"It's over. Time for you to put aside the gun" If only Big Boss had someone to tell him that after snake eater but some wounds take time to heal, even a lifetime.
@@revolverocelot1380 After what happened with Snake Eater he felt betrayed by his country to the point that war was all he had left. Then the Boss AI broke his heart again. Originally he made Soldiers Without Borders to attract people who had felt similarly abandoned by their countries. After Peace Walker it became a coping mechanism to hide how dead he had become on the inside.
@@kyrozudesoya1829 And then it's destruction, after losing MSF and everyone on it except Kaz, the Medic and a few other soldiers he didn't know survived, and it just got worse
This scene hits harder when you learn that Kojima lost his dad when he was young. He was raised mostly by his mom, who encouraged him to get into game development despite that being frowned upon in Japan in the era he was growing up in. Kojima's mom kept up with her son's games and played her son's games as often as she could. Death Stranding was made as a thank-you to her for everything she'd done for him, but she passed away during the game's development and Kojima had kept the game a secret from her until she'd played it until she'd unexpectedly passed away.
The whole world saw and experienced his creation, but the one that mattered most did not. Nothing but pain and sadness, but in the end, thankful for what became reality with such support.
I could be wrong but I thought I remember reading did Kojimas father die from when America nuked Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor? That’s why the Metal Gear games has so many anti war stuff? I get that it’s sad but it’s his own country’s fault for his fathers death for bombing Pearl Harbor if this story is true?
Big Boss dies at age 79. He spent 9 years in a coma for MGSV. He spent 15 years trapped in a coma by the Patriots after MG2. The guy spent 24 years of his life in a coma. Ignoring the life he lived, that is still seriously messed up.
For the coma, if I remember I think he was only in a coma for 2 years, it was venom snake that was 9 years, I just remember that Big Boss wasn’t in the coma for that long
So he really only lived for 55 years. Which means he has spent 32% of his life in a coma. Damn. Thats 1/3rd OF HIS ENTIRE LIFE And dies by making peace with his second-nemesis. And dies sharing a cig with him. “This is good- isn’t it?” Big Boss may have done some terrible things, but he’s still the most tragic character in the series imo.
@@Patatras_5325big boss stayed in a 9 year natural coma, we don't know how much time venom was in a natural coma and how long was he kept in a coma to turn him into BB. When big boss woke up, venom wasn't turned fully into bb so he wasn't awakened yet, and they used that time to brief bb about the body double ruse, then they woke venom up the night cipher attaked the hospital
I imagine Snake and Otacon just chilling with Sunny in a nice house, ordering pizza and watching movies. Snake sneaking out for cigs even tho he said he quit. They deserve it🥺
I don't think he'll withdraw. But the rest is probably true. Sunny is still a tech geek but the confidence she exudes in MGRR shows she lived a happier and healthier life with her two dads.
the point is that even with limited time you shouldn't waste what you have left. in fact it's all the more reason for you to spend those remaining days living your best life
@@snowix4640He died. It's inevitable. Either he lives to become a walking bio weapon, even with the new strain or die with dignity as a man and a hero. Plus he gets reincarnated to fight in Smash Bros(but also in fortnite) so there's that.
Originally it was called “Metal Gear Solid: Rising”. It was intended to be a prequel between 2 and 4 and would show Raiden during his early days as a cyborg. That is until things changed and Platinum took over.
Imagine how fucking weird this scene must have looked in universe to anyone else in the graveyard. First an old man tries to shoot himself, then 2 other old men are there 1 with a rifle and the other in a wheelchair, the first and second old man aim their guns at each other then get into a fist fight and hug, then the 2nd old man monologs for 15 minutes and strangles the 3rd old man in the wheel chair and then collapses, he gets carried over to the grave the first old man almost shot himself in front of and salutes it and then dies like 10 minutes later after smoking a cigar
lol true but you can’t play this game blindly, this game was made for you to want to learn the story and think, even if the games don’t clearly explain everything.
If something like that happend irl and i happened to witness it in a graveyard from afar i would just think well shit, theres your normal everyday special forces vietnam vets with a complicated backstory ill never understand
5:30 People say MGSV contradicts this, and while it may a little, Venom Snake throughout the game receives visual and auditory indicators that what he sees and remembers is not entirely true, and throughout GZ and TPP, lens effects are used in important scenes that have no earthly business being there, to give the effect that Venom is being given artificial memories and thoughts. And by the end of the game, Venom's brainwashing wears off on its own, nobody tells him the truth, and while he may not remember the particulars of his previous life, he knows damn well that he his not John. So they've never been able to turn someone completely into another 100% successfully or on a genetic level.
Literally devoted EVERYTHING to bring back the man he loved, and never even got to see him again. Seriously the plot of MGS from the end of 3 onwards can be summarised as "Ocelot did this for Big Boss..."
I remember tactical espionage coming out in 98. I didn’t play it until 99 though. But I remember being a kid, and drawing this crazy life lesson from one of Naomi’s last calls with Snake, and then calling my mom while she was at work to talk about this higher level of philosophy I had been witness to. What a ride it’s been. “Militaires Sans Frontieres”
This ending is the much needed resolution to both the outcomes of Snake Eater and Metal Gear 2. Snake got closure to the hardships that he faced and Big Boss was finally at peace.
Man... you can just see with Snake's body language during the tail end of this scene right before the final smoke with Big Boss, he's just thinking, "Man.. why did I have to fight him? Why did I have to kill him two times before all of this?" And without saying it, he was just like, "I'll let you have this last puff."
"Under certain conditions, someone can be made to play a specific role. Act like someone else." You of all people would know something about this, wouldn't you?
Regardless of Peace Walker or MGSV, this was the final curtain call of an iconic game series, and this ending proved it. "This is good, isn't it?" - RIP Big Boss
As soon as I finished watching this scene, I literally proclaimed out loud that this was the best series of games I have ever played. Still true 12 years later for me. I STILL pick up new things each time I watch it. So interesting, the allusions to the Military-Industrial Complex in particular.
The part that Big Boss didn’t understand was that true peace is achieved when soldiers drop their weapons, particularly of their own accord, expressing true freedom to disobey orders and fall out of ranks, that the world be no more rocked by perverse old men’s wars. This is frightening for man to do, to become defenseless, to risk and even accept death as consequence of voluntary vulnerability. She was a master of disarmament and CQC, because her true joy in war was to see man learn that he and she could be disarmed and not be in fear of dying, accepting that dying could result but hoping that it would not always. The Boss made that choice in the end when she decided her missions were over, not because others willed it so. She could have gone truly rouge like Big Boss would, but she decided that death and all his friends would no longer be her slave master and conquered it. Remember that the freedom call, “Give me liberty or give me death,” is a demand for the oppressor and not the oppressed.
@@bruxinth4660 the "give me freedom" part remainded me of Wolfenstein where Wyatt says it . The Boss truly wanted the world to be at peace and no more wars No wonder she accepted the assignment of being killed by her beloved pupil Otherwise she would have been to Big Boss's shoes All warmonger and such
A flawed masterpiece I feel it every time I play this game and watch this scene I was there before mgs1 came out I played it as a kid and have grown up with it and to be here at the end feels so unreal and brings me to tears
@@cFull_Rtrd it was mainly fan service kojima had to basically scramble what he could,it's not to degrade the game,if you took it that way the go cry to mommy im an actual mgs fan all the way from the ORIGINAL TWO metal gears,not a brag but me saying im a fan who saw the flaws but loved this game beyond anything its my favorite
@@lucasdiazjr5679 I have a new question now, what is wrong with you? Why are you getting upset and attacking me? I never played this game and was wondering. You need therapy.
@@speedking7224 I don't want to break the spirit but...Solidus has an eyepatch for the left eye it couldn't actually work, and...he got it before him, same with the grey hair...(Nah but I like the metaphore)
As someone who started on MGS3:Snake Eater on the HD Collection back in 2011 21:32 made me cry like no other game has done. Metal Gear is the only franchise I would say that is more effective playing it in chronological order instead of release order. It makes MGS4 ending way more definitive and emotional. Let's hope this series get the attention that will always deserve with the release of the Master Collection and the Snake Eater Remake (I hope MGS4 finally leaves PS3 with Master Collection Vol. 2)
@GabrielCyp you can play on release order: MGS1> MGS2> MGS3>MGS4>MGSPW> MGSV Or you can go in chronological order: MGS3> MGSPW> MGSV> MGS1> MGS2> MGS4 There's also the OG MG games on MSX, but those aren't required to play to understand the series. You can look up the story since it connects to MGSV and MGS1
@@CyprousI personally recommend you to play Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, if you want to see more of Solid Snake and Big Boss as characters, as well as another character very important in Metal Gear Solid 1
I have peace walker big boss on my calf. And people either thinks it’s a pirate or che gurera. Pretty awkward when my company sgt major accused me of being a commie lol. I have the foxhound logo on my shoulder and it’s great cause it doubles as the callsign for infantry in the Aus defence force.
After seeing Zero's side of things in the Phantom Pain, this cutscene is wild now. The AI truly was just created to continue his work thanks to Skull Face's meddling, but it got out of control and his infection worsened. While The Boss had died when her will was passed along, Zero got to witness every part of it, and saw just how much it all fell apart.
Because not a single member of Snake Eater team truly understand The Boss. In a nutshell, all of them thought she wish to change the world for the better. A world without a cold war, without war and only peace for the countries and the world. But the truth she didn't want to fight for a change. She just want to fight to keep things as it were. No system control, no super-government entity like Washington, Moscow or an AI of later era puppeting the world as they please.
@@mr.monkey354que? Absolutamente no, quería un mundo donde los soldados fueran valorados, un lugar donde pudieran vivir como personas y no como simples herramientas (como the boss)
@@JonathanPY Es por eso que la gente no debería ignorar los juegos de msx. Big Boss literalmente mató a los padres de los niños, luego fingió rescatarlos solo para prepararlos para su propio ejército y crear un ciclo de guerra interminable. él no era un héroe,
@@mr.monkey354 Viste esos actos o te dijeron eso? Ahí lo dejo, te recuerdo que los patriots eran capaces de moldear el contexto de las acciones de todas las personas
@@curiositytax9360 Sure feels like it. I stopped being about making good new movies and became about. "How can i take someone elses movie and "do it better"
What I appreciate about this scene is that they decided to not have Big Boss take apart that 1911 apart like some movies do. 1911s aren’t easy guns to take apart, especially with the barrel bushing possibly flying out from the pressure of the buffer spring.
@@loganross705the pistol in the virtuous mission on MGS3 says its a 1911, but in reality, it's a Browning Hi Power. So you could take apart a Hi Power like The Boss does.
@@gjmarkjesse1324 there is no 1911 in the virtuous mission. The boss dismantles both your mk22 and the basic 1911 (not the customised one) you have at the start of operation snake eater.
I love how Zero is the main antagonist of the series, he's the cause of like 80% of all what happened. The Patriots, Les Enfant Terribles, FOXDIE, Shadow Moses, Big Shell, the MPCs, even the events of Metal Gear Rising, all of that and more were Zero's doing or a consequence of his doings. He was the most powerful man in the whole planet. And yet, when we finally meet him, he's a senile old man that doesn't even know where he is and needs a machine to breathe and pee. Is like the Ozymandias poem.
MGSV reveal that he wasnt the antagonist. Wath the true tapes. There lies the answer to Big boss's question. Fear? Hatred? The answer, non, Zero always saw him as a friend.
I love in the MGSV tapes you get after beating the game, he says refering to Les enfentte terrible: "They're no sons of mine..." But later accepts david, calling him his son ❤
Imagine being Richard Doyle and reading these lines. I’ve been playing MGS games for over 10 years and read the wikis multiple times. I still barely understand what’s going on half the time
Neither Konami, even Kojima understand what they created anymore. Trying to tie up loose ends just created more of them. That's what happened. Even though I like metal gear saga, it's quite confusing sometimes.
@@pedrorezende6444 It's also kind of stupid what the Patriots turned out to be. Zero wasn't even painted out to be an important character who would shape the events of the entire series in MGS3. They didn't even lay the groundwork correctly.
@@LordVader89How did a man from my country, end up creating AIs that would eventually controlling the flow of information? Manipulate how people think and act? Also he had an unnamed sister so I do wonder what happened to her. I doubt Zero had any family either.
@@LordVader89I mean realistically the most powerful leaders in humanity aren't always painted as important people from the beginning, the point of the Patriots was to remain hidden in the shadows, so obviously any sort of revelation about who they were was gonna feel weird anyway
greatest ending in gaming history! i said it yes! in so many ways! ya think its over, snake kills himself then the credits rolls.... until ya see big boss name ( voice actor)! but how , he was in a coma the whole time he didnt speak a word? then this scene, .......how amazing! the two japanese voice actors r actuall son and father, the legend goes that their relationship wasnt that good, and they havent seen each other in so long until this scene they made together! this game is a masterpiece, if only ppl gave it more love !
If only konami gave it more love and remaster it on all consoles. It's a shame it's stuck on a ps3, not everyone owns a ps3 and not everyone can emulate a ps3. Hopefully MGS master collection Vol 2 includes it. Also I would say another great video game ending on par with this is Assassin's Creed revelations where Ezio meets Altair in the library and also speaks with Desmond. That was one of the best ending too. But mgs4 ending is just perfect with how it ties everything and ends the story of big boss and solid Snake.
Solid Snake’s birth was what drove Big Boss away from Zero, yet his actions are what brought them together Further proof that he is more than just a product of his genes
Big Boss is a real man. Spent his life living through mistake after mistake yet still trying to teach people (mainly his 'son/brother/soldier/clone') to be better people than he was and learn from his mistakes. We can only try to help other generations not to feel the same pain and suffering by showing them our own failures but sometimes lived experience is the best teacher.
The saddest moment in the MGS timeline. And one of the most legendary. Remember, y'all, this was a LAUNCH TITLE for the Playstation 3. This MASTERPIECE of storytelling and technical achievement. Remember that the next time some AAA hack company tries to make excuses for their poorly polished, $70 turd.
The way that big boss has to use cqc to give solid snake a hug is kinda heartbreaking, reminds me of those soldiers who thought ww2 was still going on years later
One interesting thing about the final cut of this game with the japanese dub is that big boss was voiced by Snake's father and as Snake's VA wasn't on speaking terms with his father it actually lead to them reuniting. This was great as it allowed Snake's VA to be there before his father died months later.
The series chronologically begins with Big Boss smoking a cigar and ends with him smoking a cigar. Yes I know MGR exists but I"m talking about the mainline games.
I love the small detail when Big Boss ejects the magazine from Snake's 1911 then proceeds to also empty the chamber. I still get so many chills/tears from this cutscene. "This is good........Isn't it?" makes me cry every single time
It wasn’t a made up story. I’m convinced this is a documentary. The game being a medium through which Kojima is communicating the system we currently operate under
5:48 ''Under certain conditions, someone can be made to play a specific role. Act like someone else'' I'm sure Big Boss has plenty of experience with this, considering what he did to Venon Snake. Ps: If Kojima was still with Konami, I really believe he would have made a patch to the then 7 year old game where you could press X to play flashbacks of Venon when he says this quote
I wish I could play this game and see this ending for the 1st time, I got the game on 2008 but I didn't play it until 2010 because I didn't feel ready. Those feelings and memories will stick with me forever.
I think something that people often misunderstand about the death of Zero in this scene here is that Big Boss isn't choking an enemy, he's holding an old friend in his final moments
I like how Big Boss calls Zero out on creating the war economy and doesn't mention how himself and Miller and "Liquid Ocelot" were responsible for creating the age of PMCs...
Just finished this after finally seeing the other games and man it was a trip. RIP to Big Boss. The Legend Ocelot and Liquid as well. Series wouldn’t be the same without such iconic villains. Also I felt more sadness when Zero died than I cares at all for Naomi in any capacity in this game.
Big Boss tried to make a difference for all soldiers to take down the system. But he couldn’t keep it up because time was the challenge because in that time multiple obstacles were present and different successors could only do so much to keep the original dream alive. The perfect example is with Big Boss trying to fulfill the dream of The Boss but over time his view changed over time and it wasn’t till his final moments he realized what The Boss ideals were the reason to fight
The Boss was a soldier, an agent, and an astronaut. She wanted to share the meaning she found in space, but it was one only an astronaut could appreciate. So, her followers - a soldier and an agent - attempted to interpret that meaning. These misinterpretations plunged the world into endless conflict...
A beautiful thing a lot of people do not know is that the Japanese voice actors for Solid Snake and Big Boss, Chikao Ôtsuka & Akio Ôtsuka, are father and son in real life. There’s something that I’ve been hearing ever since this game came out that apparently this father and son duo were going through some rough shit, estranged or just not on talking terms, and they reconciled due to the voice acting of this game since they had to meet and obviously look at the scene, I mean come on! Fucking beautiful.
Also, Akio is the voice actor of Shunsui in BLEACH. Anyone search his image up - it’s a guy with long brown hair in a low tiny pony, a scuffle beard and is eventually given an eyepatch and scar. I remember so much art came out of Shunsui being BB during that time when he got his eye patch.
That trip to shadow moses hit me like a ton of bricks. I was playing it next to my best friend who I've known since 5th grade who used to call me for help with mgs1. It was a wild moment to go back to.
Probably the one of the most impactful scenes in all of Metal Gear. The A.I. revelation in 2, this, and Senator Armstrong' rant (being completely serious, even if it's non-canon.) Also, the very last line of the game: "The sun (a new "son") is rising again."😏
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"It's over. Time for you to put aside the gun" If only Big Boss had someone to tell him that after snake eater but some wounds take time to heal, even a lifetime.
true.
The Boss borderline told him this in Peace Walker and he felt betrayed.
@@alexdeghost2729This. Big Boss just kept jumping back into war. Snake was just forced back into it.
@@revolverocelot1380 After what happened with Snake Eater he felt betrayed by his country to the point that war was all he had left. Then the Boss AI broke his heart again. Originally he made Soldiers Without Borders to attract people who had felt similarly abandoned by their countries. After Peace Walker it became a coping mechanism to hide how dead he had become on the inside.
@@kyrozudesoya1829 And then it's destruction, after losing MSF and everyone on it except Kaz, the Medic and a few other soldiers he didn't know survived, and it just got worse
everybody's talking about how emotional and gripping this scene is...but no one's talking about how fucking slick Big Boss' overcoat is...
Facts, that coat is fire.
The first thing I noticed when I saw him!
Yeah man I want his coat lol
@@unknowncrazy15You ain’t alone man.
Probably Balenciaga
big boss calling solid his son is one of the most emotional moments in the series
Solid- "Now father, about that child support."
Big Boss- *Dies*
Mgs3 was way better but that is my opinion
@@revolverocelot1380hahahahhahahahaha
@@cristiany140but this is the most emotional moment in the entire series…
@@revolverocelot1380"It's good... Isnt it?"
This scene hits harder when you learn that Kojima lost his dad when he was young. He was raised mostly by his mom, who encouraged him to get into game development despite that being frowned upon in Japan in the era he was growing up in. Kojima's mom kept up with her son's games and played her son's games as often as she could. Death Stranding was made as a thank-you to her for everything she'd done for him, but she passed away during the game's development and Kojima had kept the game a secret from her until she'd played it until she'd unexpectedly passed away.
Damn that is actually really sad 😢
That comment just reframed DS' entire narrative for me
Fuck man
The whole world saw and experienced his creation, but the one that mattered most did not. Nothing but pain and sadness, but in the end, thankful for what became reality with such support.
I bought it but I've been sitting on it. Now I gotta play it
I could be wrong but I thought I remember reading did Kojimas father die from when America nuked Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor? That’s why the Metal Gear games has so many anti war stuff? I get that it’s sad but it’s his own country’s fault for his fathers death for bombing Pearl Harbor if this story is true?
Big Boss used his CQC (mostly to take down his enemies) to hug his son. I love how he made a father and son's hug so tactical
First tactical hug in history?
Metal Gear Solid 4, tactical hugging action
@@toastergaming7783😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@toastergaming7783 meanwhile mgs 3 tactical and fully neccesary crotchgrab
CQH
Close Quarters Hug 😢😢😢😢
Big Boss dies at age 79.
He spent 9 years in a coma for MGSV. He spent 15 years trapped in a coma by the Patriots after MG2.
The guy spent 24 years of his life in a coma. Ignoring the life he lived, that is still seriously messed up.
For the coma, if I remember I think he was only in a coma for 2 years, it was venom snake that was 9 years, I just remember that Big Boss wasn’t in the coma for that long
@@gamerlordthebestBig Boss awakened around the same time as Venom. Venom was drugged into staying comatose for as a long as Big Boss did.
@@danny1884pretty sure it was the opposite big boss was in a medically induced coma waiting for venom to finally wake up
So he really only lived for 55 years. Which means he has spent 32% of his life in a coma. Damn. Thats 1/3rd OF HIS ENTIRE LIFE
And dies by making peace with his second-nemesis. And dies sharing a cig with him. “This is good- isn’t it?”
Big Boss may have done some terrible things, but he’s still the most tragic character in the series imo.
@@Patatras_5325big boss stayed in a 9 year natural coma, we don't know how much time venom was in a natural coma and how long was he kept in a coma to turn him into BB. When big boss woke up, venom wasn't turned fully into bb so he wasn't awakened yet, and they used that time to brief bb about the body double ruse, then they woke venom up the night cipher attaked the hospital
I imagine Snake and Otacon just chilling with Sunny in a nice house, ordering pizza and watching movies. Snake sneaking out for cigs even tho he said he quit. They deserve it🥺
Don't make me cry
B-Bro... 😭
Supposedly the original ending featured snake walking away and fucking shooting himself which is hilarious lmao
I don't think he'll withdraw. But the rest is probably true. Sunny is still a tech geek but the confidence she exudes in MGRR shows she lived a happier and healthier life with her two dads.
@STOPPEDINCOLORADO the end of the first trailer that aired at E3 back in the day showed him putting a .45 in his mouth. Snakes final mission
Snake: **is dying**
Big boss: now is time for you to live
the point is that even with limited time you shouldn't waste what you have left. in fact it's all the more reason for you to spend those remaining days living your best life
Kojima said solid still alive, his will keep him alive
It was the same in mgs1 Naomi basically pissing in snakes face when he wants to know how long til foxdie kills him
Everybody’s dying bud, some just quicker than others
@@snowix4640He died. It's inevitable. Either he lives to become a walking bio weapon, even with the new strain or die with dignity as a man and a hero. Plus he gets reincarnated to fight in Smash Bros(but also in fortnite) so there's that.
That last part tho...
"It's rising again"
You knew, didn't you Kojima?
I was today years old when I realized why metal gear rising revangance has "rising" in the title
The winds of destruction wanting to restart a old economy from years ago
Originally it was called “Metal Gear Solid: Rising”. It was intended to be a prequel between 2 and 4 and would show Raiden during his early days as a cyborg. That is until things changed and Platinum took over.
@@Twocoolman115platinum ruined it.
@@Twocoolman115 avatar sounding ass
otacon really is snakes best friend.
Probably the only one
"It's like one of my Japanese animes."
"Omg there's like a million gallons of piss EVERYWHERE!"
You know what, they both reminds me of McQueen and Mate , not blood related, but they can be siblings.
Tho it’s messed up he felled in love with 2 women who tried to kill his friend, Naomi and Sniper Wolf.
@@cristiany140 he has lots of friends. Roy, Raiden just to name 2
Maybe Big Boss would've lived if he gave himself a couple breathers during this intense 30 minute speech.
Anyways, he knew he is going to die and he deserves it.
@@thisacnt.wasmadeforstudyin9198don't you fucking dare say that
Idk but this made me piss myself laughing
@@thisacnt.wasmadeforstudyin9198 why does he deserve to die?
XD jjajj Big BOSS muere a causa del foxdie de solid snake
"Snake, it's about time for you to get some bitches."
While me: *Bitchless*
Bruh
my homie Snake was asexual bro respect
Snake: Jokes on you old man, I'm married to an otaku
Big boss: ha-ha-ha-*dies*
@@lpcsm1973 Snake definitely clapped Meryl's cheeks, why do you think she got so upset about getting ghosted after MGS1?
27:02 Big Boss’s last words. Don’t wast the life you left fighting. World would be better off without snakes
Vulcan raven: SNAKES DON'T BELONG IN ALASKA
"Under certain conditions, someone can be made to play a specific role... Act like someone else."
Holy crap... Venom.
Quite an eery coincidence
its really referring to mgs2
Imagine how fucking weird this scene must have looked in universe to anyone else in the graveyard. First an old man tries to shoot himself, then 2 other old men are there 1 with a rifle and the other in a wheelchair, the first and second old man aim their guns at each other then get into a fist fight and hug, then the 2nd old man monologs for 15 minutes and strangles the 3rd old man in the wheel chair and then collapses, he gets carried over to the grave the first old man almost shot himself in front of and salutes it and then dies like 10 minutes later after smoking a cigar
CSI probably be like "Definitely fentanyl"
lol true but you can’t play this game blindly, this game was made for you to want to learn the story and think, even if the games don’t clearly explain everything.
If something like that happend irl and i happened to witness it in a graveyard from afar i would just think
well shit, theres your normal everyday special forces vietnam vets with a complicated backstory ill never understand
Imagine going to the graveyard to visit your loved ones’ grave only to see the friggin body of Big Boss just sitting there.
Real men cry here.
Especially when Big Boss salutes The Boss grave
Amen 🙏
every. time. this is for fathers. sons. veterans. heroes. scapegoats. i think this was what was meant with “the best is yet to come”.
even as a woman, real men cry at the most useful times, the saddest of all their lives, including, this. This is so emotional
I always salute with him, no matter what.
“You would have made same mistakes” was that moment for me :,(
It's amazing how Big Boss has so much to say shortly after being free from his post Metal Gear 2 "coma"
He practiced that speech in his head for YEARS.
He likely caught up on how the world turned out after he woke up. I don't think this scene is like the day after he woke up.
So where TF was he the entire game?@@DanSmeed
@@christopher8659 He had no reason to appear earlier I guess.
getting mobile again. after being in a coma, you literally a fucked an can't walk. it takes time
5:30
People say MGSV contradicts this, and while it may a little, Venom Snake throughout the game receives visual and auditory indicators that what he sees and remembers is not entirely true, and throughout GZ and TPP, lens effects are used in important scenes that have no earthly business being there, to give the effect that Venom is being given artificial memories and thoughts. And by the end of the game, Venom's brainwashing wears off on its own, nobody tells him the truth, and while he may not remember the particulars of his previous life, he knows damn well that he his not John. So they've never been able to turn someone completely into another 100% successfully or on a genetic level.
If you think about it Ocelot made a pretty huge fucking sacrifice....
Like mother, like son
@@el_famoso_albatar seems like sacrifice runs in the family. If we also include his father the sorrow.
Literally devoted EVERYTHING to bring back the man he loved, and never even got to see him again.
Seriously the plot of MGS from the end of 3 onwards can be summarised as "Ocelot did this for Big Boss..."
The sad thing is that he never even got to reunite with Big Boss
ironically snake and big boss both where fighting the exact same enemy and the patriots manipulated solid snake in to taking out big boss
I remember tactical espionage coming out in 98. I didn’t play it until 99 though. But I remember being a kid, and drawing this crazy life lesson from one of Naomi’s last calls with Snake, and then calling my mom while she was at work to talk about this higher level of philosophy I had been witness to. What a ride it’s been.
“Militaires Sans Frontieres”
You commented on wrong game, I guess? But still it's fine all of them are a family.
Vic Boss
@@thisacnt.wasmadeforstudyin9198 Probably an AI post.
He's talking about metal gear solid 1. "Tactical espionage action" is in the name of the game@@thisacnt.wasmadeforstudyin9198
This ending is the much needed resolution to both the outcomes of Snake Eater and Metal Gear 2. Snake got closure to the hardships that he faced and Big Boss was finally at peace.
Man... you can just see with Snake's body language during the tail end of this scene right before the final smoke with Big Boss, he's just thinking, "Man.. why did I have to fight him? Why did I have to kill him two times before all of this?" And without saying it, he was just like, "I'll let you have this last puff."
Partially because the Patriots....and partially because Venom Snake went ape shit.
"Under certain conditions, someone can be made to play a specific role. Act like someone else." You of all people would know something about this, wouldn't you?
Regardless of Peace Walker or MGSV, this was the final curtain call of an iconic game series, and this ending proved it.
"This is good, isn't it?" - RIP Big Boss
For me those are just epilogue’s rather than actual chapters.
Peacewalker set in 1974, Ground Zeroes in 1975 and The Phantom Pain in 1984
PW and TPP is never the ending of the series is the prologue
There will never be a game such as Metal Gear, truly a masterpiece.
true
As flawed as MGS4 might’ve been, as much as I didn’t enjoy a lot of parts of it, this ending made me cry like no other game ever did.
There isn't much flaws in the game anyway
Pretty much a masterpiece for me back in the day
As soon as I finished watching this scene, I literally proclaimed out loud that this was the best series of games I have ever played. Still true 12 years later for me.
I STILL pick up new things each time I watch it. So interesting, the allusions to the Military-Industrial Complex in particular.
Great movie. Meh game.
MGS4's and RDR2's endings are the most emotional moments in gaming ever.
Mgs5 shining lights even in death broke me first but i played out of order
To be honest
The Boss's will, was the world to be no longer at wars, no more conflict, no hatred
True Peace 🕊️
Ironically, Solid Snake and Otacon worked to fulfill The Boss's will without even realizing it.
@@geico15minutes talking about achievement
The part that Big Boss didn’t understand was that true peace is achieved when soldiers drop their weapons, particularly of their own accord, expressing true freedom to disobey orders and fall out of ranks, that the world be no more rocked by perverse old men’s wars. This is frightening for man to do, to become defenseless, to risk and even accept death as consequence of voluntary vulnerability. She was a master of disarmament and CQC, because her true joy in war was to see man learn that he and she could be disarmed and not be in fear of dying, accepting that dying could result but hoping that it would not always.
The Boss made that choice in the end when she decided her missions were over, not because others willed it so. She could have gone truly rouge like Big Boss would, but she decided that death and all his friends would no longer be her slave master and conquered it. Remember that the freedom call, “Give me liberty or give me death,” is a demand for the oppressor and not the oppressed.
@@bruxinth4660 the "give me freedom" part remainded me of Wolfenstein where Wyatt says it
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The Boss truly wanted the world to be at peace and no more wars
No wonder she accepted the assignment of being killed by her beloved pupil
Otherwise she would have been to Big Boss's shoes
All warmonger and such
Big Boss: True peace at last...
Senator Armstrong: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
A flawed masterpiece I feel it every time I play this game and watch this scene I was there before mgs1 came out I played it as a kid and have grown up with it and to be here at the end feels so unreal and brings me to tears
how was it flawed?
@@cFull_Rtrd it was mainly fan service kojima had to basically scramble what he could,it's not to degrade the game,if you took it that way the go cry to mommy im an actual mgs fan all the way from the ORIGINAL TWO metal gears,not a brag but me saying im a fan who saw the flaws but loved this game beyond anything its my favorite
@@lucasdiazjr5679 I have a new question now, what is wrong with you? Why are you getting upset and attacking me? I never played this game and was wondering. You need therapy.
@@lucasdiazjr5679 no
@@cFull_Rtrd one if you took that as an attack,you're too soft to be here.
I just realized something. That coat Big Boss is wearing is the same coat Liquid wore in MGS1.
Good eye! It also looks like he is wearing the same outfit under the coat as he wore at the end of MGS3. 🤔
Ocelot also wore the same coat in the first game.
Liquids's coat, solidus's eyepatch and solid's white hair.
@@speedking7224 I don't want to break the spirit but...Solidus has an eyepatch for the left eye it couldn't actually work, and...he got it before him, same with the grey hair...(Nah but I like the metaphore)
Also Snake uses one when he's searching for Eva
Every CQC cutscene, Solid Snake gets disrespected by another Snake.
And Cat😊
@@darkzoroark9558 ...?
@@Kiddo_XOcelot
Solid was the only “Snake” that didn’t go out of his way to use cqc
You mean THE Snake.
Interrupting big boss’ last words to sell me fucking smart water and a Toyota is fucked up youtube….
FOR FUCKING REAL GOT 3 ADS OUT OF THIS VIDEO LIKE STFU IM TRYING TO SEE THIS
Damn Patriots!
we should all get together and create a whole no-nation military together somewhere out on the water for this
@@ArgentoGamingyeah, let's call it....Inner Hell...or something like that
As someone who started on MGS3:Snake Eater on the HD Collection back in 2011 21:32 made me cry like no other game has done. Metal Gear is the only franchise I would say that is more effective playing it in chronological order instead of release order. It makes MGS4 ending way more definitive and emotional.
Let's hope this series get the attention that will always deserve with the release of the Master Collection and the Snake Eater Remake
(I hope MGS4 finally leaves PS3 with Master Collection Vol. 2)
Imagine people who started on 1998 with MGS or MG back on the 80s
what is the correct order to play? (sorry bad english :( )
@GabrielCyp you can play on release order: MGS1> MGS2> MGS3>MGS4>MGSPW> MGSV
Or you can go in chronological order:
MGS3> MGSPW> MGSV> MGS1> MGS2> MGS4
There's also the OG MG games on MSX, but those aren't required to play to understand the series. You can look up the story since it connects to MGSV and MGS1
@@thegreyvenom thanks.
@@CyprousI personally recommend you to play Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, if you want to see more of Solid Snake and Big Boss as characters, as well as another character very important in Metal Gear Solid 1
One of the best games ever made. I have big boss tattood on my shoulder.
Snake eater 😍
That’s awesome.👍
I have peace walker big boss on my calf. And people either thinks it’s a pirate or che gurera. Pretty awkward when my company sgt major accused me of being a commie lol. I have the foxhound logo on my shoulder and it’s great cause it doubles as the callsign for infantry in the Aus defence force.
@@downunderdudes5227u doing it wrong. if u like it so much u should do sn@ke t@too like in esc@pe from ny. this is the t@too he uses
Mgs3 was better imo.
5:46 THIS MEANS SO MUCH MORE NOW BECAUSE OF MGS5
After seeing Zero's side of things in the Phantom Pain, this cutscene is wild now. The AI truly was just created to continue his work thanks to Skull Face's meddling, but it got out of control and his infection worsened. While The Boss had died when her will was passed along, Zero got to witness every part of it, and saw just how much it all fell apart.
Because not a single member of Snake Eater team truly understand The Boss.
In a nutshell, all of them thought she wish to change the world for the better. A world without a cold war, without war and only peace for the countries and the world.
But the truth she didn't want to fight for a change. She just want to fight to keep things as it were.
No system control, no super-government entity like Washington, Moscow or an AI of later era puppeting the world as they please.
Goddamn, how STUPID I was to finish this game late on a Sunday, thinking the final cutscene wouldn't be THAT long . . . .
Not sure what you expect from a kojima game
i did the same and I had class in the morning lol
Greatest reveal of the entire series is the fact that Big Boss is the good guy.
everyone just trying to achieve their goals but got tangled with each other.
nah, he wanted a world of endless war and chaos. he is far from a good guy
@@mr.monkey354que?
Absolutamente no, quería un mundo donde los soldados fueran valorados, un lugar donde pudieran vivir como personas y no como simples herramientas (como the boss)
@@JonathanPY Es por eso que la gente no debería ignorar los juegos de msx. Big Boss literalmente mató a los padres de los niños, luego fingió rescatarlos solo para prepararlos para su propio ejército y crear un ciclo de guerra interminable. él no era un héroe,
@@mr.monkey354 Viste esos actos o te dijeron eso?
Ahí lo dejo, te recuerdo que los patriots eran capaces de moldear el contexto de las acciones de todas las personas
This fucking game.. Hollywood wishes it could write films this good.
pfff dont talk about hollywoods the've been dead 10 years ago
As much as I like this game, the writing is awful hahaha. The opinions of children
@@KamiKazeDHollywood isn’t dead hahaha
@@curiositytax9360 Sure feels like it. I stopped being about making good new movies and became about. "How can i take someone elses movie and "do it better"
What I appreciate about this scene is that they decided to not have Big Boss take apart that 1911 apart like some movies do. 1911s aren’t easy guns to take apart, especially with the barrel bushing possibly flying out from the pressure of the buffer spring.
Tell that to the Boss lol
I was literally waiting for him to do it 😂
@@loganross705the pistol in the virtuous mission on MGS3 says its a 1911, but in reality, it's a Browning Hi Power. So you could take apart a Hi Power like The Boss does.
@@gjmarkjesse1324 there is no 1911 in the virtuous mission. The boss dismantles both your mk22 and the basic 1911 (not the customised one) you have at the start of operation snake eater.
26:20 the best scene that will ever exist.
Facts, one last cigar
I love how Zero is the main antagonist of the series, he's the cause of like 80% of all what happened. The Patriots, Les Enfant Terribles, FOXDIE, Shadow Moses, Big Shell, the MPCs, even the events of Metal Gear Rising, all of that and more were Zero's doing or a consequence of his doings. He was the most powerful man in the whole planet. And yet, when we finally meet him, he's a senile old man that doesn't even know where he is and needs a machine to breathe and pee. Is like the Ozymandias poem.
MGSV reveal that he wasnt the antagonist. Wath the true tapes. There lies the answer to Big boss's question. Fear? Hatred? The answer, non, Zero always saw him as a friend.
David bested his father in three different ways: as a soldier, a man, and even quite smoking. He truly deserved this send-off
I love in the MGSV tapes you get after beating the game, he says refering to Les enfentte terrible: "They're no sons of mine..." But later accepts david, calling him his son ❤
That was Venom, not Big Boss
@@pheilimobrien6634when you beat the game, you get the truth tapes, which is big boss, not venom
@@jokersfr Is that Big Boss actually? I don't remember it being stated or not
@pheilimobrien6634 it's big boss because in other tapes he talks about venom being the best man they had
@@jokersfr Thanks for clearing that up 👍
Haven't even played MGS4, still hits harder than my dad
Yoooo
💀
Imagine being Richard Doyle and reading these lines. I’ve been playing MGS games for over 10 years and read the wikis multiple times. I still barely understand what’s going on half the time
Neither Konami, even Kojima understand what they created anymore. Trying to tie up loose ends just created more of them. That's what happened. Even though I like metal gear saga, it's quite confusing sometimes.
@@pedrorezende6444 It's also kind of stupid what the Patriots turned out to be. Zero wasn't even painted out to be an important character who would shape the events of the entire series in MGS3. They didn't even lay the groundwork correctly.
@@LordVader89How did a man from my country, end up creating AIs that would eventually controlling the flow of information? Manipulate how people think and act? Also he had an unnamed sister so I do wonder what happened to her.
I doubt Zero had any family either.
@@LordVader89With V, Kojima tried to rectify it.
@@LordVader89I mean realistically the most powerful leaders in humanity aren't always painted as important people from the beginning, the point of the Patriots was to remain hidden in the shadows, so obviously any sort of revelation about who they were was gonna feel weird anyway
"Please remember the basic of Close quarter cuddling"
The most powerful CQC move, hands down.
I really miss metal gear 😢
5:45 The most important sentence in the entire series.
Venom
greatest ending in gaming history!
i said it yes!
in so many ways!
ya think its over, snake kills himself then the credits rolls....
until ya see big boss name ( voice actor)!
but how , he was in a coma the whole time he didnt speak a word?
then this scene, .......how amazing!
the two japanese voice actors r actuall son and father,
the legend goes that their relationship wasnt that good, and they havent seen each other in so long until this scene they made together!
this game is a masterpiece, if only ppl gave it more love !
If only konami gave it more love and remaster it on all consoles. It's a shame it's stuck on a ps3, not everyone owns a ps3 and not everyone can emulate a ps3. Hopefully MGS master collection Vol 2 includes it. Also I would say another great video game ending on par with this is Assassin's Creed revelations where Ezio meets Altair in the library and also speaks with Desmond. That was one of the best ending too. But mgs4 ending is just perfect with how it ties everything and ends the story of big boss and solid Snake.
Solid Snake’s birth was what drove Big Boss away from Zero, yet his actions are what brought them together
Further proof that he is more than just a product of his genes
i cried so hard in this game, it was honestly the most beautiful story/lore/game series crafted.......and i'll never forget it
Big Boss is a real man. Spent his life living through mistake after mistake yet still trying to teach people (mainly his 'son/brother/soldier/clone') to be better people than he was and learn from his mistakes. We can only try to help other generations not to feel the same pain and suffering by showing them our own failures but sometimes lived experience is the best teacher.
The saddest moment in the MGS timeline. And one of the most legendary.
Remember, y'all, this was a LAUNCH TITLE for the Playstation 3. This MASTERPIECE of storytelling and technical achievement. Remember that the next time some AAA hack company tries to make excuses for their poorly polished, $70 turd.
One of the best endings and, IMO, best moments in gaming.
"Snake... It's finally time for you to touch grass..."
The way that big boss has to use cqc to give solid snake a hug is kinda heartbreaking, reminds me of those soldiers who thought ww2 was still going on years later
One interesting thing about the final cut of this game with the japanese dub is that big boss was voiced by Snake's father and as Snake's VA wasn't on speaking terms with his father it actually lead to them reuniting. This was great as it allowed Snake's VA to be there before his father died months later.
The series chronologically begins with Big Boss smoking a cigar and ends with him smoking a cigar.
Yes I know MGR exists but I"m talking about the mainline games.
1:45 tactical hug 🫂
Ever since the day I killed The Boss… With my own hands… I… Was already dead.
R.I.P. BIG BOSS
Who else stood up, saluted and cried like a baby
Funny how Big Boss looks at the Patriot and remembering that day he killed The Boss
Seeing the Boss come up in the credits at the very end by surprise shook me to my core when I first saw this 😭
This whole series is just the phrase: "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
I love the small detail when Big Boss ejects the magazine from Snake's 1911 then proceeds to also empty the chamber.
I still get so many chills/tears from this cutscene. "This is good........Isn't it?" makes me cry every single time
The salute from MGS 3 will not be topped, but I do think them sharing the cigar has its own merits.
My fucking god. I don't care what anyone says - this is simply amazing and above everything I've ever seen in video game cutscenes.
So do i
Old snake and big boss have an emotional conversation
Cemetery guard watching from afar in the security booth:Wtf what is going on here
"Not that I'm the only witness" *pause so all the gamers get it*
damn this makes so much sense now because of mgsv and rising this is the perfect way to end the solids in a narrative sense
When someone argues video games aren’t art, send them here.
Big boss saying David would’ve done better than him still messes me up
Bro I can’t wait to play this when hopefully the second volume collection releases. Hopefully…
I’m hoping for the same!!
It will
this games epilogue is the very same world we live in 2023...
Seem like this is happening right now crazy how they made this story up when this game came out.
It wasn’t a made up story. I’m convinced this is a documentary. The game being a medium through which Kojima is communicating the system we currently operate under
Very well said i agree @@HeierMr
5:48 ''Under certain conditions, someone can be made to play a specific role. Act like someone else''
I'm sure Big Boss has plenty of experience with this, considering what he did to Venon Snake.
Ps: If Kojima was still with Konami, I really believe he would have made a patch to the then 7 year old game where you could press X to play flashbacks of Venon when he says this quote
I could listen to Richard Doyle reading the lore of MGS for hours. The man did a great job voice acting Big Boss.
I wish I could play this game and see this ending for the 1st time, I got the game on 2008 but I didn't play it until 2010 because I didn't feel ready.
Those feelings and memories will stick with me forever.
I think something that people often misunderstand about the death of Zero in this scene here is that Big Boss isn't choking an enemy, he's holding an old friend in his final moments
How could you interpret any other way than the latter?
@@TREVORVADER some people see the hug as a choke hold like I said
Big boss calling solid his son
This is impressive
I can see why the movie keeps getting delayed… I would constantly second guess myself on how to touch any of this too
One's end gave a meaning to the other... MGS will forever be one of the best game series in the coming generations
I like how Big Boss calls Zero out on creating the war economy and doesn't mention how himself and Miller and "Liquid Ocelot" were responsible for creating the age of PMCs...
Solid has always been the most moral Big Boss variant, maybe Venom comes close.
Did you saw the true Tapes of MGSV? Zero was never the enemy. The AI were set in place long after he was set out of comisión.
Just finished this after finally seeing the other games and man it was a trip.
RIP to Big Boss. The Legend
Ocelot and Liquid as well. Series wouldn’t be the same without such iconic villains.
Also I felt more sadness when Zero died than I cares at all for Naomi in any capacity in this game.
Big Boss tried to make a difference for all soldiers to take down the system. But he couldn’t keep it up because time was the challenge because in that time multiple obstacles were present and different successors could only do so much to keep the original dream alive.
The perfect example is with Big Boss trying to fulfill the dream of The Boss but over time his view changed over time and it wasn’t till his final moments he realized what The Boss ideals were the reason to fight
The Boss was a soldier, an agent, and an astronaut. She wanted to share the meaning she found in space, but it was one only an astronaut could appreciate.
So, her followers - a soldier and an agent - attempted to interpret that meaning. These misinterpretations plunged the world into endless conflict...
Me seeing the barber for the first time after 10 years of long hair
When you smoke so much you look older than ykur dad😂
Thats a cool fact about soldiers mind. Snake is literally there to end his life, but still defends it from Big Boss
A beautiful thing a lot of people do not know is that the Japanese voice actors for Solid Snake and Big Boss, Chikao Ôtsuka & Akio Ôtsuka, are father and son in real life. There’s something that I’ve been hearing ever since this game came out that apparently this father and son duo were going through some rough shit, estranged or just not on talking terms, and they reconciled due to the voice acting of this game since they had to meet and obviously look at the scene, I mean come on! Fucking beautiful.
Also, Akio is the voice actor of Shunsui in BLEACH. Anyone search his image up - it’s a guy with long brown hair in a low tiny pony, a scuffle beard and is eventually given an eyepatch and scar. I remember so much art came out of Shunsui being BB during that time when he got his eye patch.
And this can only be crowned by the Big Boss rank you get instantly after line with the music que
"the world would be better off without snakes"
start crying...
"This is good... Isn't it?"
The fourth game is hard to play not because it isn’t good but because it’s so emotional! The end of a masterpiece!
That trip to shadow moses hit me like a ton of bricks. I was playing it next to my best friend who I've known since 5th grade who used to call me for help with mgs1. It was a wild moment to go back to.
I like how poetic it is that Big Boss has the Patriot machine gun that he inherited from the Boss from MGS3.
Probably the one of the most impactful scenes in all of Metal Gear. The A.I. revelation in 2, this, and Senator Armstrong' rant (being completely serious, even if it's non-canon.) Also, the very last line of the game: "The sun (a new "son") is rising again."😏
30:08 Sunny: it’s rising again!
Raiden: say that again?
If i get old. I want to look like big boss and not zero
The secret: hard training and good nutrition food
Ocelot gave his life in order to prevent the downfall of humankind, just like his mother did fifty years ago.
He's pretty good!