14:21 By bring them to consciousness, they can spiritualize themselves. *"One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness concious"* ~ Carl Jung, The Alchemical Studies
3:40 love love the talk. the fool card, i think her need to rely on her eyes is cheating is what makes her fool. not the blindfold. that helps her rely on something else
I’m only a minute & a half in, and already pretty excited about this video . I checked out Robert M. Place’s website and I have it open on another tab . if you, Robert, happen to come across this comment, I’m curious to ask: you write that you “became fascinated by an alchemical hieroglyph representing the Philosopher’s Stone” while reading the _Picture Museum of Sorcery, Magic, & Alchemy_ . what was the specific figure that fascinated you?
Too few view the Tarot as psychological lessons. It is important to allow people their own self-definition. Rearranging the cards to tell a story is important, but there are a number of angles to look from to see a different order than Aliph to Tau. The descent through The Zodiac, Prudence & Gluttony, Justice & Envy, Strength & Anger, Faith & Pride, Temperance & Lust, Charity & Greed, and Hope & Sloth into the Soul Center is an important consideration when looking at Tarot Platonically. The Fool, The Female Pope for Air, The Emperor for Fire, The Empress for Water, The Pope for Earth, The Lovers, The Chariot, Justice, The Hermit, Fortune, The Hanged Man, Death, Temperance, Strength, The Devil, The Tower, Justice, The Moon, The Sun, Judgement, and the World as three stages of soul, mind, and body are also important considerations.
+Nobody Here He has a book on alchemy which covers some similar themes www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Tarot-Examination-Historical-Connection/dp/0615543421/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1457310329&sr=8-3&keywords=robert+m+place
PS: Can you confirm which version of the Sevenfold Mystery deck you guys were working with there? The cards seem to be larger? Or is that just my imagination.
+Angelo Nasios Vitruvius didn't write Lives of the Artists, Vasari did. Vitruvius lived BCE and couldn't possibly give a name to the Renaissance. Vasari as contemporary of Michelangelo could and did; he was the first to use the word rinascita.
@8:34 A rather mumbly manner (over-all) - not a lecturer & with a gun-scatter knowledge base - @9:14 *_Duhkha_* Place takes a lot of liberties here - _Duhkha_ refers to the fundamental unsatisfactoriness and painfulness of mundane existence. It is the first of the Four Noble Truths In Pali *_Dukkha_* is a term found in ancient Indian literature, and encompasses anything that is uneasy, uncomfortable, unpleasant, difficult, causing pain or sadness - William Stede - The term _ does not have a one-word English translation. It embodies diverse aspects of unpleasant human experiences. & go easy on the caffeine, soldier -
Thank you for bringing Robert Place to us, especially talking about Neo Platonism and the Sevenfold Mystery! Thank you so much!!
+Nobody Here You are welcome! He is a brilliant man, I was happy to get him on camera.
@@AngeloNasios You should have him do the same thing with his alchemical tarot!
14:21 By bring them to consciousness, they can spiritualize themselves.
*"One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness concious"* ~ Carl Jung, The Alchemical Studies
Robert Place rocks!
3:40 love love the talk. the fool card, i think her need to rely on her eyes is cheating is what makes her fool. not the blindfold. that helps her rely on something else
Profound indeed. This moved me deeply, stirring my soul. Thanks to you both, gentlemen.
Thanks Kathy!
I’m only a minute & a half in, and already pretty excited about this video . I checked out Robert M. Place’s website and I have it open on another tab . if you, Robert, happen to come across this comment, I’m curious to ask: you write that you “became fascinated by an alchemical hieroglyph representing the Philosopher’s Stone” while reading the _Picture Museum of Sorcery, Magic, & Alchemy_ . what was the specific figure that fascinated you?
this was a fascinating chat about neoplatonism. Robert M Place explained it so well. I was interested from start to finish. Thank you!
+Starlight Reading Glad to hear that. This is important materiel.
Very nice, I just ordered his cards!💛
wow, so well explained Mr. Robert! thank you for this video, Angelo.
Thank you so very much Angelo for this fascinating interview with Robert M. Place ...so very special...i actually made notes !!
Thank you so much for sharing these profound interviews🤗
Wow. Thank you
Totally fascinating!
Brilliant. Thank you.
Wow! Best tarot explanation I’ve ever heard, and concise as well. I’ll be coming back to this video again and again. So much information!
Too few view the Tarot as psychological lessons.
It is important to allow people their own self-definition.
Rearranging the cards to tell a story is important, but there are a number of angles to look from to see a different order than Aliph to Tau.
The descent through The Zodiac, Prudence & Gluttony, Justice & Envy, Strength & Anger, Faith & Pride, Temperance & Lust, Charity & Greed, and Hope & Sloth into the Soul Center is an important consideration when looking at Tarot Platonically.
The Fool, The Female Pope for Air, The Emperor for Fire, The Empress for Water, The Pope for Earth, The Lovers, The Chariot, Justice, The Hermit, Fortune, The Hanged Man, Death, Temperance, Strength, The Devil, The Tower, Justice, The Moon, The Sun, Judgement, and the World as three stages of soul, mind, and body are also important considerations.
how did you get into his dning room? im guessing its his because of the phone ring tone.
Angelo, one more question: Does he have a book about this? About neoplatonism and tarot specifically?
+Nobody Here He has a book on alchemy which covers some similar themes
www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Tarot-Examination-Historical-Connection/dp/0615543421/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1457310329&sr=8-3&keywords=robert+m+place
Thank you!
How can I purchase his tarot decks in Europe?
PS: Can you confirm which version of the Sevenfold Mystery deck you guys were working with there? The cards seem to be larger? Or is that just my imagination.
+Nobody Here Its the first edition.
I guess Robert Place meant Vasari when he said Vitruvius...?
+Nemia H Not sure.
+Angelo Nasios
Vitruvius didn't write Lives of the Artists, Vasari did. Vitruvius lived BCE and couldn't possibly give a name to the Renaissance. Vasari as contemporary of Michelangelo could and did; he was the first to use the word rinascita.
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Ah ok, thank you for the correction.
If I were a god, I'd have Robert Place, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Carl Jung have a long 3-way dinner conversation. That woud be F-ing brilliant.
why do the gods get so pissed off and punishing when mortals succeed in reaching the heavens?
@8:34 A rather mumbly manner (over-all) - not a lecturer & with a gun-scatter knowledge base - @9:14 *_Duhkha_* Place takes a lot of liberties here - _Duhkha_ refers to the fundamental unsatisfactoriness and painfulness of mundane existence.
It is the first of the Four Noble Truths
In Pali *_Dukkha_* is a term found in ancient Indian literature, and encompasses anything that is uneasy, uncomfortable, unpleasant, difficult, causing pain or sadness - William Stede -
The term _ does not have a one-word English translation. It embodies diverse aspects of unpleasant human experiences.
& go easy on the caffeine, soldier -
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