Bowling Tips: Pearl Bowling Balls vs Solid Bowling Balls | What's The Difference and What Do I Need?
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So really, to make more sense to bowlers, balls should be classified as Early Reaction vs. Later Reaction.
Solids skid less, react to the lane early and layoff in the back.
Pearls skid more, react to the lane late and are more aggressive in the back.
You just help me more than any video I've watched today.
The easiest way to sum up the difference is if you want to control front to back: pick a solid. If you’re looking to get through the heads and control side to side: pearl.
I view the difference between solid and pearl bowling balls is pearl balls go longer before hooking. Bigger bowlers who really juice up the ball can use either type. But smaller bowlers like myself have to go with pearl balls because solid balls lose too much power and are weak by the time they get to the pocket.
Probably the best video I’ve ever seen regarding this topic…..top marks JR!
This was a fantastic visual that I needed!
I like this review based on the fact, that you are comparing two different balls in the same lane area. This gives us viewers a better idea of what the ball will do on the lane. I would like to see more videos like this. Old ball vs a new just released ball.....for example.
Sometimes when league is on a burnt up pattern my black widow pearl acts like your redemption solid does here - sees the friction really early and doesn't make it through the pins. It's wild that to hook more, I gotta go even weaker. I've got a symmetrical pearl for this scenario and it works really well (c300 power drive).
a good summary is: if your aggressive ball isn't hooking, don't go more aggressive, maybe instead go less. If your weak ball is overhooking, you can go stronger, it'll read early and gradually hook. counter intuitive, eh?
That makes.. perfect sense. I am still using house balls and I've noticed the faster I throw, the more it acts like a spare ball. I think it comes down to Rev vs Speed?
@@farvezafridifaizurrahman6980 Revs and speed definitely play into it. More speed generally means less hook (at same revs). More revs generally means more hook (at same speed). I think that basically got to do with how many rotations the ball makes in the 40 or so feet of oil. More rotations on the lane means more hook. Generally.
House balls hook better when you bowl slow and spin the heck out of it. If you launch it down the lane, you definitely won't get much hook, because the amount of rotations the ball makes in total is less, since the ball spends less time going down the lane. Slow it down, give it the RPM you want, and it'll hook. If you want to spare with it, and you have a hard time not spinning the ball, then bowl faster and you'll get less hook on it.
So yes, you're right.
This video by JR highlights that ball "hook" or motion isn't necessarily represented by side-to-side motion, but actually front-to-back. If a ball is hooking earlier, which solid covers are supposed to do, the total amount of hook is dragged out over the length of the lane and overall you won't get a lot of side-to-side hook. A ball the hooks late, that can skid through the whole front and mid parts of the lane, like Pearl balls are supposed to do, hook way more downlane because they haven't started hooking yet when they reach the friction. So they explode all their hook power in a short distance, resulting in a lot of side-to-side hook. So if a ball hooks early, it's a more gradual line, but if it hooks late, it'll be sharper.
It's why my aggressive balls look so bad when the lanes are burnt up dry; they're hooking super early and have no steam by the time they get to the friction. I've got a weaker ball that hooks like a beast for this scenario because it keeps it all for the back-end and releases it all then. Front-to-back motion is really the key thing to look for.
I think the comparison would be better between the same ball in terms of the name like redemption solid and redemption Pearl or idol solid and idol pearl. Bc they have the same cores as each other but the only thing that makes it different is the cover. That would show a more true reading in difference
Some manufacturers use the same core, but their cover stock has these differences to make more models, despite the "skin" being the only difference
Thank you very much! I was going through this headache just recently…..
This video is a BIG help. Thanks
Great video, I'm looking to get into hook bowling after years of bowling with a plastic straight line ball. Cheers!
Great Video. Thank You. Now i really understand the difference between solid and Pearl and hopefully get better scores with my Balls.
That explains why some times when I ball up on a third game and the lanes have transitioned it works. I thought I was going crazy. It’s the combination of the condition , the ball type, and the ball surface if I’m getting this correct.
Great video! So many people make this mistake including myself when I first started bowling league.
Fantastic video. Great info for bowlers of all ages and experience levels. Nicely done.
I totally agree to see difference in covers you should have and i would love to see same ball/core just pearl vs solid
Isnt the storm axiom and storm axiom pearl the same ball/core?
Melee series and knock out series, melee is pearl and knock out is solid but same core
The best information and in very detail you can find on youtube :)
I love the split screen , very helpful
Going to purchase the new hammer ghost pearl. I bowl on a THS 90% of the time and this will be my very first pearl cover stock in my Arsenal. Hoping to delay reaction down lane once I wear the lane down a bit and maybe not have to move so far left toward the end of a series.
Great, great video, very informative on pearl versus a solid, I have no solid balls, I will now though.
it would be interesting to see this test done with out of box surface. redemption has a lot of lane shine or polish on it.
Good video!
Dear JR...
I have one question for you.
First off, I love your videos, I am a 47 y/o Army Vet, and watching you has helped me with my game IMMENSELY.
So now the question...
Why do you blow/huff/ forcefully exhale breath into your thumb(?) and/or Finger Holes..
I tried that once, and all I got was a extremely sticky mess, after all I am in South Florida, where it is 80% or higher relative humidity..
I usually put my fan on my holes to give them "Cool" air...
Once again, thank u.
Sincerely,
Jason
Interesting. My problem is reading the lane and matching it to the ball.
This explains alot. I have had nights where my Rhino pearl was outhooking my Columbia Baller. It was crazy.
A lot of people assume the "strongest" cover equals the most hook. At my home center the amount of friction on the panels burns up most of the big cover bowling balls. Granted low rev speed dominant players sometimes do need the surface. But I will almost never have a top tier performance ball in my hand.
It makes more sense when you describe it front to back. Obviously some balls do have more motion left to right, but a stronger ball hooks sooner, and a weaker ball hooks later.
If there's heavy oil, a stronger ball will shape more like what people expect and a weaker ball may hook very little or just fly by where it normally would hook in League.
For most house shots, a "strong" ball or a ball with a lot of surface will hook earlier and then roll straighter toward the pocket, where you will find a weaker ball travels farther and then hooks back more dramatically to the pocket, depending on the core and rev rate of course.
@@jeremiegrund dominant* - just trying to help.
I watch your vids to go ti sleep bc there good reviews and i hear your from michigan like 30 minutes away from me 😂😂im on ketterings varsity not sure if you know the highschool circut or not
I just got a Redemption and seems to work very nice for me cause I got a lot of speed but low rev rate, but this video was really interesting, I didn't know that pearls can hook that much!
I made a comment above of my Rhino pearl outhooking my Columbia Baller
I have a dv8 turmoil 2 pearl. That thing is an animal. It is the first option out of my bag at one of the houses I bowl in.
Nice video. What grit levels did you prep your bowling balls with? How do you complement solid vs pearl with grit levels for different conditions?
This may be 1 of the best videos explaining strong which doesn’t mean hook or backend. Makes u wonder why the “big” balls cost 1/2 a paycheck and the pearls are cheap.
I can’t wait until my new bowling ball get here. Ordance pearl motion
this is the reason i have a full pearl arsenal for the house shott i play on it is a med - heavy house shot 41ft but there is so much friction to the outside i can get away using pearls deep and sit there all day since they will skid through the front and just have such a hard snap to the pocket once it gets into the outside friction
So u bowl str8 like up 10?im just tryin to understand the lingo
@@cuanedwards1911 when someone says they play deep it generally means they are playing from middle arrow or more left of that and the outside part of the lane is just the spot on the lane where there is less/no oil
@@xPandora__ oh ok thanks for the clarification
Great video. Why is the DV8 Intimidator pearl pictured when the trend is used though?
Make video use one ball on various lane patterns and teach us how to adjust. Back in the day I was told and I think rightfully so you a good when you have multiple balls for multiple lane conditions, your great when you have one ball that does it all
Im trying to decide wether or not to buy jackal flash so that when my jackal ghost starts reading early i can switch to flash....little cleaner/bit stronger back end...but with balls costing $250 id like to see that tested
I have a question that may or may not be related to the subject of this video. If Storm's NeX is considered the company's strongest coverstock, what does Brunswick have as their company's strongest coverstock?
I use pearl when I need to get through the heads cleanly with strong down lane movement. I use solid when I need to get the ball to start up earlier. Just general rule of thumb for me.
So on a fresh leauge pattern, what should u start with,a stronger earlier ball?
Like my omega crux?
@@cuanedwards1911 That's completely dependent on the house and the pattern that they use. On the regular house shot where I bowl, I start out with pearl still because of how the lanes play and because I'm rev dominant. Someone who is speed dominant would probably do better with a stronger solid.
This video is the perfect opportunity to compare Axiom vs Axiom Pearl 😏
Would also be cool as a surface video to compare the Axiom polished vs the Axiom Pearl at 3,000
I'm contemplating getting an Axiom to replace my Hyroad Nano. I've got speed but somewhat lower revs, I tend to line up over 2nd arrow and curve into the pocket. With solid, pearl, and surface to think about, I'm now sure which to get, the Axiom or Axiom pearl.
@@m.cerullo3473 If you like the nano coverstocks, the Axiom is great. I don't really know anything about the Hyroad Nano, but I played the same part of the lane at 18-19mph, about a 250-275 rev rate and the Axiom (pin up) worked pretty well for me. I consistently got it to the pocket, just sometimes needed to change a finger position if I started leaving a 10 pin. I'm a 155 average bowler. First game I bowled in my home alley after I got it was a 243!
It can have a pretty hook set reaction if you throw with a low axis tilt and a lot of axis rotation, or it can walk itself right over to the pocket if you lay it down and come up the back a bit more. Really versatile, but a lot straighter and smoother off the backend than my other 2 balls. Once i started slowing my speed down to 16mph, I started needing more length and could finally throw an asym ball (usually threw too fast for them to rev up and do what they do).
So now I typically start with a pin down Nuclear Cell, and get the Axiom out if it's moving on the backend too much (read is around the same spot in the mid-lane, but the Nuke continues arcing closer to the pins and jumps left if there's a dry spot, where the Axiom goes a lot straighter to the pocket and ignores any extra stuff in front of the pins).
I also have a Trend that i absolutely love. Comes back from anywhere on the lane i want to throw it, gives me miss room left and right, and if i throw with more axis rotation it can shape like the Nuke on the backend or if I come up the back more it can walk in like the Axiom if I've burned a bit of a track for it. Really versatile for me. I can't always throw it first game, but it's the most fun of the 3 I have.
I know that's a lot of information that's probably irrelevant, but that's my experience with it and I hope it helps paint a picture of what it does and where it might fit.
The Redemption was pretty shiny too so 1. At board 20 both balls did exactly the same motion. and 2. i think the difference with the Aero, was due to the shots already played which started creating a path, of the core, or some minor difference on the execution. But of course that does not change the take-away of the video which is correct and shows the difference of the 2 covers.
Shinyness doesn't matter. You can polish up a solid ball for a bit more length, but it still lacks the mica in the pearl coverstock that provides the skid snap motion
@@iceman5117 The absence or not of mica, does not make shinyness irrelevant. Mica provides tha snap motion, not the skid part. The skid part is provided by shinnyness. Also, if shinyness didn't matter , then we would all have polished balls because they look cooler :P Also if i polish a solid ball, it can easily shoot past the breakpoint, so no one can say that surface grit doesn't matter. It's physics. If you take a pearl and bring it down to 1500 (or less), you will not see much (or any) skid/snap even though it has mica.
@@bowlingxp8345 You can't have snap without skid. The mica in a pearl coverstock creates a different surface texture and pore size from solid resin that prevents that ball for hooking up until the dry tail end of the lane. You can polish or sand all you want, you'll never get the front back motion of a solid with a pearl coverstock
@@iceman5117 I never said "you can have snap without skid" , that would be silly. Also i never said we can get 100% the exact motion of a solid with a pearl. (even though a chemical engineer you might be aware of, Roland Hickland who worked for Ebonite, seems to disagree with your statement...). I only said the surface grit matters, and it matters a lot, regardless of cover type. And if your statement is 100% correct, then how do you explain that even in this video, when both balls crossed 20 at the arrows, had the same breakpoint, and the same ball motion (AND result) ? I think you can get quite close to a similar ball motion with 2 balls with same core, same basic cover formula, and one being the pearl version and the other one bring the solid. In fact i had 2 balls like these, and the closer their grit was , the closer their ball motion was. Back then i wasn't into details like that so i never paid too much attention to them. Unfortunately i didn't get the chance to test it properly as one cracked and i gave away the other one.
I would like for you to do this comparison on fresh oil
I would like to see two exact same balls drilled exactly alike, 1 pearl and 1 solid and see the difference.
Would that happen on wood lanes as well????
What about changing the surface on a pearl?
Hi
Is the redemption Solid polished?
I like your videos very Well, because you not only shot striktes
Alex
yes it looks very shiny, that's why at 20 it had the same reaction with the pearl.
All the books numbers whatever also tell you what the Recommended lane condition for any given ball is the Redemption Solid is a good ball of the balls I own it is my current favorite ball.
However it is a ball designed for heavy and longer oil patterns. Flor probably 95 percent of the bowlers that use the Redemption solid it is not going to be the right ball on a beat up house shot. If won't even be the right choice on a lot of standard fresh house shots.
On the other hand 95 percent of the bowlers that use it on a fresh heavy volume sport shot will love the punch it provides.
All that being said the bowlers personal style is also a huge factor.
I love the Redemption solid at least on a fresh house shot with a high oil volume. It fits my personal bowling style well. But it needs oil, and it doesn't fit all bowling styles.
Yes Bill O'Neal won a major with it made look good on the Wayne Webb pattern. That was part of the reason I bought it. But the pros can make any ball look good.
Anyway Redemption Solid is a good ball for a lot of bowlers but not for every bowler. Happy bowling you all🎳
So... i have the new trend, i played 50 games maybe and it is a little weak now... what happened?? And what exactly have to do??
Polished?? (5000 grit aprox)
Or
3000-2000-1000 grit abralon and no polished??
I’m birthday is coming up and I intend on getting a new bowling ball. I currently have an old hammer taboo a pitch black and a spare ball I need something aggressive but that I can get down lane with a medium to high rev rate and about 14 mph my hammer taboo was drilled aggressively so I can get it down lane on a house shot so I have to wait for fresh oil conditions.
blood red melee jab
Storm trend
I'll second the Trend. That ball is incredibly versatile. It's not usually my first ball out (could be if i put some surface on it), but it's my favorite to throw by far
@@chrisstrong3748 great that’s actually what I was thinking of, but I’m still new to bowling and only bowl in leagues and hope to start doing tournaments soon. I’ve been bowling for like 5 months and my average right now is 185
I find a lot of my balls no matter the cover or lay out react a lot the same . If I go left they never come back ! I have an old ransom demand , a c300 chaos , Black widow pink and a track fusion. Non come back if I go far left
Do you ever resurface them? If not they are probably all lane shined and are all about 4700 grit.
You can change hand positions and speed. I can make any ball go hook from getting deep left if I want. You don’t need to go far left unless the lanes ask for that. Maybe if they’re dry it’s obviously a lot easier. So if ur trying to go far left on fresh it won’t work all the time. Not saying you have to go left on the burn all the time
Great video. Anyone know what’s best for straight bowlers? I’m new to this.
Pearl ist better for straight Bowlers.
@@michaeladler2604 thanks for reply brother 🙏🏻
If Pearl bowling balls are good to use when you need more snap on the back end then what would a solid reactive asymmetrical ball be best used for? Is it safe to assume I should ball down to a asymmetrical solid reactive if my pearl bowling ball is snapping too hard down lane? I've always thought it was exactly the other way around in regards to pearl vs solid reactive bowling balls.
Pearl is for when you need the ball to reach down lane farther. Solids usually deal with heavier oil
You would use asymetrical(or old ball) like IQSolid IF played enough to "smoothen" the fresh pattern. As you go along, oil carries down, you Will be able to transition to more agresive balls.
My whole bowling life is a lie. Lol
So, if it I’m using a solid going straight down and in and the lanes break down and it starts hooking to much, I either (1) Go Pearl and move further inside or (2) Go weaker solid staying outside. Correct?
Just thinking about getting back into the game. I had a hammer taboo jet black. Unfortunately it cracked. What kind of coverstock would that jet black have had? The website calls it a GTR III.
Any information you have is appreciated.
Get a Hammer Redemption Hybrid, my average has went from a 185 to a 207 in 8 weeks using it, I can use it all 3 games in league bowling on a 42 foot Stone Street oil pattern... Bowled a 684 tonight with 24 strikes and 5 opens, now I just need to find a spare ball lol
That ball is nearly a decade old already, and believe it or not the covers have changed a lot since then. Highly recommend the hammer pink widow. Same great core as taboo, but little more teeth in the cover. Spec numbers are nearly identical
I thought about getting a pink widow, but it seems most are already sold out of it. If I find one I'll probably grab it up if the price isn't ridiculous.
@@bworm7152 yeah guess I’m not sure if it’s still in current catalogs. Otherwise talk to local pro shop operator to see about their distributors inventory. Company that my center buys from (Bobs Business, Red Wing MN) currently has a TON of recently discontinued rocks for discounted prices. High end stuff for less than 150 drilled
Great vid,im just still so lost,i just dont understand all the lingo yet
Lol shiny vs dull 👍🏾
Comes down to polish vs no polish... I've sanded down a pearl ball to make it more versatile for how I bowl
What do you make of solids with low vs. high grit sand? Polishing/compounding over top? I'm comparing, in my head of course, a 500 grit +compound ball with a 2000grit and no extras, thoughts?
First and love your content
I have a Ball solid is the Orange
I would like a lesson how much
Dang it, JR; you're giving away all the secrets.
HELP! I sometimes really struggle to figure out if a ball is burning up vs being too weak? I mostly throw solids with surface to get the ball to hook to the pocket. Is there a way to tell besides just throwing a weaker ball and seeing what happens?
If a ball doesn't move to pocket enough, make a parallel move left (both feet and target). If it hooks ok, then it was burning up before. If it still doesn't hook or hooks even less, the cover is too weak.
@@bowlingxp8345 thanks for the tip!
So question is should I use my pearl storm axiom when its dry cause it is hard to keep it on the lane
If even our pearl ball is very hard to keep on the lane, then you need a weaker pearl, or a urethane, or more speed, or less axis rotation. Or a solid ball that hooks then goes straight.
Get a weaker pearl ball like a rhino. Always remember to take care of the surface of the ball as well.
this video has the potential to be horribly misleading. Looking at coverstock designator as a hard fast identifier of what motion you're gonna see is a baaad idea. Here are a hand full of examples of pearl bowling balls that have smooth, controlled moves at the break point: Idol Pearl, Marvel Pearl, Omega Crux, Cold Blood, original motiv Jackal. As far as solids that are very dynamic off of friction...I can't think of many off hand but the one that comes to mind is the Rubicon.
Shopping blindly based on cover designator is a HORRIBLE idea. If someone wants something super clean and angular and decides to buy an omega crux or idol pearl, they're gonna be disappointed. You need to take in the big picture and MOST IMPORTANTLY use your eyes....watching the ball go down the lane is the best way to see what the ball is going to do. If someone thinks "I want a pearl ball because of the fast friction response" then watches an hours worth of omega crux videos, they'll realize that it's not the ball for them.
I see it more as learning the rule/norm before exceptions.
It's how we learn a lot of stuff, just like English languages crazy rules.
Mo Pinel would probably like to have a word with you.
Agreed
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would advise any serious bowler to get a ball spinner.
Or I could just get me a decent no gimmick bowling ball and get good with it, saving me tons of $$$
So I need to buy a pearl, a solid, and a urethane. Got it! {:-)
Just don't use a hybrid because its a confused ball it doesn't know what it is...
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