I absolutely love it when Jesse asks Darren questions during the videos it provides so much insight. He always asks the questions I never think to ask it’s great
This may have been the most educational video of yours ive ever seen. I learned so much. Thanks for all the info and insight. This ball looks crazy. I only own one reactive ball and this may become by second.
I really appreciate Jesse asking educated questions that the viewers might be thinking. I really enjoy the videos I had a question I am thinking about getting the gem what are your thoughts on that ball?
I’ve been bowling for almost 8 years and it’s insane how much info I’ve learned about bowling and how much thought and strategy goes into bowling. I always try to explain to people bowling in more detail but they always get lost 😂
Darren, really enjoy your bowling youtube videos. I think you compare bowling balls with a precision on how they react on different lane conditions. I know the PBA season almost over, but want to wish you the "BEST OF LUCK" in coming years.
this video was great - i do appreciate Jesse asking you the questions while you are trying the ball out and having you move all over the place. you give a lot more information about the ball and your mindset than a lot of other people who do ball reviews. that ball definitely looks great though - great stuff guys thanks for everything
Great video, as always! Thanks to you, I bought the Zen Soul and I'm loving it. Now, how about an RST-X3 ball review and a ball comparison to the Zen Soul?
I received this ball a couple months ago. Last night, I averaged 212 in league with this ball, along with my Tropical Surge as a spare ball. I love this ball.
Hello, want to get back into bowling league. Use to be around 180 average 15 mph speed. It has been 8 years. Looking for a very versatile ball for for most conditions. I like to start more up the middle/right and work my way left as the lanes change. Looking into the Phase 2, Phase 3, Zen Master, Zen soul, Reality, polaris (love the looks), parallax, Jakal Flash. Any insight or suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
Huge fan, SJSU bowling team talks a lot about you. Another great content. I’m a beginner and I’m debating, should I get the ufo alert or the 900 global reality? If you can help me decide that would be great. Thank you so much. Continue with the amazing videos.
I love Darren's throws they're so perfect, even though I'm an unconventional bowler hid approach is my favorite. My arsenal is a Phaze 2, Hyroad Pearl and an old school Rapid Fire Pearl. Any advice for someone who throws with no thumb to get more speed and since I have a natural hook can I get better or do you recommend using thr thumb?
Well I'm a two handed bowler but also don't use my thumb what helps me is making my arms loose and using momentum sliding on the last step and starting the ball low not high up to my chest
I could never get my zen to move consistently off the pattern. But I put 2000 on it and bowled with it until it lane shined again. I shot 300 after that.
Ok now I'm definitely confused. After the Brunswick Quantum Helices came out, any more balls with different coverstocks on different areas of the surface were banned, so how could a hybrid ball have some areas of its surface solid and other areas pearl, rather than an even blend throughout?
Hey Darren, awesome video btw, I'm trying to set up a bowling arsenal much like yours with the Reality but I was wondering, based on how the Soul is rolling, could it take the place of Phaze 2 or the Zen better?
I hope you are right about how Hybrids are made. I always thought it was a blend of pearl and solid throughout the coverstock. If it is just in certain areas of the ball, this is groundbreaking news. 💯
Don't get too discouraged if you aren't rolling it as well as you used to at first. Go practice once or twice a week and you'll be back to form in no time. I know this from experience as I just got back into bowling myself a month or so ago and I just now started hitting my average from before. My first game back after almost two years was an 87, which was about 110 below my average lol.
I literally just had this convo with my son… (I don’t bowl many tournaments) I have 4 pearls that I use regularly. I have an Obsession Tour & just drilled a UC3 for nationals.
"double move" ah learned something new and ok, now I have to stop doing that. Didn't know that was bad to do, but when I think about it, makes perfect sense. thanks
When I bowled in that house in January the house shot was flooded, I had a 2000 grit that wouldn't move and the PSO thought I was coming into his shop because I couldn't get the ball to move, when I just needed him to open my thumb more. Lol
My Hammer 3D Offset is a Pearl Hybrid...but it's only one color. That doesn't connect with your description with the three-color hybrid - 2 to 1, or 1 to 2 - so how does that work?
I'm assuming whenever you say a ball is "MORE SMOOTH" than some other ball you're saying the hook is more controllable and the ball doesn't hook as crazy? I'm thinking if I said the Tropical Surge is more smooth than the Axiom Pearl that would be a correct statement? Just making sure I don't keep assuming all to realize I've been wrong for years and years the way I was when it came to surfacing bowling balls. I always assumed sanding a ball to a lower grit meant the ball would hook in a more aggressive shape down lane than if a ball was surfaced with a 3000 or 4000 grit pad. Found out after YEARS that it was completely opposite of what I assumed all those years. 😆
No, cover and core are significantly different. S70 hybrid is way earlier on Zen soul than rs3 hybrid on P3. R3S hybrid on phaze 3 is much cleaner and WAY quicker off friction. Velicity Core also revs up way later and faster on the phaze 3. You get about the same amount of boards left to right but that doesn't really matter . Where and when the ball hooks front to back is much more important. The soul is More comparable to a phaze 2 for sure. Zen is closer to phaze 3 even though ones a pearl and ones a hybrid. Why he mentioned those designators not being important. Only ball like the OG Zen is the OG phaze.(not the r2s version) P3 is kinda in its own class since wolverine and Spectre aren't around. R.I.P. R3S is soooooo good. Hopefully we get another R3S ball soon. 🙏
@@anthonyhooser492 I would have thought that since they are both hybrids the would be similar, but the nova is an asymmetric ball so it would be stronger I guess?
@@noahmardis841 yea the way I play my nova anyway is on a fresh house shot, it's so strong and burns up quick, looks like the zen soul is a little more versatile than that
I learned something completely new today, and that is that the blend of colors on a hybrid ball are likely different materials. I never even considered that was a possibility until now.
I absolutely love it when Jesse asks Darren questions during the videos it provides so much insight. He always asks the questions I never think to ask it’s great
shows you that jesse actually enjoys bowling and is always wanting to improve his game.
This may have been the most educational video of yours ive ever seen. I learned so much. Thanks for all the info and insight. This ball looks crazy. I only own one reactive ball and this may become by second.
I really appreciate Jesse asking educated questions that the viewers might be thinking. I really enjoy the videos I had a question I am thinking about getting the gem what are your thoughts on that ball?
that was hands down one of the best informational insight video so far from you Darren!
I’ve been bowling for almost 8 years and it’s insane how much info I’ve learned about bowling and how much thought and strategy goes into bowling. I always try to explain to people bowling in more detail but they always get lost 😂
Darren, really enjoy your bowling youtube videos. I think you compare bowling balls with a precision on how they react on different lane conditions. I know the PBA season almost over, but want to wish you the "BEST OF LUCK" in coming years.
Going back in time with this one. The Zen & Zen soul remind me soooo much of the Prodigy.
this video was great - i do appreciate Jesse asking you the questions while you are trying the ball out and having you move all over the place. you give a lot more information about the ball and your mindset than a lot of other people who do ball reviews. that ball definitely looks great though - great stuff guys thanks for everything
Thank you for reviewing this ball. It will be in my bag shortly
Zen ball good! Thanks Jessie, was always wondering that about hybrid covers as well
Just noticed. Congratulations with the 100k subs guys 👏🏽. I’m learning a lot from ya’ll 🙏
Great video, as always! Thanks to you, I bought the Zen Soul and I'm loving it. Now, how about an RST-X3 ball review and a ball comparison to the Zen Soul?
I received this ball a couple months ago. Last night, I averaged 212 in league with this ball, along with my Tropical Surge as a spare ball. I love this ball.
Hello, want to get back into bowling league. Use to be around 180 average 15 mph speed. It has been 8 years. Looking for a very versatile ball for for most conditions. I like to start more up the middle/right and work my way left as the lanes change. Looking into the Phase 2, Phase 3, Zen Master, Zen soul, Reality, polaris (love the looks), parallax, Jakal Flash. Any insight or suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
Already have a zen. cant wait to get my hand on zen soul once it hits my country. Zen ball good!!, Zen soul(so) good!!!
Thank you Darren between Phase 2and Zen that is why I pre ordered. Have them both excellent 👌
Huge fan, SJSU bowling team talks a lot about you. Another great content. I’m a beginner and I’m debating, should I get the ufo alert or the 900 global reality? If you can help me decide that would be great. Thank you so much. Continue with the amazing videos.
I love Darren's throws they're so perfect, even though I'm an unconventional bowler hid approach is my favorite. My arsenal is a Phaze 2, Hyroad Pearl and an old school Rapid Fire Pearl.
Any advice for someone who throws with no thumb to get more speed and since I have a natural hook can I get better or do you recommend using thr thumb?
Well I'm a two handed bowler but also don't use my thumb what helps me is making my arms loose and using momentum sliding on the last step and starting the ball low not high up to my chest
I bowl alot like you do with just about the same rev rate. House pattern looks great really wants to roll off it well. I’m sold!
How did you drill the ball? Layout? Pin up / pin down?
I wish I got to train with you that one year in Lehi, Utah for the Storm event. You’re amazing!
I could never get my zen to move consistently off the pattern. But I put 2000 on it and bowled with it until it lane shined again. I shot 300 after that.
Yeah Zen ball good when you hit it with some grit, fresh out the box it did not move how I liked it
I've been playing with surface all this year... don't like a ball??? Change the surface and it may be your best piece.
Good stuff man! I am loving my Soul!
Ok now I'm definitely confused. After the Brunswick Quantum Helices came out, any more balls with different coverstocks on different areas of the surface were banned, so how could a hybrid ball have some areas of its surface solid and other areas pearl, rather than an even blend throughout?
Hey Darren, awesome video btw, I'm trying to set up a bowling arsenal much like yours with the Reality but I was wondering, based on how the Soul is rolling, could it take the place of Phaze 2 or the Zen better?
How does this ball do on a house pattern and when it starts to dry up. And what would be a good ball to pair it with?
I love my Zen Soul. Always the 2nd ball out of my bag
Darren you should do tutorial videos. Like, how to bowl farther left? I need help with that.
Hey Darren is this Zen Soul good for the transition or the Fresh?
I hope you are right about how Hybrids are made. I always thought it was a blend of pearl and solid throughout the coverstock. If it is just in certain areas of the ball, this is groundbreaking news.
💯
So when is the zen soul good to use on the fresh or dry? And how about the original zen can I have both in my bag?
ZEN BALL GOOD!! GREAT VIDEO!!
Can you do a video showing your pin and span layout? One of the balls looks like it doesn't have a slug in it.
Which one better zen or zen soul
What advice would you give to someone considering getting back into bowling?
Send it.
Don't get too discouraged if you aren't rolling it as well as you used to at first. Go practice once or twice a week and you'll be back to form in no time. I know this from experience as I just got back into bowling myself a month or so ago and I just now started hitting my average from before. My first game back after almost two years was an 87, which was about 110 below my average lol.
Hey Darren I’m looking for a new ball preferably a new zen do I wait for the new one or get the zen or zen master
Your ball roll and delivery looks good Darren
Did I miss your recap of your win at Double Decker in NoCal?
Back to Back Flat Ten Shots kicked out NICE!
I literally just had this convo with my son… (I don’t bowl many tournaments)
I have 4 pearls that I use regularly. I have an Obsession Tour & just drilled a UC3 for nationals.
Yo Darren, do you still have any of those alpha crux's from your bowling ball closet showcase video, I want to buy one.
I really REALLY appreciated the baseball joke off the bat comment. i would have totally done the same!
What’s the weight of the ball your using ?
You said that about the Rubicon UC3 so I went out and got one. Now I have to get this :'(((
"double move" ah learned something new and ok, now I have to stop doing that. Didn't know that was bad to do, but when I think about it, makes perfect sense. thanks
When I bowled in that house in January the house shot was flooded, I had a 2000 grit that wouldn't move and the PSO thought I was coming into his shop because I couldn't get the ball to move, when I just needed him to open my thumb more. Lol
All eyes on Zen Soul until Bowl Expo. Looks great!
So Darren technical 😂! Just BFF, Bowl For Fun!
all my homies love sunset station
Zen ball good! Zen Soul bring peace to your soul? Bit of a stretch I think. Lol
I trust you and what you say because I'll watch you all the time
How did you laid out the ZenSoul
What weight are you throwing?
D $$$ YOU SICK WITH IT...
My Hammer 3D Offset is a Pearl Hybrid...but it's only one color. That doesn't connect with your description with the three-color hybrid - 2 to 1, or 1 to 2 - so how does that work?
Fairly positive that one is just a pearl. But it’s a single color, it’s probably a pour of pearl and solid, just the same color.
3d offset isn't a hybrid, it's a pearl
Zen is almost perfect but the master was a little too strong. Hoping this ball is good in between
The pattern at Sunset Station is actually around 38 feet. shorter than most THS's.
Great video! Thanks for the content
Darren,
Another well made video.
I just bought a Zen soul.Thanks D.Tang..
Wait is that really true about hybrid bowling balls?
I just purchased this ball today used Its not too bad just hooks late
I'm assuming whenever you say a ball is "MORE SMOOTH" than some other ball you're saying the hook is more controllable and the ball doesn't hook as crazy?
I'm thinking if I said the Tropical Surge is more smooth than the Axiom Pearl that would be a correct statement? Just making sure I don't keep assuming all to
realize I've been wrong for years and years the way I was when it came to surfacing bowling balls. I always assumed sanding a ball to a lower grit meant the
ball would hook in a more aggressive shape down lane than if a ball was surfaced with a 3000 or 4000 grit pad. Found out after YEARS that it was completely
opposite of what I assumed all those years. 😆
Smooth is the opposite of angular. Urethane balls tend to have vey smooth reactions; they never jump or make a hockey stick or fish hook shape.
What layout did you go with on it?
Got mine coming I can’t wait
The Zen is a pearl. But in my opinion it rolls like a solid. Its even smoother then a Zen Soul for me. And based on what I’ve seen from other people.
zen ball good?
Holy crap i never knew about the different swirl parts.
gonna guess the black is the solid portion since its on the master, can anyone confirm?
If the ball is going through the pins at 14.9mph about how fast is that off the hand?
Add 2 mph normally
Looking forward to refinishing my Zen to 4K Fast and putting the Soul in my bag.
ZEN BALL GOOOOD!!!
Keep definitely keep zen polished
I hope Storm doesn't make it illegal too. I'm about to go back to EBI.
How’d this video come out before the GEM!?
Is this close to the altered reality? I have to trade mine in so I’m just trying to figure out what ball to replace it with
I don't think zen soul is one of the options for a trade in. A dark code maybe
I would go Dark Code or RST X2. Just my opinion though. Cheers!
Looks like New Zen Ball Good
Is the Zen soul and the phase 3 comparable
No, cover and core are significantly different. S70 hybrid is way earlier on Zen soul than rs3 hybrid on P3. R3S hybrid on phaze 3 is much cleaner and WAY quicker off friction. Velicity Core also revs up way later and faster on the phaze 3. You get about the same amount of boards left to right but that doesn't really matter . Where and when the ball hooks front to back is much more important. The soul is More comparable to a phaze 2 for sure. Zen is closer to phaze 3 even though ones a pearl and ones a hybrid. Why he mentioned those designators not being important. Only ball like the OG Zen is the OG phaze.(not the r2s version) P3 is kinda in its own class since wolverine and Spectre aren't around. R.I.P.
R3S is soooooo good. Hopefully we get another R3S ball soon. 🙏
Would you say get the nova or zen soul?
Nova is probably closer to a zen master
@@anthonyhooser492 I would have thought that since they are both hybrids the would be similar, but the nova is an asymmetric ball so it would be stronger I guess?
Those two aren’t very comparable
@@noahmardis841 yea the way I play my nova anyway is on a fresh house shot, it's so strong and burns up quick, looks like the zen soul is a little more versatile than that
If Jessie gets it, lets see the layout (2hander here)
Zenball always good
Great video
I love the Zen
brand new
That's my dare devil trick
Brilliant!!!
THERE IS NO WAY THATS HOW HYBRIDS WORK. IM EITHER GETTING BIG TROLLED OR MY MIND HAS JUST BEEN BLOWN.
😂
Zen Ball Good!!!!! Love the vids!!!
ZEN BALL SOUL GOODER!
Zen ball good 2.0
Zen Ball Good! Zen Soul Ball Good!
thia ball is crazy
ZEN BALL GOOD!
zen ball gooooooooooood!!!!
Zen ball good😩
I learned something completely new today, and that is that the blend of colors on a hybrid ball are likely different materials. I never even considered that was a possibility until now.
9:00 damn straight when my friend leaves a 10 pin, he gets mad saying it should have struck. I say throw a better ball b****
Look like a first blood ball
Zen balls good
Soul good! 😅
I hope this wont be too expensive.
187$ for you
Sad
#ZENBALLGOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDD