @gerragotheallidile
      @gerragotheallidile 2 года назад

      Who knows? Maybe she realized that the whole soulbonding was stupid, and gave up on it?

  • @Arcaxon
    @Arcaxon 6 лет назад +409

    I loved working on the design of the show, I'm so glad I was able to help!

    • @lifedecoded9842
      @lifedecoded9842 6 лет назад +9

      You did a really good job dude - the overall design was solid & easy to follow.

    • @YaroslaffFedin
      @YaroslaffFedin 6 лет назад +2

      The infographic payload part could be better. Current one does not serve any structural or informational purpose except making narration a little less bland. I would suggest to go for something that provides a better axis alignment next time where all characters would move forward in time constantly as horizontal path, and move vertically to cross their paths and reach milestones.
      overviewbible.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/acts-timeline1.png
      www.criticalcommons.org/Members/ebreilly/clips/wanderings-of-gollum-lotr-timeline/thumbnailImage

    • @Arcaxon
      @Arcaxon 6 лет назад +6

      Thanks for the feedback! I'll keep that in mind although, the point of the graphics was so people who are more visually inclined could visualize the names with the help of the character's bubbles and keep track of it easily as the narration went on thus giving a purpose other then making things "less bland". The style also was suppose to represent a more "conspiracy web" type thing. Although making a more horizontal timeline could be an interesting idea although harder to execute within a video.
      Once more, thank you very much for the feedback, it is quite appreciated! ^w^

    • @charlesballiet7074
      @charlesballiet7074 6 лет назад

      wait who is fred?

    • @Arcaxon
      @Arcaxon 6 лет назад +3

      Fredrik Knudsen the person who makes Down the Rabbit Hole and also the name of the channel.

  • @ohaidenny9852
    @ohaidenny9852 6 лет назад +151

    LOOKING FOR OTHERS SOUL BONDED WITH CONKERS THE SQUIRREL PLS @ ME

    • @ohaidenny9852
      @ohaidenny9852 6 лет назад +18

      Silver.Exe Ive been waiting for you for 17 years, sugartits! Cum get somma dez nuts

    • @adamlucas2203
      @adamlucas2203 4 года назад +2

      I soul bonded to that huge piece of shit Boss

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi 4 года назад +1

      I'm soulbonded to Wizpig, and I wish I'd been able to step on your dumb ass when I had the chance. Good riddance you nutty fuck, I'm glad you didn't make it into the DS remake. How's that Hololens working out for you, clamhat?

    • @hurricane15664
      @hurricane15664 4 года назад +2

      I'm soul bonded to that one npc that has like 2 lines and then gets gunned down in the saving private ryan level.
      But only the version of him from the remake, not the original, that's the guy in the apartment above mine.

    • @internettraveler8666
      @internettraveler8666 4 года назад +2

      I am the great mighty poo

  • @TheRealMangaWolf
    @TheRealMangaWolf 5 лет назад +85

    "they would leave for reasons unknown"
    "they were subjected to rituals where they had to lie on the floor"
    i think i know why they left

  • @wareforcoin5780
    @wareforcoin5780 6 лет назад +200

    This abridged version is very helpful. I'm trying to collect anything I can to help predict where Jennifer Cornett might crop up next. She's going to try this again, because she's predatory. Her interests suggest she's not a reader, and prefers lengthy entertainment commitments. TV shows and long video games. Anything dark in nature, specifically involving murder, the supernatural, or a combination thereof.
    From what I've been able to gather, she was shortly in the Van Helsing fandom some time after the FFVII house, and before her injection into Hannibal. She always identifies herself as a villain character. If it has a visually unique villain, and is a dark story, she's likely to be drawn to it. I'm keeping an eye out.

    • @FoxDragon
      @FoxDragon 6 лет назад +12

      I fear something related to GOT may be a possibility.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 5 лет назад

      Do you mean Hellsing with Alucard etc?

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 5 лет назад

      @@FoxDragon ohno!!

    • @TheDantedarkdemon201
      @TheDantedarkdemon201 4 года назад +5

      She went to the Hannibal community

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories 4 года назад +4

      If it sprawls out of anime/video games, I'd highly suggest watching any money heist groups. That may be her next target, by going as "the professor"

  • @altecsurtan4279
    @altecsurtan4279 6 лет назад +132

    I use to work at the north Atherton-walmart back then. Renee use to come in at night to go shopping and yes she would dress as Hojo. I can not recall anybody with her. She did not stink and was very talkative and normal beside her dress code. Granted we had short chats about video games especially about Final Fantasy seven and the theory it was based on Earth. State College back then was still grungy and had character, play-land was still active filled with stoned kids and cigarette smoke, nirvana's closet was on it last leg. Coffee shops and Asian restaurants. There was all kinds of weirdos back then, so she never stood out compared to the other the goths, punks, proto weebs and skaters. This really fucks with my head, never would of guessed what a hot mess she and her friends were behind closed doors.

    • @matheusaragao7640
      @matheusaragao7640 5 лет назад +1

      Wow. Just wow. Did you work with Zack?

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories 4 года назад +3

      I feel bad for Renee, I really do. She went thru hell, even with her mental issues.

    • @Wafflyy
      @Wafflyy 4 года назад

      Damn bro

    • @hawkmetzeta3599
      @hawkmetzeta3599 2 года назад +7

      I lived at Copper Beech in North Atherton around this time. Unbelievable these folks walked among us. I live way up north now but State College will forever be my favorite town. Miss that place so much. What I'd do to go back in time and don a Cait Sith cosplay to catch a glimpse of this horror from the inside.

    • @gerragotheallidile
      @gerragotheallidile 2 года назад +1

      @@MosEisleyCantinaStories I really hope she managed to escape her abusive relationship with Jen...

  • @michaelbuehler3897
    @michaelbuehler3897 6 лет назад +120

    You can make a cult out of anything.

    • @KOTEBANAROT
      @KOTEBANAROT 6 лет назад +16

      Szymonel_ there was a cult based around a dead parrot. yes, really.
      the dude who started it got millions out of it.

    • @ARedMagicMarker
      @ARedMagicMarker 5 лет назад +10

      Interestingly enough, avocados are 100% toxic to parrots.

    • @KHRification
      @KHRification 5 лет назад +4

      I'm gonna make a cult out of Pez candy. Who's in?

    • @mclatchyt
      @mclatchyt 3 года назад +2

      The Republican Party springs to mind.

    • @Reality.juiced
      @Reality.juiced 3 года назад

      @@ARedMagicMarker learn something new everyday

  • @ryanr.5158
    @ryanr.5158 6 лет назад +36

    I just realized something, I'm not an aimless loser, I'm just soulbonded to a Hollow from Dark Souls.

  • @codygaisser
    @codygaisser 5 лет назад +36

    I'm pretty sure it's real. When I found out about FF7 house a few years ago, I did a deep dive and was able to find a pretty good amount of info (some of which isn't in these videos). The easiest person to trace online is Aeris (aka Sarah), even though she kinda vanished a couple of years ago. I was able to find her birth name, legally changed name, multiple aliases, town of origin, last known location, accounts on several sites/forums/social media apps, and a lot of pictures, though I won't be posting any of that here. I also talked to a couple of people who supposedly knew the FF7 house crew. If it's fake, it's a very very elaborate hoax.

    • @dissolutezza1142
      @dissolutezza1142 6 месяцев назад

      Interested in learning more about this if you’re still around. I read about this house back in the day, before the DTRH video was posted. How can I get in touch?

  • @dgmetalhead
    @dgmetalhead 6 лет назад +61

    Having interacted with some otherkin people myself, these ones are only slightly more crazy than the average and I highly recommend avoiding such people.

    • @zad_rasera
      @zad_rasera 4 года назад +7

      "slightly?"

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 3 года назад +13

      @@zad_rasera most otherkin don't set up cults and defraud people of thousands of dollars, jus saying.

    • @Anonymous95202
      @Anonymous95202 2 года назад

      @@Warsie it wasn't fraud tbf just simple manipulation

  • @spacesandshark2418
    @spacesandshark2418 2 года назад +32

    Holy shit, Greta becoming Jen 2.0 was such a plot twist.

    • @SnailQueenForever
      @SnailQueenForever 10 месяцев назад +1

      She was her apprentice after all

    • @melodybaoin1425
      @melodybaoin1425 6 месяцев назад +5

      Just last year, the actual Greta or "Aeris" came out and her shared her side of the story in a website called the human exception. Turns out, the Sarah Saga is fake and is written by one of her abusive friends in her circle. There is a lot to uncover but I suggest you check her story out. You can also see updates on the current conditions of other former FF7 house like Zach and Mela. Consider it as a conclusion to this bizarre story.

    • @OverlordAbraxas
      @OverlordAbraxas 3 месяца назад

      ​@@melodybaoin1425where i can see All of that??

    • @RayOfTruth
      @RayOfTruth Месяц назад

      ​@@OverlordAbraxasThe Human Exception website has a page debunking the Sarah Saga, they got in contact with Aeris/Sarah provided proof.

    • @PastoKage
      @PastoKage 28 дней назад

      @@melodybaoin1425 link?

  • @suezuccati304
    @suezuccati304 Год назад +6

    Funny how Jen identifies with an alien who wants to suck the life out of the planet. Except she sucks the life out of her friends.

  • @JackHF2
    @JackHF2 6 лет назад +37

    This is like the Charlie Manson version of LARPing

  • @MasterOwl01
    @MasterOwl01 6 лет назад +132

    Can’t wait for the TattleCrime episode!

  • @keith9129
    @keith9129 6 лет назад +282

    This is easily one of the creepiest DTRH you’ve covered. It’s scary knowing there’s so many mentally ill people out there hurting others

    • @rainbowfury1019
      @rainbowfury1019 5 лет назад +2

      Well no shit. What do you think they're eating? Vegan Chicken Sandwhich?

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories 4 года назад +20

      I'm trying to think of a clear response but this is all I can think of.
      Jen was not "mentally ill" in the aspect of being depressed or hopeless. She was a narcissist. She prayed on the weaker mentally ill people who like myself deal with suicide and depression.

    • @keith9129
      @keith9129 4 года назад +2

      @@MosEisleyCantinaStories don’t try to humanize that monster. You guys deserve better and that jabberwocky’s actions will always seem like that of a demon to le

    • @Parasiteve
      @Parasiteve 3 года назад

      not only hurting others but taking advantage and hurting other mentally ill people.

    • @tj12711
      @tj12711 2 года назад +5

      @@keith9129 if you think "she's not mentally ill, she's a narcissist" is a humanizing statement then you either have: 1) an overly negative opinion of the mentally ill or 2) an overly positive opinion of narcissists. I hope for your sake it's the former, because there are few things more dangerous in this world than a narcissist.

  • @bunnybreaker
    @bunnybreaker 6 лет назад +61

    Seriously though, you can't just install fictional characters in yourself like Materia.

    • @tboon5155
      @tboon5155 6 лет назад +2

      Can't you???

    • @rgrimund2468
      @rgrimund2468 6 лет назад +1

      Wouldn't that just deny the existence of the summon materia? Pretty much the same idea

    • @sandordugalin8951
      @sandordugalin8951 4 года назад +7

      Someone obviously hasn't watched Advent Children.

    • @bunnybreaker
      @bunnybreaker 4 года назад

      @@sandordugalin8951 LMAO. That's pretty meta.

    • @Wafflyy
      @Wafflyy 4 года назад +1

      Bruh

  • @bruhmoment8108
    @bruhmoment8108 6 лет назад +110

    This needs to have a movie adaptation, perhaps every episode of down the rabbit hole needs a movie adaptation.

    • @violetofthevoid
      @violetofthevoid 6 лет назад +10

      maybe that could be the Spoony movie lol.

    • @PlasticKnight
      @PlasticKnight 6 лет назад +5

      cant wait to see dsp jerk off on film

    • @Gypsyblood777
      @Gypsyblood777 2 года назад

      I want to see a play where they're actually playing the ff7 characters lol

  • @u.srooster3880
    @u.srooster3880 Год назад +29

    Reading how Zack describes escaping with the help of Cid. After they escape Cid took him to his house and got Zack some beers where they talked about other JRPG games to calm down. And then allowed Zack to stay at his place for a while until his family could pick him up. It's just very in character-for Cid to do that. What a great guy. Also apparently Cid's roommates knew Jen, I like to think there were Barret and Tifa.

    • @nicolas4514
      @nicolas4514 10 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely Insane, this can't be real LMAO

  • @theevilgood
    @theevilgood 6 лет назад +25

    Small grievance.
    I believe "Angel" to be the "soul bond' name of the individual in question. Angel is a character from the prequel game, Crisis Core, and given the proclivities of Jen and her room mates I believe that this was not an anonymous person named Angel, as you've depicted here, but a person assigned the character of Angel by Jen.

    • @fireincarnation2
      @fireincarnation2 5 лет назад +8

      Yes, Angel's real name was Angelique, and she went by Anna before the final fantasy house.

  • @Fiddl3head
    @Fiddl3head 6 лет назад +379

    Man, you could easily make a great psycological horror movie out of this.
    Then again, it would probably be filled with jumpscares/too much disgusting imagery if it was made by modern day horror studios...

    • @unlimited-edge
      @unlimited-edge 6 лет назад +60

      dotz71000 I agree, maybe we could get some Indie makers to do it. Hell, the whole concept of the FF House is so surreal and bizarre only an indie person would dare to pick it up lol

    • @Fiddl3head
      @Fiddl3head 6 лет назад +29

      The problem is, the game Final Fantasy VII is an integral part of this story, but if you were to make a movie about it, you wouldn't be able to use it...

    • @spectre9792
      @spectre9792 6 лет назад +39

      UnlimitedEdge The only thing is, the filmmakers would have to scrub EVERY reference to Final Fantasy from the film (not that hard of a task, really) lest they face the wrath of SquareEnix's lawyers. (Not just for copyright issues, but for possible brand defamation.)
      Still, I'd see it.

    • @GOFFBITZH666
      @GOFFBITZH666 6 лет назад +21

      *_”Then again, it would probably be filled with jumpscares/too much disgusting imagery if it was made by modern day horror studios...”_*
      Implying that the Final Fantasy House isn’t any of that?

    • @Fiddl3head
      @Fiddl3head 6 лет назад +38

      Disgusting imagery, maybe.
      But Jumpscares have absolutely no right to be included in this hypothetical movie.
      If I may quote Jay from RLM: "A loud, bangy noise is not scary. It's startling; it might make you jump, but it will leave no impact on you."

  • @bobkillen2941
    @bobkillen2941 6 лет назад +45

    I love this channel, high quality, long form, and interesting content with superb writing. Honestly this is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels.

  • @violetofthevoid
    @violetofthevoid 6 лет назад +92

    I watched the dtrh on the final fantasy house and was confused to how the sarah saga connected to the "main storyline" thanks for clearing that up.

  • @foetectm577
    @foetectm577 4 года назад +14

    you could feasibly make this into an actual final fantasy plotline if you really wanted to

  • @bobstevenson3130
    @bobstevenson3130 3 года назад +23

    “They has grown quite close when they attended a Utah boarding school together” that explains a lot

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 3 года назад +1

      oh yea, there's crazy shit that happens in those concentration camps. I vaguely remember hearing stories about fucked up authoritarian shit in those youth camps they aend "bad kids" away to. And it's mainly white kids, black parents do different shitty stuff like beat their kids. Antinatalist arguments sure have some relevance huh...

    • @someonerandom704
      @someonerandom704 3 года назад +7

      As someone who's currently living in Utah, I've met a lot of people permanently damaged by either boarding schools, youth groups, or LDS cults.

    • @sporkles7427
      @sporkles7427 7 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@someonerandom704Same. I grew up in the church but luckily my immediate family wasn’t crazy about it. They do a great job of seeming happy and fulfilled on the surface, but the really orthodox ones I got to know turned out to be some of the most depressed and anxious people I’ve ever met. Really sad.

  • @dayvancubensis
    @dayvancubensis 6 лет назад +28

    I'm not sure that Jen's whereabouts and activities are unknown at the moment, I came across a site/blog titled TattleCrime that documents her activity online and the entire story so far. I'm pretty sure it's talking about the same person.

  • @kinsnuf
    @kinsnuf 6 лет назад +5

    God, this is so fucking bizzare. Like, I've unfortunately encountered worse. For example, the one person on Tumblr who stole human bones for witch rituals... Or the other person on Tumblr pretending be a disabled Asian American former sex worker with HIV + their own spouse, all to write a Hamilton fanfic... But this is just so weird because it happened in real life, which hardly seems to happen nowadays. At least not that I know of.

  • @healinggrounds19
    @healinggrounds19 6 лет назад +57

    I remember coming across Zack's LJ about the FF house when I was researching another story. I used to live in TN and there was a couple there who thought they were Trinity and Neo. I was researching "movie kins" and doing a story for the local paper. Some people need an identity so badly they will harvest one from anywhere...movies, anime, games.

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories 4 года назад

      Hey what part of TN if I may ask?

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 3 года назад

      hey can you link us the article you wrote?

    • @healinggrounds19
      @healinggrounds19 3 года назад +1

      @@Warsie this was back in the 90s before 'links'. Sorry. It was the Knoxville News Sentinel. I don't even know if that paper is still around? I have moved many times since then. Talk about blasts from the past!

    • @healinggrounds19
      @healinggrounds19 3 года назад +2

      @@Warsie I don't remember the name but I am pretty sure the year was 1996. My car was stolen that year! Tough year at college all around. Good luck. Let me know if you find it.

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 3 года назад

      @@healinggrounds19 ok, I emailed them to ask them about it. Might call tomorrow. What name did you write the article under (if you feel like revealing that shit online)? This is pretty interesting, as early as 1996 people were writing about this. I just vaguely remember some mid 90s stuff on "boomer the dog" but boomer was more furry than otherkin, and before then it was mainly you know an internet thing.

  • @breadmeister
    @breadmeister 6 лет назад +14

    It just goes to show you how easy it can be for mentally ill, abusive people to manipulate others. And you wouldn't even have to be mentally ill to fall for this: hang around crazy people long enough and you yourself will go crazy.
    I experienced a tad bit of this myself when an old friend of mine brought me into his group of college pals. They were all pretty much one level or another of functioning alcoholics and narcissists. My friend suffers from schizo-affective disorder and he fell in pretty hard with those people. I barely got out.

  • @kabumek
    @kabumek 5 лет назад +8

    lol i'm sure they've got difficulties trying to monetize their soulbonding Religion now that fictionkin is a relatively well-known internet phenomena and is 100% free lmao. wonder how they've made ends meet since then

  • @drsatanrx
    @drsatanrx 6 лет назад +23

    I bet those 6 dislikes are from jen and company

  • @flowchemicalptyltd
    @flowchemicalptyltd 6 лет назад +478

    The ladies that were involved with the Final Fantasy House have to be some of the most craziest (if not the most insane)
    Women I’ve ever seen in my life. and after seeing photos of a young Jennifer Cornet who looked pretty attractive prior to the catastrophic impact that her mind set had on her.
    I can't help but feel sorry for these people, but at the same time It's pretty funny as well.
    The Final Fantasy House is what happens when you have a group of Chris Chans living together.

    • @diobolikal5739
      @diobolikal5739 6 лет назад +66

      It’s still going on. She pretty much went to the Hannibal fandom and began indoctrinating even more followers. I believe Miss Misanthropist (I could be spelling it wrong) did a bunch of videos on what Jen was doing since 2013, I think, and the state that Jen has turned the Hannibal fandom into it. Interesting and creepy stuff.

    • @jtk6394
      @jtk6394 6 лет назад +50

      "I can't help but feel sorry for these people, but at the same time It's pretty funny as well."
      Sums up my feelings about half of the internet.

    • @Dark0niro
      @Dark0niro 6 лет назад +46

      " _A group of Chris Chans_ " is such a great analogy lol

    • @octogonSmuggler
      @octogonSmuggler 6 лет назад +2

      The WCT 3 You thought she was attractive? 🤨

    • @octogonSmuggler
      @octogonSmuggler 6 лет назад

      The WCT 3 Oh! Thank you!

  • @jaredwright6247
    @jaredwright6247 6 лет назад +40

    I think what I find most eerie about this is that the characters these two girls applied to everyone who visited their cursed house (including them) more or less fit their personalities. It's kind of weirdly serendipitous how everyone acts like whoever they're apparently soul-bonded to.

    • @Wafflyy
      @Wafflyy 4 года назад +4

      I'm late but that bothered me too

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 3 года назад +1

      almost like there's some truth behind this crazy shit haha

  • @jammanastic
    @jammanastic 6 лет назад +13

    I dont know how Cannon this is but there is a youtube Channel called Freddie Lounds documenting the sick things the extreme side of the Hannibal Fandom or “Fannibals” are and she claims to know Jen.

  • @HailNeatoBurrito
    @HailNeatoBurrito 2 года назад +7

    This reads like when the narrator tells you what happens to characters in Fallout: New Vegas

  • @richardpepin-woods9722
    @richardpepin-woods9722 6 лет назад +18

    Just a small correction: the Final Fantasy house was in a town called State College, but the school in this town is Penn State University, not Penn State College

  • @iKarambaRotMG
    @iKarambaRotMG 6 лет назад +42

    Hey, Fred. One suggestion for the "Down the Rabbit Hole" series would be a RUclipsr by the name of HERO. He went from making Terraria content on the games release, to firing his own developers for renowned mods, to having a dead man switch involved with Scarce, to having an unrecoverable fungal brain infection that leaves him dying. Check him out on his RUclips and Twitter page. Oh, and Reddit as well. There's an hour long rant on RUclips about him; crying and yelling included!

    • @iKarambaRotMG
      @iKarambaRotMG 6 лет назад +11

      Lost Sock I've checked on his channel from time to time for years. If you look up, "Terraria HERO Rant" there's a re-uploaded rant which spans for about an hour. You can check his Twitter, which to surprise, is quite active. I would *kill* for a video of my favorite show on one of my favorite and mysterious RUclipsrs.

    • @joshuamendoza7596
      @joshuamendoza7596 4 года назад

      Spencer I mean considering he is uploading again and the fact that the deadman’s switch ordeal was for a failed ARG I’m pretty sure the DTRH episode will be completely unnecessary but the firing of mod developers is news to me

    • @Wafflyy
      @Wafflyy 4 года назад

      The hell

    • @cjs4247
      @cjs4247 3 года назад

      Holy shit I had no idea about that! I used to watch HERO all the time for terraria stuff, then one day he just stopped posting. I had no idea what happened to him.

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 3 года назад +13

    Greta seemed to have realized her error and Jen’s madness in her list,
    But then she just tried to become another Jen

    • @gerragotheallidile
      @gerragotheallidile 2 года назад

      I hope that she realized that, and shaped up in recent years.

    • @ephemeralistic469
      @ephemeralistic469 9 месяцев назад

      There's a podcast that found Aeris and interviewed her. It's pretty insightful

    • @sporkles7427
      @sporkles7427 7 месяцев назад

      @@ephemeralistic469Do you have the link to that?

  • @dawulpertingerofstarland5257
    @dawulpertingerofstarland5257 6 лет назад +17

    This is very strange. The more I listened to it the more I'm convinced I sort of knew these people. However I noped my way away from them. I would say there's no way these are the same people but these two videos are making me very suspicious it is. Especially Angel. I would usually say fate can't be this weird. Yet here we are.

  • @Chaotikku
    @Chaotikku 6 лет назад +114

    Not that it really matters, but the character is spelled Zack, not Zach.

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi 6 лет назад +5

      Chaotikku I didn't wanna be that guy but simply for thinking it I was that guy.

    • @solarstrike33
      @solarstrike33 6 лет назад +12

      Unless the main dude's name was Zach.

    • @DrShak2009
      @DrShak2009 6 лет назад +5

      If your sentence starts with “not that it really matters” you don’t actually need to finish that sentence ;)

    • @theuniversedoesntcare
      @theuniversedoesntcare 6 лет назад +1

      lol, well you know. I am still really good at writing Cloud Strife, Square should hire me.

    • @kirar5522
      @kirar5522 6 лет назад +7

      The audacity of those people to mispell names, right Zach?

  • @SpellboundWolf
    @SpellboundWolf 11 месяцев назад +3

    I want all of these psychopaths to be locked up in a prison for the criminally insane & never released. Don't even let them outside for fresh air & sunshine. Let then rot in there. Where the hell were their families? What caused Jen and Renee to act this way? What the hell in general?!

  • @chadschmaltz9790
    @chadschmaltz9790 6 лет назад +12

    Just like I thought watching the original episode, it seemed like Cid was the only decent person aside from Zack associated with the FF house.

  • @ShogunRyuusha
    @ShogunRyuusha Год назад +5

    The voice sounds like the Mystery of the Druids guy in the wheelchair and that's awesome.

  • @CloaksCosplays
    @CloaksCosplays 3 года назад +5

    I took a peek into the Jennifer Cornet/tattlecrime online following and dear god, Fred could make an hour and a half video all about what she did AFTER FF House. She lied and cheated her way through Hannibal, then American Gods, and she was last seen trying to lure in younger gamers who arent old enough to know about the FFH just in time for the FF7 Remake... As a Christorian I have mad respect for the tattlecrime folk, namely because the difference between us and tc is that we do our sleuthing on Chris Chan to find more material to be entertained by, tattlecrime tries to find out about Jen's movements so she doesnt hurt another person. You guys are doing god's work.

  • @dreweckhart6894
    @dreweckhart6894 6 лет назад +52

    Are Jen and Renee a lesbian couple? Both of them are referred to with she/her pronouns, but they could not have been married in 2003 because Pennsylvania didn’t legalize gay marriage until 2014. Am I missing something?

    • @theMoporter
      @theMoporter 6 лет назад +40

      Drew Eckhart I mean, they could have just lied to Zack.

    • @dreweckhart6894
      @dreweckhart6894 6 лет назад +8

      theMoporter That’s a really good point.

    • @sugarveins
      @sugarveins 6 лет назад +60

      I think it's cause they misunderstood the game characters as "married" in the game therefore were "married" irl since they believed they were those characters. i doubt it was a legit marriage.

    • @KaraOfTheSea
      @KaraOfTheSea 6 лет назад +16

      Apparently, there were a few boroughs in PA who allowed same sex marriage. It was illegal, but never enforced until there was a crackdown in the mid 2000's. The people who were already married were grandfathered in, but no new marriages were approved until 2014. I only knew that because I have meet a married couple who were officiated in PA (saw a copy of the marriage license), but it was only certain townships.

    • @fireincarnation2
      @fireincarnation2 5 лет назад +12

      Renee and Jen were not married legally, they had a small ceremony before anyone moved in, but it wasnt legally binding.

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. 6 лет назад +319

    When I saw the notification... how do I say this....
    I got excited

    • @neves6867
      @neves6867 6 лет назад +5

      Justin Y. My man how you're doin?

    • @digester2446
      @digester2446 6 лет назад +13

      Justin Y. am I the only one who likes his comments regardless just to make people think he's using bots?

    • @wheatbread7604
      @wheatbread7604 6 лет назад +4

      Ayy you're even on here. I can't even imagine how many channels you're subscribed to just for this meme. You have to have almost contact notifications

    • @Infomaniac_Moment
      @Infomaniac_Moment 6 лет назад +6

      Stop like-botting.

    • @xramejin
      @xramejin 6 лет назад +37

      You know, there is eventually going to be a "down the rabbit hole" episode about you, Justin.

  • @Frdyan
    @Frdyan 6 лет назад +22

    Ahhhhhh! I need more than 10 minutes of Down The Rabbit Hole for my fix Owl-man!

    • @Flapjackbatter
      @Flapjackbatter 6 лет назад +4

      You could go and look at what Jen did later, in the Hanibal fandom. This is altso much more detailed.

  • @JodyBruchon
    @JodyBruchon 6 лет назад +7

    This is definitely easier to follow than the original video. Thanks for making it. I was somewhat confused because there was simply too much going on between all of these people. I mean, look at the avatars! SO MANY AVATARS.

  • @ARedMagicMarker
    @ARedMagicMarker 5 лет назад +10

    "However, they were united by their belief that their bodies were inhabited by the spirits of numerous characters from the game Final Fantasy VII."
    Well.........when you put it that way, it all just sounds pretty god-dang stupid. :v

  • @ashb712
    @ashb712 3 года назад +8

    forget Brazil, you're going straight to final fantasy house.

  • @Terestrasz
    @Terestrasz 5 лет назад +9

    1:04 I was one of those others, but I got away. When I was 13, I ran into Jen on AIM. She did exactly that - she assigned me "Yuffie". However, I was creeped out by her behaviour of asking me a lot of personal questions (including my phone number) and vanished.

    • @Wafflyy
      @Wafflyy 4 года назад

      What the hell dude

    • @ByteDeity
      @ByteDeity 4 года назад

      I knew they stooped so low as to try to lure in kids into their Spider Web, but actually hearing this shakes me to my core.
      I don't even want to think of the things she would have done to you had you complied.
      Good on you for staying away from these lunatics

    • @bigpigeon2384
      @bigpigeon2384 3 года назад

      Incredibly smart choice

    • @TheAxeLord47911
      @TheAxeLord47911 Месяц назад

      Good call.

  • @GreenH0cker
    @GreenH0cker 6 лет назад +7

    And no one has identified this “Angel” girl yet? (I mean by a pic)

  • @blacksabbath7243
    @blacksabbath7243 6 лет назад +45

    DukeLovesYou has a similair voice brendaniel

  • @romantisanon4647
    @romantisanon4647 6 лет назад +10

    YES thank you! More FF House! So interesting! The visuals really help refine and clarify a lot of the information. It would be amazing if you could one day do a more in-depth video on the “Fannibal” community or a video on a member of the Furry community named “Nekobe the Lion”.

  • @222CBK222
    @222CBK222 6 лет назад +13

    This is an understatement but...they need professional help.

    • @chadschmaltz9790
      @chadschmaltz9790 6 лет назад +6

      Cody King they would need a lot of professional help. I'm not making a joke when I say that. The level of delusion that these people are experiencing and the amount of brainwashing that has occurred would require years of therapy and medication. Unfortunately I don't think that will ever happen.

  • @revaryk6868
    @revaryk6868 6 лет назад +14

    Thanks a bunch!
    The original FFH episode did get a bit hard to follow at times, so this simplified version is appreciated.

  • @CherrygroveCity
    @CherrygroveCity 6 лет назад +131

    When I saw the notification, I got excited.

  • @Sorrelhas
    @Sorrelhas 6 лет назад +9

    This week in To Catch a Real-Life Lovecraftian Monstrocity

  • @lemmythetrash-goblin8291
    @lemmythetrash-goblin8291 6 лет назад +7

    Honestly sounds like a sidequest from some roleplaying game like Witcher or Deus Ex. Jesus

  • @grantwilson4506
    @grantwilson4506 5 лет назад +6

    Ohhh, see I never understood that Greta=Sarah. Thank you for clarifying some things. I like the other video for being more in-detail, but I liked this one for being more clear-cut. I guess the apprentice became the master.

  • @Glori4n
    @Glori4n 3 года назад +5

    Baffling.
    I've seen some weird stuff on the internet but this takes the cake... How twisted a human mind can get is unbelievable

  • @LadyTigerLily
    @LadyTigerLily 4 года назад +5

    This is giving me Tentmoot flashbacks. I'd love if someone would do a deep dive into that mess. There are articles on the internet, but few people I know remember that event and the wild swindling, fake identity nonsense, massive manipulation, and other things that also involved roping people into toxic living situations. Sean Astin even got involved. There was murder-suicide. There was a convention scandal. Utterly bonkers.

  • @Basteal
    @Basteal 6 лет назад +12

    My regular sword just grew to JRPG size!

  • @bertramofthegreenlake1213
    @bertramofthegreenlake1213 6 лет назад +4

    Does anyone know about Cid's fate? If he just successfully faded out of this whole madness I would be happy to hear it, but... it stated that he believed "in part" to this soul bounding stuff, is he still practicing it in hiding or did Cid move on with his life?

  • @Klipiklip1
    @Klipiklip1 6 лет назад +5

    7:45 .....these nutcases moved on to the hannibal fandom? I'm sure that will work out just fine

  • @Scolipendra
    @Scolipendra 6 лет назад +8

    Thanks for the video! It's much easier to follow the sequence of events. Also Duke your voice is delicious.

  • @AgsmaJustAgsma
    @AgsmaJustAgsma 6 лет назад +19

    Fuck yea, DukeLovesYou!

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ 6 лет назад +14

    I was looking up the symptoms for Schizophrenia the other day and a lot of people in the Final Fantasy House tick a lot of boxes:
    ☑ Poor self care and hygiene
    ☑ Delusions that you are something/someone else
    ☑ Paranoia and feelings that everyone is out to get you
    ☑ Disorganized speech: Other people don't know what you're on about. Most commonly obscure religious beliefs

    • @mars7639
      @mars7639 6 лет назад +2

      Nah, that's not schizophrenia, B. At least not for these people. They may tick a few boxes, but schizophrenia doesn't manifest like this. The actual condition has pretty specific criteria that involve involuntary delusions alongside (and that's important) delusional beliefs. Operative word here being "involuntary". They don't get to choose which character from the RPG they're going to play today in order to link up with tribes of other possible genuinely unstable people who will validate their bullshit (because they need something to feel like they aren't going crazy) and create harems of vulnerable people for sex, money, and power. Unlike these people, they don't set out to be manipulators who form grand schemes to grift people out of money, lodging, personal safety, etc. The people in this story seem to make calculated efforts. Jen is a for-sure cult leader type personality who probably has nothing diagnostically wrong with her other than a shit personality and at best a cocktail of some psychotic and/or antisocial traits. The others seem like they're enablers who got sucked into her vortex, lost their grip on reality, and started mirroring her behaviour. But that's the weird paradoxical thing about faking or buying into delusions and fantastical beliefs voluntarily. Even when you know they aren't legit. Do it long enough and with enough intensity, and you really can lose your mind. I think that's what happened here, not schizophrenia. I think there's something to be said though, for fandom, online life, etc. churning out this type of nutcase more and more, and I do really wonder if they've genuinely created some sort of new diagnostic species altogether...

    • @MillywiggZ
      @MillywiggZ 6 лет назад

      Mars ; Pretty interesting reading. But disturbing none the less, it means they were in control of mind and body for the most part which makes all that FF house stuff a lot worse.

  • @Crispman_777
    @Crispman_777 6 лет назад +11

    This made the the whole story a lot clearer.

  • @silvercruiser
    @silvercruiser 6 лет назад +10

    Oh bless, I rewatched the FFH episode earlier to catch up

  • @MrDoctorCrow
    @MrDoctorCrow 6 лет назад +29

    Passion gushee episode when

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi 6 лет назад +2

      MrDoctorCrow Would make a belter of an April Fool episode I'll tell you what.

  • @mrelephant2283
    @mrelephant2283 6 лет назад +2

    Thank fuck because I was really confused as what was happening in that episode

  • @nightmarefiles1
    @nightmarefiles1 6 лет назад +38

    Interesting

  • @ArmoredarmadilloX
    @ArmoredarmadilloX 5 лет назад +2

    I really want to say, WHO THE FUCK WOULD WANT TO BE THE HOST OF THE GHOST OF FUCKING HOJO!? EVEN IF THEY'RE IDK, INSANE, ITS WEIRD THAT ANYONE WOULD WANT HIM OF ALL OF THEM!

  • @lunahellsing3081
    @lunahellsing3081 6 лет назад +6

    It honestly shocks me that NO ONE can find where they are, or at least photos of them now-a-days.
    I understand that they went into hiding after some word got out about them in the Hannibal fandom, however, I've seen cases before (mostly on 4Chan) where people have worked with MUCH LESS information about someone and STILL found everything they wanted to know.
    I am extremely curious to know what they both look like to this day.

    • @futonrevolution7671
      @futonrevolution7671 6 лет назад +4

      I'm going through the Freddie Lounds channel now and she's got plenty of pictures next to the screennames to help viewers keep things straight. The pictures look pretty recent.

    • @lunahellsing3081
      @lunahellsing3081 6 лет назад +1

      I've only seen two of Jen. The older one from like 2000, and then the recent one that Tattle-Crime put on her website.
      I just wish there were more.

    • @futonrevolution7671
      @futonrevolution7671 6 лет назад

      Yeah, me too, but staying as mysterious and unidentifiable as possible is a rather typical cult leader-ish thing to do. Only the chosen few can meet the master, etc. Tattle-Crime would probably use the least flattering pictures possible, but Jen and Angel aged about as well and as quickly as I'd expected for their lifestyle.

    • @neoasura
      @neoasura 5 лет назад

      I'm curious to how they looked back then, where can you find pictures of them?

    • @Arancil
      @Arancil 5 лет назад

      @@futonrevolution7671 Someone so narcissistic and controlling probably wouldn't want to be around regular people either, they would have no power over them. I'm guessing power is everything to her.