COLL is worth is because you 1) EPLLs are very fast (0.5 - 1 seconds with parctive) 2) You might use the roux method so you can one look CMLL 3) If you do 2x2, most of the Coll and Cll cases have very similar algs
No, it's not. The EPLLs aren't much faster than most other PLLs, and when you factor in the recognition pause because you need to recognise corner permutation, it's slower compared to just doing OCLL+PLL. If you want to use Roux, just learn proper CMLL. A fair amount of the cases will have COLL algs, but many have better algs compared to the COLL equivalent. Same goes for 2x2. Proper CLL algs are FAR better than COLL and also better than CMLL. The fact that you don't have to take edges/centers into account at all is a huge difference.
Thank you man, I just finished learning oll and I didn't know if I should learn WV yet because I am really close to being sub 15. instead I should learn new f2l algs and get better at look ahead. ty
One big issue is how algsets interact with each other. For example, if you know a full ZB set, you can learn what VLS/WV alg to do for VLS/WV cases to force either a PLL or a ZB. For example the r' F R F' M' case is probably not worth it if you are good at T ZB.
u know full oll and pll and average 24 second not to say ur bad but u should probally try and fix ur mistakes check ur f2l cross ect cuz u should normally be about 15-17
4:04 actually the total number is 493,but 472 are the algs without the PLLs and btw the 472 algs include the mirror ones too.So the number of different algorithms is 236+21(PLL)
for the vls alg you can just do R' F' U' F R, but cancel into the left fat sune so that would be R' F' U' F r U' r' F2 R just something cool that i found but yeah vls isn't worth it EDIT: NVM I WAS THINKING OF A DIFFERENT VLS
Zbll part: Don't try and learn more than 5 at a time it won't stick Me: -Learned almost full zbll (no sune/antisune yet) -12 algs per day -Its currently working for me pretty nice and I remember 90% of the algs (Pi set it's tough, currently avg 9-10 with it)
Ok so I shouldn't learn COLL, but I should learn ZBLL, which includes COLL??? Also why should I go fron 2lll STRAIGHT to ZBLL without learning summer variation????
So when I'll finish learbing full oll and 77 f2l cases, I'll learn full COLL, but mainly to have them as zblls. COLLs are zblls, so when I will start learning them, I've already got 40 algs
*M E G A M I N X P L L*
M E G A M I N X Z B L L
heeeelllll naaaaagh
Oh hell naw
COLL is worth is because you
1) EPLLs are very fast (0.5 - 1 seconds with parctive)
2) You might use the roux method so you can one look CMLL
3) If you do 2x2, most of the Coll and Cll cases have very similar algs
I use cross -1 VHLS COLL EPLL
Try it
i usually just use last slot algs lol, personally i like zbls too, it helps
No, it's not. The EPLLs aren't much faster than most other PLLs, and when you factor in the recognition pause because you need to recognise corner permutation, it's slower compared to just doing OCLL+PLL.
If you want to use Roux, just learn proper CMLL. A fair amount of the cases will have COLL algs, but many have better algs compared to the COLL equivalent.
Same goes for 2x2. Proper CLL algs are FAR better than COLL and also better than CMLL. The fact that you don't have to take edges/centers into account at all is a huge difference.
@@AColdCubertry what
I recommend 1 Look Last Layer.
fr, I also recommend to learn 1 look cube, it's just 43.252.003.274.489.856.000, or maybe yeah 1LLL is worth with also 3916.
@@itsvxetoblindfolded
@@isaiahquililan8948 oh yeah but actually blindfolded is slower rather than an hypothetical 1 look cube xD
Thank you man, I just finished learning oll and I didn't know if I should learn WV yet because I am really close to being sub 15. instead I should learn new f2l algs and get better at look ahead. ty
Glad you found it useful! Don't hold back on learning WV for too long though, its a lot easier than you think!
@@ultrainstinctcubing8373 ok thank you!
Exactly in the same situation many thanks to both of you!
same
I really liked this video, it’s really precised and clear thanks for it !
One big issue is how algsets interact with each other. For example, if you know a full ZB set, you can learn what VLS/WV alg to do for VLS/WV cases to force either a PLL or a ZB. For example the r' F R F' M' case is probably not worth it if you are good at T ZB.
I average about 24 seconds every solve, and Ive been meaning to look into ways I can get to a sub 15 average. This video was very helpful. ty
u know full oll and pll and average 24 second not to say ur bad but u should probally try and fix ur mistakes check ur f2l cross ect cuz u should normally be about 15-17
@@Astrld yeah most likely just his f2l
I only know oll and pll, and i average 11 so i think you can improve way more without learning a new LL algs set
honestely, your video is pretty good, it helped me a lot. I even got surprised you have only 500 subs, i thought you had a lot more
Great video, glad I got this recommended!
I was looking for a video like this but now it came to me when i wasn't looking for it.
4:04 actually the total number is 493,but 472 are the algs without the PLLs and btw the 472 algs include the mirror ones too.So the number of different algorithms is 236+21(PLL)
for the vls alg you can just do R' F' U' F R, but cancel into the left fat sune
so that would be R' F' U' F r U' r' F2 R
just something cool that i found but yeah vls isn't worth it
EDIT: NVM I WAS THINKING OF A DIFFERENT VLS
4:13 "Oll with 4 corners oriented=ZBLL case"-Ultra instinct cubing
Hehehe
very nice explanation bro
I choose zbll.
Zbll part: Don't try and learn more than 5 at a time it won't stick
Me:
-Learned almost full zbll (no sune/antisune yet)
-12 algs per day
-Its currently working for me pretty nice and I remember 90% of the algs (Pi set it's tough, currently avg 9-10 with it)
I just started learning a few days ago and I started with U cases
@@javenzhao7935idk why, I startet with the L cases of ZBLL
Yeah, same here. I'm not quite as far, but 12 algs a day isn't actually that hard.
im cramming zbll and it's working :)
Still working?
@@DTninjablox3000 ye ive learned all of u set
Great video
Is there a way to solve the ENTIRE last layer in one alg, no matter the orientation?
This set contains about 4000 algs + aUf, you can go for it if you want but you have to be patient,
@@djridoo What’s it called?
@@scottsaldivar8599 1LLL
@@OneDerscoreOneder which stands for 1 look last layer
Yes but it’s 3915 algs
Ok so I shouldn't learn COLL, but I should learn ZBLL, which includes COLL??? Also why should I go fron 2lll STRAIGHT to ZBLL without learning summer variation????
So when I'll finish learbing full oll and 77 f2l cases, I'll learn full COLL, but mainly to have them as zblls. COLLs are zblls, so when I will start learning them, I've already got 40 algs
f2l algs lmaooooo
Not so fast. ZBLL is an extended version of COLL
@@KeyholeGod yes colls are a part of zblls
I think zbls and zbll combination is best
who said vls has 432 algs it's only 189 algs
CMLL!!!
I don't know why but I'm not even practicing CFOP Anymore, Now I'm just learning 3-Style.😂😂😂
Same and then I have to learn all the flip and parity algs
What's the difference between WV and SV? I've seen both before.
WV is built pairs, SV is split pair
How will I know I'm about to get a fish pll?
3:10 you did the wrong alg, because if you’d done backsune followed by sune it would have been a pll skip
No, that's a different case.
Thnxxxx
I can't share this video with any of my friends, cause none of them knows CFOP nor uses it.
Me learn pll frist and then I'll 💀
OLL is much easier but with slighly hard recognition.
@@itsvxetoyea learn full pll and 2-look oll, and after you improve and average like 15-20s learn full oll
VLS is not worth it. But cross skip is.
vls only has 27 algs...
that's wv not vls
How should we recognize ZBLL?
don't
Coll + 2 edges.
Pray