Jeep Compass: Crank, No Start - Part I

[@scottyakoubian9238]

Replaced my wife’s power steering pressure hose yesterday (03 Odyssey). Kept thinking to myself, Eric says “if I can do it, you can do it.” Sometimes yes, but it always takes 5 times longer than it should. I also cuss a lot more than you. Thanks for all you do! Always in awe of your skill.

[@uzaiyaro]

Everyone is slow at first. After the first time it gets a lot faster, and from there there's nowhere to go but down. Speed is not indicative of skill, it's indicative of, well, you've not done it before!

[@Mytwistedvoices]

I have been a mechanic over 20 years. If it's done right, it was worth the time, anything can be broken quickly.

[@tomtke7351]

And, you know, when disassembling complex devices it helps to TAKE DISASSEMBLY PICTURES. Hmmm.

[@roberterdei8627]

Another quality Chrysler product, keeping North American mechanics and towing companies working since whatever date Chrysler was founded...

[@bertoltb1358]

“I know it’s windy as heck, deal with it!” A man confident in his followers dedication.
Keep up the good work Mr O.

[@Spector_NS5_RD]

3:44 Let's get a Fleshlight? Seems an odd tool choice to diagnose an electrical issue. ;)

[@dannyyu2932]

The scanner computer used in the video: amzn.to/2H3l6dt Autel MK908 Ultimate Wireless Automotive Scan Tool with ADAS, ECU Coding, Full Bi-Directional Control, ABS Brake Bleed, OE-Level All Systems Diagnosis

[@peterl6095]

Yeah. Lol.

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

What a genius location for a relay box, low in the engine compartment! No wonder Jeeps are plagued with problems!

[@Watcher3223]

Depends on the Jeep ... which isn't saying much, especially if you're talking about something that was "quality engineered" and made by Chrysler.

[@zombieblaster5754]

Hey, you gotta oil your relays somehow

[@pastblast1664]

Engineered failure designed to produce revenue streams. Keeps America working! And consumers pockets empty! (c;=

[@oldhvacguy8427]

I am not sensitive, but I always complain anyway. My late wife called me the "chronic malcontent". Love your vids and the STUFF you put up with to share your knowledge.

[@dannyyu2932]

The scanner computer used in the video: amzn.to/2H3l6dt Autel MK908 Ultimate Wireless Automotive Scan Tool with ADAS, ECU Coding, Full Bi-Directional Control, ABS Brake Bleed, OE-Level All Systems Diagnosis

[@northerntranquility1614]

Can't thank you enough because of your video ,I'm up and running .I talked to a few garages before I saw your video ,would even give me a clue about jeep relay problems. I THOUGHT fuel pump problem ,neutral safty switch ,I was checking everything .Thanks to people like you posting I've still got money in my pocket for coffee and my wheels are rolling .Thanks so much for all your posting . I'm one happy camper. Keep up the fantastic work

[@aussiefirestorm]

Probably not the first to say it but I am blown away by your diagnostic skills

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

Funny you mention blown away, seeing as comments were made about gale force winds and seeing Dorothy and Toto blow by 😂😂😂😂

[@adammock3455]

Dude you absolutely saved me and my buddy we were camping in the most back @$$ place in pa and his jeep died what little cell service we had we found your video ended up making a jumper out of an old piece of Romex we found beaten down with a ratchet over a stump... got us home🤙

[@chicagophoneguy]

Finally! A real swear word! Oh God, it's like a sneeze that finally came out!

[@TeachFK_Gaming]

I had to go back and listen to it again. I wasn't really sure I heard it right

[@mrjaw1412]

History was made at 8:12

[@dpdevil16]

This SMA video was brought to you by gale force winds and the rarest of 4-letter words.

[@jix177]

Haha yes, after I don't know how many years that's the first time I've heard a swear here. So he is human after all! I take it we're all going to unsubscribe and flag this video, lol.

[@kevinoscarson2941]

I laughed...not because of the curse, but from the dropped relay...im a tech its very funny when it happens to someone else!

[@joecuevas6368]

U save my life, I had my 2016 compass junked for three weeks and this pandemic made everything impossible to get it service. My brother help me and we found that the gas pump was working yet not spark on the ignition coils. Your video was savior. We swapped the relay and on it was on the first try. In my case it was grim and dirt on the relays contacts. No sign of corrosion on the connections we tested all the relays and they all work, gave them a good clean.

[@2405jacko]

There's your problem, lady. It's a Chrysler.

[@scowell]

Fiat!

[@2405jacko]

@@scowell That's what I meant. Sorry.

[@upliftmofopartyplan1156]

Fix it again Tony

[@dnlmachine4287]

"Lets put an electrical junction box in the wheel well. GOOD IDEA!!!"
Thanks Mr O. for another great vid.
Stay gold.

[@KyGun]

"Flesh Light"? LMAO 3:44. Once again great video. :-)

[@langer24106]

KyBigGuns lol glad it wasn’t just me!

[@sum42guy2k]

I think that is what he said..... someone needs to get some more “sleep”

[@SamSneed001]

I looked it up... :o

[@dannyyu2932]

The scanner computer used in the video: amzn.to/2H3l6dt Autel MK908 Ultimate Wireless Automotive Scan Tool with ADAS, ECU Coding, Full Bi-Directional Control, ABS Brake Bleed, OE-Level All Systems Diagnosis

[@MegaDysart]

@@dannyyu2932 very cool danny yu, thank you!

[@drsnyder861]

my dad is having some issues with his jeep compass. finally, i said. i bet you my good ol boy up there at south main auto knows exactly what the problem is. same exact thing. you guys are awesome!!

[@SteveJones-fv7kf]

Up Late 4 AM but I always love your videos I always learn something from you Eric o.You’re lucky dude and A hard worker.

[@MaxRideAE]

Thanks for the video, this was my girlfriend's exact problem. Not sure how to fix it yet but at least we aren't towing the thing. Simple pigtail jumper and it cranks right up

[@scowell]

Eric, they make small stick-on windscreens, Micover is one brand. Tryna help!

[@MentalPolution]

thanks for the help. ive had my jeep sitting for a couple months and was getting a crank no start. turns out it was the corrosion on the relays and I found them thanks to your video.

[@av8tore71]

Eric O. A HUGE thank you for posting this video because this is the very same issue I'm having with my son's 2015 Jeep Patriot with the powerful 2.4L so it looks like the same engine compartment you have in this video as my son's Jeep. I'll have to see what you come up with in PT 2. Again THANKS!!
It must be a Jeep thing or a Belvidere, IL where this Jeep and my son's Jeep was made

[@davidhamm5626]

Belvidere has seen good times , and some reall rough ones too!

[@av8tore71]

@@davidhamm5626 yes Sir just like now, they just laid off a bunch and how they did it was over the phone automated. I used to work at the Belvidere Assembly Plant back in the late 1980's when they we're building the New Yorker and Dynasty. I quit because my stepdad who worked in "Material" always tried being my boss lol so I joined the Army. Stayed active until 2008 with 21 years and now I'm a Sheriff's Deputy near Rockford, IL

[@av8tore71]

@@davidhamm5626 you sound like you are familiar with the area

[@davidhamm5626]

Yes I grew up in Rockford ! My oldest sister worked there, during the ' 60's and '70's. She was much older than me , so I only saw her on occasion , but I remember her working with the vynal tops, she brought one home , to show us how they would go one a car!
I do remember that she did not seem to be happy, but being a kid it did not make sense.
My father told me that the '54 Belvidere he had then was made there, and I was amazed.
I left Rockford in 1977,and moved to Colorado, but every time I see someone talking about the old stomping grounds, i chime in.
Have a good day everyone.

[@ThePracticalMechanic]

Nothing worse than wind. I don’t think I have ever seen one of those relay boxes corrode like that here in Colorado. It’s normally just a tipm failure. Nice work Eric O.

[@foolishly69]

Insomnia got me watching the one and only Self Made Auto Channel I swear that is what I hear and so I'm stickin' with it that my story, as always good content, thanks for sharing....

[@devttyUSB0]

I always hear 'self made auto channel' too! :D In any case, this self made auto channel kicks ass! \o/

[@laddhooks]

The subtitles think he says "self made auto channel" also.

[@dcctech5822]

Being an FCA tech I must fix 6 of these a month. A really bad design. You have done a good, logical diagnosis.

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Well, Eric now that I have watched part one part two now makes a lot more sense. Somedays we have it together and some days well you know. Good video. Guess people nowadays should not take their cars out in bad weather. Those green crusties will get you. ❤️️

[@stephendee7839]

At 8:12 where Eric breaks his vow of no-swearing-on-the-channel. Oops

[@baxrok2.]

Saved you a lot of diag time going straight for the relay. Nice. Thanks Dr. O!

[@ecwurban]

What I like to do in cases like this, just to get the vehicle inside, is I'll jumper power to one of the fuses that get fed power from the ASD relay. Such as Fuse32 as seen @2:12. They're nice and accessible and you'll bypass the relay all together.

[@AndreBarnett]

hmm I'm curious to hear more

[@WApnj]

No complaints.. Love the sound of wind and garbled voices.. The extended views of your back and shoulder are outstanding....LOL...always look forward to your vids.

[@defendermender4959]

A broken jeep.....does a bear 🐻 create a stool in the woods? 🙄😂

[@jamespn]

Many a stool indeed.

[@defendermender4959]

James Nasto won’t see any of those terrible Fiats on my channel 🎣

[@pudmina]

I always thought it was the Pope that created woods stools and the bear that was of the Roman Catholic persuasion.

[@throttlebottle5906]

anymore that's not a good phrase, since the woods are being removed and bears migrating to suburban and city areas...

[@sharedknowledge6640]

The Total Integrated Power Module is SO totally integrated the idiots at Jeep failed to integrate 4 of the critical relays and instead put them in a ridiculous little extra box in a stupid location low in the engine compartment that gets wet and is hard to access. The box is less than a foot from the TIPM so it makes zero sense. Yet another reason to never buy a Jeep. The engineering is laughably bad in so many ways.

[@jonathant4859]

“Shiiit”... at this moment, every person that has worked on a vehicle, knew he done dropped something in the abyss

[@MrGardman]

If you see Dorothy and Toto going by....get inside Eric.

[@dannyyu2932]

The scanner computer used in the video: amzn.to/2H3l6dt Autel MK908 Ultimate Wireless Automotive Scan Tool with ADAS, ECU Coding, Full Bi-Directional Control, ABS Brake Bleed, OE-Level All Systems Diagnosis

[@nickthirgood3882]

3:44 'Let's get a Fleshlight' 🔦🤭😂

[@JohnnyTalia]

Preceded at 1:19 by "...we're gonna give it the held hand job here..."

[@alvon911]

Ahhh, the joys of rust-belt driving!

[@joshcathey5820]

Just tried this on 2016 renegade. Worked. Your awesome!

[@chrisfreemesser5707]

As soon as I saw Compass and crank/no-start, I was thinking you might be in that relay block. I have a Caliber and, after remembering your last go-around with that relay block, checked them last fall while I was replacing the driver's side headlight assembly. Pulled the fuel pump relay, one pin had green crusties where a control side pin should have been. I was pissed but at least found/fixed it before it failed completely.

[@sportshatch]

A repair from the top of Ben Nevis.
Good work Eric.

[@akachuck99]

It's a twofer Sunday.
Awesome videos they definitely made my day

[@wallingj68]

In my minds eye I'm picturing a large fan, a lawn mower, a tractor, and a backing up truck circling you while you do this video. If I would have known I would have shown up with an air compressor and a ringing phone to complete the background noise BINGO card!

[@billyyoder8171]

Thank you Eric. Good job. I appreciate your videos. Sounded like hurricane Ivan made landfall.

[@bmbriguybmbriguy9988]

I just ran into this last week on a 2011. Both the fan and ASD relays use the same power feed. Repairing the fan relay terminal will solve your problem. I filled the upper and lower side with dielectric. The box is not sealed at all.

[@bostedtap8399]

There's no wind down south Eric... Hope this helps??
Great video, and thanks for sharing.

[@SirDeanosity]

That relay box where it is would be like putting a sub-panel for your house on the roof. This vehicle was developed without design restraints applied: where electrical may and may not be installed for one.

[@tylershangout9093]

I would bet that there is more corrosion underneath on the wires of that relay box. Fixed one of those with the same problem.

[@danisammy98]

I think alot of us feel Eric O.'s frustration at 8:09

[@CheezyDee]

NAUGHTY WORDS!

[@elcheapo5302]

7:43 sounds like the OG SMA intro!

[@BuggysTowJam]

Thank you for releasing both parts at same time. I just said to Ivan yesterday a little piece of me dies each time he does a part one part two and i have to wait. Because i start thinking what if i get in an accident today or have a heart attack I'll never know how it ended. Tv shows i have to wait till full season is released to stream it all until it's over.

[@mike13653]

I think that's the first time I heard you curse, Eric! Lol

[@mrg3dit2002]

there's a few for the swear jar!!!

[@JosephArata]

I've seen fuse/relay/computer modules get corrosion straight down to the PCB before on Freightliner Cascadia trucks. If you have one Relay do that, expect the rest of the box to be toast. lol

[@jumpinjojo]

3:44 A Fleshlight. Did you catch that?? Lol!!

[@meticulouselectronics]

I had same relay issues with a 2014 jeep patriot. Cvt didn't feel right. Didn't start sometime. Every relay in the wheel well needed to be changes due to corrosion. Cvt started acting proper and vehicle had no more issues

[@Sean006]

A first from SMA...Eric fault finds from the top of mount Everest. Let's hope he makes it back!!

[@eddiereichel9354]

Iv done 1 or two of these as well. Last one had a' new box in it already with wire nuts and all.

[@dylankeen2203]

I know you’ve steering away from tool videos but as a fellow technician, albeit one with much less experience, I would appreciate some input from you sir. Especially in the scan tool area. You’re a man of many scanners and I have but one( OTC Encore), and I have been thinking about upgrading. I know you’re not a tool channel but a video here or there focusing on diag tools or general tools would really benefit the technicians in the crowd. Thank you.

[@justinfiumara3424]

i find ALOT of compasses and patriots that have the corroded wires in the relay box its always my dead gove away when i have no power at the 2 15a fuses that come from the main relay. the worst part is they all share one power wire for the control side

[@uzaiyaro]

I was wondering why any engineer would think that that is a good spot for a fusebox, then I remembered that it's a Chrysler product. A friend of mine worked for Jeep as a head auto electronics engineer and he said they always do shit like this, which is why he left the company.

[@Paul1958R]

Eric,
Great video - looking forward to part 2! Why does FCA have to bury that relay box like that?
Thank you to Keith for info!
SMA#1
God bless
Paul

[@iandamianluciferwilson7385]

Well done Eric. I would say I couldn't hear Shit. But I did.

[@OtherSarah2]

finally: a video that sounds like it might've been made in Texas (traffic, wind, and milspec language)

[@michaelhawthorne8696]

Did I hear that right ????
The tripod is a little inconvient so we are going to give it THE HAND JOB here.... LMAO....spit my drink out on this...😭

[@boofdady]

This video just saved my buddy a lot of time and money thank you very much

[@TheCowgirlNiamh]

Wow that's windy! I thought you were on my driveway for a minute lol on to part two! 👍☺️

[@1stanich]

I saw a spark on the positive feed wire to the fuse box when you cranked it

[@zachthomas5468]

You sir, saved hours of diagnosis. Same exact relay is rotten on ours. Thank you.

[@Cool-iceberg]

Great explanation 👌. Is there's any chance that you can share with me the diagram of fuse 32, which I believe it goes to the fuel pump and ECU please. I can't communicate with the ECU. Brown and white wire.
Kind regards

[@SvcGlobal]

Bad audio or not, always a great video, thanks Eric O.

[@michaelhawthorne8696]

You need a flufy cover for your microphone.. but hey, your frustration with the wind makes for a better video... keep rockin' Mr O

[@peterkirwan3337]

Another great video.thanks for dropping the relay makes the rest of use mere mortals feel human.😝😝🇮🇪.

[@twopumpsandimdone309]

Wish me luck...doing a power steering rack in my dads 03 Buick LeSabre without a lift today..seals decided to blow right in front of my house last night

[@alexkieffer6380]

Micheal Plummer at least it did it in the driveway and not out on the road. No tow bill or headache getting it off the road.

[@throttlebottle5906]

I don't think those were that bad to change, but I may be thinking wrong vehicle...............

[@BuggysTowJam]

I don't want to hear any complaints about the wind noise. If you must know Eric O had Betsy Ross's original old glory sent to him by the Smithsonian to fly above south main auto for memorial day weekend! The liberty bell will come from Philadelphia to Avoca NY approx. July 3rd through the 5th. To the brave men and woman in the service now and past. Thank you for your service! And for those who gave all thank you for your sacrifice! You will always be remembered!

[@ThePracticalMechanic]

That radio is the cheapest double DIN touch screen available on amazon. Only $50. I bought one for a beater and wish I had just spent the $200 for a decent one.

[@frapsATV]

lol I just fixed the exact same relay on a 2008 jeep compass. I couldn't get the original connector fixed up, so I just externally mounted the relay next to the box.
I also moved the relay box up towards the battery, since there's plenty of slack in the wiring harness. Not sure why they would slap a bunch of relays where it's prone to corrode

[@wyattoneable]

On to part two. This is getting interesting.

[@petemedina8446]

Interesting video so far will check out part 2.

[@larrysepicmovies5044]

Because of the LOCATION of that relay box, they are very susceptible to water damage.

[@kalkhoven89]

Ive ran into this problem once on a patriot and a caliber. Both times it was the starter control side tho causing no cranks

[@tiredagain6722]

My first thought was TIPM! You look cold, go inside!

[@teacfan1080]

Here in North Dakota, any wind 25mph and under is considered "light".

[@waynep343]

@5:15 your test light with the red bulb. i had a horrible issue with one of those. it worked perfectly when the probe was aimed down. if i used it under the dashboard where the probe end was aimed up slightly. it was totally intermittent. it took me little while on this car that had previously been modified by morons playing whack a mole with the wiring. drove me nuts till i figured it out..

[@TheTheomax]

Complaining I get so much of that at work from the residents which means it's your lucky day. I don't like it when it's done to me so that means I won't do it to you. Now that I got the disclaimer out of the way. I always enjoy your video's so on to part two!!

[@joeidaho5938]

Relay panel is accessed through the fender shroud....and not through the top of the vehicle. So much easier to see what's happening by removing the fender shroud.

[@efreaky65]

What’s the way to pry off relay box cover and remove off bracket so can inspect relays and wiring?

[@joeidaho5938]

@@efreaky65 Not sure. I was researching this for a friend's vehicle....not my own. I know there are a few videos on this topic.

[@efreaky65]

Got cover off was easier than thought now found corroded starter relay pin(classic problem with Jeep) and now need new relay and clean it up of corrosion and check wires and insert new relay. Anyone know best way to remove relay box from its bracket? Need to be able to get better access to inspect.

[@corvettefan91]

Leave it to Chrysler to place electronics(and grounds) where the wheels throw up the salt.

[@woodyglendell7400]

What? You mean putting the TCM in the front wheel well under the car isn't a good idea?

[@throttlebottle5906]

looks at corvettefan, like placing the ECM under the battery way down low in the C5' vette's :))))

[@evanmerworth7830]

*Looks at the Jeep badge* "Well there's your problem lady!" JK, i actually like old school jeeps and have a dream of fixing up and restoring an old school wrangler 4cyl. But the new jeeps are garbage!

[@AlexDeLarge2022]

Informative video, but I'm technically impaired when it comes to new vehicles. I really just want to know where the fuse box is in a 2018 Jeep Compass Trailhawk. I can't find a fuse box in the cabin. I guess it's under the hood.

[@josephcabrera6396]

Wow, I thought the Jeep patriot location for the relay box was bad, this one has it even worst....

[@hasanmnegr309]

شكرا جزيلا لكم استاذ وتحيه خالصه لك من العراق

[@Jonnyboy34000]

Can u please show where you get the wire to jump relay

[@danatrepanier9962]

Yup . ..that was the issue. Cant say thank u enough

[@tantrumus7186]

Will the motor crank with this problem? Our compass turns fine but does not fire nor try to, no hint of spark....

[@richardhinson7126]

Love your shows. learn a lot. just thought i would pass on a tip i learned. If you place a piece of foam lightly across you mic on your camera it will block your wind and people could hear you talking. Thanks for the great leaning lessons. Take care O family..

[@Watcher3223]

Another Jeep Compass with problems?
How unprecedented...

[@misterhat5823]

What's with Jeep or Chrysler in general? Got to be some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

[@Watcher3223]

@@misterhat5823 Well, to be fair, not all Chrysler products are really awful ... but that's just arguing to the odds that there will be people who are lucky enough not to have had problems.
And, despite knowing that Chrysler doesn't have a good track record, one of the vehicles I really want to own ... is a WK2 Grand Cherokee.

[@madmax3864]

Hay welcome back sir eric 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪😜😜😜😜😜🤩🤩🤩😇😇😇😇

[@kellyconstenius676]

AKKKKKKK! You said Sheeee it.
I would have said a lot worse and started looking for the BFH. Then hopefully before I found the BFH a coffee break would ensue. Otherwise real money gets spent.

[@GianLombardo]

Who puts relay's down there?. That's what you get when you let fiat take over. 🤣

[@marlon2k9]

Too bad Fiat didn't have anything to do with the design or engineering of this vehicle. Talk to Daimler/Chrysler/Mitsubishi.

[@GianLombardo]

@@marlon2k9 I'll have to disagree with you. 2.4 multiair engine is a fiat design. And all body and chassis was designed by fca.

[@marlon2k9]

Gian Lombardo Yeah and I’m a Jeep employee. Sorry. That’s not a Multiair engine.

[@donnierobertson3088]

Great job again like always

[@mikeyp916]

I'm really laughing out loud right now. Had a car come in the other day with the same problem. I didn't watch part 2 yet, but I have a feeling that you're going to find the wire corroded into that first relay, and Chrysler in their genius thinking decided to daisy chain all the other power feeds for the control size of the relays together. If one goes bad, they all go bad. Genius

[@throttlebottle5906]

does and did chrysler even engineer the harnesses on their own or spec the materials and parts anymore? same question for all the manufactures

[@jf8322]

You sir are what I call an expert can you plz provide your model number computer u use that has some identix docs on it ?

[@frugalprepper]

I am complaining that you still haven't done a tool box tour.

[@rickbaker4571]

SMA works on the only Jeep on Mars - more at 11.

[@smcic]

Wicked windy deal with it! 💨🌬

[@HITMAN934]

I watch both parts and figured I’d ask as it gonna be to much work for me to fix the relay box. When you jump started her, did you leave the wires in place on the main relay to get from point A to B or can they be removed once the engine is running ? Also do the rad fans kick in or will I need to jump them as well. Trying to save me a tow bill, if I can get her to my local mechanic shop, then I’d jump the relays.