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I was airing up my tires from a guy's shop once and he had a pvc air system. I turned on the air and walked outside to air my tires. Just after I got outside, a bomb went off in the shop. The entire length(30-50 ft) of pvc had shattered, shooting 4 foot pvc spears into every wall, the ceiling, and the garage door. I was lucky to be outside, because I don't think anyone inside would have lived. The spears were driven in so hard, some of them had to be broken/sawed off because they would not come out. DO NOT use pvc or cpvc for an air system. Use copper, steel, or the proper hose.
@@randomschittz9461 Who are you talking to? Who claimed to be an expert? Why are you for or against it? How about making your point? I had a portable air tank for 10 years plus, hardly ever used it for anything except on occasion using it to pump up a mower tire. You are not going to run a power tool off of it. After its quickly deflated you have to hold the air hose onto the valve stem to refill it which takes a while.
I have these little tanks around my shop and I can attest to how useful they are. I run a 3/4 impact on a little bitty portable air compressor and I love it , it does take a few minutes to air it all up but I find myself letting it keep running and not having it stop start all the time it’s just better
I just did the same thing but I used Blue lock tight instead of of the tape it’s a lot easier and does a great job now I can run my HF sandblast cabinet longer
I did that with a 60 gallon tank I got off craig's list. I keep the second one in the other shop and it gave me 2 benefits. One, I have 120 gal of storage, and two I have a tank closer to my tools in the other shop so I'm not working off of a 100' line.
I did this at home. My 1 gallon portable compressor and added a 20lb propane tank as auxiliary when I don't need it portable. (Just a DIYer). Quick connect into propane and a regulator output with a tee. Tank was free on Facebook when someone was getting rid of their grill, about $25 in fittings at home depot.
CFM is CFM, if you have a 100 gal tank vs a 200 gal tank, the wear and tear on your air compressor is the same, the 200 gal tank may help you with pneumatic tools, but the air compressor will rum twice as long to refill it. Actually running longer may hurt your compressor because it will run hotter. So it is a tradeoff.
I did this but I found two bare tanks and put a 5 hp 220 backed to a V twin pump from harbor freight. Two belt system. 80 gal+ a 35 gal. Took less then 5 min to fill both. Your standard 110 pump will end up burning out quicker trying to keep up with demand.
You're right that it's possible to kill a compressor by running too long, but starting and stopping also takes a toll. If you look at a compressor catalog you'll find they put the same pump and motor on multiple tanks. 50% doesn't seem like an obscene increase. CFM is only CFM when it's constant. Intermittent use allows the compressor to catch up, a bigger tanks gives more cushion for longer periods of use. If you run out of air at two or three minutes, but need the tool for four minutes at a time this will make a difference.
I drain my tank every time I run my air compressor. I heard the guy that owned it before me bled it religiously too. That must be why at the ripe old age of 78 years it's still holding pressure. Plus it's an ASME rated tank. So she's thicc. Being built at the height of the war it is mil surplus. The battleship gray it's in suggests it belonged to the Navy. It's a Par made in Defiance Ohio.
Did a port and polish on the compressor air intake. Make slightly bigger holding chamber in the head of said compressor. Change out a pulley to slightly bigger drive pulley. Same motor speed but faster pumping
Most of the noise comes from the intake, also if you get a compressor with two stages high and low it will give you the same cfm in a single tank without taking up more space. Running at a lower rpm will extend the compressor life significantly. The folks at Castair can help with any of this as well as parts and troubleshooting ask for Clint!
An auxiliary air tank can help maintain pressure in a system if you place it remotely from your air compressor. It keeps you from getting line loss at the end of an air line run. So the least helpful place to put the tank is right next to your other tank. But if all of your air line is less than 50 feet then it doesn't matter. Or if you've plumbed your shop with line over 1/2" i.d.
Good advice. However, you don't really describe how you do it. My plan was to T off the main tank outlet with a single hose going to the reserve tank. All this is below the regulator connection so there is just more volume. Is that how you did it?
Depending on how your shop is layed out I'd put the extra tank on the other side or something or where you are working a lot with tools that need a lot of air but next to is fine too really wherever it will fit
ok, so just plumb the aux tank with a hose from main tank "out" and from aux tank to main tank "in"? Something with a diagram would help me from creating a bomb
Your pump will NOT give any more than it did before... The extra tank will ONLY help a tiny bit for a few seconds when you first start.. I don't think you understand what you are doing... Your pump still has to produce the exact same amount so it has to run the exact same amount of time. A buffer tank can be useful if you have a long run between the compressor and point of use but next to each other actually forces the compressor to run more... Do a little research and learn a little...
Yeah, the compressor also runs longer to fill the added storage capacity, and those crappy little compressor pumps wear out fast. You're not saving anything.
yes it does run longer but it only has to bring the tanks up the the cut in pressure. Mine goes from 90-135 in a few min, with a 80-20 duty cycle rating. 80% on 20% off , or down time
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I was airing up my tires from a guy's shop once and he had a pvc air system. I turned on the air and walked outside to air my tires. Just after I got outside, a bomb went off in the shop. The entire length(30-50 ft) of pvc had shattered, shooting 4 foot pvc spears into every wall, the ceiling, and the garage door.
I was lucky to be outside, because I don't think anyone inside would have lived. The spears were driven in so hard, some of them had to be broken/sawed off because they would not come out.
DO NOT use pvc or cpvc for an air system. Use copper, steel, or the proper hose.
Add a shutoff valve and couplers and you can unhook the smaller tank and take it wherever you need it.
To do what with? Won't last very long.
They make 12v tire inflators and small pancake air compressors.
Gotta love armchair experts like this guy☝️
@@randomschittz9461 Who are you talking to?
Who claimed to be an expert? Why are you for or against it? How about making your point? I had a portable air tank for 10 years plus, hardly ever used it for anything except on occasion using it to pump up a mower tire. You are not going to run a power tool off of it. After its quickly deflated you have to hold the air hose onto the valve stem to refill it which takes a while.
I have these little tanks around my shop and I can attest to how useful they are. I run a 3/4 impact on a little bitty portable air compressor and I love it , it does take a few minutes to air it all up but I find myself letting it keep running and not having it stop start all the time it’s just better
@@georgewelker853 I used a 30# Freon tank for a few years before I got an air compessor.
Bro, I love all the armchair experts on your channel. Their ego makes you more money... Haters are helpers too!
I just did the same thing but I used Blue lock tight instead of of the tape it’s a lot easier and does a great job now I can run my HF sandblast cabinet longer
I did that with a 60 gallon tank I got off craig's list. I keep the second one in the other shop and it gave me 2 benefits. One, I have 120 gal of storage, and two I have a tank closer to my tools in the other shop so I'm not working off of a 100' line.
I did this at home. My 1 gallon portable compressor and added a 20lb propane tank as auxiliary when I don't need it portable. (Just a DIYer). Quick connect into propane and a regulator output with a tee. Tank was free on Facebook when someone was getting rid of their grill, about $25 in fittings at home depot.
A purged and refitted propane tank works just as well.
CFM is CFM, if you have a 100 gal tank vs a 200 gal tank, the wear and tear on your air compressor is the same, the 200 gal tank may help you with pneumatic tools, but the air compressor will rum twice as long to refill it. Actually running longer may hurt your compressor because it will run hotter. So it is a tradeoff.
Add an external thermal cut-off on your compressor motor to avoid burning up motor, or overheating compressor itself.
Exactly this took all of 7 seconds to figure out!
I did this but I found two bare tanks and put a 5 hp 220 backed to a V twin pump from harbor freight. Two belt system. 80 gal+ a 35 gal. Took less then 5 min to fill both. Your standard 110 pump will end up burning out quicker trying to keep up with demand.
Yah’ll talkin small pumps.Some of us have pumps that would run 24/7-365 😆
You're right that it's possible to kill a compressor by running too long, but starting and stopping also takes a toll. If you look at a compressor catalog you'll find they put the same pump and motor on multiple tanks. 50% doesn't seem like an obscene increase.
CFM is only CFM when it's constant. Intermittent use allows the compressor to catch up, a bigger tanks gives more cushion for longer periods of use. If you run out of air at two or three minutes, but need the tool for four minutes at a time this will make a difference.
Do yourself a favor and add the drain extension. I did on my 60 gal and it makes it more likely I will drain the tank more often.
I drain my tank every time I run my air compressor. I heard the guy that owned it before me bled it religiously too. That must be why at the ripe old age of 78 years it's still holding pressure. Plus it's an ASME rated tank. So she's thicc. Being built at the height of the war it is mil surplus. The battleship gray it's in suggests it belonged to the Navy. It's a Par made in Defiance Ohio.
Did a port and polish on the compressor air intake. Make slightly bigger holding chamber in the head of said compressor. Change out a pulley to slightly bigger drive pulley. Same motor speed but faster pumping
Most of the noise comes from the intake, also if you get a compressor with two stages high and low it will give you the same cfm in a single tank without taking up more space. Running at a lower rpm will extend the compressor life significantly. The folks at Castair can help with any of this as well as parts and troubleshooting ask for Clint!
Yes sir. Always need more air.
Ok so you put the air hose on the extra tank. Where did you connect it to the big tank?
An auxiliary air tank can help maintain pressure in a system if you place it remotely from your air compressor. It keeps you from getting line loss at the end of an air line run. So the least helpful place to put the tank is right next to your other tank. But if all of your air line is less than 50 feet then it doesn't matter. Or if you've plumbed your shop with line over 1/2" i.d.
Tank drain--1/4” street elbow, 1/4” x 6" pipe nipple, 1/4” ball valve
Good advice. However, you don't really describe how you do it. My plan was to T off the main tank outlet with a single hose going to the reserve tank. All this is below the regulator connection so there is just more volume. Is that how you did it?
Depending on how your shop is layed out I'd put the extra tank on the other side or something or where you are working a lot with tools that need a lot of air but next to is fine too really wherever it will fit
ok, so just plumb the aux tank with a hose from main tank "out" and from aux tank to main tank "in"? Something with a diagram would help me from creating a bomb
Been using PEX line for over a 15 year, it great.
Nice and tight , hell yea ! haha
Remove a spark plug from your race car, make a hose adapter from an old plug, mount hose to it, start the engine and boom, you have instant air.
That would void the warranty on my racecar bro
Dude what the heck was the mod ? You didn’t show it !
Hell everyone could have come up with that. How about a mod that will let a 1.6hp compressor fill a 60 gallon tank in less that 10 minutes.
thats what she said
Your pump will NOT give any more than it did before... The extra tank will ONLY help a tiny bit for a few seconds when you first start.. I don't think you understand what you are doing... Your pump still has to produce the exact same amount so it has to run the exact same amount of time. A buffer tank can be useful if you have a long run between the compressor and point of use but next to each other actually forces the compressor to run more... Do a little research and learn a little...
Yeah, the compressor also runs longer to fill the added storage capacity, and those crappy little compressor pumps wear out fast. You're not saving anything.
yes it does run longer but it only has to bring the tanks up the the cut in pressure. Mine goes from 90-135 in a few min, with a 80-20 duty cycle rating. 80% on 20% off , or down time
He's using a Quincy...no exactly little or cheap. Don't buy the little oil free units
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