How Counter Strike Became Unkillable
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2023
- CS:GO recently hit 1.8 million concurrent players. That’s the highest player-base Counter Strike has ever seen and it came out in 2012. But it’s no accident that Counter Strike is thriving. Valve knew exactly what they were doing, and it all started with Half Life.
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no
no
nah
nah 2 different games
both can exist and be ridiculously successful
"Every economists should study CS:GO"
The economist Valve brought in to set up the economy in Steam Marketplace then became Greece's Finance Minister back when that country hit crazy economic crisis a while back.
The man going places.
my country is in a crazy economic crisis everyday bro wdym a while back
They still haven't figured out the in-game economy though.
Yanis Varoufakis.
He also made 1st set of hats in TF2 to no longer be dropped nor crafted.
Its incredible that a 12 person team can build a game so perfect, it outlasts massive triple a titles.
lol
the game is easy to play but stupidly hard to master. if you want to enjoy the game you need to waste more time playing than having fun in it.
Well, it's a multiplayer game. Single-player Triple-A games are like, you play two or three playthroughs and that is it.
Cheating is off the hook. So the game isn't that perfect.
@@MrCatTheIII disagree. You can have fun while learning the mechanics.
20+ year long player here. You did a great job of covering so much of CS's rich history. The skins market place section was particularly interesting, I had never thought about how player driven the skin economy truly is. It's been such a wild ride from since buying that Half-Life Platinum pack from Walmart back in 1999, who would have guessed?
when someone claims to be a veteran cs player in chat i always insist them to link their accs there
There is no doubt the skins market eventually evolved into an economy which kept csgo alive. The development of skins eco system attracted new players which fuel more interests into skins which bring in more 'investment' into the skins economy. I would say the economy noticeably started to peak during covid and the amount of skins loaned by the Pros during major were astonishing. There is a bigger part of skins tiering value such as rare gems and sticker crafts are not mentioned in the video. 😅
First cs what i play was cs 1.5 or actually half life but then 1.5 😅 but i quit little after source came out and now back 😅👍
@@imGhost_2612i only remember my email, bc i give my account to my little brother a long time ago, but I'm not claiming be "veteran" i still suck 😂
The skin market is crazy. If I didn’t sell/gamble my 3k something inventory back then I would’ve been able to legit have around 15k
I don't play since the 1.6 days, but I still closely follow the competitive scene, there really is something magical about CS that is very entertaining to watch even if you don't know how to do those crazy smokes across the sky.
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Really since 1.6? That a long time not playing csgo
that guy opening the first knife is swearing in Finnish 😅
No shit sherlock, we can tell
Ik im finnish too!
Counter Strike still being alive can be explained by it's simple concept: no hard controls, easy to understand mechanics, additionally by it's loads of custom content, great mods (including sourceplugins). enjoyable singleplayer and multiplayer experience, you can play it on low spec PC's as well (excluding CS2).
And a high skill ceiling with every player being the same (no classes or perks)
And there's no P2W bs to let you win a game, it's just pure skill and knowledge
You can still play cs2 on low specs pc. Just 2022 low specs, like csgo did on 2012 low specs pc.
Well said!
cs2 is viable for low specs. I give my old pc to my cousin which got gtx 1060, amd fx 8320 and ddr3 800mhz ram and it run in very high at 80+ fps in ranked games
CS 1.6 / CS Source will be for probably forever my favorite games. No microtransations. No "paid skins" - weapons mods, modding in general. Still active and great.
Source will always be king to me.
funny how a good chunk of the video dedicated to talking about CSGO is just about the economy. thats the "fun" I guess.
you are acting like csgo/cs2 is pay to win. its crigne stop it
Private servers says otherwise they have paid skins
Been playing CS since Source and got really invested in CSGO around 2014 and its been an amazing time seeing the community grow over the last 8 years
This video gave me great flashbacks to high school where we all played CS 1.6 and played CONSTANTLY, anyone I talked to who owned a PC had it. Such a cool time. Great informative video!
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I just casually started crying. Just because I started off with CS 1.6 back in 2008 and my brothers played it since 2003. It's just incredibble how much of a story is behind that amazing game.
You really started crying? Get a grip
I started with condition zero and would often go back and play 1.6 but only played source a few times and have never played CSGO. I don’t understand why the community hates CZ, That game was a blast
@@TheGreasyGamer CZ is a good game for sure I just enjoyed CS 1.6 little bit more just because of modding community
He has an anime pfp so that says a lot about him. @@NKDuisburg02
shut up zoomer
"Valve knows what they are doing"
Every veteran cs player : flash back to r8 revolver release
Augpocalypse
Krieg meta
The year of the CZ75
The feeling of tapping head in this game is so satisfactory .
PC modding scene is so importent and impressive. Without it, there would be no genre Battle Royale, MOBA, Zombie Survival, Tower Defence and so on.
Yeah, we need the next big modded genre to start. The question is what's it gonna be a mod for?
The most accurate representation of legacy CS. Other channels couldn't cover it correctly, but you brought back some nostalgia. I still remember registering my wonid/cd key when Steam first released to get a Steam ID. Only a few remember that Steam 1.6 was trash on day one, just like every other CS release. Thanks for reminding me of how old I am.
I remember having a match scheduled that night. The steam launch was a disaster, but look at it now!
Lol. We had an old animated gif of the steam powered locamotive icon ramming it in the behind of a mannequin stick figure. There was some stupid ticket issue with steam back then too.
Remember when Valve bought CS and then put out Half-Life: Counter-Strike as a CD for purchase? I remember buying it just to support the mod and being shocked when they deleted several of the maps which were there if you downloaded the mod version. I cant remember what all maps were missing but I know cs_thunder, and I think as_tundra were some of them. Its kinda like what they did recently with Global Offensive when they launched CS2. I like valve as far as making the engine and graphics, but cutting content out is really irritating.
I didn't have internet at home back then, but I remember vividly CS1.6 being out, and everyone at the cybercafé/lan center refusing to play CS1.6 (because it was "shit", riddled with bugs, it was "easier", lmao) :D
We really didn't care much (some didn't even knew) about anything other than playing 1.5 a lot casually ... and on the rare occasions the lan center manager would spin up a DM server for our group to play on.
You know it's a good game when you keep finding yourself coming back to it. The video gave me goosebumps and nostalgia hits throughout! Thanks for the video !
A really well made video ❤
I have been playing CS bit by bit since 1.6. Played Source a little, CZ too. But what got me hooked into the game was CSGO.
Now just waiting for Valve to refine CS2 to again be hooked into the CS world.
I grew up with CS 1.6 and source...I still remember back I was a kid after I finished school me and my friends always wait on LAN cafes to open and play 10man 5v5 CS Source till sunsets....and there is one day my dad found out what I always do after school and he didn't like it...soo when I get home I got tied up to a tree in the small jungle beside my old house for like 5 hours....but after that the cashier told my dad that I just playing Shooter games with my friends and he started to letting me go because he thought at the beginning that I goin there to play Online Gambling xDD.....honestly I miss those days...btw when you say "Subscribe" I saw the sub button shining thats cool
This is a great video, I've been playing CS since the very start, 1.6 will always be my favourite because of the atmosphere in LANs which was always amazing fun. We'd go in during lunch at school or after it finished and on weekends go in for 3 hours which could easily turn into 6 or 9hrs sessions, that felt like modern tournaments or parties especially when there was an awesome pizzeria around the corner, then towards the end of the evening we might have a few drinks (cause the staff were sound and wouldn't say anything, most played the game too) we'd head out on the piss after, but GO is a great game and hopefully 2 will be too. Now I just wish more would be done with Classic Offensive.
I really appreciated you talking about the economy of the game. Something else to note is that valve also implemented an extremely similar economy into Team Fortress 2, however there was one major difference. In Team Fortress 2, the currency wasn't items themselves, rather it was "scrap metal" that you could craft by destroying 2 identical common weapons. This meant that from the start of the TF2 economy, it was doomed for hyperinflation.
There is and will continue to be an infinite amount of common weapons to be destroyed for currency. 10 years ago, one 2.50 Team Fortress key was about 8.66 refined metal. Nowadays a key is like 65 refined metal. Some people had careers off trading in TF2 back then. Now, you'd be hard pressed to make 20 dollar profit over 4 weeks unless you only trade high-end items.
Thankfully valve realized this mistake and didn't introduce any sort of currency item, and the skins themselves are the currency. And even if you need something with a steady value that can be easily sold, you can buy or trade in keys.
Hey thanks for the shoutout!
Awesome video as always. We'll see if Tanks, But No Tanks can also hit 1.8M concurrent players 😂
It's wild to see the in-depth economy and market ecosystem that was birthed from the CS franchise.
This highlights a key point of counterstrikes current state. Changes will come, some will stick, some will not. Ultimately, Valve listens and people need to give it time. Make your feedback and understand it takes time to polish, they cant just release critical fixes in a short amount of time.
CS2 will soon be that polished gem to join CS1.6 and CSGO, we just need to wait.
Fantastic video, you put so much of the history in this video. Well done :-) you clearly nailed it.
Now I get why valve deleted CS:GO
They probably didn't want another split, also they knew every new CS game caused controversies
Oh, and great video btw!
Great content and pretty accurate information. A few cents to highlight: there is a cap to listing price on steam market hence high tier items generally doesn't exchange via steam market however the base revenue are generated via selling keys to unbox. You can research the monthly case unboxing value to estimate the base revenue. Other revenue generators are operations and major sticker capsules.
At the time of your video, valve has not included workshop, community mod and servers for other parts of the community, other game modes like dangerzone are not in CS2 too. These features (including the eventual development of the skins economy) are the backbone of CS, a game that's created by the community, for the community.
Oh the memories. 747 map. Mansion. The original assault. De dust 1. Cs_siege
My first memory of counter strike was in 2001/2002… my friend called me on a landline and we did a three way call with his older cousin and we played on a pump shotgun server in cs 1.6. I’ve been hooked ever since. I met a group of people in 2006 through cs 1.6 and we all still play games together these days, I love them very much.
I'll never forget my buddies came down from 5 floors up in the dorms in 1999 to show me this mod for Half Life which was at version 0.6. I installed it and we played for hours and hours. I credit it for helping me flunk out of college. The guns stayed on the ground between rounds. Economy wasn't a thing because after a couple rounds you just picked up what you needed. I wish there was a way to give out 20 and 25 year coins.
Your video makes it sound so easy to explain why im in love with CS. I always find it hard to explain to my friends why i love this game, and now i have this video for that ❤
Don't see why it would die ever even without updates. The game is based upon a formula that appeals directly to human nature in multiple ways and is at the same time accessible to 99% of people. A combination of gameplay, gambling and competitiveness can never die as all 3 of these things appeal to our nature.
Valve could stop updating CS for years and it would still thrive, just look at TF2 at no. 16 on most played, yet it never gets an update and is 16 years old.
Everyone can’t run cs2 tho lmao
I almost quit because it kept crashing my PC
Depending on current releases and time of day, TF2 still gets up to top 5. It's Top 7 most played as of me typing this.
I wasn't even born during the early stages of counterstrike, this is insane.
Was house shopping, seeing different houses out for sale, only thing I remember good is a house bookshelf, filled with books and one copy of counter strike lol.
Wonderful video!! Thanks for uploading.
Love your video, good explanation, clear speach and great edit
It's crazy to think I played this game in 99 in 6th grade! Those were the days
Oh yeah and lan parties. Playing at low ping was so cool back then
I played counterstrike 1.6 back in the day at arcades and other places, then a bit during source at my friend house who was obsessed with skins back in the day, downloading skins that only he can see. Then couple years back i built my own pc and first game i downloaded was counter strike. God bless two employees who just wanted to pad their resume!
Playing cs since 1.4. Instantly saved up for a pc and begged my parents to get off dial up internet. Dod was also a blast for all the same reasons. Source pushed me away but even so i keep coming back even with cs2 and the issues that came with it.
This was my very 1st ever fps game after playing pinball on our family pc . My brother was the one who invited me to play his at our local computer cafe and the reason why i became more addicted to video game 😂
You forgot to mention that players who don't want to spend money on keys and the gambling can just sell the crate drops instead and use that money to buy skins (or other steam games). So even those players end up engaging in the marketplace too.
Been playing since CS 1.3 in high school. Those were the days. 😢
Valve is killing it right now, they clearly don't prioritise this game
TBH I love CSCZ, it gave players to play single player missions with bots (the only ones that were truly skilled and knowledgeable too) on the mostly played maps then and also allowed us to enjoy a spinoff story-mode gameplay in Deleted scenes. For those who complained about CSCZ splitting the fan base just because many wanted to stick with the competitive mode were being extremely selfish and self-entitled. WE could still play CSCZ on multiplayer mode. These players thought/think that they are the only ones who should play this game and the Devs should listen only to them and make changes only when they cry about it. Same thing happened in CSGO and is happening in CS2. Valve only makes changes when famous streamers and pros cry about a change even if the change only affected their own insecurity or inability to adapt. Most pros don't like changes that makes them work on adapting. They have this mentality that the game only belongs to them and others are irrelevant as if they are the ones who only paid for the game.
Point is if you don't like a game mode/game just focus on the mode you like instead of complaining.
Ever since I was a kid, counter strike has just been one game that you can just launch up and casually play anytime.
Every time I do a fresh install of windows, a version of counter strike has always stayed every time even if I didn't play it daily.
Just works like magic.
Man. I remember playing a custom map back in CS Source. And AWPing someone on double doors near CT Spawn, to the point they screamed at the top of their lungs in mic.
Such good memories.
Few people know that CS 1.5 had a mod named " Riccochette" and it was awesome
Can you also do a video on Skyrim? I know it may not be an indie game, but when I read the part "this game should be dead by now", its one of the games that comes into my mind. But the dedication of the modding community kept it alive for more than 10 years as well. Nice vid as always!
Everybody know CS is top 3 one of best games made in history
Just a side note, Team Fortress didn't start from a Half-Life mod, it was a mod from Quake, then Valve hired the 3 devs behind the mod then they started making a Half-Life version of Team Fortress.
Omg, im so happy that i did get to experience the the start of all those cs mods and 1.6 in my childhood! Awesome Video, teleports me back to early 2000!
valve knows how to make a timeless game
Great video! Hope CS lasts 20 more years. CS2 dev goals at the moment seems to be at odds with what the community wants but I hope they listen. CS is what it is because of the community.
I'll do you one better, I hope CS lasts 200 more years. I want it to never die and continue as a traditional esport, the first one to be considered a real sport at that. Even if Valve is no more in the future, possibly there'd be some other continuation of CS
lol a sport? never man, its not even close to being a real sport, you imagine some fat ass people playing this game and claiming to be top sporters? lmfao@@kurushimee
Valve is a smart company and they know better than their customers what they want, nobody wanted a skin market before Valve released it, nobody wanted a game that plays like CS before it released. They are pionniers on many aspect and most importantly they always want to include a window for opening sources. They are ahead of you man.
Well they actually listen to the community but doesn't announce it.
The most amazing thing is that this game didn't even start as a GAME but was just a half life MOD
And now the game is almost 25 years old and it is still popular (despite several new "killers" of it) and collects huge views and people of viewers
I remember me and my mate were in lan cafe and we were known to be the great sniper duo in the small town. Needless to say other people from towns came to watch and challenge us. It was crazy.
atleast you guys get update. tf2 is a game with so much more depth and still has areas it could capitalize on unexplored. but you know. we didn't fit into their ideal 'simple game to develop and good economy to cash off.' the quality of community skins is horrible because they never properly gave us tools to make skins like in csgo. they tried to make it a very competitive E-Sport game in 2016 with meet your match in a game that doesn't fit that linear soulless competitive niche people have. we can't do anything about bots. and of course the quality of items and maps and weapon balences and updates has been bad. TF2 more then ever shows its age. so hardcore counter-strike fans. BE GLAD THEY EVEN CARE ABOUT YOU AND THE GAME. BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US FOR SHIT. YOU GUYS ARE THE GOLDEN CHILD.
"Valve doesn't set the prices of anything on the market" Well, this is not entirely true. They can influence the price of items on the community market by controlling which cases and collections are available in the drop pool. Cases can get retired, and collections are either permanently phased out (look at the original 2013/2014 collections) or only available in operations for a limited amount of time. This artificial scarcity thus dictates the prices of countless items and can lead to some strange situations.
This is nearly verbatim what he says at 11:32
1.6 custom servers was still big in 2010's in Eastern Europe. Planty of counter-strike 1.6 gaming forums, multiple communities, and not just full of dudes, but bunch of girls too (eastern european girls build different). And people didn't just played the game. They met other forum members IRL, parties and gatherings or on private occasions. New friends, new relationships, new dramas, etc.
But around late 2010's and now in 2020's it went quiet. Most servers closed, forums shut down, a lot of people even stopped playing the game. Let's say there are like only 2 forums/communities out of 10 in these days in my country. Kind of sad to see that.
I love your channel, and this was a great vid, yet the ending combined with you not mentioning that skins are having a great trouble with CS2 felt like if this was paid sponsorship. Maybe only my idea, yet something to consider.
*4:26** - CSGO 1.6... Wut?*
There is no CS GO anymore...
Good
"The future is now, old man" and " Don't be sad that it ended, be happy that it happened"
There is, just no official servers. It has been demoted to the 1.6/Source level
@@manhoovy193Except that CS2 is dogshit at the moment.
@@lordium1848people wäre unhappy with csgo too. It will change
Sadly enough, by now. The player-base is reduced to 700,000 from two million.
The riot shield update also features the famas and galil
so should tf2. but valve has this certain reputation for making games that stand the test of time, which i greatly appreciate 🙌
Funny you guys talking about cs is unkillable when cs is rightnow near death.
ended support after a few months, bad place bad time
Near dead CS got 1.47 million player peak today
You did a great job with this video! Thanks.
Been playing CS since 2001 and continue to until I die. I was Beta tester for source and I never converted over from 1.6...until like 2010 for surf maps but that was it.
And now history repeats itself. CS2 was really bad and bare bones after the release. After recent update that re-added arms race and tweaked gameplay, especially peakers advantage, game feels much much better and closer to csgo that was almost perfect. I believe that cs2 will set a new standard for what we consider perfection but its not fully there yet.
this aged like milk
Well said
0:55 “Team Fortress” my brother in Christ thats Open Fortress a mod for Team Fortress 2
ive played CS since 99' Im almost 41 now and its the only game I play.
In today's gaming market it's actually super easy to keep a successful franchise. You just don't shoot yourself in the foot. Every other company is actively trying to destroy themselves. You can win by just doing nothing.
Counter Strike is still around because it’s the best FPS game on the market and you can argue it’s one of the best FPS games of all time or most competitive. Certain feelings and overall gameplay in this game just can’t be matched in other games and l haven’t even brought up the countless game modes and communities that live within CSGO and other Counter Strikes like KZ, Surf, Bhop, etc. It’s been my favourite FPS/Tactical FPS game since I first started playing. Growing up in NA, it’s very console majority here so grew up on the PS2 and XBOX which I loved but it doesn’t compare to CS. It also has a thriving and massive esports scene.
Bruh if you thinks cs IS the BEST shooter you are so biased, a Game with old ass mechanics, 20 year old mechanics cant be the BEST FPS
@@agr2190 please enlighten a game that’s better or a game that is remotely close.
@@larry2281 literaly every FPS Game has improved on something, on cs you can even ads or run wtffff Game with year 2000 mechichs IS not a good Game
@@larry2281 i can name you tarkov IS far better shooter than csgo, even call of duty IS better cmon
@@larry2281 you CS go players live in a Bubble where shooters didnt improve in the last 20 years, but hey at least you have volumetric smokes grenades 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I started with first beta versions of CS, I believe it was 0.1b-0.7b Counter Strike, cannot remember exactly. And that feeling when I hit friend in LAN mode with headshot from desert eagle, I knew the game is special. What a gameplay...Not sure if that feeling is the same in CS2, haven't played in a long time. Original CS also had amazing sounds (and 3D EAX technology), played on good 5.1 speaker setup (Logitech Z-5500). That deep subwoofer sound when you shoot m4 with silencer or desert eagle, it moves whole room, so satisfying. Also you could here steps and locate enemy precisely.
Thanks for the great vid :) In your marketplace section, I think Valve doing "nothing" is a bit of a stretch, but I understand what you're saying.
Who remembers playing CS 1.6 in internet cafes with your buddies back in the early 2000s? Lol btw CS 1.6 is still the best one. CS GO or Sourse are just💩
We would set sv_gravity to zero and buy snipers. Such fun times
I have a very distant memory of my elder brother going to the nearby internet cafe to play CS Source lmao
1.3 and 1.5 were better
@@rafsccpfuck it. 0.9 was best
Boohoo grow a spine boomer
still cs 1.6 servers are full
Really awesome video! Keep it up!
im an old man now, first played cs back in 1998 and put thousands and thousands of hours into the game. i hate dlc and skins but a part of me is jealous, i am sure i would have earned a lot of dollars as a teen playing. i thousands of hours logged pre stream on xfire and after steam. i only played 80 hours of CSGO and it was okay, im just too slow to play a game like this now haha i did earn a rare mac 10 skin which is worth a few hundred dollars
Black Mesa is not a Half Life mod.
It's a remake of HL in the source engine (it could be considered a Half Life 2 mod).
Team Fortress is also not a mod. It's an own game made by Valve.
Team Fortress was a quake mod.
first team fortress is a half life mod
Neither 2020's MIBR lineup are devs of the game
3:26 that bunny hopping in CS 1.3! It's why 1.3 is my favorite CS!
I bought my first ever gaming pc 2 weeks ago. Started playing csgo2 today after getting a bit familiarised with kb/mouse. Awesome game!!!!!
Cs2 trash
cs2 is dogshit
Dude, why the fuck is there a picture of the old MIBR lineup when he talks about the dev team at 2:19
Whoops! Editing fail 😂
Cs 1.6 had the most player based on this entire game years. The reason most do not know that is because 80% of the players had 1.6 cracked and not a steam account :)
this didn't age well
I stopped playing regular cs and switched to custom modes then the game that finally pulled me away was the Titanfall franchise and there still hasn't been an FPS that provides as much raw FUN per match since.
I remember my first experience of counter-strike back when it was still 1.3. Had to do it in a computer shop since I didn't have my own PC then.
Love to see the angled keyboard 3:56
CZ was exactly 1.6 but with different models.
CZ could have easily been as big as 1.6
I’ve just started playing CS2. I started with 1.3 and played up to CS source. Never played go. I remember the good old days of getting replacement gun and player models on the net. Personally, I hate in game markets and from what I’ve seen 99% of the skins look stupid. I’d rather my gun look like a gun and not a play toy covered in bright colours 😂
An issue here is that it isn't just the "players" who determine the price but rather, the people who run the gambling/external trading sites for CS Go/2 also having a gigantic (and unfortunate) influence. The video also igores the fact that gave children an easy access point for almost completely unregulated gambling...
Thats parent problem, its parent duty to know what their child is up to.
the best reason why cs series still best fps multiplayer game of all time here is why . 1. Easy to Play 2. Easy to Understand game system 3. Good balance game 4. not too realistic many game like insurgency arma pubg these are goods game but they cant macth with cs because their are too serious to play
We always used IRC, Mirc specifically to organize "scrim" matches, not forums. I'm sure some people used forums, but most were in IRC, for sure.
I think Team Fortress 2 will go through the same thing. Any other game would have been dead by now but TF2 is still going strong 16 years later and actually reached its highest concurrent player number ever not that long ago
2:20 really proud in seeing the Brazilian community being represented on the channel
Awesome video bro, keep going 👍👍👍
"CS2 is like Overwatch 2"
That line could have rustled some jimmies
at 0:54 you showed footage of the Half-Life 2 mod Black Mesa and at 0:56 you showed the Team Fortress 2 mod Open Fortress. Neither of these are Half-Life 1 mods or even on the same game engine.
I don't know if this is intentional but its a weird choice.
But that all changed when Counter-Strike 2 attacked…
Yes
11:24 that lady made the best decision of her life by saying those words.