As someone who LOVES to downtune one of my best examples of why it's not necessary in metal is Dimmu Borgir's Hybrid Stigmata. It really is the perfect example of how overall composition is far more important than levels of distortion or how downtuned you are to create HEAVY tracks.
I realize they aren't the hardest or the heaviest, and they're certainly not dropped all the way down to Lemk like many Titans of today. Titans that frequently sooth our ears via 'JoJo Plays'(and quite exquisitely too, if I may be so bold)..However, DEICIDE and their self-titled album for me, will always remain Principal. For they were my first...I surrendered my Black Death virginity all the way back in 90' upon the bronze alter, when I was mearly a freshman in high school. "And the Sun shall always shine bright upon thee." Nice work, my brother.
Interesting! I'd say if you play "conventional", Drop E or F is the limit regarding the audio experience. But if you manage not to play to often on the open lowest string or write riffs like HLB, that perfectly fits to the ultra low tuning, why not?
I believe you use whammy digitech pedal for testing all these low tunings i remember i used double B standard 7string tuning and sounded like doom eternal soundtrack
I still maintain djent is just fkn dubstep, but with 90% less rhythm. And at least dubstep had the common decency to fk off and die after a couple of years
@@asvegas777 Lol i know mate, same with any genre, I'm just being facetious. If you spend any time near thirtysomething cokeheads, dubstep is fkn eternal. In mainstream terms though, it was a total flash in the pan. Like, in 2009-10, dubstep could be heard on fkn insurance adverts n sht. I'm just looking vaguely forward to the day when I can click on a random video with "metal" in the title, and not turn it off after 15 seconds out of sheer boredom. Like, click on a random video with "EDM" in the title and you could potentially hear anything from oldschool acid house to contemporary synthwave beardo stuff, y'know?
@@ghouliethousandtrouser2905 haha I do know I lived in London just before and around that and remember the boom. What remained has become some good bass head shit though I dig… idk much about genre talk I spend more time listening than talking 😁🤘
What are YOUR favorite super low tuned Metal songs?
Architects - Gravedigger (weird F# tuning)
In Flames - Transparent (drop G)
@@IrlylikeInFlamesGravedigger is a good one. The tuning is F#F#BEG#C#. So basically C# standard and swap the low C# for an F#
Every vildhjarta song
Before I Turn - Masquerade (Double Drop C)
ten56. - boy
they use 7 string Drop A, but pitching down to Double Drop D, fucking filthy
I am so glad Humanity's Last Breath got recognized I absolutely love the guitar pinches/harmonics in the Tide breakdown.
HLB must be included. They probably go the lowest out of anyone else.
@@jojoplaysmusicAdmiral Angry tuned to A0 in 2009 (and G#0 for the song The Illusion of Strength)
the guitar: 😇
the tunning: 😈
You have the most accurate and relatable guitar faces
I know right
Had no idea Vildhjarta used 6 string guitars. I assumed they used 7 string guitars when I learned they used drop F. Now they're in double drop C# 🤯
Yep, they use 30” scale length baritone guitars tuned to ECFA#D#G. Anything lower than that is pitch-shifted.
@@jojoplaysmusic how many times do you re-tune (and intonate/set-up) your guitar for this kind of video? did you use pitch-shifting as well?
@@jojoplaysmusicactually they use 28” on their EIRs
On Masstaden and Thousands of Evils they used 7 string guitars but since Under Vatten they've been using 6 string baritones
@@rotemeliaz no they used the sevens for muv their new stuff is on the 6s
In 10 years, metal guitar will be so low tuned that bassists will tune higher (or just not exist anymore).
A full circle moment
the bassist in meshuggah tunes up to F, the same octave of the guitars
one can hope
Mahahahaha, thats hilarious:-)))
Bass guitar, where it still exists, will be renamed to "clean 4 string guitar'''
Love the inclusion of Silent Planet
Edit: also bravo on the Thall performances
surprised Mortician wasn't on here, as far as I know all of their songs were on a 6 string tuned to like G standard
What's even more impressive is that they tune to g on a 4 string bass
@@AlfieForrester yeah lmao, how will's hands aren't just pure leather now is beyond me
seeing you play the Vildhjarta and HLB riffs made me grow triple the amount of braincells i had
As someone who LOVES to downtune one of my best examples of why it's not necessary in metal is Dimmu Borgir's Hybrid Stigmata. It really is the perfect example of how overall composition is far more important than levels of distortion or how downtuned you are to create HEAVY tracks.
YES! I listened to that again today. The album is a literal prescription to any metal fan, casual to professional
Been watching you for awhile and just realized i wasn't subbed 😢 im subbed now! ❤
Lol I appreciate that
waiting for more Loathe content since you've got a baritone guitar now 👀
Eres un chingón hermano! Tqm
Double Drop A# is close to 10 string tuning lol (I think it's G# or G)
Nice guitar bro
Thanks! It’s very nice
Holy sh*it that's low
Can we go lower tho? 🤔
@@jojoplaysmusic try with metal pipes as strings
Exquisite, Jojo🤌🏼🤌🏼
Thank you! Peep that baritone 👀
Sick baritone guitar tho… was guessing it had to be one going down that low haha
Wow....
These Low Tunings Are Absolutely MINDBLOWING! 😮🤯
But Really, I Can't Understand The Key Tuning Order In Some Tunings... 😶😶😶
The guitars are so fucking low that I now I can easily differentiate between the guitar and the bass. 💀
true hard mode is tuning this low on a non-baritone 6 string
Fr tho
“Double drop D” is DADGBD.
Actually that’s Drop DD
Mortician's Chainsaw Dismemberment is in drop G
I realize they aren't the hardest or the heaviest, and they're certainly not dropped all the way down to Lemk like many Titans of today. Titans that frequently sooth our ears via 'JoJo Plays'(and quite exquisitely too, if I may be so bold)..However, DEICIDE and their self-titled album for me, will always remain Principal. For they were my first...I surrendered my Black Death virginity all the way back in 90' upon the bronze alter, when I was mearly a freshman in high school. "And the Sun shall always shine bright upon thee."
Nice work, my brother.
You are correct - essential and classic
Whatever tuning Admiral Angry used in their songs
Interesting! I'd say if you play "conventional", Drop E or F is the limit regarding the audio experience. But if you manage not to play to often on the open lowest string or write riffs like HLB, that perfectly fits to the ultra low tuning, why not?
Amazing. Can you share the II II II II preset for the Vildhjarta one?
There’s a link in the description for it
@@jojoplaysmusic There are only two presets there, neither of which sounds like the Vildhjarta one..
to absolutely no-ones surprise, Buster and the Gang win
Idk man I’m pretty happy with C# standard 🤣 or Eb standard.
Drop Z#
me think gurrturr goes brrr
It does
THIQUE 👀👅👀🎸
Ou classy I see
No songs in low B?
I’m a simple man. I see loathe in a video thumbnail. I click on the video.
🎸⬇💪 chunky tones🤘🔥
I was looking at this baritone a while back. How do you like it??
I loved it. It’s a shame I had to send it back (it was loaned to me).
@@jojoplaysmusic would you saw the neck and frets were deathcore quality or was it more of a classic feel in the hands?
…so does downtuning your five-string to outdo the guitarists enable the low-end arms race or bring it to a détente?
It enables it
did you tune the guitars or did you just pitch shift it? what tuner do you use?
I tuned physically down to double drop D, and then pitch shifted anything lower. I just used ableton’s stock tuner for that.
I believe you use whammy digitech pedal for testing all these low tunings i remember i used double B standard 7string tuning and sounded like doom eternal soundtrack
The lowest I physically tuned this guitar was to double drop D, everything lower was pitch-shifted.
tuning: spaghetti strings
Yes
Before watching I was gonna guess Cannibal corpse, hypocrisy, pantera, type o
After watching I wasn’t even close 🤣
T H A L L
Bro u look like Jared Dines in ur thumbnail😂😂
May God bless you who stopped at this comment and your whole family, may you prosper in all areas
Being the 666th viewer on this vid is a bliss
Spiritbox F#0
i know no songs here
What about highest tuned metal songs?
Ok, I’m game.
I couldn’t hear a single note after Drop E. This was all just terrible. lol
I still maintain djent is just fkn dubstep, but with 90% less rhythm. And at least dubstep had the common decency to fk off and die after a couple of years
Ermm… not dead. They said that about metal too…
@@asvegas777 Lol i know mate, same with any genre, I'm just being facetious. If you spend any time near thirtysomething cokeheads, dubstep is fkn eternal. In mainstream terms though, it was a total flash in the pan. Like, in 2009-10, dubstep could be heard on fkn insurance adverts n sht. I'm just looking vaguely forward to the day when I can click on a random video with "metal" in the title, and not turn it off after 15 seconds out of sheer boredom. Like, click on a random video with "EDM" in the title and you could potentially hear anything from oldschool acid house to contemporary synthwave beardo stuff, y'know?
@@ghouliethousandtrouser2905 haha I do know I lived in London just before and around that and remember the boom. What remained has become some good bass head shit though I dig… idk much about genre talk I spend more time listening than talking 😁🤘
these bands gotta be the most boring bands i've ever heard
k
Loathe, Vildhjarta and HLB will always be on the top of abusing baritones🫶