@JonGadget NASA. lying since 1958. That aside, This technology seems poorly thought out , as your body temperature will cause the aero gel insulation to shrink , only the very outer freezing cold layer will be rigid ...... right ? Also DOWN is now Far outclassed by buffalo systems aquatherm extreme pile which retains over 95% of it's isulation capability WHEN SOAKING WET . And can be stored fully compressed for decades without affecting the performance... My buffalo sleep system is rated to below the coldest temperatures ever recorded on earth WET OR DRY . Vastly Out performs feathered friends, carinthia, exped ultra ,wiggys, etc.etc.etc ... Made in sheffield . I'm a massive fan of your videos Jon As far as survival gear goes my 3 priorities are Performance Performance Performance
I like the cut of their clothes, their stuff looks well proportioned and well fitting. Very smart!! A tad too expensive for me these days but I love the idea of using high tech materials, so I'm not knocking the price. Thanks for introducing them. Cheers! 👋
They tried this material on Everest accents in boots and gloves, the only minor complaint was it was too hot, given the environment, it was better than being cold or frozen.
love seeing adventurous uses of crazy materials that the average person can get their hands on. I have some misgivings about the longevity of the tiny aerogel tubes, especially considering the jacket's price point, but I don't live in a climate where it would be practical, so I won't fuss about it
Great Video as always. Iv been using this material for around 4 years and as you rightly say it’s used for insulating pipelines to elevate the waxing that occurs with colder temperatures. A very interesting product thanks for sharing
If you ask nicely at your local Tesco or Sainsbury’s, I’m sure they’d let you pop into their walk-in deep freezer in their back room. Those can get down to as cold as -20° to -30° C.
Thank you. I really enjoy your videos! I am trying to pull together a personal item carry-on bag (one that will fit under the seat in front so, 18 x 14 x 8) with a collection of nifty travel accessories with an emphasis on safety. This will be a graduation gift for my niece. I want to do everything I can to encourage her to travel! I would love it if you would do a video on this. My budget is about $200.
seems cool and techincal - but cant help wondering that if the external temprature gets cold enough to shink the air inside the aerogel to make it do the things then its go to be cold enough to cool the warmed/insulating air inside the tubes ???
Sorry to be nitpicky, but isn't fill power essentially a measurement of loft density? When you say the insulation varies between mimicking 650fp to 900fp, doesn't that just indicate the change in volume of the insulation? If so, the heat retained won't necessarily vary as much people might think from the two numbers stated. A badly designed jacket with 900fp might keep you much less warm than a better designed jacket with 600fp down. I'd be very interested to know how the jacket performs at keeping simulated bodies warm in different temperatures; I know some testers do things like putting heated mannequins in chest freezers, and measuring energy loss. But TBH, you're probably not going to be able to properly run these tests until after the kickstarter has completed, unfortunately.
Not volume, loft. But you’re correct in that fp doesn’t by itself determine insulation or warmth. For example, how about simply weight or how much down is stuffed into the jacket?
Hi! I was researching the Nomand(e) Waterproof Jacket, but I saw some reviews saying that it is not resistant neither warm, being only a pretty expensive rain jacket. You also own one, right? What are your thoughts about it?
Is the weight similar to a heavy puffer? Unless there's a weight benefit with their tech, I don't see the point of 2in1. I have a spring puffer with 650+ and a winter with 850 down infill. Don't see the need of a 2in1. I guess in Europe some places are very strange with weather, but %90 percent of the world it's not really needed. Cool tech for areas that it's useful and someone who wants to buy once cry once for their down jacket, fit is also nice as another commenter noted. How long will that expansion aerogel tech expand contract? Is there a warranty in case it stops?
I beleive he is going on about it sounds like inchulator when you say it with your accent. In America we pronounce it more like sole of a shoe insolate trying to spell it out as heard not said.
@@matthewsobotka1438 Yeah, I was just curious. I didn't know till I started watching gear channels that "aluminum" (the way Americans say it) is said as "aluminium" in the UK. I just wondered if Jon's way of saying "insulation" is the most common way to say it over there.
Just what you need for a British summer.
Due to be delivered in the Autumn - planning ahead!
@JonGadget
NASA.
lying since 1958.
That aside,
This technology seems poorly thought out ,
as your body temperature will cause the aero gel insulation to shrink , only the very outer freezing cold layer will be rigid ...... right ?
Also
DOWN is now
Far outclassed by buffalo systems aquatherm extreme pile which retains over 95% of it's isulation capability WHEN SOAKING WET .
And can be stored fully compressed for decades without affecting the performance...
My buffalo sleep system is rated to below the coldest temperatures ever recorded on earth WET OR DRY .
Vastly
Out performs feathered friends, carinthia, exped ultra ,wiggys, etc.etc.etc ...
Made in sheffield .
I'm a massive fan of your videos Jon
As far as survival gear goes my 3 priorities are
Performance
Performance
Performance
I like the cut of their clothes, their stuff looks well proportioned and well fitting. Very smart!! A tad too expensive for me these days but I love the idea of using high tech materials, so I'm not knocking the price. Thanks for introducing them. Cheers! 👋
They tried this material on Everest accents in boots and gloves, the only minor complaint was it was too hot, given the environment, it was better than being cold or frozen.
love seeing adventurous uses of crazy materials that the average person can get their hands on. I have some misgivings about the longevity of the tiny aerogel tubes, especially considering the jacket's price point, but I don't live in a climate where it would be practical, so I won't fuss about it
Great Video as always.
Iv been using this material for around 4 years and as you rightly say it’s used for insulating pipelines to elevate the waxing that occurs with colder temperatures.
A very interesting product thanks for sharing
If you ask nicely at your local Tesco or Sainsbury’s, I’m sure they’d let you pop into their walk-in deep freezer in their back room. Those can get down to as cold as -20° to -30° C.
Thank you. I really enjoy your videos! I am trying to pull together a personal item carry-on bag (one that will fit under the seat in front so, 18 x 14 x 8) with a collection of nifty travel accessories with an emphasis on safety. This will be a graduation gift for my niece. I want to do everything I can to encourage her to travel! I would love it if you would do a video on this. My budget is about $200.
If it delivers on all its promises this is not an expensive jacket. It looks really cool and practical. Curious to see the full review .
Could we get a Surge vs Arc video?
This is some Back To The Future Part 2 shit. Nice!
Very interesting. Thanks for the info.
seems cool and techincal - but cant help wondering that if the external temprature gets cold enough to shink the air inside the aerogel to make it do the things then its go to be cold enough to cool the warmed/insulating air inside the tubes ???
Have u checked out the lighter bro lighter? Should review it
Sorry to be nitpicky, but isn't fill power essentially a measurement of loft density?
When you say the insulation varies between mimicking 650fp to 900fp, doesn't that just indicate the change in volume of the insulation?
If so, the heat retained won't necessarily vary as much people might think from the two numbers stated. A badly designed jacket with 900fp might keep you much less warm than a better designed jacket with 600fp down.
I'd be very interested to know how the jacket performs at keeping simulated bodies warm in different temperatures; I know some testers do things like putting heated mannequins in chest freezers, and measuring energy loss. But TBH, you're probably not going to be able to properly run these tests until after the kickstarter has completed, unfortunately.
Not volume, loft. But you’re correct in that fp doesn’t by itself determine insulation or warmth. For example, how about simply weight or how much down is stuffed into the jacket?
True, FP indicates the quality of the down. It is how grams of down, together wit the FP quality that gives an idea of the insulation….
@@lambamthankyoumaamIs loft the opposite of density then? Volume filled by a given weight?
... How do I wash it?
Could you not have found a walk in freezer to test this?
Pretty interesting
Are there no walk-in freezers you could visit?
I did consider trying to find one but ran out of time.
That's a bit of a cop out.
I think that's the first thing I would have found.
Great video mate
Hi! I was researching the Nomand(e) Waterproof Jacket, but I saw some reviews saying that it is not resistant neither warm, being only a pretty expensive rain jacket. You also own one, right? What are your thoughts about it?
Is the weight similar to a heavy puffer? Unless there's a weight benefit with their tech, I don't see the point of 2in1. I have a spring puffer with 650+ and a winter with 850 down infill. Don't see the need of a 2in1. I guess in Europe some places are very strange with weather, but %90 percent of the world it's not really needed. Cool tech for areas that it's useful and someone who wants to buy once cry once for their down jacket, fit is also nice as another commenter noted. How long will that expansion aerogel tech expand contract? Is there a warranty in case it stops?
If its too warm in your fpv 900 just open the thing lol.
Is that how "insulate" is pronounced in the UK, or just your way?
Er...not sure. How do you pronounce it?
I beleive he is going on about it sounds like inchulator when you say it with your accent. In America we pronounce it more like sole of a shoe insolate trying to spell it out as heard not said.
Yes, that is how we say it generally. You might get a 'ss' sound down south, but saying in-shoe-late is pretty normal over here.
@@matthewsobotka1438 Yeah, I was just curious. I didn't know till I started watching gear channels that "aluminum" (the way Americans say it) is said as "aluminium" in the UK. I just wondered if Jon's way of saying "insulation" is the most common way to say it over there.
@@FireBird7766 Thanks for the answer.
Least obvious money grab add by Jon Gadget
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