'Putin's vulture' helicopter increasing threat to Ukrainian tanks

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2023
  • As Ukrainian tanks advance toward Russian defences, they face an increasing threat from Russian attack helicopters.
    The Ka-52 'Alligator', often compared to the Apache, can hit targets 10km away - beyond the range of Ukraine's portable air defence systems.
    There is such a threat being felt by the Russian aircraft that the Ukrainian media have aptly named it 'Putin's vulture'.
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  • @ktm8848
    @ktm8848 10 месяцев назад +47

    AH-64 proved usefull against poor afghani herders and Iraqi journalists but can Never be on par with the KA-52

  • @LordLebu
    @LordLebu 10 месяцев назад +36

    The helicopters look majestic

  • @andrewpienaar4522
    @andrewpienaar4522 11 месяцев назад +42

    All you have to do is stop Russia from getting Washing Machines, so they don't have Computer Chips for their Aircraft and Missiles. (According to Ursula von der Leyen)

    • @user-nk4rq7so7i
      @user-nk4rq7so7i 8 месяцев назад +3

      уахахаха, все, что нужно знать о компетенциях гинеколога, которая принимает важные решения на посту

    • @nnlukichev1
      @nnlukichev1 5 месяцев назад

      Где она покупает такую траву?

  • @dikmontakolyomso7094
    @dikmontakolyomso7094 11 месяцев назад +24

    I started like ka 52 helicopter after seeing flying with tail blowing out.

  • @nieljosephpalca7849
    @nieljosephpalca7849 11 месяцев назад +103

    The worst enemy is an attack helicopter armed with non-line of sight(NLOS) anti-tank missiles that can strike enemy at a very long distance and close to the ground.

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 11 месяцев назад +3

      It is pretty lethal, indeed.
      Fortunately it's Russian so, eventually, it is also lethal to the pilots 😂

    • @nohandler1493
      @nohandler1493 11 месяцев назад +11

      The whole idea of exhausting Russia's armour is quite ridiculous from ukranian point of view 😂. Basically ukranian fighting the European and Asian version of America 😆

    • @Retrosicotte
      @Retrosicotte 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@nohandler1493 Not really, Russia is desperately running out of good armour, the difference is America is actually competant.

    • @davelane9366
      @davelane9366 11 месяцев назад +17

      ​@Retrosicotte competent at starting wars and meddling across the globe more like.

    • @nohandler1493
      @nohandler1493 11 месяцев назад +19

      @@Retrosicotte there is no proof of that. They are still exporting fighter jets and other important equipment's to Iran's and India. Infact, they are improving the helicopters based on prior experience. They also came up with new ideas regarding weapon manufacturing just look at lancet that thing is a legend by now.

  • @victorzvyagintsev1325
    @victorzvyagintsev1325 11 месяцев назад +48

    There is a video of Ka-52 dodging Wagners Strela-10. The cameraman almost got taken out by the rocket lol

    • @ddff3618
      @ddff3618 11 месяцев назад +1

      The missile took out oil storage facility missing the helo. Not bad anyway ;-)

    • @victorzvyagintsev1325
      @victorzvyagintsev1325 11 месяцев назад

      @@ddff3618 Yeah, a (classic)Hollywood moment right there.

    • @miroslavplancak
      @miroslavplancak 11 месяцев назад +6

      The pilot did not dodge it, the helicopter has laser jamming device optics that are automatically targeting incoming missile’s war head, overwhelming its guidance system and make it miss the target - the K52

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@miroslavplancak That system, called Vitebsk btw, has only been manufactured since 2015, there have been many Mi-8s and KA-52 made in the two decades prior to that that Russia still uses and only a fraction have been retrofitted with it. There is a video from the February 2022 showing a manpad firing at a squadron of Mi-8 helicopters, only 3 auto-pop flares, the rest of the pilots then proceed to do it manually.

    • @miroslavplancak
      @miroslavplancak 10 месяцев назад

      @@JAnx01 was not aware. Thank you

  • @magnem1043
    @magnem1043 11 месяцев назад +68

    the attack helis are beautiful

    • @BasilMinhas
      @BasilMinhas 11 месяцев назад +1

      I’m guessing you’re British

    • @hoot1025
      @hoot1025 10 месяцев назад +18

      @@BasilMinhas There is no need to guess? He admired some piece of equipment and the first thing you think/comment is "Oh I bet this guy is from this country because he likes something"

  • @SilverforceX
    @SilverforceX 11 месяцев назад +77

    Manpads max range is 4km. These helicopters can destroy tanks at 10km. They fly low to avoid regular anti-air SAM. So really, you can't stop them without Jets on patrol to force them away. And Jets in the air vs Russian S-300 and S-400 nearby with its 300-400km range, is suicidal for the Jet.

    • @Epiderm91
      @Epiderm91 10 месяцев назад

      They need F-35, but that would mean all out war with US as Ukraine not trained to fly F-35

    • @neilpopovich4966
      @neilpopovich4966 10 месяцев назад

      @@Epiderm91 lmao this guy really belived the hype now he thinks the f35 is some super jet. This is the exact problem with America, you have no idea what your talking about yet here you are talking

    • @lexburen5932
      @lexburen5932 9 месяцев назад

      Exactly

    • @powerkingez9682
      @powerkingez9682 9 месяцев назад

      Fighter jets are actually almost completely useless against helicopters, the US have done training on this and i belive the American Apache came out on top like 9 out of 10 times, its just propaganda to justify giving them more equipment

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​​@@Epiderm91It wouldn't mean all out war.
      It mean Russia will learn about it's capabilities and weaknesses.
      Arms manufacring countries tend to keep their most advanced variants as mysterious as possible.
      Not knowing and fully understanding the true capabilities is part of deterrence and the weapon's effectiveness.
      E.g. If the Russians get enough opportunities to point radars at F35s, they'll get the opportunity to optimize their radars for the F35s radar signiture.
      No stealth aircraft is fully stealth. They all have a reduced radar signiture (it makes them appear smaller and thus harder, but not impossible, to detect and target, from the perspective of radar systems).
      So, it would be a very bad idea for the US to give Ukraine it's non-outdated stuff.
      It's best to use the old stuff to prevent Russia from learning too much about the newer more capable stuff.

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 11 месяцев назад +21

    It's not a vulture, it's a flying alligator. But if you do want to avoid a vulture, don't present scraps. They are scavengers.

  • @Ghhyuttgg
    @Ghhyuttgg 11 месяцев назад +69

    shoot the helicopter down with artillery??? Are you serious?

    • @suhaib791
      @suhaib791 11 месяцев назад +3

      It's not to shoot the helicopters with, it's to distrupt the helicopter to not take off, just like in a fire fight you keep your head down if there are bullets coming your way.

    • @everythinggaming7938
      @everythinggaming7938 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@suhaib791 yeah but the arty is not in range of the airbase

    • @paulbedichek5177
      @paulbedichek5177 10 месяцев назад

      Yes,a Gephard or one of many AA missile systems.

    • @johncampbell4084
      @johncampbell4084 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@paulbedichek5177so oddly these helicopters are operating in a goldilocks zone for them. They don't have to get right up to the front line and can use laser guided rockets to attack Ukraine armor up to roughly 10kms away. The majority of AA systems are being used to protect vital infrastructure and cities from drone and cruise missile attacks. Stingers have a range of 4kms and 70mm APKW rockets range is 8kms. There's the Hawk system supplied by Spain and Taiwan whichl have a range of 40kms. Then they're is the Patriot system as well. Now that being said these are used to protect vital positions, supplies and civilians. It's a balancing act they have to counter with limited supplies so I have a feeling they would probably stike the air bases or move up some anti AA batteries soon.

    • @martinwinther6013
      @martinwinther6013 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@suhaib791 Ignore the incoming fire? The actual risk of being hit with an artyshell is slim to none, and the pilots would know this.
      Bombing a helipad is almost just a dumb a suggestion. They can take of from pretty much any open area, and its even possible to build a heavyduty fieldpad in about 30min if the original is blown up and you think you absolutely must have solid ground for takeoff.
      Journalists and their experts isnt always experts, and YT is sometimes right.

  • @AHalz
    @AHalz 11 месяцев назад +62

    The airbase that the helicopters are based at is well beyond the range of HIMAR and artillery. No idea what the commentator is saying about knocking out the airbase with that.
    Only thing left is Stormshadow, but too few Stormshadows are in stock and the helicopters are spaced out too far apart in the base where it will be possible to knock them out (without expending a large number of missiles). And recently Stormshadow usage has dropped considerably

    • @dragonstormdipro1013
      @dragonstormdipro1013 11 месяцев назад +17

      S300 is also quite good at intercepting the Storm Shadow

    • @notchurbusiness4958
      @notchurbusiness4958 11 месяцев назад +12

      24 of june russia destroyed the second shipment of stormshadow. The first they destroyed in the first week of june. The missiles are tracked from the Uk and russia waits until the warehouses are full before demolishing them.

    • @Mgaming61
      @Mgaming61 11 месяцев назад +9

      yeah, not to mention Russian ECM systems have been very effective to combat threats like HIMARS

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 11 месяцев назад

      @@notchurbusiness4958 Nothing of the sort has ever happened. No Storm Shadow shipments have ever been tracked. We know how to maintain operational secrecy. I guess these are the lies state media and Shoigus ineffective MoD are telling the Russia population to keep them believing. Reminder its Day 450 of the 3 day special military operation. I advise you to store 2 weeks worth of food and water.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 11 месяцев назад

      @@dragonstormdipro1013 No Stom shadow has ever been intercepted by S-300, Pantsir missiles or gun or any Russian fighter Jet. There may have been a loss a few days ago but that would be the 11th missile of 11 fired but some wreckage (a hydraulic actuator) means nothing and may just be debris from a SS that hit its target.
      -Radar based systems seem unable to intercept Storm Shadow and I suspect only laser based optical engagements by gun are what Russia will rely on. .

  • @whya2ndaccount
    @whya2ndaccount 11 месяцев назад +27

    The combined arms concept applies to both sides - colour me surprised.

    • @jp3630
      @jp3630 11 месяцев назад +2

      IKR. This guy out here talking like RU doesn't have artillery, planes (it can use), drones...some time later...missiles, satellites...some more time later...ships and subs too.

  • @SnakierElm62
    @SnakierElm62 11 месяцев назад +15

    KA-52s, very nice looking helicopter, personally I prefer the Mi-28

    • @angel102ify
      @angel102ify 11 месяцев назад +4

      I much prefer a burning pile of metal and jet fuel if I'm honest.

    • @SnakierElm62
      @SnakierElm62 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@angel102ify you do you man, I'm not pro Russian or anything, I just like the designs of their helicopters and military vehicles

    • @BullGator-kd6ge
      @BullGator-kd6ge 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@SnakierElm62 Mi-28 looks like a Apache and a Hind had a baby. I’m partial to the UH-60 DAP but that’s because they make Black Hawks in my state.

    • @SnakierElm62
      @SnakierElm62 11 месяцев назад

      @@BullGator-kd6ge I like the Lynx and Wildcats, although Lynx is the better one in my eyes, workhorse of the Army Air Corps

    • @lucasart328
      @lucasart328 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@angel102ify 🤓

  • @merrillmohan2484
    @merrillmohan2484 10 месяцев назад +6

    I remember watching an old interview with the taliban he said that they don’t fear death but you hear a Russian gun ship coming its scary.

  • @HALLWILLS24
    @HALLWILLS24 10 месяцев назад +4

    ALL NATO weapons vs Russian weapons. Looks like Russia win the game.

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 11 месяцев назад +30

    What's worse is that there is the MI 28, fortunately, its very low in number around less than 150 active units so Russia is not using it extensively

    • @Retroscoop
      @Retroscoop 11 месяцев назад +18

      15O active units... I wouldn't call that a "very low number".... Especially given the number of Leopard II and Challenger tanks the Ukrainians have.

    • @doodskie999
      @doodskie999 11 месяцев назад

      @@Retroscoop as I said "less than 150"
      Plus Russia does not have a great track record in maintaining their fleet, so who knows how many mi 28's are truly airworthy or capable to fly

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 11 месяцев назад +9

      so who gave you those numbers..??cnn or bbc..??

    • @doodskie999
      @doodskie999 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@briant5685 you know, doing a bit of research goes a long way to save your self from ignorance

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@doodskie999 no westerner search will ever tell the truth though

  • @phucknuts.7065
    @phucknuts.7065 11 месяцев назад +2

    We should send them keir starmer and Dianne Abbot In retaliation.

  • @briant5685
    @briant5685 11 месяцев назад +4

    alligator is way above apache in every aspect maybe compare apache with mi-28 havoc

    • @spartanrating8210
      @spartanrating8210 11 месяцев назад

      I'm thinking, if you cross avionics and fire control + Hellfire + Spike...that would be a helicopter! Indeed: "There is no analogue."
      The Aligator can carry a lot of weapons, if you give it optics and Israeli toys, it would be brutal

  • @Kazy-nn3vr
    @Kazy-nn3vr 11 месяцев назад +13

    It's not only the helicopters,mines, and artillery are doing the same amount of damage...

    • @hoot1025
      @hoot1025 10 месяцев назад

      Yes. However, this video was made because the Ka-52 has become quite a problem because it is effective on defensive mode and dead accurate.

    • @user-wy7lj2bo7p
      @user-wy7lj2bo7p 6 месяцев назад

      ATGM's too, "Kornet" ets

  • @jackuzi8252
    @jackuzi8252 10 месяцев назад +2

    Presumably the helicopters aren't flying around looking for tanks while waiting to be shot at. I assume that when ground troops or drones spot oncoming tanks, they call in the helicopters to that specific location. That way the helicopter can just "pop up", launch, and leave within a minute or two.

  • @pedroalmeida4335
    @pedroalmeida4335 11 месяцев назад +7

    F16's are not going to make a big difference in the war. Tb2 drones had thier moment, HIMARs had their moment, and the F16 shall have theirs. The Russians need to make this helicopter stealth. It's real bad boy.

  • @danielward9458
    @danielward9458 11 месяцев назад +2

    If you Volley enough rocket trucks when they're in their prone positions sometimes works too.^^

  • @nikkivieler3761
    @nikkivieler3761 11 месяцев назад +2

    Looks like helicopters don't have an offensive use, but more of a defensive use today...

  • @erikvarga4367
    @erikvarga4367 11 месяцев назад +5

    May I ask someone more knowledgeable than me, how the catapult works with the moving rotor blades above?

    • @FuriousFire898
      @FuriousFire898 11 месяцев назад +10

      Rotors are blow up with a explosive charge before ejection

    • @tankman66
      @tankman66 11 месяцев назад +8

      Haha very reasonable question. basically the blades shoot out of the rotors, the canopy as well, then the two crew eject.

  • @STKS1991
    @STKS1991 11 месяцев назад +5

    Exactly the kind of target Starstreak was designed for.

    • @Anet198002
      @Anet198002 11 месяцев назад +2

      As can be seen from this situation, it is absolutely useless.

    • @rock3tcatU233
      @rock3tcatU233 10 месяцев назад +2

      Shitstreak wouldn't do much to an armored beast such as the Ka52.

    • @STKS1991
      @STKS1991 10 месяцев назад

      @@Anet198002 There's videos of LMM shooting down KA-52. keep trolling.

    • @STKS1991
      @STKS1991 10 месяцев назад

      @@rock3tcatU233 There isn't a helicopter in the world that can take off with enough armour to stop a mach 3+ tungsten dart. mi-28 far better protected than ka-52 and Starstreak cut through it like butter.

    • @user-fn8jo2mo2d
      @user-fn8jo2mo2d 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@STKS1991and yet the pilots survive. Keep coping.

  • @Imprudentman
    @Imprudentman 11 месяцев назад +21

    Оf course, this helicopter can only be conditionally called "Putin's Vulture" because the first versions of this machine appeared in the late 80s, early 90s in the USSR. Mr. Putin at the time was a KGB officer in Germany . This helicopter should be the leader in a group consisting of KA-52 and MI-28. And it does have long-range, precision-guided missiles. As for me, this car is a good thing - armored, maneuverable and fast.

    • @khizarshah1009
      @khizarshah1009 11 месяцев назад +5

      Lol it punches at 10km from a distance and it has anti-tank weapon twice or thrice the speed of hellfire missile it sure is a threat

    • @ddff3618
      @ddff3618 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@khizarshah1009 The main downside for them is that those NEED to have the target highlighted with laser. They are not like Hellfires (shoot-and-forget)

    • @spartanrating8210
      @spartanrating8210 11 месяцев назад

      When he is named "Putin's Vulture" "Putin's Eagle" "Putin's Servant"
      Know this-it's just military propaganda from the channel.
      The basic premise is that each unit is given the name of their leader to show that they are not fighting against "Russia", but simply against the leader of their country, that he is the one to blame for everything. It's base-brother.
      """"3. The leader of our enemy is initially evil and looks like the devil
      Personifying the image of the enemy in the eyes of the citizenry is the most important task. Morelli writes: "You cannot hate a group of people as a whole, even as your enemies. It is therefore more effective to direct hatred at the leading personality of the enemy country. In this way, the 'enemy' will have a face, and this face will naturally become the object of hatred."""""

    • @VASILLEVSKI1878
      @VASILLEVSKI1878 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@ddff3618 None of that matters. They hit the target every time.

    • @ddff3618
      @ddff3618 11 месяцев назад

      @@VASILLEVSKI1878 of course. They report to you 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jonathanm4019
    @jonathanm4019 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ahahhahah take out a helicopter gunship with artillery, just call the ghost of keiv while you at it 😂😂

  • @ChargerrentalCoandammo
    @ChargerrentalCoandammo 11 месяцев назад +1

    Always liked Alligators as a animal

  • @homelandfighters8541
    @homelandfighters8541 10 месяцев назад

    My fav helos in C&C ZH Raptor,Shockwave and Contra 009

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 11 месяцев назад +1

    Vultures are scavengers - this is a bird of prey

  • @bikechainmic
    @bikechainmic 10 месяцев назад

    Heard it all before. Its still just a flying target.

  • @zozita.
    @zozita. 11 месяцев назад +1

    👍👍👍

  • @bombheadgames9565
    @bombheadgames9565 9 месяцев назад

    A drone flying a steel cable might be troublesome

  • @lexburen5932
    @lexburen5932 9 месяцев назад

    they are coping hard with the KA52 :)

  • @McKronenberg
    @McKronenberg 11 месяцев назад +3

    This guy does not know what hes talking about.

  • @Aegisbane
    @Aegisbane 11 месяцев назад +4

    Could adding Gepards to the tank columns help? Or is that too short range?

    • @monopalle5768
      @monopalle5768 11 месяцев назад +2

      I trained to shoot down choppers in a TANK.... If you can get within gun range, he's dead. But the heli can shoot twice your range or more...

    • @mkultra3679
      @mkultra3679 11 месяцев назад +5

      It's too short range. The russian helicopters are hiding behind a tree line and are firing away at 8km range, too far for a gepard

    • @harrybuttery2447
      @harrybuttery2447 11 месяцев назад +2

      The range is too short, but they might be able to pick the KA 52 up on radar to at least warn the rest.
      The Ukrainians do have Iris T's as well which have longer range as well as some soviet systems. But the issue there is that the Russians target them if they are to close to the front and the Ukrainians do not have many of them.

    • @FuriousFire898
      @FuriousFire898 11 месяцев назад

      Stormers would be a ideal choice. Decent range laser guided fast modern and ideal for anti helicopter

    • @Bob10009
      @Bob10009 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@FuriousFire898insufficient range.

  • @corvanphoenix
    @corvanphoenix 11 месяцев назад +7

    The Ka-52 with tail damage did *not* get it from a SAM. It got it from its own drop tanks! This expert didn't even watch the video they got the footage from.

    • @XCougar85X
      @XCougar85X 11 месяцев назад +10

      It was not from the tanks. Watch that video again. Those tanks were jetissoned after the damage already was there. Common practice after damage to remove all exess weight to stay flying.
      It is also next to imposible for those tanks to hit the tail with two big rotors pusing them down in the wash after release.

    • @spartanrating8210
      @spartanrating8210 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@XCougar85X Man, I saw a picture of this tail-already on the airfield, I did not see that there were traces of enemy air defense elements on it. I didn't believe the Buck theory myself, but there were no traces of an air defense strike. There were no small holes all over the tail section, the pilots themselves posted photos and confirmed that it was a fuel tank strike.

    • @XCougar85X
      @XCougar85X 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@spartanrating8210 Notice the front of the helo has damage, and they fly gear down. Before the tanks are jetisonned.
      They fall straight down. The part that flies of may well have been part of the tail, not denying that, but it was not hit by the tank. Or it was another piece that fell down.
      However if it was weakened the jolt of jettisoning can have been the final shake needed to separate a piece.
      And also if there was no damage they would not drop the tanks. They would be brought back and be reused.

    • @spartanrating8210
      @spartanrating8210 11 месяцев назад

      @@XCougar85X Upd: Reports from the field say that the tail was killed in a clash with enemy air defense, and that the tanks were dropped afterwards.

  • @lance8080
    @lance8080 11 месяцев назад +4

    Russia needs to bring all of these helicopters into the Ukraine

    • @LethalThreat
      @LethalThreat 8 месяцев назад

      They'll never do that. Russia is holding back a majority of its numbers and advanced tech in the event the war escalates further, with NATO countries taking a direct role in combat. So this means that they are on hold for WW3.

  • @osamaalafghanee8868
    @osamaalafghanee8868 8 месяцев назад

    South Africa invented the"lazerbeam-riding-missile".

  • @hegylako89
    @hegylako89 11 месяцев назад +8

    5-6 downed in a few days. Not going to posses big threat now

    • @bonifacenjuguna7453
      @bonifacenjuguna7453 11 месяцев назад +2

      Rubbish..no confirmation of downed ka 52 for the past 3 months

    • @abissuminvocat
      @abissuminvocat 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@bonifacenjuguna7453 Only one by Wagner group.

  • @neilclay5835
    @neilclay5835 11 месяцев назад +5

    Should have been given F-16s ages ago

  • @nohandler1493
    @nohandler1493 11 месяцев назад +4

    That thing dodges missiles like neo dodges bullet in matrix 😂. They also have lmur which is radat gudied and does not need line of sight but they are not using it because so far it does not needed

    • @spartanrating8210
      @spartanrating8210 11 месяцев назад

      I think the problems with the thermal imaging sensors have started. They're saving them! I watched a video of the guys who make thermal imaging cameras in Russia, they said earlier that they could only produce 3k items a year, I don't know how many there are now and how these problems are solved. But I think Lmur is just saving money...
      And in general I see a big problem, as the Russian Ministry of Defense can not clearly put on stream some high-precision weapons! Tanks yes, they can, because this is the reserve of the USSR...The Ministry of Defense in many ways, as it seems to me there are a lot of people recruited by the CIA, as in Yugoslavia in its time and in Iraq.

  • @silverianjannvs5315
    @silverianjannvs5315 10 месяцев назад +1

    Flying tanks!

  • @dominiccottrill2387
    @dominiccottrill2387 11 месяцев назад

    Isn't this exactly what the Gepard spaags are for? Mobile AA that moves forward with the armoured columns

    • @Bob10009
      @Bob10009 11 месяцев назад +7

      It is heavily outraged by the attack helicopters missiles.

    • @TheBongReyes
      @TheBongReyes 11 месяцев назад +1

      Gepards need to be able to see, lock and engage those helicopters. Air launched ATGMs will have more range than Gepards to engage. Especially, if Russian helicopters are positioned miles from their lines. Hide behind the tree line or hill, Gepards would only see them for mere seconds if at all. AH-64 Apaches are lethal because of that same tactic. Even more so as ground troops and scout helicopters can “paint” targets for Apaches. Not sure if Russians have that same capability.

    • @tankman66
      @tankman66 11 месяцев назад +5

      Even the upgraded gepard with stinger missiles won't be able to effectively engage the alligator at long ranges unfortunately.

    • @dominiccottrill2387
      @dominiccottrill2387 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheBongReyes At the very least they would force the alligators to operate at maximum range and therefore minimum effectiveness. To have no mobile AA is suicide.

  • @paakowhenry5186
    @paakowhenry5186 11 месяцев назад

    Send in the storm shadow .

  • @fadlya.rahman4113
    @fadlya.rahman4113 11 месяцев назад

    I'm sure Ukrainian will find a countermeasure.

  • @8731Cordova
    @8731Cordova 11 месяцев назад +1

    💯💯💯👍👍👍

  • @mateobravo9212
    @mateobravo9212 11 месяцев назад +1

    As tactics change, change your weaponry? Time to wheel out the Stingers?

    • @mkultra3679
      @mkultra3679 11 месяцев назад

      More like time to wheel out the BUKs

    • @Bob10009
      @Bob10009 11 месяцев назад +1

      Too short ranged.

  • @oldfashionedwrx3574
    @oldfashionedwrx3574 11 месяцев назад +1

    Migs ain't getting in. S400

  • @jumpinjack1156
    @jumpinjack1156 10 месяцев назад

    Need to advance stinger manpads, before the tanks, as well as Gepard air defense tanks !

    • @africagreatswoo6232
      @africagreatswoo6232 10 месяцев назад +1

      Stinger obsolete bring another for testing since it's testing ground

  • @finbarryan3590
    @finbarryan3590 11 месяцев назад +1

    How effective is Gephardt and Boa fears guns against such vulture helicopters?

    • @tankman66
      @tankman66 11 месяцев назад

      Not effective unfortunately. They are short-range guns and the alligator can outrange them with it's atgms by many kilometers. Gepard is mostly used against drones, which it is very effective at.

    • @ghertil9235
      @ghertil9235 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@tankman66not against lancet

  • @samuel10125
    @samuel10125 11 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah but there has to be a reason the Russians didn't use these from the get go if they are do effective which says they may have limited number.

    • @julmdamaslefttoe3559
      @julmdamaslefttoe3559 11 месяцев назад +1

      lol did you not see the manpads dropping RU helis last year, The skies are now clear so they can operate.

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 11 месяцев назад +1

      @julmdamaslefttoe3559 No I kinda stepped keeping up when I realised the outcome is certain that Ukraine is kicking ass.

    • @Retrosicotte
      @Retrosicotte 11 месяцев назад +2

      Because Russia was attacking then. Ka-52s are much more vulnerable in the attack than they are on the defence. Which is why they got so badly hurt then.

  • @paty11648
    @paty11648 11 месяцев назад

    Please stop comparing k-52 with useless Apache longbow

  • @FuriousFire898
    @FuriousFire898 11 месяцев назад +2

    How long till Ukraine slaps mirrors on there Tanks 😂

  • @kcthba6408
    @kcthba6408 7 месяцев назад

    Is that why already 30 to 40 have been blown out of the sky?

  • @zoljak2856
    @zoljak2856 9 месяцев назад

    Akkor az Alligátor helikopterből lehet katapultálni!A rotor lapátok leválnak és elszállnak b@szdmegisztánig!Jó kis masina!

  • @edwsal59
    @edwsal59 11 месяцев назад +18

    When the Ukrainians went on the current offensive, there was a video of troops moving to the front in small groups. Each small squad had about 50 antitank and anti aircraft weapons. I would say Putin's vulture has another problems to contend with.

    • @erikitter6773
      @erikitter6773 11 месяцев назад +29

      They are trying. But the pilots have to make a mistake (or work with bad intel) to get killed by short range air defense -- as they outrange that. Neither MANPAD nor Gepard can hit them at more than five kilometers range, with the Ka-52 having an ATGM that can be used eight kilometers out. Normally the air force would be supposed to be the counter to tank hunting helicopters (which is why Germany retired the Gepard when deciding what we can afford to keep spending on). Just the Ukraine does not have the planes and missiles to do that.

    • @ebiekem
      @ebiekem 11 месяцев назад +5

      Yep...a target rich environment.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-jw1nm3ge5h

    • @SRT10VIPER
      @SRT10VIPER 11 месяцев назад

      Stop smoking crack

    • @oldfashionedwrx3574
      @oldfashionedwrx3574 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@erikitter6773the planes can't get in, ?s400 coverage

  • @Yuri_Volkov
    @Yuri_Volkov 11 месяцев назад +3

    Yes, that is exactly what will happen! The F-16s will hunt the Ka-52s like on a safari, while the crews of the Su-35s and Su-57s and the S-400 crews will play backgammon at their airfields and launch pads.

  • @bombheadgames9565
    @bombheadgames9565 9 месяцев назад

    What makes it unique is it has no above rotor IOS so the helicopters have to fly above treetop level to sight their target . Stingers have 8km range and other mobile launchers 22 mile.. Like most Russian equipment its two decades behind the times.

    • @user-fn8jo2mo2d
      @user-fn8jo2mo2d 9 месяцев назад

      Source behind your statements?

    • @nnlukichev1
      @nnlukichev1 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-fn8jo2mo2dфантазёр

  • @dedyzee
    @dedyzee 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice Russia from Indonesian

  • @gedog77
    @gedog77 11 месяцев назад +1

    So what I take from this is they need the F16s they've asked for, and a lot more of the GBAD and and munitions they've also asked for... it's almost like they know what they need and are asking for it?

    • @johnnyenglish583
      @johnnyenglish583 11 месяцев назад

      And the West dithers and then gives them what they want 9 months too late and half the amount they need...

  • @strawwalker8177
    @strawwalker8177 11 месяцев назад +1

    Russian Helicopters had a big problem with stingers in Afghanistan.

    • @XCougar85X
      @XCougar85X 11 месяцев назад +1

      Those were much older hinds which did not have the same weapons and optics. Stingers would not be able to reach these at standoff ranges.

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 11 месяцев назад +1

      the same way apache had problems with rpgs in afghanistan and middle east

  • @jurgenmuller143
    @jurgenmuller143 11 месяцев назад

    With a mix of Crotale and Gepard in the avantgarde of the attacking units would quickly end this threat. I have no clue why Ukraine is not following this NATO doctrine?!

  • @eddychong9477
    @eddychong9477 11 месяцев назад

    "Battlefield survivability"
    *Hold my Stinger*

    • @VASILLEVSKI1878
      @VASILLEVSKI1878 11 месяцев назад +2

      Plenty of videos of the Ka-52 dodging stinger missiles and also flying after taking hits.

  • @drex8925
    @drex8925 11 месяцев назад +7

    No denying that the Russians have themselves a good bit of kit here. Not indestructible and very hard to replace though and they have already lost alot of them so I can see them running out of steam.

    • @victorzvyagintsev1325
      @victorzvyagintsev1325 11 месяцев назад +1

      Nothing is indestructible in this war.

    • @TheLastCrumb.
      @TheLastCrumb. 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@victorzvyagintsev1325the Ukrainian mindset Is

    • @victorzvyagintsev1325
      @victorzvyagintsev1325 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@TheLastCrumb. Both actually. Leopards be burning and all that.

    • @Monarch683
      @Monarch683 11 месяцев назад

      @@victorzvyagintsev1325 Some Leopards were destroyed but a couple were able to be recovered and repaired. The biggest difference between Western and Russian tanks though is crew survivability. The Ukrainian crews crewing these Leopards have been able to escape as evidenced by the hatches being left in the open position. Not only does this save a lot of money in the long run for the training, housing, feeding, and other things that a soldier would get like education or insurance, it also allows the crew to live to fight another day with valuable battle experience.

    • @victorzvyagintsev1325
      @victorzvyagintsev1325 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Monarch683 Plenty of abandoned T models of all kinds with open hatches, hence the common videos of quads dropping grenades down those hatches. You underestimate the survival rates of Soviet tank crews because you got it drilled into your head. Here is a good, well researched worst case scenario(mass ambush via RPGs fired from the rooftops of buildings) for tanks:
      When Russian tanks got ambushed in Grozny, it was calculated that on average 1 crew per tank was killed. In fact more cremembers died outside their tanks. Now this is absolute worst case not seen in Ukraine. Even the NLAW and Jevelins don't come close to the ammount of punishment Grozny tanks took.

  • @davidrickwood5924
    @davidrickwood5924 11 месяцев назад

    Great targets for Ukrainian missiles

  • @andylees2940
    @andylees2940 11 месяцев назад

    attack helicopters ???!!!

  • @ashfaquezskv4558
    @ashfaquezskv4558 11 месяцев назад

    But the west want us to believe the Russian tech sucks😂

  • @zodiac3190
    @zodiac3190 11 месяцев назад

    Haven't the Germans supplyed Anti aircraft tanks

  • @High_7
    @High_7 11 месяцев назад

    It's an eagle.

  • @davidrickwood5924
    @davidrickwood5924 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lots of Russian planes and helicopters destroyed

    • @VASILLEVSKI1878
      @VASILLEVSKI1878 11 месяцев назад

      Not a single one shot down by Ukraine since the counter offensive started. Ka-52 has destroyed many Bradleys, Leopards and MRAPs.

  • @konackt
    @konackt 11 месяцев назад

    Was expecting discussion of M-SHORAD, but I yet again over estimated the quality of our "experts".

  • @bimbo-yw6ny
    @bimbo-yw6ny 10 месяцев назад

    they have bunch of stinger and streak,

  • @GlenCychosz
    @GlenCychosz 11 месяцев назад

    I bet Spike NLOS would work great for destroying them.

  • @j.4332
    @j.4332 11 месяцев назад

    the russians have one flaw-crews brave enough.

  • @shahin5153
    @shahin5153 9 месяцев назад

    That figure of 30 something 52s being destroyed is complete bs and has been debunked by impartial analysis of geolocations and times of the pictures of alligators as well the serial/aircraft number and crews, in fact the number of 52s destroyed is around the 12-15 range, with there being around 15-18 recovered, repaired & redeployed

  • @lohrtom
    @lohrtom 11 месяцев назад +1

    Not hard to shoot down

  • @tulgatuvshin6344
    @tulgatuvshin6344 10 месяцев назад +2

    NATO caput

  • @rogeriomourasabino9539
    @rogeriomourasabino9539 11 месяцев назад

    POVO de ORAÇÃO. Vamos jejuar e ORA . DEUS NÃO VAI MAIS PERMITIR ESSAS ATROCIDADES. ESTÁ ESCRITO EM ÉFESIOS CAP 5 VER 12 . ( A ARMADURA DE DEUS. POVO DE DEUS VAMOS ORAR CEM PARAR . CESSAR.

  • @oscarnovelo5115
    @oscarnovelo5115 8 месяцев назад +1

    They can use whatever they still russia will béat the hell ouais ukraine.

  • @DudeFrom1972
    @DudeFrom1972 11 месяцев назад

    I wonder if the anti-aircraft-gun tanks (Flakpanzer Gepard) ukraine received from germany is capable of protecting armored vehicles against incoming laser guided missiles as well ?

    • @mkultra3679
      @mkultra3679 11 месяцев назад +1

      Probably not, since the missile is too hard to detect on radar.... However, the gepard could take down the helicopter easily if it's gets in range...

    • @andrewhayes7055
      @andrewhayes7055 11 месяцев назад +1

      No

    • @TheBongReyes
      @TheBongReyes 11 месяцев назад

      Gepards can easily take down any helicopter. But it has to be in range and have enough time to engage the target. Manpads can easily do the same job. But again, it has to be able to see and target the helicopters. If Russian attack helicopters are engaging behind Russian lines and using “pop-up” tactics, the window to target, lock and engage is very limited. That’s the reason why AH-64s were so effective against Iraq and how Apaches were able to mail Wagner forces in Syria.
      As the video stated, you have to be able to see those Ka-52s to shoot them down. Early in the war, Ukraine was able to shoot down many Russian aircraft because they were on the defensive. Attacking brings more danger no matter how skill your forces are and how bad the defending forces are.

    • @andrewhayes7055
      @andrewhayes7055 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheBongReyes yes but not when the target is sitting 10km away and firing laser guided missiles at it🙂

    • @tankman66
      @tankman66 11 месяцев назад +1

      No the radar equipped on gepard is not capable of doing that

  • @moshoodbakare1210
    @moshoodbakare1210 11 месяцев назад

    During the Soviet-Afghan war, the Mujahideen called the Mil 24 attack helicopter "Arba Shaitan," meaning "Satan's Chariot."

  • @darthhampster2045
    @darthhampster2045 11 месяцев назад

    Only as a falling object…..how many did they start the war with, and how many do they have now? ;)

    • @VASILLEVSKI1878
      @VASILLEVSKI1878 11 месяцев назад +2

      More were produced since the war started. Now they are being used for what they were designed and the result is destroyed M2 Bradleys, Leopard tanks, MRAPs and more.

  • @8888shooter
    @8888shooter 11 месяцев назад

    Let loose the HIMARS rockets onto their airbases!!!

    • @ahmedalsharman
      @ahmedalsharman 11 месяцев назад +1

      HIMARS has been useless in the last 5 months , as the Russian been jamming them , Storm shadow is the only thing the Ukrainian has & can do the Job.

  • @Retroscoop
    @Retroscoop 11 месяцев назад

    1) Use the Gepards the West apparantly has provided this year according to Wiki: On 26 April 2022, the German government authorized Krauss-Maffei Wegmann to transfer 50 refurbished Flakpanzer Gepard anti-aircraft vehicles to Ukraine.[30] The first three Gepards arrived in Ukraine on 25 July 2022.[31] By 8 March 2023, 34 Gepards had been delivered, with an additional 3 still being prepared.[32] On 13 May 2023, the German Defence Ministry announced an additional fifteen Gepards would be sent to Ukraine,[33] bringing the total number pledged to 52. Problem: Gepard sees helico's coming while still 15 km away (helico sees tanks at 10 km), but Gepard only can hit Alligators from about 5 km (while Alligator destroyys tanks from 10 km)
    2) Hence: the UA needs capabilities to destroy the Ka's at max while on the ground, preferably parked closely together. Special commando's, artillery etc., they all should focus on them. Take the Alligators out, and all of a sudden a lot becomes possible.

  • @Missybee656
    @Missybee656 11 месяцев назад

    Lol Western media nobody can destroy the Leopard2 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @josephnguyen3730
    @josephnguyen3730 11 месяцев назад +2

    Go Ukrainian go ❤

  • @strawwalker8177
    @strawwalker8177 11 месяцев назад

    Wagner group didn'y have a problem shooting them down.. I wonder if the Ukraine army has just older models of Stingers

  • @antonycollins22
    @antonycollins22 11 месяцев назад +2

    Yer great piece of equipment not? Wagner shot 3 down with impunity, just sayin like😊

    • @FuriousFire898
      @FuriousFire898 11 месяцев назад +2

      Quite a side quest
      Cause a coup to destroy Ka 52s

    • @tankman66
      @tankman66 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@FuriousFire898absolutely

  • @user-gl2hd2nq9d
    @user-gl2hd2nq9d 11 месяцев назад +1

    Shovels at work 😂

  • @strawwalker8177
    @strawwalker8177 11 месяцев назад

    Helicopters are dead in the water if the Ukraine has Stingers

    • @davelane9366
      @davelane9366 11 месяцев назад

      They've got manpads like stinger, but the helicopters can stay beyond the range of them.

  • @Robin6512
    @Robin6512 11 месяцев назад

    Maybe send some gepards as cover for the tanks. Tanks in the open. Gepard in hiding taking out these tankkillers

  • @fgm1197
    @fgm1197 11 месяцев назад

    Send F16s for crying out loud!!!!!!! There are hundreds if not thousands mothballed in the US deserts combat ready in a few months!

  • @soton5teve
    @soton5teve 11 месяцев назад

    Could 🇫🇷 give ukraine the eurocopter tiger ?

  • @stupidburp
    @stupidburp 11 месяцев назад

    Most of them have already been shot down

  • @michaeldoran4977
    @michaeldoran4977 11 месяцев назад

    Blow them out of the sky Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

    • @davelane9366
      @davelane9366 11 месяцев назад

      That's a great idea😅, they'd best get enough kit to gain air superiority then, instead of sending soldiers in without air cover on a suicide mission.

  • @oldpain7625
    @oldpain7625 11 месяцев назад

    F-16s will take care of those no problem.

  • @johnhopkins6260
    @johnhopkins6260 11 месяцев назад +2

    KA-52: NATO code name: "piñata"

    • @Aeronaut1975
      @Aeronaut1975 11 месяцев назад

      Hokum. All helicopters start with the letter "H".

  • @righteousbyfaithinChrist
    @righteousbyfaithinChrist 11 месяцев назад

    I would like to know where these pilots are from??? Flying these helicopters of Russia?
    What country of origin? Hmmmm. Different flavor I'm sensing???

  • @sidewalks29
    @sidewalks29 11 месяцев назад

    just put L3Harris VAMPIRE & (APKWS) to do air defence systems jobs.