Can we appreciate that Apollo and Tyrol's relationship developed to the point that he was Tyrol's first option to look after his kid if something happened to him.
1:32 - "The whole ship has taken a pounding. We'd need SIX WEEKS in dry dock just to hammer out the DINGS...let alone tackle the structural damage." - Really makes one wonder how much further the Galactica could have gone. I'm sure the crew was doing their best to hold the old girl together.
Probably not too much tbh. The FLT jump made by Boomer in S4 ripped out about 20 frames which was another gut punch to her structural integrity. I reckon without the Cylon band-aid to the structural integrity, she may not have much left in her for combat conditions. :(
You can see why Ronald D Moore found it so hard to work on Star Trek Voyager after ending DS9 (He quit after 2 episodes). If they'd had committed to the idea of being alone, damaged and low on supplies like BSG did they may have been a good show
I loved how the Galactica’s damage didn’t reset each episode, or even season. I would have been fine if it got a few major repairs done over time, as materials allowed, but in general, it should still look beat to hell, as cosmetics would be the very last thing on anyone’s minds. IMO this, and the writing, we’re the two reasons this show was head and shoulders above something like Star Trek Voyager, I always felt that entire series should have been like this, with trying to get home being the over arching storyline,and damage being persistent for Voyager. They got it right in one small arch, that as I recall was called the “year in hell,” but overall it was annoying they start out by talking about how short of supplies they were, but other than a few specific episodes, it never really made much of a difference,where as Galactica, was constantly scrounging for fuel, food and other supplies, which greatly added to the realism and peril viewers felt during the series
John Patz, Well, aside from the opposition of the UPN suits in ultimately, allowing Voyager to go down that path, I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that SOME of the depredations Janeway and crew encountered, were able to be dealt with by virtue of their advanced tech, which might not be too far off in being characterized as being as so far beyond the BSG template, as it's elevated over our own.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 yes, Voyager was more advanced than many they ran across, both others were more advanced, in total or in part. But really that’s not the point, the point is, Voyager had to ration power so much that replicator use had to be extremely limited, yet after awhile, supply shortages were almost never an issue, unless it was needed for that week’s story. Not to mention, by resetting damage at the end of each episode, it eliminated one of the major problems the ship and crew faced.
@johnpatz8395 , I can't and don't refute what you're saying. The explanation I gave above, can realistically only go so far in accepting the difference between the two. Again, though, it became clear that UPN didn't want their flagship production to be dark at all, rather than being seen, in the main, as positive and uplifting. Beyond that factor, however, I just don't think it was in the ST paradigm (at least the one in effect until 2005), to tell the kind of story that Moore did with BSG, despite how DS9 appreciably moved in that direction. The fact that the CBS iterations of the franchise since 2017, appear to embrace such a philosophy, with far greater vigor, only proves to confirm that they have a connection to ST in name only, IMO. That's an entirely different discussion, though, one which I've no interest to engage in here!!!
@@Privatepain1234 yeah, I know that, but personally I’d have preferred the entire series be an arc, especially since the main story/theme fully supported that sort of series. In TNG I could understand the Enterprise being fully repaired between episodes, as they were never too far from a Star-base, but to have have the ship reset, while on in hostile territory, on the other side of the galaxy a 100 years or so away from the nearest StarFleet base seems a bit crazy. Early on the spent a lot of time talking about how everything, including power, food and materials for repairs were extremely limited, and would be hard to come by, but as time passed that was just sort of all but forgotten, unless they needed to use it as an excuse for a certain action or episode.
1:16 Lee: "I'm about to do an exposition dump so the audience knows..." Admiral: "I know the system." Athena - with her Cylon reflexes - might have been the only Raptor pilot who could've pulled the rescue off. Dodging the debris and still getting the Raptro back in position to catch Tyrol and Cally.
Im sure its a total coincidence that a certain someone was a main writer on both. I do think i agree with you though that BSG has more moral dilemmas, which as you know, is saying something.
@mangoman628 he definitely tool heavy inspiration from star trek when making this which funny considering it was originally the a star wars cash in Some of my favorites of course being the whole premise of the show being very similar to voyager which is when he stopped working on star trek duento disagreements and I think he made this show to make what he wanted voyager to be Of course you have the "this is a witch hunt and I will not have it aboard my ship" and "the first link the chain" And the whole galactica Pegasus arc seems very similar to the voyager equinox arc Those are just some ice noticed I'm sure there's more
It's not wrong you know, humans can survive about a minute in space with no suit. The most important thing is that you just dont hold your breath, you'll need to exhale before hitting the vacuum or your lungs will blow up.
Yep. 15 seconds of consciousness before the oxygen in your blood is either used or diffuses out of your lungs into the vaccum. How long you last from there just depends on how much damage you sustain from hemorrhaging and how quickly you can get to a pressurised environment before gas bubbles in your blood kill you.
People usually look to the Adama Maneuver as evidence of the Admiral's brass cajones, but this right here is easily one of the hardest decisions I've ever seen, and he made it without blinking. EDIT: Spelling.
Admiral's word is final. No time or reason for argument. All the sentimentality is putting them at risk but at the same time potentially immenant death does that to people
I love this show and found the episode dramatic and fun... but, just to knit-pick, not technically accurate. If the outer door is leaking, all that it would do is slowly decompress the interior of the launch bay. The small thumb-sized hole in the patch could have been solved by sticking almost anything over the hole and the interior pressure of the remaining atmosphere would hold it in place. Since the launch tube can be pressurized, the rate which the breathable air is escaping could be overcome by the ship re-pressurizing the bay, thus maintaining the breathable environment long enough to rescue Cally and the Chief. The dramatic-license taken with the added threat of freezing to death is a hollywood troupe. You don't actually freeze to death when exposed to space. That's a myth. Further more, I don't know why a small leak in the outer door would also induce such a dramatic loss of heat. A vacuum is a very good insulator, it prevents heat exchange, which is how your coffee thermos keeps hot things hot and cold things cold. Space is a near perfect vacuum. Cally and the Chief would slowly lose body heat over time, but the launch tube has its own heating system or else why wouldn't they be freezing the moment they entered the launch tube? At this point, the worst that can happen to them is the compartment they are in becomes fully depressurized, which would eventually cause them to lose consciousness, but not turn them into meat popsicles. Thus, the baffling choice to explosively decompress the launch tube by blowing open the outer doors. The violent and sudden loss of all atmospheric pressure would have seriously injured if not out right killed Cally and the Chief instantly. Never mind those huge armored doors being turned into projectiles that could have destroyed the rescue raptor and projected the two crewmen out into space at high velocity. Even more puzzling is they have emergency breathing equipment the entire time. So the loss of atmosphere is even less of a threat. Instead of triggering an explosive decompression event, they could have just decompressed the compartment in a controlled manner. Once a vacuum was established, opening the outer door would not result in a violent event, instead the two crewmen could be rescued by the raptor crew boarding from the outside and carrying them back to the raptor. As mentioned, freezing to death isn't a threat when exposed to outer space. Instead, the first symptom would be serious swelling of all the soft tissue as gases trapped in the body are released without the normal surface pressure keeping them suppressed. While this would be very painful and limited their mobility, it wouldn't result in permanent damage or be immediately fatal. Cally and the Chief would recover within a day or two after being treated for aerobullosis (aka, the bends). The second, more serious danger is from radiation exposure. Lots of radiation in space, but especially ultra-violet radiation from the nearby star (if there was one). This effect would be like a very serious sunburn similar to Arc Flash that arc welders can suffer while welding without protecting exposed skin. This could be mitigated by simply covering any exposed parts of the body as Cally and the Chief could manage. Plus, Galactica could have positioned itself to provide shade from any potential source of environmental radiation sufficient enough for the small amount of time they'd be exposed to it. So in the end, all they had to do was decompress the compartment in a controlled action. Cally and the Chief would have fallen unconscious and then; open the outer doors so the rescue raptor team could grab them and return to the raptor. Job Done. Episode over in the first 5 minutes leaving 45 minutes of Tricia Helfer being Tricia Helfer as filler.
Even water born ship damage control teams use wood wedges and hammers to seal leaks yet these space faring sailors only have a flimsy sticker and I guess they never bothered to include anything stronger.
If they had decompressed the compartment slowly, Cally and the Chief would have been lying there, essentially exposed to hard vacuum while they open the hatch and retrieve them, which would surely take significantly longer than a minute...? I'm guessing that's why they chose this method. To reduce the amount of vacuum exposure as much as possible.
Sometime it's the focus on details that makes this show so great and re-watchable, like for example here we see the CO and XO followed by marines, indicating that they still followed protocol and proper procedures, a stark difference from say the last season where they kind of just "did an Elsa" with the whole thing, dissolutioned by "Earth" and henceforth aimless for a time. ("an elsa", get it, eh, eeh? "let it go, let it go!" )
That was a cute girl. She had a horrible and horrifying death from that Cylon, though. The creep factor of the show escalated a LOT for me when that happened.
DragonDriver100, First, keep in mind that without Tory's intervention, Cally was moments away from inflicting that same fate on herself and her son. Second, as I believe should be pretty obvious, Tory had little option than to do what she did, however brutal its depiction may seem. Cally was manifestly unstable and wouldn't have been deterred from exposing all 4 of them. With their value as bargaining chips with the rebel Cylons, some time off, I would reckon that they would've been airlocked (even Tigh) at this juncture. Whatever ulterior motives might be attached to it, Tory did choose to save the boy's life, FWIW.
15 seconds from when the airlock opened until they were in the Raptor. They would barely be conscious IRL but those fifteen seconds would be very painful
Most likely... i mean in reality ISS recycles air, otherwise how would astronauts live there for months at the time, so probably that technology exists in BSG universe too. Also, they probably empty air lock or hangar from air before opening it.
It's reasonable to assume that Galactica can use hydrolysis and some of the other systems that real submarines and spaceships use to generate air. Oxygen Generateors aren't actually that hard.
TOS allusion: "Fire in Space," with Boomer, Athena, and Boxey trapped, with a daring spacewalk action by Apollo and Starbuck to blow the hull and extinguish the fire threatening the whole ship. Plus maybe a shade of "The Gun on Ice Planet Zero."
Life threatening loss of air is still over half an atmosphere. Survival limit is considered to be 0.4 bar. That is ~10 tonnes of pressure per square meter. Things WILL be shot out the tube
One big mistake of this scene is their masks. They should put them off and breath out just before the doors opens. It's impossible to hold air inside your lungs in a vacuum, if you'd try it's would be messy.
Main immediate problem of space aside from the obvious lack of air, is lack of pressure. The gasses within the body would expand. Temperature is second.
Why don't they have someone with patches on the outside, finding the hole, and patching it from outside? It doesn't even need to be a permanent patch, just something to hold the air in long enough for the doors to open and get them out?
most likely due to how small the hole was. You're talking a hole the size of your thumb in an exterior wall that you may not even be able to really access from the outside. Rewatching the episode, the initial patches were made by a work crew, most likely with the door open, so there was no air leak. Sensors probably didn't notice anything until the airlock was being repressurizied
@@Blackburn5360 that doesn't really add up because since Tyrol knows where the hole is he could easily be able to guide someone on the outside. Or use something as a guide like modern day use of smoke as a signal. If they could make colored smoke perfect, but even if not, rip a bit of clothing off and feed and end through. Someone one the outside would see the piece of whatever they used flapping around as the air escaped around it, and boom. They have found the hole.
Good thought, but I'm not sure that would work. A patch on the outside would be buffeted by the escaping air, as opposed to a patch on the inside, where the mass of the air presses the patch against the interior side of the wall. Much trickier to apply, and depending on the properties of the sealant used, maybe impossible to fix in place. There's a lot about the details of how the BSG world operates that isn't made explicitly clear. I think we just have to take it on faith that the plan enacted was the only one possible.
@@michaelccozens I agree it wouldn't be as easy, but considering this is a race of people that have mastered spaceflight, I am pretty sure they could figure out how to super glue a patch on long enough to get them out.
Why did they just have the raptor use their battle mounting collar thing just like they did with the colony ship battle where they mounted and cut a quick hole for entry? If they did that over the breech they could have gotten out no problem, no drama, no episode lol
Cally came THIS close to death...again! She has managed to avoid dying for so long, so why the FRAK did she have to die in the end like that?! There needs to be a rule in storytelling where if a character seems like he/she is going to die and survives at LEAST 2-3 times, the writers are not allowed to kill off that character. You've messed with our hearts enough at that point that we should be assured that character is safe!
Um... putting a mask on might not be a smart idea. AFAIK, if you're going to be exposed to vacuum, the best is to empty your lungs. Otherwise air pressure might rupture them.
Can we appreciate that Apollo and Tyrol's relationship developed to the point that he was Tyrol's first option to look after his kid if something happened to him.
Their first meeting was one to remember, that's for sure. 👍🏽
Yes, you have permission.
The CGI on this show still looks really good for and early 2000s show. The beat up look of Galactica is a nice touch she’s been through a few battles.
This was made in 2008/2009.
@@kirishima638 wrong the show went from 2003 to 2009
@@ryans413 The show ran from 2003 to 2009. THIS EPISODE is from season 4, which was produced between 2008 and 2009.
1:32 - "The whole ship has taken a pounding. We'd need SIX WEEKS in dry dock just to hammer out the DINGS...let alone tackle the structural damage." - Really makes one wonder how much further the Galactica could have gone. I'm sure the crew was doing their best to hold the old girl together.
Probably not too much tbh. The FLT jump made by Boomer in S4 ripped out about 20 frames which was another gut punch to her structural integrity. I reckon without the Cylon band-aid to the structural integrity, she may not have much left in her for combat conditions. :(
@@richardtaylor1652 Quatsch!
You can see why Ronald D Moore found it so hard to work on Star Trek Voyager after ending DS9 (He quit after 2 episodes). If they'd had committed to the idea of being alone, damaged and low on supplies like BSG did they may have been a good show
It's nothing short of a miracle that Galactica had any fight left after New Caprica. Then to go through what she did at The Colony....
@@wll1500 "At this Point she was held together by pure Middelfinger Energy" Spacedock ca. 2020
Blown out of an Airlock twice in one lifetime LOL Poor old Cally.
I got so sick of looking at her towards the end
I loved how the Galactica’s damage didn’t reset each episode, or even season. I would have been fine if it got a few major repairs done over time, as materials allowed, but in general, it should still look beat to hell, as cosmetics would be the very last thing on anyone’s minds.
IMO this, and the writing, we’re the two reasons this show was head and shoulders above something like Star Trek Voyager, I always felt that entire series should have been like this, with trying to get home being the over arching storyline,and damage being persistent for Voyager. They got it right in one small arch, that as I recall was called the “year in hell,” but overall it was annoying they start out by talking about how short of supplies they were, but other than a few specific episodes, it never really made much of a difference,where as Galactica, was constantly scrounging for fuel, food and other supplies, which greatly added to the realism and peril viewers felt during the series
John Patz, Well, aside from the opposition of the UPN suits in ultimately, allowing Voyager to go down that path, I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that SOME of the depredations Janeway and crew encountered, were able to be dealt with by virtue of their advanced tech, which might not be too far off in being characterized as being as so far beyond the BSG template, as it's elevated over our own.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 yes, Voyager was more advanced than many they ran across, both others were more advanced, in total or in part. But really that’s not the point, the point is, Voyager had to ration power so much that replicator use had to be extremely limited, yet after awhile, supply shortages were almost never an issue, unless it was needed for that week’s story. Not to mention, by resetting damage at the end of each episode, it eliminated one of the major problems the ship and crew faced.
@johnpatz8395 , I can't and don't refute what you're saying. The explanation I gave above, can realistically only go so far in accepting the difference between the two. Again, though, it became clear that UPN didn't want their flagship production to be dark at all, rather than being seen, in the main, as positive and uplifting. Beyond that factor, however, I just don't think it was in the ST paradigm (at least the one in effect until 2005), to tell the kind of story that Moore did with BSG, despite how DS9 appreciably moved in that direction. The fact that the CBS iterations of the franchise since 2017, appear to embrace such a philosophy, with far greater vigor, only proves to confirm that they have a connection to ST in name only, IMO. That's an entirely different discussion, though, one which I've no interest to engage in here!!!
Well year of hell was originally going to be its whole own season or arc but it got shrunk.
@@Privatepain1234 yeah, I know that, but personally I’d have preferred the entire series be an arc, especially since the main story/theme fully supported that sort of series. In TNG I could understand the Enterprise being fully repaired between episodes, as they were never too far from a Star-base, but to have have the ship reset, while on in hostile territory, on the other side of the galaxy a 100 years or so away from the nearest StarFleet base seems a bit crazy.
Early on the spent a lot of time talking about how everything, including power, food and materials for repairs were extremely limited, and would be hard to come by, but as time passed that was just sort of all but forgotten, unless they needed to use it as an excuse for a certain action or episode.
I love when you see Adama walking to the airlock it’s with the same purpose and music when he was going to war with Pegasus.
THIS is how you make a scene tense without combat. Most sci Fi shows and movies need to learn from this
1:16
Lee: "I'm about to do an exposition dump so the audience knows..."
Admiral: "I know the system."
Athena - with her Cylon reflexes - might have been the only Raptor pilot who could've pulled the rescue off. Dodging the debris and still getting the Raptro back in position to catch Tyrol and Cally.
Wow... Callie had so much fun she wanted to go again!
Such a tragedy her character is.
Dang too soon
😂😂😂
That's fucking dark... nice
I loved Callie in the series. Sad to see her actress becoming such a nutjob
Every life lesson you ever need can be found in BSG...that and TNG to fill in the gaps
Im sure its a total coincidence that a certain someone was a main writer on both. I do think i agree with you though that BSG has more moral dilemmas, which as you know, is saying something.
Agree
@mangoman628 he definitely tool heavy inspiration from star trek when making this which funny considering it was originally the a star wars cash in
Some of my favorites of course being the whole premise of the show being very similar to voyager which is when he stopped working on star trek duento disagreements and I think he made this show to make what he wanted voyager to be
Of course you have the "this is a witch hunt and I will not have it aboard my ship" and "the first link the chain"
And the whole galactica Pegasus arc seems very similar to the voyager equinox arc
Those are just some ice noticed I'm sure there's more
It's not wrong you know, humans can survive about a minute in space with no suit.
The most important thing is that you just dont hold your breath, you'll need to exhale before hitting the vacuum or your lungs will blow up.
Yep. 15 seconds of consciousness before the oxygen in your blood is either used or diffuses out of your lungs into the vaccum. How long you last from there just depends on how much damage you sustain from hemorrhaging and how quickly you can get to a pressurised environment before gas bubbles in your blood kill you.
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming Yeah ok...You have 8-15 sec if you depressurize a jet at 30,000 ft. Sci-Fi is great...
People usually look to the Adama Maneuver as evidence of the Admiral's brass cajones, but this right here is easily one of the hardest decisions I've ever seen, and he made it without blinking.
EDIT: Spelling.
But it's not one endangering him. That's the difference.
Bass cajones? Do you think he does bass to mouth?
...
**DUCKS!**
@@allenharper2928 BOOSH!
Considering there wasn't really any other option I'm not sure this counts as proof of any amount of balls.
Tyrol "I don't know" about getting shot into space with just his work pj's, "we'll talk later" Adama says. True leadership
Admiral's word is final. No time or reason for argument. All the sentimentality is putting them at risk but at the same time potentially immenant death does that to people
Ron Moore, who also made "For All Mankind" had a scene about a couple in vaccuum with no suits.
Saw that episode of FAM. Heartbreaking 😢
If there is one raptor pilot I would trust with this mission its Athena.
Won't be the last time Cally went out the airlock...
For that moment you need a Star Trek transporter.
Watching these little clips, I'm getting to that point, where the whole series needs a re watch
Yep I only watched it once on its initial run
I love this show and found the episode dramatic and fun... but, just to knit-pick, not technically accurate.
If the outer door is leaking, all that it would do is slowly decompress the interior of the launch bay. The small thumb-sized hole in the patch could have been solved by sticking almost anything over the hole and the interior pressure of the remaining atmosphere would hold it in place. Since the launch tube can be pressurized, the rate which the breathable air is escaping could be overcome by the ship re-pressurizing the bay, thus maintaining the breathable environment long enough to rescue Cally and the Chief.
The dramatic-license taken with the added threat of freezing to death is a hollywood troupe. You don't actually freeze to death when exposed to space. That's a myth. Further more, I don't know why a small leak in the outer door would also induce such a dramatic loss of heat. A vacuum is a very good insulator, it prevents heat exchange, which is how your coffee thermos keeps hot things hot and cold things cold. Space is a near perfect vacuum. Cally and the Chief would slowly lose body heat over time, but the launch tube has its own heating system or else why wouldn't they be freezing the moment they entered the launch tube?
At this point, the worst that can happen to them is the compartment they are in becomes fully depressurized, which would eventually cause them to lose consciousness, but not turn them into meat popsicles.
Thus, the baffling choice to explosively decompress the launch tube by blowing open the outer doors. The violent and sudden loss of all atmospheric pressure would have seriously injured if not out right killed Cally and the Chief instantly. Never mind those huge armored doors being turned into projectiles that could have destroyed the rescue raptor and projected the two crewmen out into space at high velocity.
Even more puzzling is they have emergency breathing equipment the entire time. So the loss of atmosphere is even less of a threat. Instead of triggering an explosive decompression event, they could have just decompressed the compartment in a controlled manner. Once a vacuum was established, opening the outer door would not result in a violent event, instead the two crewmen could be rescued by the raptor crew boarding from the outside and carrying them back to the raptor.
As mentioned, freezing to death isn't a threat when exposed to outer space. Instead, the first symptom would be serious swelling of all the soft tissue as gases trapped in the body are released without the normal surface pressure keeping them suppressed. While this would be very painful and limited their mobility, it wouldn't result in permanent damage or be immediately fatal. Cally and the Chief would recover within a day or two after being treated for aerobullosis (aka, the bends). The second, more serious danger is from radiation exposure. Lots of radiation in space, but especially ultra-violet radiation from the nearby star (if there was one). This effect would be like a very serious sunburn similar to Arc Flash that arc welders can suffer while welding without protecting exposed skin. This could be mitigated by simply covering any exposed parts of the body as Cally and the Chief could manage. Plus, Galactica could have positioned itself to provide shade from any potential source of environmental radiation sufficient enough for the small amount of time they'd be exposed to it.
So in the end, all they had to do was decompress the compartment in a controlled action. Cally and the Chief would have fallen unconscious and then; open the outer doors so the rescue raptor team could grab them and return to the raptor. Job Done.
Episode over in the first 5 minutes leaving 45 minutes of Tricia Helfer being Tricia Helfer as filler.
Even water born ship damage control teams use wood wedges and hammers to seal leaks yet these space faring sailors only have a flimsy sticker and I guess they never bothered to include anything stronger.
If they had decompressed the compartment slowly, Cally and the Chief would have been lying there, essentially exposed to hard vacuum while they open the hatch and retrieve them, which would surely take significantly longer than a minute...? I'm guessing that's why they chose this method. To reduce the amount of vacuum exposure as much as possible.
Tracy and Gordo from For All Mankind would like a word with you about this plan.
Don't remind me
Sometime it's the focus on details that makes this show so great and re-watchable, like for example here we see the CO and XO followed by marines, indicating that they still followed protocol and proper procedures, a stark difference from say the last season where they kind of just "did an Elsa" with the whole thing, dissolutioned by "Earth" and henceforth aimless for a time. ("an elsa", get it, eh, eeh? "let it go, let it go!" )
That was a cute girl. She had a horrible and horrifying death from that Cylon, though. The creep factor of the show escalated a LOT for me when that happened.
Callie getting killed by Tory?
DragonDriver100, First, keep in mind that without Tory's intervention, Cally was moments away from inflicting that same fate on herself and her son.
Second, as I believe should be pretty obvious, Tory had little option than to do what she did, however brutal its depiction may seem. Cally was manifestly unstable and wouldn't have been deterred from exposing all 4 of them. With their value as bargaining chips with the rebel Cylons, some time off, I would reckon that they would've been airlocked (even Tigh) at this juncture.
Whatever ulterior motives might be attached to it, Tory did choose to save the boy's life, FWIW.
I almost had a heart attack the first time I watched this!
One of the many touched i loved about the show, that the Galactica got worse and worse looking with each battle, fight, etc.
15 seconds from when the airlock opened until they were in the Raptor. They would barely be conscious IRL but those fifteen seconds would be very painful
Can the Galactica recreate air? They lose so much not only here but everytime the hangar bay opens or this air lock.
@@thesigness1567 Right, but in space there aint much surrounding water :D
Most likely... i mean in reality ISS recycles air, otherwise how would astronauts live there for months at the time, so probably that technology exists in BSG universe too.
Also, they probably empty air lock or hangar from air before opening it.
I imagine there’s CO2 scrubbers.
It's reasonable to assume that Galactica can use hydrolysis and some of the other systems that real submarines and spaceships use to generate air.
Oxygen Generateors aren't actually that hard.
One of my favorite episodes.
Best Sci-Fi series ever made (yes i know its a reboot)
TOS allusion: "Fire in Space," with Boomer, Athena, and Boxey trapped, with a daring spacewalk action by Apollo and Starbuck to blow the hull and extinguish the fire threatening the whole ship. Plus maybe a shade of "The Gun on Ice Planet Zero."
At least they didn't have to go through the probability cool down afterwards. I don't think they'd have taken being a sofa in stride...
Why did they not do the same thing as in the Battle of the colony where the Raptor locked on to the ships hull and they cut through to gain entry?
It's a bit of a throwaway line but it's mentioned at 1:45 - the outer doors are too thick to cut through in time.
@@ennexthefox some people don't listen
@@power2084 I didn't mean it like that, the comment about the blast doors is made in the middle of some jargon-heavy dialogue so it's easy to miss.
Because that was Colonial One, passenger ship and not heavily armored Battlestar. :-)
Because it would render the entire launch tube unusable?
You treat HER, She'll always Take care of you
The air is being blown out of that tiny hole. All they needed to do was put something over it to stop it. It's only 1 atmosphere.
That's why you should keep the other Battlestar!
I’m not sure what Pegasus could do here.
Cut a small hole in the blast door to let the air bacl in, that buys to time to cut a bigger hole in the door to get them out.
Using a cutting torch could burn their air supply up, as rescue crews learned the hard way in at Pearl Harbor.
Holy Celix Batman!
Strange thing is with the compartment losing air, there should not have been very much decompression when they blew the hatch manually.
"Some air" and "absolutely no air" is a very big difference.
If it's enough for these 2 to have conversations and not pass out in then it's definetly accurate the way it's done.
Life threatening loss of air is still over half an atmosphere. Survival limit is considered to be 0.4 bar.
That is ~10 tonnes of pressure per square meter. Things WILL be shot out the tube
One big mistake of this scene is their masks. They should put them off and breath out just before the doors opens. It's impossible to hold air inside your lungs in a vacuum, if you'd try it's would be messy.
Also the temperature would not be an issue because there's nothing to take their heat away fast enough to cause hypothermia.
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming Yap. sci fi always treats empty space like ice cold water. Vacuum actually makes for pretty good heat isolation.
Main immediate problem of space aside from the obvious lack of air, is lack of pressure. The gasses within the body would expand. Temperature is second.
I think if the mask seals perfectly, then it wouldn't be an issue. The problem occurs if there is even a tiny leak.
@@krisztiancsernyik4550 No. Your lungs are gonna explode in a vacuum if there's air in them.
Wearing a mask does nothing.
2:03 I find your lack of a rescue plan disturbing
You think Starbuck would be crazy enough to so it before.
Why don't they have someone with patches on the outside, finding the hole, and patching it from outside? It doesn't even need to be a permanent patch, just something to hold the air in long enough for the doors to open and get them out?
most likely due to how small the hole was. You're talking a hole the size of your thumb in an exterior wall that you may not even be able to really access from the outside. Rewatching the episode, the initial patches were made by a work crew, most likely with the door open, so there was no air leak. Sensors probably didn't notice anything until the airlock was being repressurizied
@@Blackburn5360 that doesn't really add up because since Tyrol knows where the hole is he could easily be able to guide someone on the outside. Or use something as a guide like modern day use of smoke as a signal. If they could make colored smoke perfect, but even if not, rip a bit of clothing off and feed and end through. Someone one the outside would see the piece of whatever they used flapping around as the air escaped around it, and boom. They have found the hole.
Good thought, but I'm not sure that would work. A patch on the outside would be buffeted by the escaping air, as opposed to a patch on the inside, where the mass of the air presses the patch against the interior side of the wall. Much trickier to apply, and depending on the properties of the sealant used, maybe impossible to fix in place.
There's a lot about the details of how the BSG world operates that isn't made explicitly clear. I think we just have to take it on faith that the plan enacted was the only one possible.
@@michaelccozens I agree it wouldn't be as easy, but considering this is a race of people that have mastered spaceflight, I am pretty sure they could figure out how to super glue a patch on long enough to get them out.
Probably vented into a crawl space type area not an open hole into space.
No raptors that could’ve used a breaching seal to stop the leak?
Why did they just have the raptor use their battle mounting collar thing just like they did with the colony ship battle where they mounted and cut a quick hole for entry? If they did that over the breech they could have gotten out no problem, no drama, no episode lol
“We’ll talk later. GET READY.” Love Adama.
Cally came THIS close to death...again! She has managed to avoid dying for so long, so why the FRAK did she have to die in the end like that?! There needs to be a rule in storytelling where if a character seems like he/she is going to die and survives at LEAST 2-3 times, the writers are not allowed to kill off that character. You've messed with our hearts enough at that point that we should be assured that character is safe!
Who is the lady soldier near to the admiral who clicked the button in the end?
I think Seelix
Why are they using nebuliser masks?
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Um... putting a mask on might not be a smart idea. AFAIK, if you're going to be exposed to vacuum, the best is to empty your lungs. Otherwise air pressure might rupture them.
No offense to the writers.... but can't they put some duct tape over that tiny leak? It seems like an easy solution for a leak only a few inches long.
They tried patching it earlier, but the damage underneath the hull's surface continued to let air leak out.
I am not sure if duct tape would be sufficient to keep pressure difference between fully pressured hull of the Battlestar and the vacuum... :-)
this was about 150,000 years before duct tape was invented
Normal atmosphere is 14.7 psi. The forces get big fast.