At 35:36, you pay 4 mana to cast Consign to Memory with 1 replicate to play around trinisphere. Trinisphere does not care about the spells CMC, it cares about how much mana was spent to cast it. You CAN just double replicate it (U2 total CMC) to get three instances of Consign to Memory and Trinisphere sees you having spent 3 mana to cast a spell. You can just target either the Ulamog or the Cast trigger twice and it will still be a legal target because it's on the stack. This is how shattering spree interacts with trinisphere as well, and you can do this to beat chalice on 1, 2, and trinisphere when playing storm, for example (cast shattering spree with 2 replicates, trinisphere sees 3 mana spent, target chalice on 1 with the OG cast, and then trinisphere and chalice on 2 with the replicates). Chalice on 1 will counter the original cast, and then the 2 replicates will destroy trinisphere and chalice on 2, enabling all your juicy rituals. Trinisphere is a weird magic card and I hate it not because of what it does, but because of how confusing and unintuitive the card is.
I know I’m super late to this video, but I just found you guys 🙂. Just wanted to say at 8:46, the tron player could not scry/draw with Kozilek command because he cast the One Ring on his turn, so he still has the protection and cannot target himself. This is a very easy to miss interaction. Love the chemistry between y’all though, glad I found your channel!
I love tron so much. I played it a lot in pauper and have a blast. Seems like the new modern set really pushed Tron into a powerful spot once Nadu is gone. Cannot wait to see my favorite deck keep on rocking people. Hats off to Neon for putting on the bravest face ive ever seen. That was NOT easy to watch him just keep losing all his lands.
@@neonmushroom6763 Bro I've been in that spot a few times before so I know how you feel. Be proud of the fact you can take it on the chin and laugh it off. Because not many can do that. Well done my dude!
The One Ring indeed does not stop the Koz Command exile as cards in your graveyard are not covered. "If a player has protection from everything, it means three things: 1) All damage that would be dealt to that player is prevented. 2) Auras can't be attached to that player. 3) That player can't be the target of spells or abilities." Targeting cards in your grave is not targeting you. The same would go for surgical extraction. The only thing it targets is the card in the graveyard. It will still be able to search your grave, hand, and library to yoink additional copies as well.
You can actually sideboard with a karn board. Idk if I'd do it against control but it's definitely something to consider. Like bringing in karn targets that aren't first picks in the match up but still good and taking out bad stuff.
you aren't properly testing if you don't actually mulligan. A deck like Amulet Titan for example would seem INFINITELY better if you mulligan 3-4 times but kept 6 each time in testing, and then feel like garbage once you actually play. You don't learn what a good 6 is if you just keep going to 6 over and over again, since you don't know WHY a mid 6 might be better than whatever 5 you draw.
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Yayyyyy more modern cardboard crack. Thanks Shroom dad. Love the content bb
You're very welcome my lil cardboard goblin
You cant have jegantha as a companion with Kozilek's command/devourer of destiny.
Yeah someone caught that,, we missed that one
At 35:36, you pay 4 mana to cast Consign to Memory with 1 replicate to play around trinisphere.
Trinisphere does not care about the spells CMC, it cares about how much mana was spent to cast it. You CAN just double replicate it (U2 total CMC) to get three instances of Consign to Memory and Trinisphere sees you having spent 3 mana to cast a spell. You can just target either the Ulamog or the Cast trigger twice and it will still be a legal target because it's on the stack.
This is how shattering spree interacts with trinisphere as well, and you can do this to beat chalice on 1, 2, and trinisphere when playing storm, for example (cast shattering spree with 2 replicates, trinisphere sees 3 mana spent, target chalice on 1 with the OG cast, and then trinisphere and chalice on 2 with the replicates). Chalice on 1 will counter the original cast, and then the 2 replicates will destroy trinisphere and chalice on 2, enabling all your juicy rituals.
Trinisphere is a weird magic card and I hate it not because of what it does, but because of how confusing and unintuitive the card is.
Ohhhhhh ok that is really weird. But very good to know thank you v much
Keep on keeping on!!
I'll try papi
I know I’m super late to this video, but I just found you guys 🙂. Just wanted to say at 8:46, the tron player could not scry/draw with Kozilek command because he cast the One Ring on his turn, so he still has the protection and cannot target himself. This is a very easy to miss interaction. Love the chemistry between y’all though, glad I found your channel!
Good catch buddy, I just found out about that like a week ago.
Tysm glad you're enjoying
I love yall's energy and this tron deck is golden. Thank you for the awesome games
And thank you for watching bb, I appreciate you
Lots of fun to watch :) In regards to getting rid of your own ring Ulamog can also exile it :)
V tru, he had around 6 diff ways to win, they all good
this is the best magic content ive ever seen.. thank you so much!
Very happy you like it buddy
Etron can't present Jegantha as a companion in the games because of devourer and kozileks command right?
I think thats actually tru, I gotta go look into it but I think good catch
You're so right!
We missed that.
I love tron so much. I played it a lot in pauper and have a blast. Seems like the new modern set really pushed Tron into a powerful spot once Nadu is gone. Cannot wait to see my favorite deck keep on rocking people. Hats off to Neon for putting on the bravest face ive ever seen. That was NOT easy to watch him just keep losing all his lands.
Lmao I'm glad you liked it buddy because it hurt me emotionally lmao
@@neonmushroom6763 Bro I've been in that spot a few times before so I know how you feel. Be proud of the fact you can take it on the chin and laugh it off. Because not many can do that. Well done my dude!
The One Ring indeed does not stop the Koz Command exile as cards in your graveyard are not covered. "If a player has protection from everything, it means three things: 1) All damage that would be dealt to that player is prevented. 2) Auras can't be attached to that player. 3) That player can't be the target of spells or abilities." Targeting cards in your grave is not targeting you. The same would go for surgical extraction. The only thing it targets is the card in the graveyard. It will still be able to search your grave, hand, and library to yoink additional copies as well.
Okay cool, I was slightly worried we messed it up
@@neonmushroom6763 nah, you just messed up Jegantha, though I don’t think that was super impactful
Eldrazi is my favorite tribe, so this was alot and i mean, alot of fun to watch
It hurt me v badly but I'm happy you liked it anyway
You can actually sideboard with a karn board. Idk if I'd do it against control but it's definitely something to consider. Like bringing in karn targets that aren't first picks in the match up but still good and taking out bad stuff.
Oh yeah for sure, this matchup just doesn't call for it
Reasons I still run a (mostly) energyless version of jeskai control. I wont be caught dead not running bolts when my opp has 1 life.
Lmao v fair
TRIN TRON TRON TRON TRON TRON TRON!!!!! WOOO
TRON TRON TRON
Tron doing Tron things!
Like always, gotta love it
@@neonmushroom6763 I don't know if you *have* to, god knows I've gotten kicked in the teeth in pauper with it enough to hate it.
In game 1 when Adrian casts wrath for x=7, why didnt the one ring get destroyed?
Because the one ring is indestructible
@@neonmushroom6763 derp
See. Did max atleast do his taxes? Playing torn seems like the perfect way to commit something illegal
Yeah no he a felon
More Psychic Frog paper content please ❤
Oh that's coming so soon
tron is neat :)
You're neat
How are you playing jegantha in the deck?
Mistake
Didn't realize cards like Devourer have double pips, just a dumb brain fart
Ok. Sickest Invert Polarity. Too bad He had the other one.
I was heart broken
@@neonmushroom6763 Have to play to your outs! Love the series!
I feel dirty after watching this
Im dirty irl but thats not the point
Don't shower
If you are testing probably stop at mulligan to 6. No need to go to 5
We've talked about that before but I think there are a solid amount of games where you have to play 5
We do try to limit how often we do it tho
you aren't properly testing if you don't actually mulligan.
A deck like Amulet Titan for example would seem INFINITELY better if you mulligan 3-4 times but kept 6 each time in testing, and then feel like garbage once you actually play.
You don't learn what a good 6 is if you just keep going to 6 over and over again, since you don't know WHY a mid 6 might be better than whatever 5 you draw.
look how they massacred my boy...
It hurt
3 lands = 7 mana.
v easy maths
Or 10 if somehow you have Forsaken Monument. It's a beautiful thing.