You know what the craziest part of this story is? The mom is divorcing the dad because she thinks it's the family curse that killed her baby, when it's actually her negligence that caused it.
I saw a theory once that said "the curse is not real, its just something that came from the grieving mind of Edith Finch". In essence, the family let the "curse" take hold of their life and mind, to the point that everyone on the family expected to die and just.. didn't care? Some deaths are just accidental but a few are pure negligence. Was it the curse thar built the child swing on a cliff? Or was it a stupid negligent decision?. Did the curse drown the baby or was it a mother's neglect. Even the poem of how they say "the baby was probably happy in his last moments, so you should be happy too" when referring to how "it wasn't her fault, it was the curse" just puts more weight on the idea that they are just numb to it because its all that darn curse and not their fault.
Listen to Fauna everyone: sometimes you need to step away. Just because something is fictional doesn't mean it can't hurt you. It's ok if something is too much for you!
@@viiiRA_ i think in the reality we choose to hide our suffering but when it happen with fiction we let reality and fictionnal pain go out to relieve ourselves
I like how they showed the baby's point of view, and made it feel like the baby was too happily lost in its imagination to be scared. It was very sad, but it made the scene have a sort of sad beauty to it. Like it's kinda... helpful to think that he wasn't scared. Dang it, now I'm crying. Bae may be chaos, but she's also sweet as pie. Glad the most comforting EN member was here to help her.
@@Enchie the developers will die in the most painful way for sure if they showed what's really happened at that moment, People will showed him hell for sure, even though it's the reality that we must face, cause that kind of accident had been happened all this time due to the lack of parenting educational
There's a video about this game that explains who is the "villain" of the game and what is the "curse" of the Finches that I really recommend (Not the Game Theory one LOL). One thing that the video talks about is how the curse of the family boils down to them being irresponsible and blaming fate instead of taking responsabilities. We dont know how the baby felt at its last moments but the dad takes comfort in believing that the baby wasn't concerned at his imminent fate.
Was that ever in question? I feel like the only real contenders for Neutral are Mumei and Kronii. Bae's ironically the only sane woman in Council at times.
Just another reminder that Bae is actually (ironically, being "Chaos", supposedly, lol) by far the softest & most sentimental/emotional etc out of all of Holo-EN.... Even moreso THAN Fauna. She's incredibly sensitive, & tender hearted, & it definitely shows (& sadly, causes her to get more upset) during times like this... 🥺
Fauna is sweet, but she is suprisingly though when she needs to be. She is the kind of person that is emotional, yes, but will take care of you when needed, despite her own feelings. A really good friend to have.
I recall seeing that part of the game and being filled with visceral anger. Can't blame Bae for crying in the slightest, that entire sequence is just soul crushing
Man this one hits close to home. Mind you this was 35 years ago so I am over it now but my new born sister drowned when I was 5 putting me in a 10 year depression till one day it just hit me. She would not want me to mourn for her death but to be happy. Oh and my parents are great parents, it was a family friend that put my sister to bed but had laid her on her stomach not her back. Moral of the story do not think about your misery but think about what your loved one would have wanted for you. Do not get me wrong cry, rage, get it all out of your system then think what would she/he want for me.
@@adrianaslund8605 newborns can barely lift their heads. They are fragile and helpless which is why their response to everything is to just cry until someone figures out what they need. Suffocating from a blanket or pillow happens a lot, which is why you don't put those things in a newborn's crib. Drowning or scalding from baths happens a lot because of distracted parents.
You can tell from the heart rates that Bae was calming down, but when Fauna noticed and acknowledged her sadness, it broke her composure and let her feels let loose ;^;
But do you know how many times stuff like this, and worse, has happened throughout history? It hardens you man, just thinking about how evil, dark, sad, and messed up our history is. People used to literally dash infants against rocks (its in the bible, and other historical accounts corroborate it) when invading countries (not all the time obv, but still it happened at all) and burn infants to death in the white-hot hands of statues while the baby cried in agony. You can't be a historian or a student of history without either being psycho, or so hard that you could be mistaken for one. Being the second doesn't make you a monster, it just makes you broken and scarred.
@BurningMan777 To be fair, tho, knowingly & intentionally killing babies is a slightly different source of anger than “to dumb to be left in the same room as a baby”.
@@StarboyXL9Life is not good or evil. It just is. Good things happen, bad things happen too. At the end the day, morals are just standards we ourselves set. A dart we throw on the wall. Useful and important to reach, but not objective. Again we set the standard, going below or above it, doesn't say anything objective about the world. One can say, it's _because_ our ideals are so high, history seems so unbearably wretched. We can either continually be depressed about something that by design, is an ever distant goal. Or we can recognise, that higher or lower, it doesn't change our duty to continue to be better and leave the world better.
I love how different their reactions are. Bae is sobbing over the baby dying while Fauna is just furious at the parents. Edit: I mostly found it inertesting since, considering their streaming personas (Bae being loud and angry while Fauna is soft spoken and meeker), you’d kind of expect it to be the other way around
Well yeah... That's the more logical emotion to feel... I would kill Kay too in my anger just for leaving a baby alone in the water (Saddly, kids on the range to 0 until 4 or 5 needs like 24hrs of attention, you can't leave them a minute alone without supervision)
@@Voldrim359 I would have beat the hell outta someone if I seen them leave their kid especially a baby in the water alone, I hate children but I would know better than to leave a child that is literally to young to do anything besides depend on their parent to take care of it in the water.
@@Voldrim359 I mean, both are equally logical emotions, it's just that Bae fixated on the tragedy of the baby's death, while Fauna fixated on the irresponsibility of the parents.
1:11 Bae: *sniffs*, Fauna: "owh", Fauna's heart rate: 90, 99, 103, 107 2:47 Bae: "can you imagine like a one and a half year old baby", Bae's heart rate: 93, 94, 95, 98, 99
Rage causes a faster heart rate than any form of sadness since it’s pumping more blood in order to enable the fighting part of the fight or flight instinct. Shows that the reactions are genuine to the characters. Bae is heartbroken, but Fauna is furious and ready to rip someone’s head off.
@@ubermaster134 makes sense. The mom is acting in opposition to Nature, which dictates that the mother raise and protect her young until they’ve reached maturation, thus incurring Nature’s wrath. Chaos knows the terrible truth of sentient creatures however, and simply mourns the inevitable misuse of its powers by mankind to create terrible outcomes.
With Bae 99 is the highest she gets talking about this and you can tell it's because she's like struggling to say it. Fauna literally reacted to bae just hinting at crying. My God she's caring!
This reminds me of a story my mom tells me often. She would tell me about an unmarked headstone in the backyard area of her apartment. It looks like a concrete cone. For a time it was used for the grave marker for my mom's sister, who was alive for a grand total of 6 hours after her birth. My mom never even got to meet her, but she still remembers her short-lived sister to this day.
Drowning is a terrible experience, the fear and anxiety you feel at that moment is terrible, some jerk pushed me into the deepest part of the pool (2,5 m) and I was 1,60m and didn't knew how to swim less than how to float, fortunately the lifeguard saw that and it was solved pretty fast but the fear I had while I was sinking deeper and deeper felt like forever
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU back when I was learning how to swim without floating my brother dunked me into the water while my dad had his back turned. Legit I was hanging on the edge and my brother legit grabbed me and shoved me under. Granted he didn't know I didn't have floaties on. So I was under for a solid minute or so unable to swim back up till my dad noticed and got me out. Being 4 years old you have a very small lung capacity and and I almost blacked out. I'm not afraid to go swimming or under water but you like force me under I panic
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU Was it really for you? I've gone under to the point of falling unconscious before. I didn't feel any fear or anxiety at all. And I am a very anxiety ridden person. I felt very calm. Nothing felt wrong at all. All I could really think of was to open my eyes and look at how different everything looked underwater. And, each time this happened to me, the amazement of how everything looked is all I recall experiencing before everything went black and I'd wake up somewhere else.
I saw a theory once that said "the curse is not real, its just something that came from the grieving mind of Edith Finch". In essence, the family let the "curse" take hold of their life and mind, to the point that everyone on the family expected to die and just.. didn't care? Some deaths are just accidental but a few are pure negligence. Was it the curse thar built the child swing on a cliff? Or was it a stupid negligent decision?. Did the curse drown the baby or was it a mother's neglect. Even the poem of how they say "the baby was probably happy in his last moments, so you should be happy too" when referring to how "it wasn't her fault, it was the curse" just puts more weight on the idea that they are just numb to it because its all that darn curse and not their fault.
There was never a "curse" is the point... It was a few accidents & a lot of negligence, stupidity, etc, with an unwillingness to accept any accountability for the fact lots of the deaths were clearly someone's fault...
Watching this live, I was a little bit surprised to see how hard Bae was taking that scene, poor Bae. Maybe it's because I might be a bit more desensitized to fictional trauma as I've grown up watching so many movies/shows with these kind of elements and have grown used to it over time. And it was Interesting to see Fauna being more angry at the parent for her incompetence than feeling sad. Of course, people react to these sort of things in different ways, and that's okay, I just found it interesting to witness.
I think its just that different things hit different people. Like anohana is seen as incredibly sad but it didnt hit me at all because sad things about friends doesnt make me sad. On the other hand, the moment a parent does anything self sacrificing in media i'm tearing up. Themes of forgiveness can also make me cry. Its really just on a person to person basis what gets to them.
@@leonfire99 yeah Anohana was fine for me, but I've never cried as much as I did during A Place Further than the Universe. And I didn't bother even trying to watch Plastic Memories.
'Video games cause violence' Meanwhile, i'm watching Bae literally crying her soul out over this game and understandably so, all while Fauna gently reassures her like a good Mother. Hope Bae is okay.
Tbh, I don't normally cry when it comes to stuff like this. I recognize it as a game, and while the story makes me sad, I don't feel much emotional impact beyond that. But when I see someone else cry or get emotional, I tend to do the same, like it's more real because someone else is feeling it.
In this moment, the real Bae came through, and the fact that she was overwhelmed with what was a very sad and honest moment made me like her even more.
Awwwh. Bae is such a little sweetheart. For an embodiment of chaos, her heart is full of love. I just wanted to hold her and tell her everything was going to alright when she started crying. 🥺
Man... when I saw this live, I wanted to give Bae such a big hug. I'm exactly the same when it comes to infant deaths and I can't help but shed tears, because of how innocent they are. At 2:20, Bae's little wail is so heart wrenching, I want to cry every time. 😔💔
Fauna was probably struggling not to go into a swear laden rant. Those were not amusement chuckles, those are "I'm chuckling because if I don't I'll probably get even angrier."
I’m glad she cried. Better let it out than just bottle it inside. Doesn’t matter if it was just a game, the emotion she felt was real. Though my reaction would be same as Fauna’s. The baby’s death was preventable, like who in their right mind leaves their baby alone in a bathtub that has a handle so light it can be turned with a toy frog? Bullshit. Anyone who looks after children, specially babies, keep this in mind: NEVER LEAVE THEM UNATTENDED UNLESS PROPERLY SECURED.
Y'know something, that thing right there should serve as a reminder that not everyone should be a parent. Why on earth you would prioritise a phone call over your kid when they're in a bath with the taps on full I would never understand. we need more people like Bae and Fauna in the world, honestly XD
Well... according to the visuals, it was off and she drained the tub. But then also according to the visuals, a toy frog leapt out of the tub and turned the tap back on, so maybe we'll never know what really happened.
I'm not sure what happened since I don't know this game💀 the visuals show that She already turn It off and the drain still there🤨 how TF this still full
It's hard to understand why someone would cry over a game, but I can explain. As someone with similar disposition, it just means Bae has a big heart. Everything feels a lot more real and painful, but it also helps understand others better. She's going to be a great mother someday.
Oh man, Bae is so precious.. Imagine having an empathy so big that you literally cry at a video game. Not saying that not crying don't make you have empathy but Bae is just next level... Kusogaki is such a softbol inside. Love her
I didn't cry here because it is framed so comically. I think the first time I bawwed my eyes out was Planetarian and that's a freekin kinetic novel. Steins;Gate nailed me too. (If you don't see it coming, it is a gutpunch.)
It's not the video game part that surprises me, some are very well written and after 30+ hours of engagement can have a big impact on people even if they don't have such empathy. It's the fact that there was 0 setup, and you know from the moment the mom walks away what's going to happen. All the usual storytelling elements that would make people cry are missing.
I saw a fan theory that Bae is the REAL guardian of civilization, and Mumei, who is actually the avatar of chaos, has tricked Bae into thinking that Bae is chaos as a prank. This scene...really feeds into that headcanon for me. So many feels for innocent human life and the misuse of technologies. Bae is such a responsible, empathetic leader of the Council!
Fauna:I'm surely they won't hit us with another one right? Right... You guys been hypnotized by the game the player is the one who controlling the scenario through their final destination without a choice 💀💀 dang it game.
This is such a sad and real thing that could happen, I’m glad we each have a loving mom that cares for us, this will always remain as a very sad and real thing that can happen in the world
I'm so glad Fauna Was With Bae at that time when they were watching this unsettling cut scene in the game. There's really no doubt she's Mother Nature. Bravo, Fauna. Bravo!
@@flordelphinta But very, *very* unkind to rats :-p but yeah, perhaps if nature was able to embody as a sentient being it would find friendship in other supernatural beings.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 nature loves rats, they can eat almost anything, survive in the worst of places, are highly intelligent animals, and are unaffected by many diseases. Its human civilisation that is cruel to rats
@@kenjutsukata1o1 Compared to the rest of the universe, I'd say mother nature is pretty damn caring. try mother endless void of space or mother supermassive black hole.
I find it very hard to get sad most of the time, but this just hurts my soul to no end, so it isn't surprising to see someone genuinely breakdown even if it's fictional
Theres another one, its related to beastie where shes telling on stream what has happened and all and while she did there was a moment she had to stop tried to continue but couldn’t trying to hold it
Don't worry, Beastie is fine. She felt that the condition at home wasn't best for Beastie so she had to give him away. But she still misses him a lot and cried on stream.
Dude I literally just wanted to wrap Bae in a bear hug hearing her break down like that. 🥺 Totally understandable why she was upset, child neglect is VERY upsetting even if it IS fictional
Calvin jumps off a swing that is positioned facing a cliff, Molly ate the poisonous mistletoe berries left hanging outside her bedroom, Gus gets crushed by debris while flying a kite in a storm and refusing to go inside, Sam gets punted off a cliff by a deer he shot and was trying to take a photo of, Walter takes a walk on some train tracks, and little Gregory is left alone in a bathtub. I'm pretty sure the Finch Family Curse is that they're a buncha FOKKIN IDIOTS.
I hear that and then said same person will cry at a book or tv show like somehow a game is less valid despite you being *more* involved than a tv show since *you* have to progress it
Games are just stories, and stories are made to make us feel. anyone who waves away a sad movie with the phrase "it's just a movie" hasn't understood the purpose of fiction.
Yeah that scene is really fucked up. I was genuinely disgusted even tho it's just a game. I wanted to hug Bae so bad when she did start crying like that 😢
i sob super hard everytime i see that scene. it's incredibly upsetting cause it was just a baby and he passed due to parental negligence 😢😢 I'm not a father yet but that sh*t TERRIFIES me so hard that i'll end up accidentally losing my baby
1:57 - Fauna immediately realizing that Bae was having a hard time. That’s friendship right there. The ceiling is in danger.. Edit: who am I kidding, the ceiling is definitely leaking.
I distant relative had a baby talking like 15+ years ago, can't remember if it was less than a year old or so. I believe they lived in an apartment, the door to the balcony was left slightly open, the baby crawled onto the balcony and fell off and died. You can't let your eyes off of kids that young unless you know they're enclosed in a room with 4 walls, not on something they can can fall out of and with furniture that is nailed to the wall, lots of kids die from furniture not nailed to the wall that fall on the like tv, dressers... better yet have no heavy furniture in their room till they're old enough.
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You know what the craziest part of this story is? The mom is divorcing the dad because she thinks it's the family curse that killed her baby, when it's actually her negligence that caused it.
Oh YIKES I hadn't realized
I saw a theory once that said "the curse is not real, its just something that came from the grieving mind of Edith Finch".
In essence, the family let the "curse" take hold of their life and mind, to the point that everyone on the family expected to die and just.. didn't care?
Some deaths are just accidental but a few are pure negligence.
Was it the curse thar built the child swing on a cliff? Or was it a stupid negligent decision?. Did the curse drown the baby or was it a mother's neglect.
Even the poem of how they say "the baby was probably happy in his last moments, so you should be happy too" when referring to how "it wasn't her fault, it was the curse" just puts more weight on the idea that they are just numb to it because its all that darn curse and not their fault.
@@MrShadic140 that reminds me of the villain of Paranoia Agent.
Women and accountability don't mix.
i mean to be fair this is absolutely a kind of real-life reaction you'd expect when someone is unable to admit to their own grievous error
Glad she had the group mom with her.
Tienes razón no me gustaría imaginar que pasaría si Mumei estaba presente.
@@fernandob.g.5972 or kronii and gura💀
@@fernandob.g.5972 lol
If it was Sana she’d be ok too
@@umaru6235 apathy might be their way of pushing the problems away... idk
“That is so upset-“
*”I would divorce her too!”*
That one really gut punched Bae right in the feels. She was tryin' hard not to just let it all out.
Listen to Fauna everyone: sometimes you need to step away. Just because something is fictional doesn't mean it can't hurt you. It's ok if something is too much for you!
This is why stories/narratives are so powerful. They can show you want is real without being real.
"We suffer more in imagination than reality"
@@viiiRA_ i think in the reality we choose to hide our suffering but when it happen with fiction we let reality and fictionnal pain go out to relieve ourselves
@@SkyKingAzure To take a line from a Genshin Impact event, "Could it be that "the truth" in a fictional is equivalent to "fiction" in the real world"?
I like how they showed the baby's point of view, and made it feel like the baby was too happily lost in its imagination to be scared. It was very sad, but it made the scene have a sort of sad beauty to it. Like it's kinda... helpful to think that he wasn't scared.
Dang it, now I'm crying. Bae may be chaos, but she's also sweet as pie. Glad the most comforting EN member was here to help her.
I imagine the developers would be hunted if they showed what really happened.
the real question is how did the frog turn on the water
@@Enchie the developers will die in the most painful way for sure if they showed what's really happened at that moment, People will showed him hell for sure, even though it's the reality that we must face, cause that kind of accident had been happened all this time due to the lack of parenting educational
There's a video about this game that explains who is the "villain" of the game and what is the "curse" of the Finches that I really recommend (Not the Game Theory one LOL).
One thing that the video talks about is how the curse of the family boils down to them being irresponsible and blaming fate instead of taking responsabilities.
We dont know how the baby felt at its last moments but the dad takes comfort in believing that the baby wasn't concerned at his imminent fate.
"Its" btw lmao
Today we learn Bae is Chaotic Good.
Always has been 🔫
Was that ever in question? I feel like the only real contenders for Neutral are Mumei and Kronii. Bae's ironically the only sane woman in Council at times.
And I feel Bae is the most family oriented in the Council
@@Birthday888 Mumei is definitely Chaotic Neutral while Kronii is more Lawful Neutral
@@Voldrim359 Have you SEEN what Kronii did to poor, innocent sandwiches? And you call that Lawful?
Just another reminder that Bae is actually (ironically, being "Chaos", supposedly, lol) by far the softest & most sentimental/emotional etc out of all of Holo-EN.... Even moreso THAN Fauna.
She's incredibly sensitive, & tender hearted, & it definitely shows (& sadly, causes her to get more upset) during times like this... 🥺
Being chaos means you know the chaotic nature of humans all too well.
Someone said she's sweet as pie. That is incorrect. Bae is the human incarnation of maple syrup. Sweetest little thing I know of.
It's like Towa's case all over again being TMT..
Unless it's about killing chimkens in RE, lol
Fauna is sweet, but she is suprisingly though when she needs to be. She is the kind of person that is emotional, yes, but will take care of you when needed, despite her own feelings. A really good friend to have.
I recall seeing that part of the game and being filled with visceral anger. Can't blame Bae for crying in the slightest, that entire sequence is just soul crushing
the entire game is
I'm glad fauna was there for her
Man this one hits close to home. Mind you this was 35 years ago so I am over it now but my new born sister drowned when I was 5 putting me in a 10 year depression till one day it just hit me. She would not want me to mourn for her death but to be happy. Oh and my parents are great parents, it was a family friend that put my sister to bed but had laid her on her stomach not her back. Moral of the story do not think about your misery but think about what your loved one would have wanted for you. Do not get me wrong cry, rage, get it all out of your system then think what would she/he want for me.
I am glad you think like that and got over it man, cant imaging how hard it was. All the best to your life ahead!
@@Owlcean Thank you and I am trying to live the best life I can for the both of us so I can tell her a wonderful story on the other side.
It doesn't feel like lying on your stomach would kill a baby. The idea of the guilt of accidentally killing a baby is horrible.
@@adrianaslund8605 newborns can barely lift their heads. They are fragile and helpless which is why their response to everything is to just cry until someone figures out what they need. Suffocating from a blanket or pillow happens a lot, which is why you don't put those things in a newborn's crib. Drowning or scalding from baths happens a lot because of distracted parents.
Bro this made me cry. I’m sorry for you loss and glad to hear you are better.
You can tell from the heart rates that Bae was calming down, but when Fauna noticed and acknowledged her sadness, it broke her composure and let her feels let loose ;^;
The fact that Bae has such a tender heart under all that chaotic Zoomer energy actually warms the cold, cynical one in my chest.
Like mother like daughter. Ollie and Bae both crazy both chaos but both always have a leak on their ceiling
Fauna's voice is so comforting, I just want her to talk to me forever
Whenever someone gets hit hard by media like this, you can instantly tell they are good and sensitive people at heart
But do you know how many times stuff like this, and worse, has happened throughout history? It hardens you man, just thinking about how evil, dark, sad, and messed up our history is. People used to literally dash infants against rocks (its in the bible, and other historical accounts corroborate it) when invading countries (not all the time obv, but still it happened at all) and burn infants to death in the white-hot hands of statues while the baby cried in agony.
You can't be a historian or a student of history without either being psycho, or so hard that you could be mistaken for one. Being the second doesn't make you a monster, it just makes you broken and scarred.
@BurningMan777 To be fair, tho, knowingly & intentionally killing babies is a slightly different source of anger than “to dumb to be left in the same room as a baby”.
@@StarboyXL9Life is not good or evil. It just is.
Good things happen, bad things happen too.
At the end the day, morals are just standards we ourselves set. A dart we throw on the wall.
Useful and important to reach, but not objective.
Again we set the standard, going below or above it, doesn't say anything objective about the world.
One can say, it's _because_ our ideals are so high, history seems so unbearably wretched.
We can either continually be depressed about something that by design, is an ever distant goal.
Or we can recognise, that higher or lower, it doesn't change our duty to continue to be better and leave the world better.
I love how different their reactions are. Bae is sobbing over the baby dying while Fauna is just furious at the parents.
Edit: I mostly found it inertesting since, considering their streaming personas (Bae being loud and angry while Fauna is soft spoken and meeker), you’d kind of expect it to be the other way around
Well yeah... That's the more logical emotion to feel... I would kill Kay too in my anger just for leaving a baby alone in the water (Saddly, kids on the range to 0 until 4 or 5 needs like 24hrs of attention, you can't leave them a minute alone without supervision)
@@Voldrim359 Funnily enough emotions around dead babies don't always follow the most logical path
@@Voldrim359 I would have beat the hell outta someone if I seen them leave their kid especially a baby in the water alone, I hate children but I would know better than to leave a child that is literally to young to do anything besides depend on their parent to take care of it in the water.
...did it not occur that her reaction might have an irl reason? This might've hit too close to home for her.
@@Voldrim359 I mean, both are equally logical emotions, it's just that Bae fixated on the tragedy of the baby's death, while Fauna fixated on the irresponsibility of the parents.
1:11 Bae: *sniffs*, Fauna: "owh", Fauna's heart rate: 90, 99, 103, 107
2:47 Bae: "can you imagine like a one and a half year old baby", Bae's heart rate: 93, 94, 95, 98, 99
Rage and sadness
Rage causes a faster heart rate than any form of sadness since it’s pumping more blood in order to enable the fighting part of the fight or flight instinct. Shows that the reactions are genuine to the characters. Bae is heartbroken, but Fauna is furious and ready to rip someone’s head off.
@@nikik5567 Chaos mourns and Nature is furious
@@ubermaster134 makes sense. The mom is acting in opposition to Nature, which dictates that the mother raise and protect her young until they’ve reached maturation, thus incurring Nature’s wrath. Chaos knows the terrible truth of sentient creatures however, and simply mourns the inevitable misuse of its powers by mankind to create terrible outcomes.
With Bae 99 is the highest she gets talking about this and you can tell it's because she's like struggling to say it. Fauna literally reacted to bae just hinting at crying. My God she's caring!
In a game full of sad stories, this one hurt the most too when I played it
Can we all appreciate Fauna being a pillar of best supporting friend buddy to sit with Bae
This is the literal "it's just a game, bro" moment
Poor Bae 😢
When your beloved streamer became emotional but held back valiantly....
This reminds me of a story my mom tells me often. She would tell me about an unmarked headstone in the backyard area of her apartment. It looks like a concrete cone. For a time it was used for the grave marker for my mom's sister, who was alive for a grand total of 6 hours after her birth. My mom never even got to meet her, but she still remembers her short-lived sister to this day.
You know you truly fucked up when a chaotic and cheerful person is sad and a calm and sweet person is angry....
Makes me sadge. Child neglect hits REALLY hard for me so I feel her.
I've never had a fear of drowning, but halfway through this one, just for a moment, I suddenly understood it very clearly
Drowning is a terrible experience, the fear and anxiety you feel at that moment is terrible, some jerk pushed me into the deepest part of the pool (2,5 m) and I was 1,60m and didn't knew how to swim less than how to float, fortunately the lifeguard saw that and it was solved pretty fast but the fear I had while I was sinking deeper and deeper felt like forever
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU I now want to fuck up the person that pushed you in
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU back when I was learning how to swim without floating my brother dunked me into the water while my dad had his back turned. Legit I was hanging on the edge and my brother legit grabbed me and shoved me under. Granted he didn't know I didn't have floaties on. So I was under for a solid minute or so unable to swim back up till my dad noticed and got me out. Being 4 years old you have a very small lung capacity and and I almost blacked out. I'm not afraid to go swimming or under water but you like force me under I panic
@@bman296 same, swimming has become an important part of my life for health reasons, heck I even passed the lifeguard tests with pretty good times
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU Was it really for you? I've gone under to the point of falling unconscious before. I didn't feel any fear or anxiety at all. And I am a very anxiety ridden person. I felt very calm. Nothing felt wrong at all. All I could really think of was to open my eyes and look at how different everything looked underwater. And, each time this happened to me, the amazement of how everything looked is all I recall experiencing before everything went black and I'd wake up somewhere else.
The finch family is cursed, but this is entirely on the mom here.
I saw a theory once that said "the curse is not real, its just something that came from the grieving mind of Edith Finch".
In essence, the family let the "curse" take hold of their life and mind, to the point that everyone on the family expected to die and just.. didn't care?
Some deaths are just accidental but a few are pure negligence.
Was it the curse thar built the child swing on a cliff? Or was it a stupid negligent decision?. Did the curse drown the baby or was it a mother's neglect.
Even the poem of how they say "the baby was probably happy in his last moments, so you should be happy too" when referring to how "it wasn't her fault, it was the curse" just puts more weight on the idea that they are just numb to it because its all that darn curse and not their fault.
There was never a "curse" is the point... It was a few accidents & a lot of negligence, stupidity, etc, with an unwillingness to accept any accountability for the fact lots of the deaths were clearly someone's fault...
Watching this live, I was a little bit surprised to see how hard Bae was taking that scene, poor Bae. Maybe it's because I might be a bit more desensitized to fictional trauma as I've grown up watching so many movies/shows with these kind of elements and have grown used to it over time. And it was Interesting to see Fauna being more angry at the parent for her incompetence than feeling sad. Of course, people react to these sort of things in different ways, and that's okay, I just found it interesting to witness.
Fauna mentioned listening to True Crime podcasts a lot
I think its just that different things hit different people. Like anohana is seen as incredibly sad but it didnt hit me at all because sad things about friends doesnt make me sad. On the other hand, the moment a parent does anything self sacrificing in media i'm tearing up. Themes of forgiveness can also make me cry.
Its really just on a person to person basis what gets to them.
@@snowbear8976 A lot of women do these days. I don't get it, honestly.
@GregariousGregor Why do you not get it? about 90% of sexual assault victims in the US are female
@@leonfire99 yeah Anohana was fine for me, but I've never cried as much as I did during A Place Further than the Universe. And I didn't bother even trying to watch Plastic Memories.
If I had only one super power right now, it would be the ability to crawl through this camera and give Bae a big hug.
I understood that reference
Well, now we at least know who is doing the baby bearing in the Baerys household
Wait, she has to bear the baby AND pay A Lemony?
That's rough.
Would you trust IRyS to supervise a child? I'm surprised she manages to find her house every day.
@@aerthreepwood8021 yeet the baby!
Amazing to think the God of Chaos will make a 100x better mother than the singing nephilim.
I hope Bae could get custody whenever they divorce. Never trust IRyS with baby after that Mother Simulation😨
'Video games cause violence'
Meanwhile, i'm watching Bae literally crying her soul out over this game and understandably so, all while Fauna gently reassures her like a good Mother.
Hope Bae is okay.
"surely they won't hit us with another one right?"
Devs: well....
Tbh, I don't normally cry when it comes to stuff like this. I recognize it as a game, and while the story makes me sad, I don't feel much emotional impact beyond that.
But when I see someone else cry or get emotional, I tend to do the same, like it's more real because someone else is feeling it.
Just to think that babies had drowned in tubs by negligence for real IRL it makes it even more upsetting.
Bae is precious and now I understand why horror games get to her so much.
Bae is such a sweet and gentle soul.
Moments like this really let you see how beautiful her heart is.
some of y'all maybe should be more like her. you know who you are.
Bae is good people. Fauna is good people too.
In this moment, the real Bae came through, and the fact that she was overwhelmed with what was a very sad and honest moment made me like her even more.
This rat is just the sweetest. 😭
Also I can never get enough of Fauna sass. 🤣
"Also I can never get enough of Fauna sass"
try saying that 10x but really fast
@@bmo3778 where is the lie though
Bae has so much empathy. I want to hug her :(
Awwwh. Bae is such a little sweetheart. For an embodiment of chaos, her heart is full of love. I just wanted to hold her and tell her everything was going to alright when she started crying. 🥺
Man... when I saw this live, I wanted to give Bae such a big hug. I'm exactly the same when it comes to infant deaths and I can't help but shed tears, because of how innocent they are.
At 2:20, Bae's little wail is so heart wrenching, I want to cry every time. 😔💔
I feel you bae my dog drowned while noonday was at home few years ago and I can't imagine how terrified it was to her😔
Bea is such a sweet heart that even Fauna looks cold in comparison.
Fauna is flaming hot in rage
Fauna was probably struggling not to go into a swear laden rant. Those were not amusement chuckles, those are "I'm chuckling because if I don't I'll probably get even angrier."
Fauna played Dota 2 ranked. Shes more hardened than folks think
@@Scuffed_Cirno Like a true mommy
Fauna only looks and sounds soft. She has a hardened center for sure.
Bae, though? She's got a gooey squishy heart. VERY emotive by comparison.
Angry Fauna and crying Bae, OOC is indeed serious business.
I’m glad she cried. Better let it out than just bottle it inside. Doesn’t matter if it was just a game, the emotion she felt was real.
Though my reaction would be same as Fauna’s.
The baby’s death was preventable, like who in their right mind leaves their baby alone in a bathtub that has a handle so light it can be turned with a toy frog? Bullshit.
Anyone who looks after children, specially babies, keep this in mind: NEVER LEAVE THEM UNATTENDED UNLESS PROPERLY SECURED.
This just showcases that Bae has a good heart.
Feels strange how fauna responded with anger from the start while Bae went from dread to sadness throughout the scene
Y'know something, that thing right there should serve as a reminder that not everyone should be a parent. Why on earth you would prioritise a phone call over your kid when they're in a bath with the taps on full I would never understand. we need more people like Bae and Fauna in the world, honestly XD
Well... according to the visuals, it was off and she drained the tub. But then also according to the visuals, a toy frog leapt out of the tub and turned the tap back on, so maybe we'll never know what really happened.
I'm not sure what happened since I don't know this game💀 the visuals show that She already turn It off and the drain still there🤨 how TF this still full
@@nyperold7530The visuals are just the babu’s imagination as he plays in the tub. He managed to turn the water on himself.
Seeing faunas heart rate rise after baes rising is crazy
Fauna getting nervous for her friend, just wanting her to be ok
It really goes to show the power that these moments have in both games and streaming where our emotions get the better of us. A very human moment.
It's hard to understand why someone would cry over a game, but I can explain.
As someone with similar disposition, it just means Bae has a big heart. Everything feels a lot more real and painful, but it also helps understand others better.
She's going to be a great mother someday.
No this looked like Bae was reliving something awful from her childhood. Her reaction came straight from her fucking core.
Oh man, Bae is so precious.. Imagine having an empathy so big that you literally cry at a video game. Not saying that not crying don't make you have empathy but Bae is just next level... Kusogaki is such a softbol inside. Love her
I didn't cry here because it is framed so comically. I think the first time I bawwed my eyes out was Planetarian and that's a freekin kinetic novel. Steins;Gate nailed me too. (If you don't see it coming, it is a gutpunch.)
@@starshade7826 I knew it was coming in Steins;Gate, but reading for like 30 hours and being incredibly invested made it hurt worse.
It's not the video game part that surprises me, some are very well written and after 30+ hours of engagement can have a big impact on people even if they don't have such empathy. It's the fact that there was 0 setup, and you know from the moment the mom walks away what's going to happen. All the usual storytelling elements that would make people cry are missing.
She probably has some IRL trauma about those types of things
@@starshade7826 Fruit of Grisaia, Michiru's route murdered me.
shes so sweet. i love her even more.
Hearing Bae sob is not something that is pleasurable to hear, even I kinda want a hug now
Bae deserves all the love and fauna deserves the best mom of the year award 🥹
So this is the "chaos" of hololive, pretty cute huh
I saw a fan theory that Bae is the REAL guardian of civilization, and Mumei, who is actually the avatar of chaos, has tricked Bae into thinking that Bae is chaos as a prank. This scene...really feeds into that headcanon for me. So many feels for innocent human life and the misuse of technologies. Bae is such a responsible, empathetic leader of the Council!
It's the exact same how I fely with "That Dragon, Cancer."
it's so hard... I nearly drowned in a river whirlpool when kiddo. but this, man, this is hard.
"One of my biggest fears is drowning", then you listen to her DROWN song, and the lyrics just hit different...
Fauna:I'm surely they won't hit us with another one right? Right...
You guys been hypnotized by the game the player is the one who controlling the scenario through their final destination without a choice 💀💀 dang it game.
This is such a sad and real thing that could happen, I’m glad we each have a loving mom that cares for us, this will always remain as a very sad and real thing that can happen in the world
Poor Bae, it's just a game don't worry
It's just pixel, pixel can't hurt you
@@Owlcean not physically. But pixels have hurt me emotionally many times.
whats sad about this though is that shit liek this probably happens a lot in real life
@@hayatojin2886 yeah and still angry for the people that responsible
Everytime that kids die in games hurts me a lot
Somebody give that rat a hug.
I'm so glad Fauna Was With Bae at that time when they were watching this unsettling cut scene in the game. There's really no doubt she's Mother Nature. Bravo, Fauna. Bravo!
That "whatever dude" had real wicked witch of the east vibes
When I first played this I was also crying and had to take a break for a few days xD
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone not get emotional over that specific scene in this game
Oww poor Bae... She's so pure...
What I noticed is Fauna's natural response was that of a caring mother towards Bae. Is Fauna actually mother nature IRL?
No, because nature is uncaring/indifferent.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 well, uncaring to us anyway. But maybe caring to those she view equal in power, like chaos.
@@flordelphinta But very, *very* unkind to rats :-p but yeah, perhaps if nature was able to embody as a sentient being it would find friendship in other supernatural beings.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 nature loves rats, they can eat almost anything, survive in the worst of places, are highly intelligent animals, and are unaffected by many diseases.
Its human civilisation that is cruel to rats
@@kenjutsukata1o1 Compared to the rest of the universe, I'd say mother nature is pretty damn caring. try mother endless void of space or mother supermassive black hole.
i think she handled it pretty well, that was really messed up
As chaotic as Bae is, she's still a very gentle person. I'm glad Fauna was there to be emotional support ❤
I find it very hard to get sad most of the time, but this just hurts my soul to no end, so it isn't surprising to see someone genuinely breakdown even if it's fictional
You ever just wanna reach into the screen and give someone a damn shoulder to cry on?
SOMEBODY GET THAT RAT A HUG
It also made me emotional since I have a son and I love him so much
Theres another one, its related to beastie where shes telling on stream what has happened and all and while she did there was a moment she had to stop tried to continue but couldn’t trying to hold it
I…
*What happened to beastie.*
Wait what happened?
Don't worry, Beastie is fine. She felt that the condition at home wasn't best for Beastie so she had to give him away. But she still misses him a lot and cried on stream.
@@sine982 aaw man :'(
Fauna is a champ for presenting the opportunity to step away multiple times. Blessed
Dude I literally just wanted to wrap Bae in a bear hug hearing her break down like that. 🥺
Totally understandable why she was upset, child neglect is VERY upsetting even if it IS fictional
You know a vtuber’s sad when they don’t change their model expression because they’re too busy crying.
legit cried when i saw this live.
their motherly instincts were kicking hard,
poor bae....man she needs to know that were all here for her and that she can let it out on us and we will help her through life and its hell hole
I like Fauna has some Fury inside of her, more than Bae when you thought Bae is the raging bull.
Calvin jumps off a swing that is positioned facing a cliff, Molly ate the poisonous mistletoe berries left hanging outside her bedroom, Gus gets crushed by debris while flying a kite in a storm and refusing to go inside, Sam gets punted off a cliff by a deer he shot and was trying to take a photo of, Walter takes a walk on some train tracks, and little Gregory is left alone in a bathtub.
I'm pretty sure the Finch Family Curse is that they're a buncha FOKKIN IDIOTS.
"it just a game" they said, then i remember ghost and soap..man
The soap is really masterpiece 👌🏻
"It's just a game" they said.
And I'm gonna kill Sheperd in MW3 right now after he kill Ghost. And you said Soap gonna die?
Man....
I can’t forgive General Shepherd when he said “That’s one less loose end” unexpectedly. :(
wow this actually make me tear up omg that was sad though hearing her cry just made me almost lose it
"It's just a game" But sometimes the story, the scene, it just hits too hard.
True dat
I hear that and then said same person will cry at a book or tv show like somehow a game is less valid despite you being *more* involved than a tv show since *you* have to progress it
Games are just stories, and stories are made to make us feel. anyone who waves away a sad movie with the phrase "it's just a movie" hasn't understood the purpose of fiction.
ah my GOD man i can just imagine fauna desperately hoping this was an off collab so she could give Bae a hug...
Dammit, shouldn't have clicked probably... Hearing someone else cry sets off my empathy so hard it literally hurts. 😢
And yet I clicked again. WHY DO I DO THAT TO MYSELF
Bae is so sweet. Hope we can all meet someone someday who can empathize like this ❤
Yeah that scene is really fucked up. I was genuinely disgusted even tho it's just a game. I wanted to hug Bae so bad when she did start crying like that 😢
Second time seeing this clip and again I have to say this is so sweet seeing Bae being an absolute softie.
We all need a Emotional Support Fauna in our lives.
i sob super hard everytime i see that scene. it's incredibly upsetting cause it was just a baby and he passed due to parental negligence 😢😢 I'm not a father yet but that sh*t TERRIFIES me so hard that i'll end up accidentally losing my baby
1:57 - Fauna immediately realizing that Bae was having a hard time. That’s friendship right there.
The ceiling is in danger..
Edit: who am I kidding, the ceiling is definitely leaking.
This is right up there when lady Salome frome nijisanji broke down after beating resident evil 7.
Who will say it, that The most seiso and kindheart of council would be the Chaos... It was nice to see this face of Bae, very touching
I distant relative had a baby talking like 15+ years ago, can't remember if it was less than a year old or so. I believe they lived in an apartment, the door to the balcony was left slightly open, the baby crawled onto the balcony and fell off and died. You can't let your eyes off of kids that young unless you know they're enclosed in a room with 4 walls, not on something they can can fall out of and with furniture that is nailed to the wall, lots of kids die from furniture not nailed to the wall that fall on the like tv, dressers... better yet have no heavy furniture in their room till they're old enough.