If gentrification happens organically, I'm ok with it, but if a city pushes along gentrification, they need to ensure plenty of units are affordable, and I'm not talking about 10%, either.
@@Wedontcareong can someone stake claim to a piece of dirt if they can no longer afford it? There several areas I’d like to live but I don’t have the means.
I lived in Crown Heights for a while back in 2005. It would be very interesting to go back and see how it has changed. I was struck by the segregation, one side of Eastern Parkway was a fairly upscale Hasidic Jewish neighborhood and the other side was a quite poor mostly Caribbean immigrant neighborhood.
I'm 56 years old, from Brooklyn. Grew up in Bed-Stuy/Tompkins Houses, next to Sumner and Jay-Z's Marcy Houses. Mother and stepfather moved to The Junction (Flatbush/Nostrand Avs), when I was in college (1987). I moved out after college, to Park Slope; stayed there for 15 years (92-2007, before moving to the Bronx (affordable condo in Parkchester. Been here for 17 years). As for Brooklyn, the elders in my neighborhood, growing up, predicted this, in the mid 80s! Us teenagers laughed at them, with the crack pipes laid all over Tompkins Avenue!
What I find interesting is that none of these neighborhoods are in South Brooklyn. I think that comes down to three reasons. First, in south Brooklyn there tends to be more homeowners and locally owned businesses. Next, it is located further away from Manhattan making it less attractive to those who commute into Manhattan. Lastly, there isn’t really any formerly industrial land aside from in Sunset Park, and rezoning non industrial land is very complicated.
@@cities4ppl yeah I’ve seen people say it’s getting gentrified because of all the Chinese people coming in, but that’s just an ethnic demographic shift. It is still mostly the same economic demographics, albeit with somewhat higher incomes these days.
Absolutely true, I have often wondered why all those people coming to BK not living in area's such as Queens, Howard Beach, Bensonhurst, Marine Pk, they have trsnsport links to Manhattan as well, very puzzling to me, u move into a predominantly Caribbean area, yet u don't want to interact with the people or start to weaponize the police on them with noise complaints!🤔
@@lunalea1250 because neighborhoods like Bensonhurst and Bath Beach cater to families and the middle class rather than young professionals. The demographics may have shifted from mostly Italian to mostly Chinese with a significant Russian presence as well, but economically the income levels stayed relatively the same. These neighborhoods are also much further out from Manhattan so that might be something to consider
@@Not_Sal U can delete comments that states "inconvenient truths" all u like, facts are still facts, they won't come to those areas because they know their "brand of domination" will not be tolerated, they target "marginalised" communities! 🤥
The issue with gentrification is not the ‘inevitability’. It’s the DISPLACEMENT that doesn’t preserve or renew for generations of residents. They get pushed into communities where the gentrification doesn’t seem to expand to or spread. Like Brownsville and parts of East NY. Zip codes 11212 and neighboring areas.
Ok but not Brooklyn heights? the most expensive neighborhood there where ed sheeran rents a place for like, 30,000 a month or something? Or downtown brooklyn which is completely unrecognizeable physically and socially from what it was even when park slope and clinton hill were gentrifying. DUMBO? used to be factories than an artists enclave now just an enclave for assholes? I feel like, this is just "neighborhoods in the process of gentirification since 2010" not "most gentrified neighborhoods in brooklyn" b/c the process of gentrification in brooklyn has deeper roots than just going along the J train
lowkey this feels confrontational, which i kinda meant it to be, (even tho ur vids r fun ofc), this topic is just too simplified in this vid to express the intense loss of culture wrought by genntrification's takeover of the nothwestern half of brooklyn. Still, keep makin vids tho they aren't bad, and i'll keep bein critical (hopefully in a useful way)
Haha thanks. Yes It is semi intentionally controversial. There will be neighborhoods who people believe deserve to be on the list over the ones I chose. This is only the second video I’ve done like this so I’ll keep getting better 😉
@@nunya990I find the ignoring of black and brown existence, the gate keeping of rent controlled units between rich white NYU girls, and the affordable housing lottery too all be a phlegm spit in my Puerto Rican native New Yorker American born face. They are the lowest of whites in this country, lower than West Virginia. They have enforced superiority complex’s in almost every avenue and the skepticism or distrust from native POCs is 💯 % welcome
Thank you. I’m working on that. It’s a lot of info to gather and produce. I don’t want to get too much into details and anecdotes but right now I’m not doing enough.
Great video! However I don't feel Park Slope should be on the top list of gentrified neighborhoods, it's always been fairly upscale but over the last decade, it has become the most expensive nabe in Kings County. I think I might have included Red Hook instead.
You could not be more incorrect. Specify which parts. The “Gold Coast” historic district of park slope 7-Prospect park west (9th ave) from Grand Army to 14st (where pavilion was now nighthawk) was predominantly old money but not all. Most of park slope was working class Irish, Italian and Puerto Rican. Puerto were mainly found in the lower avenues (2nd-6th ave) as well many working class black families. A pseudo section park slope was even coined as “Dark Slope” in the 90s. Park slope is the quintessential pioneer of gentrification in Bk, with a heavy emphasis on removing Puerto Ricans who were most vulnerable. Many owned those brownstones and were manipulated into selling for low cost.
@@cities4pplspecifically the Neo liberal pretentious persona that many new incoming whites worship/abide by was started in park slope, boreum hill and the upper west. Park slope is the quintessential Mecca of the YUPPIE identity. That identity has evolved into the personalities we see in bushwick and Williamsburg who are non native. Essentially, the wokeness of park slope is the epitome of white American supremacy.
If gentrification happens organically, I'm ok with it, but if a city pushes along gentrification, they need to ensure plenty of units are affordable, and I'm not talking about 10%, either.
Agreed!
nah
developers will always lie to get on people's side just like the useless politicians who have been elected since 2013
Can you discuss prospect lefferts gardens?
Can you do Philadelphia?
It’s on the list!
If I'm not wrong, after accounting for inflation, hasn't Crown Heights' median household income actually gone _down_ since 2000?
Sometimes the census data seems off.
gentrification is good
I think you can easily make that case.
Who is it good for? Its not good for the people who can no longer afford to live there
Sure it's good for people who have a lot of money, not so good for people who are pushed out of the neighborhood.
@@dijikstra8so then it’s not good?
@@Wedontcareong can someone stake claim to a piece of dirt if they can no longer afford it? There several areas I’d like to live but I don’t have the means.
I lived in Crown Heights for a while back in 2005. It would be very interesting to go back and see how it has changed. I was struck by the segregation, one side of Eastern Parkway was a fairly upscale Hasidic Jewish neighborhood and the other side was a quite poor mostly Caribbean immigrant neighborhood.
2005?! Oh yeah you need to go back and experience the transformation for yourself.
I'm 56 years old, from Brooklyn. Grew up in Bed-Stuy/Tompkins Houses, next to Sumner and Jay-Z's Marcy Houses. Mother and stepfather moved to The Junction (Flatbush/Nostrand Avs), when I was in college (1987). I moved out after college, to Park Slope; stayed there for 15 years (92-2007, before moving to the Bronx (affordable condo in Parkchester. Been here for 17 years). As for Brooklyn, the elders in my neighborhood, growing up, predicted this, in the mid 80s! Us teenagers laughed at them, with the crack pipes laid all over Tompkins Avenue!
The biggest lie of gentrification: “affordable housing”. 2500 a month is not affordable, just because the other units are 4000.
What I find interesting is that none of these neighborhoods are in South Brooklyn. I think that comes down to three reasons. First, in south Brooklyn there tends to be more homeowners and locally owned businesses. Next, it is located further away from Manhattan making it less attractive to those who commute into Manhattan. Lastly, there isn’t really any formerly industrial land aside from in Sunset Park, and rezoning non industrial land is very complicated.
I think you nailed it, my man.
@@cities4ppl yeah I’ve seen people say it’s getting gentrified because of all the Chinese people coming in, but that’s just an ethnic demographic shift. It is still mostly the same economic demographics, albeit with somewhat higher incomes these days.
Absolutely true, I have often wondered why all those people coming to BK not living in area's such as Queens, Howard Beach, Bensonhurst, Marine Pk, they have trsnsport links to Manhattan as well, very puzzling to me, u move into a predominantly Caribbean area, yet u don't want to interact with the people or start to weaponize the police on them with noise complaints!🤔
@@lunalea1250 because neighborhoods like Bensonhurst and Bath Beach cater to families and the middle class rather than young professionals. The demographics may have shifted from mostly Italian to mostly Chinese with a significant Russian presence as well, but economically the income levels stayed relatively the same. These neighborhoods are also much further out from Manhattan so that might be something to consider
@@Not_Sal U can delete comments that states "inconvenient truths" all u like, facts are still facts, they won't come to those areas because they know their "brand of domination" will not be tolerated, they target "marginalised" communities! 🤥
The issue with gentrification is not the ‘inevitability’. It’s the DISPLACEMENT that doesn’t preserve or renew for generations of residents. They get pushed into communities where the gentrification doesn’t seem to expand to or spread. Like Brownsville and parts of East NY. Zip codes 11212 and neighboring areas.
You meant degenerates?
Ok but not Brooklyn heights? the most expensive neighborhood there where ed sheeran rents a place for like, 30,000 a month or something? Or downtown brooklyn which is completely unrecognizeable physically and socially from what it was even when park slope and clinton hill were gentrifying. DUMBO? used to be factories than an artists enclave now just an enclave for assholes? I feel like, this is just "neighborhoods in the process of gentirification since 2010" not "most gentrified neighborhoods in brooklyn" b/c the process of gentrification in brooklyn has deeper roots than just going along the J train
lowkey this feels confrontational, which i kinda meant it to be, (even tho ur vids r fun ofc), this topic is just too simplified in this vid to express the intense loss of culture wrought by genntrification's takeover of the nothwestern half of brooklyn.
Still, keep makin vids tho they aren't bad, and i'll keep bein critical (hopefully in a useful way)
Especially downtown brooklyn it so different
Haha thanks. Yes It is semi intentionally controversial. There will be neighborhoods who people believe deserve to be on the list over the ones I chose. This is only the second video I’ve done like this so I’ll keep getting better 😉
@@nunya990I find the ignoring of black and brown existence, the gate keeping of rent controlled units between rich white NYU girls, and the affordable housing lottery too all be a phlegm spit in my Puerto Rican native New Yorker American born face. They are the lowest of whites in this country, lower than West Virginia. They have enforced superiority complex’s in almost every avenue and the skepticism or distrust from native POCs is 💯 % welcome
Flatbush, how sad i
I really like your videos. I just wish they were longer with a little more detail.
Thank you. I’m working on that. It’s a lot of info to gather and produce. I don’t want to get too much into details and anecdotes but right now I’m not doing enough.
I think he goes into a decent amount of detail but I agree. I do wish his videos were longer
@@bigdawggkev thank you for the feedback.
Need Canarsie 😂
Shout out to me (John L)! 🤓The gentrification sure is encroaching on Flatbush. Fascinating to watch.
Haha let’s go!
The DUMBO area is by far the biggest transformation.
Yeah for some reason I figured that was so obvious that I skipped it.
OMG if we can't keep good jobs in the city whats the point of all this.
It’s a fast moving world.
Great video! However I don't feel Park Slope should be on the top list of gentrified neighborhoods, it's always been fairly upscale but over the last decade, it has become the most expensive nabe in Kings County. I think I might have included Red Hook instead.
Fair enough. I try to include an outlier but you’re right, probably doesn’t qualify as “gentrified”.
You could not be more incorrect. Specify which parts. The “Gold Coast” historic district of park slope 7-Prospect park west (9th ave) from Grand Army to 14st (where pavilion was now nighthawk) was predominantly old money but not all. Most of park slope was working class Irish, Italian and Puerto Rican. Puerto were mainly found in the lower avenues (2nd-6th ave) as well many working class black families. A pseudo section park slope was even coined as “Dark Slope” in the 90s. Park slope is the quintessential pioneer of gentrification in Bk, with a heavy emphasis on removing Puerto Ricans who were most vulnerable. Many owned those brownstones and were manipulated into selling for low cost.
@@cities4pplspecifically the Neo liberal pretentious persona that many new incoming whites worship/abide by was started in park slope, boreum hill and the upper west. Park slope is the quintessential Mecca of the YUPPIE identity. That identity has evolved into the personalities we see in bushwick and Williamsburg who are non native. Essentially, the wokeness of park slope is the epitome of white American supremacy.
Look up the Bar OLD CARRIAGE INN on 8th st 7th ave, it’s now variety coffee roasters. Park slope sunset red hook are traditional “towny” areas.