Been doing squats for a couple years ago. I am pushing up bigger weights in my legs. I box squat year round. Thanks to Louie for his support. I'm 48 years old recently I benched 140kg for 50 reps. I had 2 srokes and 3 angina attacks this years. I'm having angioplasty on this Sunday morning . After I recover I going to come back and squat more than before. Wish I had made a video but it's too late now as the surgery and my nervousness is tough. Good work Louie I'm going to join you in the 1000 pound club next year if my heart problem is not too bad. I did an 800 on the box this year. So stay tuned. Thanks
As I said I am nursing an injury right now so the Smith Machine helps me to be able to train and not put so much stress on my body. Once I start training again I will do it with free weights and upload it. That way you don't get it twisted. My maximum bench without a special shirt is 600 pounds. I've been off gym for five months now. Once the cardiologist gives me the go ahead. I will start up again. So I will do it without a smith machine. I'm an old man I'm 50 years old. Been in gym 32 years. So when I post it I will let you know so you can be critical of that.
@ScotteDio you can do it man, I spent 11 years in the military 5 of which in the 82nd. When I got out I was really beat up. I took some time off and started powerlifting. I'm in my late 30's now and stronger than ever.
In the beginning it was just Louie and me that began what became Westside. I've often thought to do a sort of a graphic novel story of us and Westside and Louie's genius. Still might do it in spite of Lou's passing. My latest accomplishment was helping to create the Arnold that happens every March near Nationwide. If you build it they will come.
@RedWildz Never?? Well, it only took me 3 minutes to find an article written by Louie that specifically says you should squat to a parallel box. It's his article about the top 5 squats. You should read it. Seems that I have clearly done my homework.
@usapljuniors I am a RAW lifter, USPA member, i dont use equipment, i mean id like his training advice on form, technique etc. What ever he personally uses to "help" him is his business. What do you mean by being stronger not better? i understand form and technique mean everything.
you guys will notice him talking about the "soviet method" this is something that is very unknown here.I amnot kidding when i say that their sport science from the 50s and 60s is MORE than what we know right now... they have UNBELIEVEable amounts of wisdom when it comes to training (not just power lifting) that we could not even comprehend here. the kind of stuff that would blow your mind if they ever allowed that knowledge to reach the west.... louie only got the tip of the iceberg, Trust me
Said at least one study. The results are quite interesting. 'The Effects of Supraphysiologic Doses of Testosterone on Muscle Size and Strength in Normal Men'
thats why you should compete in a fed like ipf. and once again, they'd still squat more than you atg. have you ever noticed that no really strong raw lifters bitch about how gear ruined the sport? its always the weak ones. powerlifting is all about making yourself better, ignore what others are doing and worry about your lifts
No more than if you were jogging 5+ miles. That's why you must accostum your joints, ligaments, and tendons to handle the pressure. Once that is done, ATG squats are so much more rewarding.
@kingschnitz dude i dont know of many 60+ year old dudes thats in good as shape as louie and that lift what he lifts. westside training method is prob the best training method out there. Ive already put over 50 pounds on my bench in 3 months from using the westside method.
They are European methods, yes. From the older Soviet Union and they were written by Soviet lifters and doctors. They were born in Europe whether all of the lifters use it or not, this is it's birth place.
Problem with ATG squatting is you cannot judge it. Whats ATG for you and me is completely different then ATG for a stubby guy with fat calves and thighs. There is a reason they have the parallel rule in squat, to keep things fair.
Everybody cheats nowadays where there is competition. It's all about how much money are you willing to spend to use high quality steroids not to be caught. If you want to train natural, you do it for yourself - that's the reality. It still doesn't change the fact that if you take steroids you still need a lot of work and dedication. Steroids are not a magic pill that will allow you to be strong while sitting on the couch.
If steroids are your concern you are bound to be disappointed to find out that MOST professional competitors use since form of performance enhancing hormone or booster.
@bodebldr2000 Your lifts would definitely go up. Your squats will be high. Your deadlifts won't be locked out. And eventually, you will be taking drugs. You may get stronger, but it will be at a big cost.
@bodebldr2000 The form and technique are the biggest problem. Watch his guys compete and train and you'll see that for sure. All of their squats are high. We all have the same rulebook. He claims to do squats to a parallel box. Those don't happen. Deadlifts aren't locked out either. Louie is a smart guy. He's smart enough to know the difference in clean lifts and bad lifts and chooses to coach his lifters to do it the wrong way
No, she looks like a strong person. If you can't deal with women being strong, welp, that's not my problem. And I'm pretty sure she don't do all the training just to impress someone else.
@usapljuniors Never has Westside claimed to use parallel boxes. It'd widely acknowledged that they squat high in training with heavier weights and then increase their depth for competition. You clearly know nothing about Westside methods. This technique is used for multiply lifters, by the way.
If anyone has seen the Bigger Stronger Faster documentary then you'll know Louie has done steroids "on n off for years"....but who gives a fuck. He is still a beast and done a lot for the sport, steroids arent some miracle strength builder on their own.
Maybe not for a spectator, but I'm sure for a guy who trains just as hard, but is unwilling to compromise his moral integrity - it does take something away from the sport. Illegal supplementation will always be a part of sport now, and I only see that as a very sad situation indeed.
what the hell are you talking about, he didn't mention it in this vid, but there's been heaps were he has said that there is no way he could train the way he does without them, but his methods work for a non-drug using athlete aswell, so maybe think a little and do some research before saying something nexttime
i think people give guys like him too much credit. this whole BS that well, they are 100% dedicated to everything else, absolves them from the fact that they used PEDs which gives them a HUGE HUGE HUGE physiological advantage. greatest Powerlifters of all time WHO NEVER FAILED A DRUG TEST, are never even mentioned as much as they should be.
Educate yourself on how steroids work in the body. If you honestly think roids don't work as well as I say. Then just research on it instead of assuming shit.
To the whole steroid debate. It's been proven you don't even have to work out on steroids and will still gain muscle. Thats how powerful these substances are. So, the whole argument saying they train hard is true, but lets be serious. If they didn't take these performance enhancing drugs. They wouldn't be anywhere near the level they're at now. Also, idc how much weight they squat. That depth is LOL! No way is that functional strength going down 5 inchs.
no, but they'd still be a shitload stronger than you and their squats are to parallel, lets see you squat half as much as them to way below parallel, infact, you wouldnt be able to even unrack it
if used correctly the yield MASSIVE gains. fuck the bs war on steroids, i think that is bs, but using steroids GIVES people an advantage. its fact. which is still cheating IF they are used in competitions. the openness about steroids within the sport is why the sport doesnt get the attention it deserves. in baseball and football it isnt as prevalent as in powerlifting simply because there are consequences. There are more consequence for these"powerlifters" if they DONT use steroids.
Of coarse there are steroids the owner admits he has been on them since he was a teen lol no one cares in this world about people talking trash oh he is using steroids so what maybe if you were not scared of trying new things and new trading methods you could be a champion but instead you voice is only an echo from the bottom of the leaders board. Up the dose lift the most.
Actually, no. Theres studies proving how strong steroids are. You can gain muscle not even lifting on steroids. Also, I could care less how much they quarter squat. Thats why powerlifting is a joke now. It's all about shitty ass technique to decrease the ROM and using suits and equipment that increases your lifts. If it aint raw and ATG. It's not a real squat.
fit and healthy?? he doesnt look to fit or healthy to me...... 30 odd years of being on the juice will do that to you though...... as for his super fantastic training methods resulting in record after record.... could a crap load of juice have anything to do with those either??? or course not
![The Louie Simmons Science To Producing The World’s Strongest Humans [Westside Documentary | Bonus 6]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IK0bfOnMKzE/mqdefault.jpg)
"After suffering my second lower back injury."
For those who don't know, he means second broken back.
Been doing squats for a couple years ago. I am pushing up bigger weights in my legs. I box squat year round. Thanks to Louie for his support. I'm 48 years old recently I benched 140kg for 50 reps. I had 2 srokes and 3 angina attacks this years. I'm having angioplasty on this Sunday morning . After I recover I going to come back and squat more than before. Wish I had made a video but it's too late now as the surgery and my nervousness is tough. Good work Louie I'm going to join you in the 1000 pound club next year if my heart problem is not too bad. I did an 800 on the box this year. So stay tuned. Thanks
Good for you bro!
hahahahahahaha
This was done on a smith machine....
As I said I am nursing an injury right now so the Smith Machine helps me to be able to train and not put so much stress on my body.
Once I start training again I will do it with free weights and upload it. That way you don't get it twisted. My maximum bench without a special shirt is 600 pounds. I've been off gym for five months now. Once the cardiologist gives me the go ahead. I will start up again.
So I will do it without a smith machine. I'm an old man I'm 50 years old. Been in gym 32 years. So when I post it I will let you know so you can be critical of that.
140kg for 50 reps. xD
the snatch and clean/jerk are more technical then the deadlift,bench or squat, not just anyone can do them
Louie Simmon....The Godfather of Powerlifting...
@ScotteDio you can do it man, I spent 11 years in the military 5 of which in the 82nd. When I got out I was really beat up. I took some time off and started powerlifting. I'm in my late 30's now and stronger than ever.
In the beginning it was just Louie and me that began what became Westside. I've often thought to do a sort of a graphic novel story of us and Westside and Louie's genius. Still might do it in spite of Lou's passing. My latest accomplishment was helping to create the Arnold that happens every March near Nationwide. If you build it they will come.
westside barbell is such a bad ass name.. I'm definitely getting one of those T-shirts
as ali g says, westside is da best lol
@curt2398 it was the bulgarians that did the max effort and the soviets rotated exercises. louie combined them and applied them to powerlifting.
i got invited to come to westside by louie himself. it made me feel special. haha
@RedWildz
Never?? Well, it only took me 3 minutes to find an article written by Louie that specifically says you should squat to a parallel box. It's his article about the top 5 squats. You should read it. Seems that I have clearly done my homework.
I want to train there
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WERE CAN I FIND THE CLIP OF LOUIE DEADLIFTING?!!
@usapljuniors I am a RAW lifter, USPA member, i dont use equipment, i mean id like his training advice on form, technique etc. What ever he personally uses to "help" him is his business. What do you mean by being stronger not better? i understand form and technique mean everything.
I am a big fan of Mr Simmons.
does he have a book??
I was looking at the westside routine, but how do you recover from doing lat movements 4 times a week? please answer anyone
Steroids
@PowerSprinter LOL, I always find you on weightlifting videos.
you guys will notice him talking about the "soviet method" this is something that is very unknown here.I amnot kidding when i say that their sport science from the 50s and 60s is MORE than what we know right now... they have UNBELIEVEable amounts of wisdom when it comes to training (not just power lifting) that we could not even comprehend here. the kind of stuff that would blow your mind if they ever allowed that knowledge to reach the west.... louie only got the tip of the iceberg, Trust me
i want to take a trip there one day
thats a awesome logo
Can anyone spent a few minutes explaining the program to me or sending me a website explaining?
0:48 Frank Yang?
well said.
Said at least one study. The results are quite interesting.
'The Effects of Supraphysiologic Doses of Testosterone on Muscle Size and Strength in Normal Men'
I would love to train with those guys.
thats why you should compete in a fed like ipf. and once again, they'd still squat more than you atg. have you ever noticed that no really strong raw lifters bitch about how gear ruined the sport? its always the weak ones. powerlifting is all about making yourself better, ignore what others are doing and worry about your lifts
tim martinho you’re an idiot
that's true you gain muscle on steroids without training but you can still use the conjugate method for raw atg squats
@Streetraceryaris they doesnt rly look like they are taking steroids
No more than if you were jogging 5+ miles. That's why you must accostum your joints, ligaments, and tendons to handle the pressure. Once that is done, ATG squats are so much more rewarding.
@usapljuniors oh i see what your saying now. damn, didnt even notice it at first. wow.
@southerncooker05 If only I could understand the method, maybe I too, could make significant gains.
@kingschnitz dude i dont know of many 60+ year old dudes thats in good as shape as louie and that lift what he lifts. westside training method is prob the best training method out there. Ive already put over 50 pounds on my bench in 3 months from using the westside method.
They are European methods, yes. From the older Soviet Union and they were written by Soviet lifters and doctors. They were born in Europe whether all of the lifters use it or not, this is it's birth place.
Problem with ATG squatting is you cannot judge it. Whats ATG for you and me is completely different then ATG for a stubby guy with fat calves and thighs.
There is a reason they have the parallel rule in squat, to keep things fair.
This is westside barbell training program?
Everybody cheats nowadays where there is competition. It's all about how much money are you willing to spend to use high quality steroids not to be caught. If you want to train natural, you do it for yourself - that's the reality. It still doesn't change the fact that if you take steroids you still need a lot of work and dedication. Steroids are not a magic pill that will allow you to be strong while sitting on the couch.
Amen.
If steroids are your concern you are bound to be disappointed to find out that MOST professional competitors use since form of performance enhancing hormone or booster.
they lift in a untested federation, no natty lifter would even bother competing unless they where ridiculously strong
I wish my body wasn't brokedown from years in military, so I give powerlifting & strongman a try.
This program is the hardest program to understand......Ever.
@usapljuniors and your point is.....?
Guess what time it is? IT'S SQUAT SUIT TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME~
@NateHughes55 Some are, some aren't. As simple as that. However, Ed Coan was on roids. He openly admitted it.
Ever seen beef cattle that have been pumped with hormones? They don't do squats and deadlifts and they grow massive.
@bodebldr2000
Your lifts would definitely go up. Your squats will be high. Your deadlifts won't be locked out. And eventually, you will be taking drugs. You may get stronger, but it will be at a big cost.
@bodebldr2000 The form and technique are the biggest problem. Watch his guys compete and train and you'll see that for sure. All of their squats are high. We all have the same rulebook. He claims to do squats to a parallel box. Those don't happen. Deadlifts aren't locked out either. Louie is a smart guy. He's smart enough to know the difference in clean lifts and bad lifts and chooses to coach his lifters to do it the wrong way
"the only difference between geared lifters and clowns is that some people actually care about clowns"
And yet no one knows you for shit.
@monaghan145 If u think these guys arent on steroids ur sadly mistaken bro... Im not mad at them for it.. theyre strong.. But be real now.
I thought the guy in the thumbnail was a zombie. His beard looked like blood and he had a 'staring into space' kind of look. lol
Regardless, if a program works, it WORKS. Point blank. That's like saying 5/3/1 only works when you're on roids O_O
Watch Dan Green.
and you would fail then be forgotten very very quickly.
@DreadfulControversy haha heck i been doin it for 4 months and still dont understand it haha
I must be missing something.. where does science come into bulgarian method?
its parallel so, I'd say its functional.
No, she looks like a strong person. If you can't deal with women being strong, welp, that's not my problem. And I'm pretty sure she don't do all the training just to impress someone else.
@kingschnitz Do you even understand what steroids do? And bodybuilders are the big juicers, not the powerlifters.
"Any moron can snatch" yeah you're right the snatch is nowhere as techincal as grabbing a bar and picking it up.
I think he's talking about training, not competition lifts.
@kingschnitz If you're only here to hate, why even bother being here in the first place?
Yeah and i'm sure they really care about how they look and how some random people on youtube judge them.
but you knew what i meant by that
@usapljuniors
Never has Westside claimed to use parallel boxes. It'd widely acknowledged that they squat high in training with heavier weights and then increase their depth for competition. You clearly know nothing about Westside methods. This technique is used for multiply lifters, by the way.
If anyone has seen the Bigger Stronger Faster documentary then you'll know Louie has done steroids "on n off for years"....but who gives a fuck. He is still a beast and done a lot for the sport, steroids arent some miracle strength builder on their own.
Maybe not for a spectator, but I'm sure for a guy who trains just as hard, but is unwilling to compromise his moral integrity - it does take something away from the sport. Illegal supplementation will always be a part of sport now, and I only see that as a very sad situation indeed.
nice sumo deadlift hue hue hue hue
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viking dwarf
for Zyzz see 0:54
what the hell are you talking about, he didn't mention it in this vid, but there's been heaps were he has said that there is no way he could train the way he does without them, but his methods work for a non-drug using athlete aswell, so maybe think a little and do some research before saying something nexttime
i think people give guys like him too much credit. this whole BS that well, they are 100% dedicated to everything else, absolves them from the fact that they used PEDs which gives them a HUGE HUGE HUGE physiological advantage. greatest Powerlifters of all time WHO NEVER FAILED A DRUG TEST, are never even mentioned as much as they should be.
@BrianDWalker3445 Yeah and it pisses me of When they say the strongest people in the world trailn there
Hmm not one mention of steroids. Kind of misleading having methodology take credit for everything and not one mention of biotechnology.
Educate yourself on how steroids work in the body. If you honestly think roids don't work as well as I say. Then just research on it instead of assuming shit.
success causes hate and envy from the un-successful............its ok, God loves you :)
To the whole steroid debate. It's been proven you don't even have to work out on steroids and will still gain muscle. Thats how powerful these substances are. So, the whole argument saying they train hard is true, but lets be serious. If they didn't take these performance enhancing drugs. They wouldn't be anywhere near the level they're at now. Also, idc how much weight they squat. That depth is LOL! No way is that functional strength going down 5 inchs.
I world go their if she would be my personal trainer ;)
@steven288 at least honest?... more like, it's too obvious to deny and look silly
is that why Pat Mendes is the strongest teen in the world? because he uses bands and chains and boards and all that other bs? i.e. 'scientific plan'
@havensnathan dunno, but he does have steroids
no, but they'd still be a shitload stronger than you and their squats are to parallel, lets see you squat half as much as them to way below parallel, infact, you wouldnt be able to even unrack it
@bodebldr2000 My point is, you may be getting stronger. But, you won't be a better powerlifter.
1:18 I wish there were more tough, hetero girls like her. She's married to a guy.
lol, oly lifter doing crossfit? tell me its a joke......for what i know oly lifter training regimen is very very very different from crossfit....
Get a shot at the steroids and you will get there son.
if used correctly the yield MASSIVE gains. fuck the bs war on steroids, i think that is bs, but using steroids GIVES people an advantage. its fact. which is still cheating IF they are used in competitions. the openness about steroids within the sport is why the sport doesnt get the attention it deserves. in baseball and football it isnt as prevalent as in powerlifting simply because there are consequences. There are more consequence for these"powerlifters" if they DONT use steroids.
Of coarse there are steroids the owner admits he has been on them since he was a teen lol no one cares in this world about people talking trash oh he is using steroids so what maybe if you were not scared of trying new things and new trading methods you could be a champion but instead you voice is only an echo from the bottom of the leaders board. Up the dose lift the most.
WTF is wrong with people
best of the world? lol they '''world'' hate these 1/4 squat with 3 ply. They are the best of this shit yes.
I tried joining this gym but they don't allow straight men.
its called PEDs.
No its not...
Lol the strongest people in the world doesnt train there thats just silly.
Actually, no. Theres studies proving how strong steroids are. You can gain muscle not even lifting on steroids. Also, I could care less how much they quarter squat. Thats why powerlifting is a joke now. It's all about shitty ass technique to decrease the ROM and using suits and equipment that increases your lifts. If it aint raw and ATG. It's not a real squat.
fit and healthy??
he doesnt look to fit or healthy to me......
30 odd years of being on the juice will do that to you though......
as for his super fantastic training methods resulting in record after record.... could a crap load of juice have anything to do with those either??? or course not
Pure sport is real sport, do drugs, and I have beaten you.
IPF RUSSIAN LIFTERS > WESTSIDE
obese
the strongest people in the world does not train at westside or use the westside method.