I don't even want seasons, because it seems after how many years they still haven't fixed the AI so sims don't freeze to death in pools? I guess they decided it was a feature. And It seems like they made gardening too complicated tok with seasons so, I'll make my first expansion pack be the one with the 27-lot Windenberg if I get anything.
@@steggopotamus Honestly the pool thing makes sense to me. I mean, who uses an outdoor pool in the winter anyway (heck, where I live most people don't even keep water in their pools during the winter)?
Or they could have at least add a trait or a reward trait for cold immu- wait a minute. Theres an immune to cold trait, isnt there? Does that not work for swimming in cold pools?
@@steggopotamus well they added an achievement and a holiday event for these polar swims, so maybe... You just have to be careful and not leave them in too long. Maybe it's to balance the fact they can't drown from removing the ladder any more?
Small detail. But I wish they could have allowed us to choose how our Sims handle their idle phones. Not even approaching the topic of how unimmersive it is for outdoorsy/off-the-grid Sims to be constantly whipping out smartphones. But being someone who isn't addicted and glued to my phone 24/7 I would like to have characters that I can relate to more, especially the more tech-resistant characters as their entire personalities are completely invalidated by this obsessive interaction they do every five literal seconds. It's almost a parody animation, as if Sims team was trying to do a "Young people are ALWAYS literally ALWAYS on their phones, so let's set this idle to a 50/50 chance to happen every 30 in-game seconds" kind of thing.
Furthermore. They aren't even doing anything on their phones when they use them. It's literally just an idle animation designed to get in the way of other animations, or stack on top of other idle animations and bog up the A"I". There is no actual reason for Sims to be checking their phones in the first place
Something they should have started a long time ago is hobbies that result in idle animations. Having some yo-yo skill and a yo-yo in your inventory would mean your sim whips that out instead of a phone when idling. Sims could have fidget spinners, fix their makeup, dig through their pockets or any number of idle animations based on what's in their inventory and what skills and interests they have. Of course these kinds of features would get culled very early in the design process because they don't translate into immediate profit like half baked game packs about toddlers or babies do.
@@SineN0mine3 such a great idea!! I'd love it if the sims 4 would bring back aspects of the sims 2 hobbies packs, or just the ability to subscribe and read the newspaper... super simple but just the quality of little snippets make the game so cute! I'mma go play Sims 2
@@SineN0mine3 They actually had those in Sims 2. Sims with a high level of enthusiasm in games- or science, can't remember which- a will often pull out a Rubik's cube while idle, fitness Sims will jog in place a bit, art Sims will make make frames with their hands and look through them as though scoping out the art in the room, etc. Even aspirations had a bit of this, with the thought bubbles Sims get when idle. A family Sim will often think about babies or family members, fortune Sims ponder on matters of money, Romance Sims... Well you can probably guess what they tend to think about! 😉
Imo the celebration center should’ve been replaced with a daycare lot. This could be a place where your sims could go to work and take care of infants, toddlers, and maybe children. I loved the daycare career from Sims 3, and it would’ve been so cool to bring it back in sims 4. I know there’s a daycare career mod but I play on console ☹️
I've always found it strange how children don't need a nanny, like they're losing their first tooth and going to school for the first time but they can stay home alone without an adult for hours?
@@seadragonpirate8195 it feels like a gen x thing that made it into the game. But I like the your point, it would be a good reason to inroduce tweens in that they don't need a nanny. Also, kids should be able to try doing a thing and it goes completely horribly but they're proud anyway. "Used dad's wood working table" and it destroys the table somehow.
"if you click on this sign next to it, it comes with a really innovative feature called walking." nearly choked on my drink laughing too hard at that. love our british sarcasm and i love this video, great job satch!
recently on twitter i saw someone ask sth like “are you a cas girlie or a buildmode girlie“ meaning whats your favorite thing to do in sims 4. PLAYING THE GAME not even being an option is so💀 do they know theres videogames you pay money for you can actually play and not just pretend to play after creating your character
The first time I came across a certqin style of lp I thought I had been missing out on all kinds of interactions, come to learn theybwere pretending but like hardcore. I get having a character and a it of a storyline but full on playing like I'm playing barbies as a child no. It.still weirds me out those 1s. And the amount of what do if your bored type vids with sims 4 is telling lol
I didn't play any non free-to-downloud video games until I was 18 and had my own credit card, My mum never allowed me to insert her card into any device that's connected to the internet bc she was paranoid that it would get stolen. And there weren't that many video games you'd buy physically at that point, so all I had were free mobile games and flash games. I can't be the only gen z who grew up like that, so no wonder we find ts4 so awesome, no pop-up ads for completely other gamed in the middle of gameplay, that's how low our bar is. So yeah, there is a good chance a lot of simmers (especially young ones like me who didn't play the prev games) have no concept of a high quality game you'd pay for that is made for the players and not for the advertisers. I stopped playing ts4 the second I got an actual good game that I paid for
@@fruity4820 its also interesting to note that the sims 4 was not free at launch, it cost around $80 Australian Dollars. And it was actually a steaming pile. it had no features compared to the sims 3, which I played a lot as a kid. Honestly, it being free now makes some of their shortcomings slightly more acceptable, but its still egregious to me that you have to pay for DLC to have a game worth playing.
@@fruity4820As a cusper who was lucky enough to play all of the previous sims, I’ve never thought of it from the perspective of kids who grew up in the mobile game era. You’re right - to be given a free game that (in comparison to the other crap they try to pass off as games nowadays) isn’t a disguise to try to sell you something or micro-transact you to death, I can see why the younger generation would ride so hard for TS4. It would be hard to recognize it as what it is when it’s the best you were given for so long.
I only got Growing Together to make infants more bearable. When I had just base game with infants they were horrible to play with and I would just age them up immediately but after I got Growing Together they were more bearable to play with. I wish this was just a base game update cause nobody should have to pay that much money to make their game playable.
I feel the opposite, GT made infants worse for me until I got a mod that doesn’t make every milestone take forever. There wasn’t enough time in the sim day to do enough tummy time to get the kid to crawling and have my Sim work. Especially not on a normal lifespan. Before I knew it, the kid was spawning from infant to toddler and I hadn’t gotten most milestones. Not to mention how many GT infant quirks make them fight going to sleep even when they are exhausted. I don’t care if its “realistic”, its annoying for the hyper speed of a video game where you are trying to get a family’s needs balanced.
I agree with dawnofVanlife, I'm specifically not buying that pack because I like that BG infants can crawl immediately, I like that I don't have to fiddle around and give them tummy time. I bottlefeed, change, holt for a bit sometimes and ignore for most of the time. Considering how hard it is to do just that (where instead without baby and parent stare at each other endlessly) adding any more difficulty is ridiculous.
@@TheDawnofVanlifeI think it's kind of funny that everyone talks about want more realism in this game, and yet when we get it people complain it's too much.
Generations: Parenthood, Toddler Stuff, Highschool Years, Get Together, Life and Death, Laundrey Day, Kids Room Stuff, Lovestruck, My Wedding Stories (over 200$ US for not even a full generations experience)
not to "but actually" you, but laundry is part of Ambitions for TS3. But your point still stands, Generations is incredible. And Ambitions is GTW and Laundry Day and probably some other kits all combined. TS3 supremacy imo.
You are spot on. Please do High School Years next. I hate that pack! (You may also compare the pack it with the ad they had.) It was released 2.5 years ago and is still so buggy - graduation is a mess, football and cheerleading days are bizarre, high school side hustles are broken. Crushes follow sims into adulthood - keeping a romantic relationship line between young adults and teens. They could have done so much with that pack - and we got a world with rabbit holes… so very disappointing.
Yea its crazy how many features are advertised in that pack. Ferris Wheel, along with other rides, different afterschool activities, but no, theyre all rabbit holes🥲
I know EA hates to see Satch coming haha and as they should. I'm glad I found this channel because it's like someone is venting out my frustrations for me
I agree. We need folks like Satch to take the piss out of these EA practices. If EA was only given “positive” feedback, imagine how even more lacking this game could be 😂
@@aBlackSh33p New game pack : The Art of Being Bored. Watch paint dry, puddles evaporate, clouds, rain fall, snow fall, leaves fall, piles of leaves rot and get stinky, food getting spoiled,...
I seriously dislike that they are not any fishing spots in San Sequoia by the pier. Would be nice when you walk down on the docks your sim can look at the boats or watch the waves. In Snowy Escape I wish they added cross country skiing and can ski in other worlds. That walking area would be great in the winter where you can ski.
No because seriously. Isn't the world supposed to be fishing themed? Docks, piers boats? Why can't we fish in the lake that takes up half the map ...It's honestly more than insulting.
Fr tho I did a rag to riches there and was looking everywhere thinking it was gonna have something. I was gagged when I realized there wasn't a single one.
this is something i've noticed that i never see anyone talk about. in the base game worlds there's a fishing spot every few feet and it feels like it just got... whittled down pack by pack. hell even in magnolia promenade that gtw world no one remembers exists there are several spots. but i bought a newer pack the other day and found literally none in my neighborhood. made a pond on my lot for the first time
@@sarris3712 San Sequoia is my least favorite world from the packs I have. So much missed oportunity there. I despise Hopewell Hills, I never use in my saves.
i hate how they put the female hairstyles on the male frames like WHY CAN’T THE MALES HAVE SOMETHING ORIGINAL and they do this with kid sims as well they just have the adult hairstyles like… can we please get separate child hairstyles please????
I actually prefer it if the hairstyles match up over different ages because i hate having to go onto CAS and change it when they age up. Sometimes their hair totally changes if you pick one that doesn't have a matching hairstyle in the age their turning. Honestly I don't think there's enough of female hairstyles either. It seems like most of the ones we have are redundantly similar to ones we already had. Older sims games had fewer styles overall but more variety imo.
It’s very much so cheap and lazy. 6-8 fucking hairs, 4 males and 2-4 females each pack is a ridiculous waste of money. Not to mention that particular hair was really fucking ugly (seriously, what were they going for? That one Drake image?) and it just makes the sim look like they have a pushed back hairline or clown cut.
I only watch these sims 4 videos because I can get my daily fix of sarcastic humour here and that saves me a fortune in therapy. It's so therapeutic. 😅
The real life rec centers I've been to (USA) have had like, big rock climbing walls. Indoor pools (one for kids/average people and one for athletes). Courts for basketball, volleyball, tennis, indoor track. And a bunch of classrooms for different things that had actual classes with people teaching them. Plus the rooms for events/kids birthday parties. Yeah, they didn't include enough on the lot for it to make sense, problem is both fragmentation of DLC content and a lack of ambition. EA wasnt gonna improve public pools for this DLC, or include activities like basketball they already put in a different pack.
Main thing that separates a rec center from a gym or public pool are all the different courts for different sports, bigass rock climbing wall, and the different classes available.
don't worry! They'll make more DLC about sports, daycare and climbing walls but they'll be in separate DLC! so you have to pay about a 1500$+ to get all of that in your rec center!
@@Elephantian-joy already got the climbing wall in fitness stuff. just gotta give them time to steal the baby center from the cc people that created the mod for it.
Especially since you can just... go there anytime anyway. Vacation lots make sense in place where you can't go otherwise (like the travel destinations in Sims 2 and 3 and even 4), but worlds where you can just... walk in and out in the day, why?
I was excited about milestones because I loved memories in the sims 2. It was a fun way to look back at important events in your sims life and you could learn so much lore about the premade townies by checking theirs. Sims 4 milestones are super limited being tied to one pack. Every tiny thing an infant does is a milestone but there's so many things older sims can do that don't register as one.
we def need shopping malls, medieval pack with medieal town realm, vintage pack, royalty pack, middle age and preteen addition, 2 hairstyle kits 1 for black sims 1 for white sims, pet kit with dog kennel, better pregnancy + infant stuff (strollers+pacifier) + parrots + more hair and eye colors + better genetics (dominant/recessive genes) + better family trees + bridgerton pack + cute dresses (cottagecore + trendy +vintage) + african and arabic world + more drama + more chaos
The only reason I was excited for this pack was the classrooms and the botany experience ... and both of those were lies. I do actually enjoy the added family activities from this pack, but it was sold under the expectation of so much more.
The thing that shits me about growing together milestones is the game not telling you how many there's supposed to be. I think it's interesting for players like me who play with aging off (to compromise for the fact that everything else is unbalanced and no fun) so it means i don't instantly age up every baby or toddler, but I don't know if I'm missing any milestones before i age them up because there's not list of the incomplete ones. I don't think I've ever used them after the toddler age anyway. It feels very tacked on.
I was just thinking about this the other day, i would LOVE THIS! I want to have a band or a pop star sim so badly, would blend in nicely with get famous too!
I have never played SIms 4 but watch your videos religiously. I swear every single video never fails to shock me at how low effort the sims 4 is, it makes me so sad!! Can never beat the first 3 sims games.
WHY didn’t they make the Arboretum a unique to that world building where you could go and get plant samples to plant? I think it would have added value to the pack and given people a reason to visit that world.
Satch, if EA created too many NPC then Judith Ward or Eliza Pancakes wouldn't show up everywhere. And that would be the GREATEST tradgey since the latest gamebreaking bugs 🤣🤣🤣
Majority of the hairstyles in the pack are for black sims. Maybe that's why they don't appeal to you. But as a black simmer I like the hairs. But I do agree that there should be more.
@@Heavenlyheart0Satch isn’t one to insult black hairstyles out of spite. I think he genuinely thinks there’s not designed that well. He’s complimented other black hair styles from other packs before
it would have been SO cool with growing together, when they had a milestone you had the optioon to take a screenshot or small video of it happening and when a sim died you could watch their milestones. how cool would that have been.
I've stop buying packs when they release the "Growing Together" DLC. As a sims player, who has been playing sims since sims 2, I can't accept that baby changing table is not include in the base game, and they dare to not give us in the free update. I actually think the whole DLC should be in the base game. Now I go back to play Sims2 and never look back to Sims4.
i’m not saying i love rabbit holes, but i always wonder why they don’t just add more rabbit holes!! give us a rabbit hole grocery store, a movie theater, random shops. and just add more lots for houses, they can even be empty! there’s just no reason for such a gigantic empty world
@@Poptanic Seriously... anyone who's heard about how those creator lots are done can tell that everything he complains about is from either the pack items or EA's build restrictions, not the actual builder. That lot never had a chance.
@@AgentAsteriskiHe was complaining about the gameplay features for the lot type anyway, nothing to do with lilsimsie. She only built the lot that she was asked to build for the game, the Sims team failed to come up with an interesting new lot type or a reason for rec centres to be in the game.
i actually like the recreation center lot type. i use it as a gym/library, put a coffee bar and chef kitchen in there, bunch of grills--and now i can just go to one place to do shit/skillbuild. its perfect for rags to riches and freeing up lots in the world although that specific build is ...not it 😭
Same. The rec center lot type is kinda perfect for a lot of multifunction uses. I have one in Winderburg with a basment rink, food stalls, bowling alley, gym, and movie theater. Great one lot stop for a family day out. It really helps in smaller worlds where having everything be a separate would just lead to running out of room.
Cool, but we already had generic lot types. Nothing was stopping you from making a rec centre before the pack, it doesn't have any new features or items to interact with. At least the new lots on eco lifestyle (although useless) were novel in their implementation. I'd say they missed the mark as well, but they tried to do something interesting at least.
Yeah, i wish it was basegame because I super don't want growing together. I'm eventually going to get a mod that lets me bring more ages of people to the gym to make up for it.
When are they gonna fix the bug where festivals, seasonal vendors overlap? And trash, coffee cups on the ground are no longer clickable. The game is now filled with bikes, trash, vendor stalls that you can't delete. There are several error reports on this issue on EA's bug report site, lol, watch them never fix this bug
Still waiting for them to fix secret societies from university so that you can actually join without cheats, and for them to fix eco fuel cells from ecolifestyle that would make off grid actually playable as a lot trait. Still waiting for highschool to be playable without tanking your sims grade because the game play is fundamentally broken. I wouldn't even call that a bug, it's like they never play tested it and just built a totally flawed EP. There's literally no way to play that pack the way that's intended I can't believe people didn't demand their money back. 🦜🦜
The addition of infants makes me hate playing families in the Sims. Like babies were already a pain in the ass and now they're stuck like that for twice as long, incredible
Also the only time a milestone has ever had any effect on my gameplay is that Sims just randomly get stressed about fires no matter how much time has passed since. Super annoying!!
So agreed on everything you said. They could've done so much with milestones to make them useful- traits that automatically are added to your sim if they have specific sets of milestones unlocked, dialogue and career options based on your sims past experiences, getting along better with sims who have had similar life experiences, or learning wisdom from sims who have been through traumatic experiences or let's say if they beat a fire they could teach other sims how to do the same if they encounter a fire for the first time.. I could keep going and going. So much wasted potential. And that's the true heart of the Sims 4. I don't see it ever getting better and I think the franchise is going to tank in the next 10-20 years
I hated that instead of making toddlers better they added another buggy life state called infants. I hope they don't do the same to teenagers, I know some people ask for preteens but I don't see the point tbh
@@NanaIsMyNickname At least preteens can take care of themselves and have more interactions. Also it would make the transition from 11 year old to 16/17 year old much smoother. Infants I just find annoying, like just another crying thing that you have to take care of every few seconds or they become sad.
I am glad you brought that up, in Sims 3--the one I started playing in 2010, we could create our own lots. That is draw our lots like we can draw a room today. I really miss those days.
@@TheDawnofVanlifeI used to make sims 2 maps in sim city, but the latest version of sim city is shit too so there's no hope you could have a cross game feature like that these days. You can't even make maps in SimCity 2015. It's probably the game that taught EA they don't have to try.
the dynamic system is so broken. i get asked if i want a strict dynamic every time i try bathe my toddler. thats not strict, it's literally just taking care of them?? and even if you say yes to the constant popups, they barely have any impact on gameplay 😭😭
I am so with you on Growing Together. I wouldn't want to play without it because of the infants features that should have come with infants (go figure) and the treehouse which I do tend to use with families. Otherwise the world is so dull, the kids bikes don't work, the loose tooth thing glitches all the time and makes your sim unable to sleep to name a few. I like the events but they're a disaster everytime I try to do them and so on......
I despise the infants. They are toddlers part two. My infant was hungry. I tried to feed him, but every adult sim in the household simply took turns lifting the infant and putting it back onto the floor. Infant’s getting hungrier. Mom picks up the infant a final time before placing him down. It’s time to age up!! Oh, but we can’t age up inside the house for some reason. There isn’t enough room. Instead infant is going to spend an in-game hour or so scooting around the entire house on his knees so he can scoot outside and then around the entire perimeter of the yard to age up. All while getting hungrier. Infant now has enough room to do his stupid flip and ages up into a toddler! A starving toddler! CPS took him before I could even attempt to feed him, though there was a strong chance that the other sims would have simply lifted him up and put him down until he died of starvation. This game can be unbearable. I miss the Sims 3.
compared to sims 2 memories (milestones) feature, where it’s very fleshed out for every premade sim to tell the lore, some sims may have a negative memory or positive memory of the same event based on their personality and gossip about a certain sim will be based on a memory that happened to them. They will also cry or celebrate or congratulate each other based on recent memories. Each memory type has a description in the panel but not an annoying pop up. And the sims 2 chemistry system vs on the sims 4 compatibility system is also nuts. Sims 2 chemistry is calculated on personality, aspiration, turn on and turn offs, etc and genuinely impacts the relationships and their autonomy with them. NOT TO MENTION RELATIONSHIPS ARE TWO SIDES so one sim can hate the other and the other can be in love with the sims. Anyways rant over back to playing a 20 year old game bc it’s better than sims 4
The reason there's no gameplay for elders is that the content was meant to be a refresh of Parenthood (remember when they said they were gonna do those?) before EA realized they could just sell it as a separate pack instead.
Maybe a niche complaint, but my own personal gripe with Sims hairstyles is that they vary far too much. Specifically, let’s say I have a sim with medium length hair and I want them to have similar looking hair across all outfits with some slight variation (i.e. up in a ponytail or tied back in a bun). But my only options are to have drastically different hairlines with middle and side-parts that don’t look good at all. If they had hairstyles that you could alter slightly to fit your preferences, that’d be swell!
I hate it because it forces infants on everyone whether they buy the pack or no, and now babies are incredibly tedious and trying to get around it by aging them up is broken. I have a Child sim who is still going through Infant milestones and quirks and not sure how that's going to play out if they are in high school and still have all this infant stuff happening
even the walking in the park could have been interesting if you made it into a Family walk (holding hands with you toddler) or holding hands with your partner something like that
all this, PLUS how impossible it becomes to manage infants. without the pack they're in between newborns and toddlers, with the pack they're like animals you have to train. i loved infant gameplay when it was building relationships, new experiences like first food, etc. not having to micromanage their every single movement because they haven't figured how to pick things up yet! very painful if you wanted multiple kids at similar age, or wanted to try 100 baby challenge :/
Changing tables are in the basegame code, so it's even stupider that they charged for it. I don't have this pack and I had CC changing tables THAT WORK
I was really hoping this video was going to be about Seasons, it feels like I'm the only one that hates that pack. Like great now I have to go delete random holidays every sims week to avoid sad moodlets and build pavilions over my gardens while disabling rain, snow, and temperature affects in every save file. And on top of that it doesn't even have a world to explore.
I don't hate the pack because I dont have it, but I couldn't be bothered to get it. I just don't care much about weather and the way it restricts what your sims can do sounds like it would be furstrating to me. I like playing with sunny weather every day.
I agree with growing together. It isn't the Generations pack people make it seem like. It basically is all about infants and that's it. Might have called "my first kid pack" lol. Ps your sarcasm is so amazing😂 "watch water"😂
Ok, you can do interactions with the infant on the mat . You can teach the infant how to crawl, stand, grab for toys and self feed. The way an adukt sim responds to the infant effects its personality. Elder sims have life crisis and wonder what they have done with their life .Adults have mid life crisis. I do agree about the celebration lot it is horribly lacking and I tart it uo with a ping pong table etc.
Growing together is the kind of pack that adds flavour to the background which is nice. But the criticism about the empty world, no classes in the rec centre,... Are totally valid. This pack did not reach its fun potential. The changing table should definitely have been base game. You can't have infants without diapers. At least the story book nursery now adds a changing table for 5€. Just don't expect to slot a bin to it and have them still pile on the floor.
I really hate this pack, and wish it was a game pack instead that focused on the babies. The burn out is a constant nightmare and annoys the heck out of me. Luckily if you have the pack tiny living, you can make it drop quickly with stargazing/cloud gazing. It’s still a nightmare since you can’t turn it off and sending your sims to work hard almost always results in getting that danged dazed effect. It’s massively overrated.
I am not a family game player really. I don't know how anyone could be! Having a newborn and infant is so buggy and so frustrating that I can't bother to have them at those ages for more than a couple in game days. By the time I get to toddlers, I am just pissed, so I age them up again so they can do everything for themselves! It just really makes family game plan horrible to me. I agree that this pack is just pretty much useless. That celebration center is tragic!
hey satch, love your vids but the single plaits hairstyle is not a feminine style. It’s a cultural hairstyle and is actually predominantly worn by black men. Some guys also do wear their hair down like that too, even if it is less common. Theres nothing “woke” about that, it’s just factual. Hope that helps!
The family dynamic popup I get the most : having it set to strict because the FIRST interaction after the infant growing into a toddler was to take care of any of their needs except fun or social Bathing your toddler, such a rigorous and strict education style...
The toxic community attacking dissenting viewpoints is what happens when people have so little personality they need to make external things part of their identity in order to have one. When those external things come under attack, criticism, or scrutiny, these people feel as though their own personal identity has come under attack, criticism or scrutiny and lash out defensively. This is why individuals like yourself who are dripping with personality don't have the same kind of reactions when things you like are challenged; Your sense of self and personal identity come from within rather than from external sources. **Edit to see if RUclips deleted this
I remember buying this pack and shortly after just question why because I felt exactly the same as everything you listed here in this video. I don't understand the design process that goes into these packs because it feels like they want to do something great and then it just falls short. Why are they spending so much time designing the worlds if there is nothing to do in them except walk? That random piano just standing in an empty square really sums up how much of a failure this game has become.
I'm glad you made this video. I hate how I always come back to this game and all it has it's new animations, new "skins". the game is empty, every pack is doing the same thing the same gameplay implemetations. "hey why don't you do this base game thing that is boring but now with this pack you have a stupid animation and a checklist for you to complete". i really hate the sims 4's checklists makes you feel like you're playing an infinite tutorial because none of these "checklists" has anything really new to do, you prob already did it and it's just anoying. they really could've done much better if they just copied the sims 3 and just released the same packs with the same features as the sims 3 packs. the only thing the sims 4 has is Build mode and CAS, because all have is the looks and animations. the game is empty.
Literally everything i was saying earlier! I built a home in this workd right next door to the Michaelsons. I looked around the world and noticed that 90% of the houses in the neighborhood are purely decorative. Why couldn't they just make at least some of them be actual homes?! You can already have 20 sims max withing your play space but wait! We get smacked with a loading screen just to go back home if you went to far from the lot! I'm starting to remember why I took a 2 year hiatus back to Sims 3 just for cars, open world and BABY STROLLERS!
i hate the sims reddit community, i made a post about you being my top gaming youtube for the year and i asked about their thoughts on you…i’m just baffled by how many people are in denial about how bad the sims are and they act like people can’t have an opinion🙄
As someone who’s worked at community centers in the past, I think the community center lot type COULD have been neat IF they’d done what they had been implying and had regular activities, like an after-school homework program where kids and teens show up on the lot and do their homework, or a physical fitness night where sims show up and work out, or, like you said, a painting class that happens every week where you have sims show up and paint. Even if it was a rental venue where you could host parties and disallow random sims coming in and crashing your party would be something… communal
The Arboretum (pronounced ar-brr-eat-um) is the name of the lot, essentially it is a public garden usually dedicated to trees rather than flowers. The building is a solarium/conservatory.
Personally I love the water park. I wish we could have had that all the way back in Sims 2 (luckily someone actually converted the TS4 ones, so I have them in my game now). Brings back memories of when my family would go to a public pool when I was a kid (of course the fountains there were actually IN the pool, but zero entry pools aren't a thing in the Sims universe, so I'll take what I can get). Also, I think the term you may have been looking for that building is "conservatory" (which are often but not always part of an aboretum). They're often used to grow and protect rare plants and/or as protected space for butterflies to feast and multiply.
I appreciate your honest reviews - its frustrating, patronising and insulting to my intelligence when people do overly gushing ones, and gloss over the bad points. It easy to get suckered into buying a sims pack because of one or two things about it - like the baby carriers from growing together for example - cool, but not £17.50 from the store worth of cool. Sims packs are pretty expensive for what they are, even from places like CD keys or G2A - there's a lot of other games I could buy for that money. So I always think very carefully before getting a new pack.
I swear in previous Sims you could place empty lots where ever you wanted? And you could decorate the world around the lots too? Am I going mad? And don't get me started on the lack of gameplay items for infants!!
The milestone feature was litterally false advertising. They said they would be like sims 2 memories, but it's really just an achievement system. The worst part is infants are the only ones that have a substantial amount of milestones. Children only 5 exclusive to their age group. Also idk if they fixed the glitch where milestones always disappear
I forgot about heirlooms but they just resold us that with wills in life and death didn't they ? They do love selling us the same old features multiple times under different names.
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Charging for weather and laundry in a life simulation is just devious.
piracy
I am honestly so happy laundry isn’t base game (therefore optional), as I haven’t bought it and don’t want it. 😂 they can keep bust the dust as well
When I first heard about the laundry pack I thought it was an April Fool's joke. Who wants that?
@@TheDawnofVanlife that’s not the point. it’s better to be base game and toggled than to not.
@@labrxx people voted for it.
"Seasons is the most popular Sims 4 Pack" sounds awfully a lot like "Wheels are the most popular extra with car sales"
I don't even want seasons, because it seems after how many years they still haven't fixed the AI so sims don't freeze to death in pools? I guess they decided it was a feature.
And It seems like they made gardening too complicated tok with seasons so, I'll make my first expansion pack be the one with the 27-lot Windenberg if I get anything.
@@steggopotamus Honestly the pool thing makes sense to me. I mean, who uses an outdoor pool in the winter anyway (heck, where I live most people don't even keep water in their pools during the winter)?
Or they could have at least add a trait or a reward trait for cold immu- wait a minute. Theres an immune to cold trait, isnt there? Does that not work for swimming in cold pools?
@@steggopotamus well they added an achievement and a holiday event for these polar swims, so maybe... You just have to be careful and not leave them in too long. Maybe it's to balance the fact they can't drown from removing the ladder any more?
@@steggopotamus yeah seasons + gardening made the recent Reaper challenge near impossible to get done in a sensible time frame
Small detail. But I wish they could have allowed us to choose how our Sims handle their idle phones.
Not even approaching the topic of how unimmersive it is for outdoorsy/off-the-grid Sims to be constantly whipping out smartphones. But being someone who isn't addicted and glued to my phone 24/7 I would like to have characters that I can relate to more, especially the more tech-resistant characters as their entire personalities are completely invalidated by this obsessive interaction they do every five literal seconds.
It's almost a parody animation, as if Sims team was trying to do a "Young people are ALWAYS literally ALWAYS on their phones, so let's set this idle to a 50/50 chance to happen every 30 in-game seconds" kind of thing.
Furthermore. They aren't even doing anything on their phones when they use them. It's literally just an idle animation designed to get in the way of other animations, or stack on top of other idle animations and bog up the A"I". There is no actual reason for Sims to be checking their phones in the first place
Something they should have started a long time ago is hobbies that result in idle animations. Having some yo-yo skill and a yo-yo in your inventory would mean your sim whips that out instead of a phone when idling.
Sims could have fidget spinners, fix their makeup, dig through their pockets or any number of idle animations based on what's in their inventory and what skills and interests they have.
Of course these kinds of features would get culled very early in the design process because they don't translate into immediate profit like half baked game packs about toddlers or babies do.
@@SineN0mine3 such a great idea!! I'd love it if the sims 4 would bring back aspects of the sims 2 hobbies packs, or just the ability to subscribe and read the newspaper... super simple but just the quality of little snippets make the game so cute! I'mma go play Sims 2
@@SineN0mine3 You should suggest this to the paralives team
@@SineN0mine3 They actually had those in Sims 2. Sims with a high level of enthusiasm in games- or science, can't remember which- a will often pull out a Rubik's cube while idle, fitness Sims will jog in place a bit, art Sims will make make frames with their hands and look through them as though scoping out the art in the room, etc.
Even aspirations had a bit of this, with the thought bubbles Sims get when idle. A family Sim will often think about babies or family members, fortune Sims ponder on matters of money, Romance Sims... Well you can probably guess what they tend to think about! 😉
The fact that half the map screen is the sea says it all loll
Lol
And it's not even functional 😭 No swimming or fishing.
@@cosmicagent actually you can swim in the ocean
@@t_sizzler_2032You can swim in the ocean, yes, but can you do it in that world?
Imo the celebration center should’ve been replaced with a daycare lot. This could be a place where your sims could go to work and take care of infants, toddlers, and maybe children. I loved the daycare career from Sims 3, and it would’ve been so cool to bring it back in sims 4. I know there’s a daycare career mod but I play on console ☹️
I've always found it strange how children don't need a nanny, like they're losing their first tooth and going to school for the first time but they can stay home alone without an adult for hours?
That would make too much sense so of course they wouldn't do that
@@seadragonpirate8195 I’ve always found that strange as well
@@seadragonpirate8195 it feels like a gen x thing that made it into the game. But I like the your point, it would be a good reason to inroduce tweens in that they don't need a nanny.
Also, kids should be able to try doing a thing and it goes completely horribly but they're proud anyway. "Used dad's wood working table" and it destroys the table somehow.
@@seadragonpirate8195 Oh, is that so? Imagine, all these years I was always careful to hire a nanny, so I never noticed!
"if you click on this sign next to it, it comes with a really innovative feature called walking."
nearly choked on my drink laughing too hard at that. love our british sarcasm and i love this video, great job satch!
The funniest part is that this 'feature' isn't even an original feature of this pack, they already did this in Snowy Escape
The walking 😭😭 killing my vampires while they are just trying to go to university. Can't have a vampire lawyer without the cheats.
@@fruity4820also... They kind of did better before, since at least there are some events happening in Mt. Komorebi trails...
@@ARoseRisen That is actually so funny
recently on twitter i saw someone ask sth like “are you a cas girlie or a buildmode girlie“ meaning whats your favorite thing to do in sims 4. PLAYING THE GAME not even being an option is so💀 do they know theres videogames you pay money for you can actually play and not just pretend to play after creating your character
The first time I came across a certqin style of lp I thought I had been missing out on all kinds of interactions, come to learn theybwere pretending but like hardcore. I get having a character and a it of a storyline but full on playing like I'm playing barbies as a child no. It.still weirds me out those 1s. And the amount of what do if your bored type vids with sims 4 is telling lol
I didn't play any non free-to-downloud video games until I was 18 and had my own credit card, My mum never allowed me to insert her card into any device that's connected to the internet bc she was paranoid that it would get stolen. And there weren't that many video games you'd buy physically at that point, so all I had were free mobile games and flash games. I can't be the only gen z who grew up like that, so no wonder we find ts4 so awesome, no pop-up ads for completely other gamed in the middle of gameplay, that's how low our bar is. So yeah, there is a good chance a lot of simmers (especially young ones like me who didn't play the prev games) have no concept of a high quality game you'd pay for that is made for the players and not for the advertisers.
I stopped playing ts4 the second I got an actual good game that I paid for
@@fruity4820 its also interesting to note that the sims 4 was not free at launch, it cost around $80 Australian Dollars. And it was actually a steaming pile. it had no features compared to the sims 3, which I played a lot as a kid. Honestly, it being free now makes some of their shortcomings slightly more acceptable, but its still egregious to me that you have to pay for DLC to have a game worth playing.
To be fair the sims 4 is only playable for 10 mins and open it every couple months or 10 months straight non-stop.
@@fruity4820As a cusper who was lucky enough to play all of the previous sims, I’ve never thought of it from the perspective of kids who grew up in the mobile game era. You’re right - to be given a free game that (in comparison to the other crap they try to pass off as games nowadays) isn’t a disguise to try to sell you something or micro-transact you to death, I can see why the younger generation would ride so hard for TS4. It would be hard to recognize it as what it is when it’s the best you were given for so long.
I only got Growing Together to make infants more bearable. When I had just base game with infants they were horrible to play with and I would just age them up immediately but after I got Growing Together they were more bearable to play with. I wish this was just a base game update cause nobody should have to pay that much money to make their game playable.
I feel the opposite, GT made infants worse for me until I got a mod that doesn’t make every milestone take forever. There wasn’t enough time in the sim day to do enough tummy time to get the kid to crawling and have my Sim work. Especially not on a normal lifespan. Before I knew it, the kid was spawning from infant to toddler and I hadn’t gotten most milestones. Not to mention how many GT infant quirks make them fight going to sleep even when they are exhausted. I don’t care if its “realistic”, its annoying for the hyper speed of a video game where you are trying to get a family’s needs balanced.
Yah, but you bought it, amirite? EA knows what they're doing.
I agree with dawnofVanlife, I'm specifically not buying that pack because I like that BG infants can crawl immediately, I like that I don't have to fiddle around and give them tummy time. I bottlefeed, change, holt for a bit sometimes and ignore for most of the time. Considering how hard it is to do just that (where instead without baby and parent stare at each other endlessly) adding any more difficulty is ridiculous.
@@Bethgael They never said they bought it. It's possible to get the packs without paying for them.
@@TheDawnofVanlifeI think it's kind of funny that everyone talks about want more realism in this game, and yet when we get it people complain it's too much.
Generations: Parenthood, Toddler Stuff, Highschool Years, Get Together, Life and Death, Laundrey Day, Kids Room Stuff, Lovestruck, My Wedding Stories (over 200$ US for not even a full generations experience)
not to "but actually" you, but laundry is part of Ambitions for TS3. But your point still stands, Generations is incredible. And Ambitions is GTW and Laundry Day and probably some other kits all combined. TS3 supremacy imo.
That’s devious, their money hunger is so ferocious.
@@nini6619thats why i didnt feed into it
You are spot on. Please do High School Years next. I hate that pack! (You may also compare the pack it with the ad they had.) It was released 2.5 years ago and is still so buggy - graduation is a mess, football and cheerleading days are bizarre, high school side hustles are broken. Crushes follow sims into adulthood - keeping a romantic relationship line between young adults and teens.
They could have done so much with that pack - and we got a world with rabbit holes… so very disappointing.
I have that pack, and several times my sims just won’t go to school and I have never figured out how to fix it. Gee, thanks EA
Yea its crazy how many features are advertised in that pack. Ferris Wheel, along with other rides, different afterschool activities, but no, theyre all rabbit holes🥲
@ where is my Rubik’s cube??? The ad had teens playing with one!
I know EA hates to see Satch coming haha and as they should. I'm glad I found this channel because it's like someone is venting out my frustrations for me
I agree. We need folks like Satch to take the piss out of these EA practices. If EA was only given “positive” feedback, imagine how even more lacking this game could be 😂
Watching the water > watching the paint dry
But only because watching paint dry isn't a gameplay feature. 😂
@aBlackSh33p THIS! 🤣
@@aBlackSh33p
Please don't give them any ideas...
At least, there is some movement present when watching the water.
@@aBlackSh33p New game pack : The Art of Being Bored. Watch paint dry, puddles evaporate, clouds, rain fall, snow fall, leaves fall, piles of leaves rot and get stinky, food getting spoiled,...
“This is my favourite area of the world because of how absolutely crap it is” 🤣
I seriously dislike that they are not any fishing spots in San Sequoia by the pier. Would be nice when you walk down on the docks your sim can look at the boats or watch the waves. In Snowy Escape I wish they added cross country skiing and can ski in other worlds. That walking area would be great in the winter where you can ski.
No because seriously. Isn't the world supposed to be fishing themed? Docks, piers boats? Why can't we fish in the lake that takes up half the map ...It's honestly more than insulting.
Also to go on interactive boat tours or fishing trips.
Fr tho I did a rag to riches there and was looking everywhere thinking it was gonna have something. I was gagged when I realized there wasn't a single one.
this is something i've noticed that i never see anyone talk about. in the base game worlds there's a fishing spot every few feet and it feels like it just got... whittled down pack by pack. hell even in magnolia promenade that gtw world no one remembers exists there are several spots. but i bought a newer pack the other day and found literally none in my neighborhood. made a pond on my lot for the first time
@@sarris3712 San Sequoia is my least favorite world from the packs I have. So much missed oportunity there. I despise Hopewell Hills, I never use in my saves.
Don’t forget they added the infant lifestage to basegame but locked 75% of obviously needed bg content behind this growing together pay wall
i hate how they put the female hairstyles on the male frames like WHY CAN’T THE MALES HAVE SOMETHING ORIGINAL
and they do this with kid sims as well they just have the adult hairstyles like… can we please get separate child hairstyles please????
I actually prefer it if the hairstyles match up over different ages because i hate having to go onto CAS and change it when they age up. Sometimes their hair totally changes if you pick one that doesn't have a matching hairstyle in the age their turning.
Honestly I don't think there's enough of female hairstyles either. It seems like most of the ones we have are redundantly similar to ones we already had.
Older sims games had fewer styles overall but more variety imo.
I wish they werent gendered at all it’s so annoying in cas when I want to put a male sim in a “feminine” shirt and it gives them tiddies.
It’s very much so cheap and lazy. 6-8 fucking hairs, 4 males and 2-4 females each pack is a ridiculous waste of money. Not to mention that particular hair was really fucking ugly (seriously, what were they going for? That one Drake image?) and it just makes the sim look like they have a pushed back hairline or clown cut.
I only watch these sims 4 videos because I can get my daily fix of sarcastic humour here and that saves me a fortune in therapy. It's so therapeutic. 😅
Honestly, sometimes it's nice to know you're not the only one lol
The real life rec centers I've been to (USA) have had like, big rock climbing walls. Indoor pools (one for kids/average people and one for athletes). Courts for basketball, volleyball, tennis, indoor track. And a bunch of classrooms for different things that had actual classes with people teaching them. Plus the rooms for events/kids birthday parties. Yeah, they didn't include enough on the lot for it to make sense, problem is both fragmentation of DLC content and a lack of ambition. EA wasnt gonna improve public pools for this DLC, or include activities like basketball they already put in a different pack.
Main thing that separates a rec center from a gym or public pool are all the different courts for different sports, bigass rock climbing wall, and the different classes available.
don't worry! They'll make more DLC about sports, daycare and climbing walls but they'll be in separate DLC! so you have to pay about a 1500$+ to get all of that in your rec center!
@@Elephantian-joy already got the climbing wall in fitness stuff. just gotta give them time to steal the baby center from the cc people that created the mod for it.
The rental lots for vacations piss me off like who tf wants a vacay in most of these worlds? Can’t do anything! I want another island world 😫
Especially since you can just... go there anytime anyway. Vacation lots make sense in place where you can't go otherwise (like the travel destinations in Sims 2 and 3 and even 4), but worlds where you can just... walk in and out in the day, why?
I was excited about milestones because I loved memories in the sims 2. It was a fun way to look back at important events in your sims life and you could learn so much lore about the premade townies by checking theirs.
Sims 4 milestones are super limited being tied to one pack. Every tiny thing an infant does is a milestone but there's so many things older sims can do that don't register as one.
40€ so I can walk around the world and watch water, omg the gameplay!!
we def need shopping malls, medieval pack with medieal town realm, vintage pack, royalty pack, middle age and preteen addition, 2 hairstyle kits 1 for black sims 1 for white sims, pet kit with dog kennel, better pregnancy + infant stuff (strollers+pacifier) + parrots + more hair and eye colors + better genetics (dominant/recessive genes) + better family trees + bridgerton pack + cute dresses (cottagecore + trendy +vintage) + african and arabic world + more drama + more chaos
I've been begging for better genetics for 10 years
I second this
And a Zoo
Or maybe just as free update? the price for all of this would be insane...
Hear me out, we just need a new game.
The only reason I was excited for this pack was the classrooms and the botany experience ... and both of those were lies. I do actually enjoy the added family activities from this pack, but it was sold under the expectation of so much more.
So true about parenthood having better gameplay than growing together! Parenthood actually focuses on parenting and teen and child Sims!
The thing that shits me about growing together milestones is the game not telling you how many there's supposed to be.
I think it's interesting for players like me who play with aging off (to compromise for the fact that everything else is unbalanced and no fun) so it means i don't instantly age up every baby or toddler, but I don't know if I'm missing any milestones before i age them up because there's not list of the incomplete ones.
I don't think I've ever used them after the toddler age anyway. It feels very tacked on.
I’ve had this exact problem and have had to rely on the kindness of strangers and their online guides lol
The piano is diabolical 😂😂😂
It's almost sad 😭😭😭
If you compare it to TS3 Generations it's garbage.
Just comparing it to the sims 2. Changing tables were base game back in the early 2000s and we had good family play possibilities for the time....
I won't give EA anymore of my money. But if they finally made a band or music pack with more instruments and careers, I'd be all over it!!
I was just thinking about this the other day, i would LOVE THIS! I want to have a band or a pop star sim so badly, would blend in nicely with get famous too!
Same! My main game my sims have a music studio so would love something like this lol
I have never played SIms 4 but watch your videos religiously. I swear every single video never fails to shock me at how low effort the sims 4 is, it makes me so sad!! Can never beat the first 3 sims games.
I love when you make videos when you’re in a bad mood, it makes the commentary extra entertaining.
WHY didn’t they make the Arboretum a unique to that world building where you could go and get plant samples to plant? I think it would have added value to the pack and given people a reason to visit that world.
Satch, if EA created too many NPC then Judith Ward or Eliza Pancakes wouldn't show up everywhere. And that would be the GREATEST tradgey since the latest gamebreaking bugs 🤣🤣🤣
Majority of the hairstyles in the pack are for black sims. Maybe that's why they don't appeal to you. But as a black simmer I like the hairs. But I do agree that there should be more.
Yes, there should be a balance.
His comment on the hair being terrible rubbed me the wrong way because what does he mean by terrible? Is it because they’re terribly designed or ??
@@Heavenlyheart0Satch isn’t one to insult black hairstyles out of spite. I think he genuinely thinks there’s not designed that well. He’s complimented other black hair styles from other packs before
Lmao, the hair looks like shit stop making it political
Thanks for the tour of the town. I’ve never bothered to visit it. It’s lackluster and sad! My favorite pack is City Living. 🌃
it would have been SO cool with growing together, when they had a milestone you had the optioon to take a screenshot or small video of it happening and when a sim died you could watch their milestones. how cool would that have been.
WHAT. I love this idea omg 😭 sadness cos we'll never have anything that cool
I've stop buying packs when they release the "Growing Together" DLC.
As a sims player, who has been playing sims since sims 2, I can't accept that baby changing table is not include in the base game, and they dare to not give us in the free update.
I actually think the whole DLC should be in the base game.
Now I go back to play Sims2 and never look back to Sims4.
Such a precious and honest opinion, which is what we need most in this society
i’m not saying i love rabbit holes, but i always wonder why they don’t just add more rabbit holes!! give us a rabbit hole grocery store, a movie theater, random shops. and just add more lots for houses, they can even be empty! there’s just no reason for such a gigantic empty world
Trolls loading because you bashed on lilsimsie's community center build 😂
Where are those trolls? Some of you are so paranoid xd
@@Poptanic key word loading
@@Poptanic Seriously... anyone who's heard about how those creator lots are done can tell that everything he complains about is from either the pack items or EA's build restrictions, not the actual builder. That lot never had a chance.
@@AgentAsteriskiHe was complaining about the gameplay features for the lot type anyway, nothing to do with lilsimsie. She only built the lot that she was asked to build for the game, the Sims team failed to come up with an interesting new lot type or a reason for rec centres to be in the game.
@@AgentAsteriski Indeed. She's even rebuilt it on her channel since, I believe.
i was so pissed all day this made my day better
The fancy greenhouse is called an "arboretum" with the prefix "arbor" meaning "tree" like in Arbor Day!
i actually like the recreation center lot type. i use it as a gym/library, put a coffee bar and chef kitchen in there, bunch of grills--and now i can just go to one place to do shit/skillbuild. its perfect for rags to riches and freeing up lots in the world
although that specific build is ...not it
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Same. The rec center lot type is kinda perfect for a lot of multifunction uses. I have one in Winderburg with a basment rink, food stalls, bowling alley, gym, and movie theater. Great one lot stop for a family day out. It really helps in smaller worlds where having everything be a separate would just lead to running out of room.
Cool, but we already had generic lot types. Nothing was stopping you from making a rec centre before the pack, it doesn't have any new features or items to interact with.
At least the new lots on eco lifestyle (although useless) were novel in their implementation. I'd say they missed the mark as well, but they tried to do something interesting at least.
Yeah, i wish it was basegame because I super don't want growing together. I'm eventually going to get a mod that lets me bring more ages of people to the gym to make up for it.
When are they gonna fix the bug where festivals, seasonal vendors overlap? And trash, coffee cups on the ground are no longer clickable. The game is now filled with bikes, trash, vendor stalls that you can't delete. There are several error reports on this issue on EA's bug report site, lol, watch them never fix this bug
Still waiting for them to fix secret societies from university so that you can actually join without cheats, and for them to fix eco fuel cells from ecolifestyle that would make off grid actually playable as a lot trait.
Still waiting for highschool to be playable without tanking your sims grade because the game play is fundamentally broken. I wouldn't even call that a bug, it's like they never play tested it and just built a totally flawed EP. There's literally no way to play that pack the way that's intended I can't believe people didn't demand their money back. 🦜🦜
The addition of infants makes me hate playing families in the Sims. Like babies were already a pain in the ass and now they're stuck like that for twice as long, incredible
Also the only time a milestone has ever had any effect on my gameplay is that Sims just randomly get stressed about fires no matter how much time has passed since. Super annoying!!
So agreed on everything you said. They could've done so much with milestones to make them useful- traits that automatically are added to your sim if they have specific sets of milestones unlocked, dialogue and career options based on your sims past experiences, getting along better with sims who have had similar life experiences, or learning wisdom from sims who have been through traumatic experiences or let's say if they beat a fire they could teach other sims how to do the same if they encounter a fire for the first time.. I could keep going and going. So much wasted potential. And that's the true heart of the Sims 4. I don't see it ever getting better and I think the franchise is going to tank in the next 10-20 years
I hated that instead of making toddlers better they added another buggy life state called infants. I hope they don't do the same to teenagers, I know some people ask for preteens but I don't see the point tbh
@@NanaIsMyNickname At least preteens can take care of themselves and have more interactions. Also it would make the transition from 11 year old to 16/17 year old much smoother. Infants I just find annoying, like just another crying thing that you have to take care of every few seconds or they become sad.
I am glad you brought that up, in Sims 3--the one I started playing in 2010, we could create our own lots. That is draw our lots like we can draw a room today. I really miss those days.
You could create your own lots in sims 2 as well. And make your own whole maps from scratch bascally, as many as you wanted.
@@TheDawnofVanlifeI used to make sims 2 maps in sim city, but the latest version of sim city is shit too so there's no hope you could have a cross game feature like that these days.
You can't even make maps in SimCity 2015. It's probably the game that taught EA they don't have to try.
the dynamic system is so broken. i get asked if i want a strict dynamic every time i try bathe my toddler. thats not strict, it's literally just taking care of them?? and even if you say yes to the constant popups, they barely have any impact on gameplay 😭😭
The strict is the one dynamic I hate the most because kids and teens get tense around their parents and parents get sad because they are too harsh 😅
FRRRR like why in the world is taking care of my childs need strict?!?!?!? The dynamics add nothing but pain.
I am so with you on Growing Together. I wouldn't want to play without it because of the infants features that should have come with infants (go figure) and the treehouse which I do tend to use with families. Otherwise the world is so dull, the kids bikes don't work, the loose tooth thing glitches all the time and makes your sim unable to sleep to name a few. I like the events but they're a disaster everytime I try to do them and so on......
I despise the infants. They are toddlers part two.
My infant was hungry. I tried to feed him, but every adult sim in the household simply took turns lifting the infant and putting it back onto the floor. Infant’s getting hungrier. Mom picks up the infant a final time before placing him down. It’s time to age up!! Oh, but we can’t age up inside the house for some reason. There isn’t enough room. Instead infant is going to spend an in-game hour or so scooting around the entire house on his knees so he can scoot outside and then around the entire perimeter of the yard to age up. All while getting hungrier. Infant now has enough room to do his stupid flip and ages up into a toddler! A starving toddler! CPS took him before I could even attempt to feed him, though there was a strong chance that the other sims would have simply lifted him up and put him down until he died of starvation.
This game can be unbearable. I miss the Sims 3.
compared to sims 2 memories (milestones) feature, where it’s very fleshed out for every premade sim to tell the lore, some sims may have a negative memory or positive memory of the same event based on their personality and gossip about a certain sim will be based on a memory that happened to them. They will also cry or celebrate or congratulate each other based on recent memories. Each memory type has a description in the panel but not an annoying pop up. And the sims 2 chemistry system vs on the sims 4 compatibility system is also nuts. Sims 2 chemistry is calculated on personality, aspiration, turn on and turn offs, etc and genuinely impacts the relationships and their autonomy with them. NOT TO MENTION RELATIONSHIPS ARE TWO SIDES so one sim can hate the other and the other can be in love with the sims. Anyways rant over back to playing a 20 year old game bc it’s better than sims 4
The reason there's no gameplay for elders is that the content was meant to be a refresh of Parenthood (remember when they said they were gonna do those?) before EA realized they could just sell it as a separate pack instead.
“Walking simulator” 😂😂😂😂😂 dead
Maybe a niche complaint, but my own personal gripe with Sims hairstyles is that they vary far too much.
Specifically, let’s say I have a sim with medium length hair and I want them to have similar looking hair across all outfits with some slight variation (i.e. up in a ponytail or tied back in a bun). But my only options are to have drastically different hairlines with middle and side-parts that don’t look good at all.
If they had hairstyles that you could alter slightly to fit your preferences, that’d be swell!
I hate it because it forces infants on everyone whether they buy the pack or no, and now babies are incredibly tedious and trying to get around it by aging them up is broken. I have a Child sim who is still going through Infant milestones and quirks and not sure how that's going to play out if they are in high school and still have all this infant stuff happening
One of my child sims is constantly getting infant quirk notifications on frequently sneezing and hiccups and I’m so sick of that.
I especially love how you get a pop up about being strict because you had the audacity to bathe your child
"I feel like I'm being gaslit.." LMAO, SATCH!!! 😂😂😂
even the walking in the park could have been interesting if you made it into a Family walk (holding hands with you toddler) or holding hands with your partner something like that
all this, PLUS how impossible it becomes to manage infants. without the pack they're in between newborns and toddlers, with the pack they're like animals you have to train. i loved infant gameplay when it was building relationships, new experiences like first food, etc. not having to micromanage their every single movement because they haven't figured how to pick things up yet! very painful if you wanted multiple kids at similar age, or wanted to try 100 baby challenge :/
Changing tables are in the basegame code, so it's even stupider that they charged for it. I don't have this pack and I had CC changing tables THAT WORK
I just wish I could turn off the weather in the game settings, sometimes I just want it to be nice and sunny.
Weather machine!! Also controlling weather is a mermaid power (on a very short list of Mefolk powers).
Are you able to use mods? If so I really recommend UI cheats. You can easily change the weather with two clicks
@ yeah but I still think anyone should be able to turn the weather on or off in game/pack settings
Those scattered buildings (in every world) shouldve been rabbit holes at the very least to make the worlds somewhat enjoyable.
*”it’s not a perfect match..”* is the EPITOME of Sims 4 build/buy!!! Lol
Ties up EA, and forces them to watch Satch, "Clockwork Orange" style.
Your accent with your blunt harsh honesty always makes me laugh
"watch water."
bruh, did ea really put that option?
It's literally the game dev equivalent of laughing in people's faces for spending $40 for the privilege
I was really hoping this video was going to be about Seasons, it feels like I'm the only one that hates that pack.
Like great now I have to go delete random holidays every sims week to avoid sad moodlets and build pavilions over my gardens while disabling rain, snow, and temperature affects in every save file. And on top of that it doesn't even have a world to explore.
I don't hate the pack because I dont have it, but I couldn't be bothered to get it. I just don't care much about weather and the way it restricts what your sims can do sounds like it would be furstrating to me. I like playing with sunny weather every day.
I had already gotten Parenthood gamepack and when this happened, felt like I wouldn't get much out of it, so I skipped this one.
I agree with growing together. It isn't the Generations pack people make it seem like. It basically is all about infants and that's it. Might have called "my first kid pack" lol.
Ps your sarcasm is so amazing😂 "watch water"😂
I'm just going to say it, I hate Emotions. They should have sticked with the mood meter
Ok, you can do interactions with the infant on the mat . You can teach the infant how to crawl, stand, grab for toys and self feed. The way an adukt sim responds to the infant effects its personality.
Elder sims have life crisis and wonder what they have done with their life .Adults have mid life crisis.
I do agree about the celebration lot it is horribly lacking and I tart it uo with a ping pong table etc.
Growing together is the kind of pack that adds flavour to the background which is nice. But the criticism about the empty world, no classes in the rec centre,... Are totally valid. This pack did not reach its fun potential.
The changing table should definitely have been base game. You can't have infants without diapers. At least the story book nursery now adds a changing table for 5€. Just don't expect to slot a bin to it and have them still pile on the floor.
I really hate this pack, and wish it was a game pack instead that focused on the babies. The burn out is a constant nightmare and annoys the heck out of me. Luckily if you have the pack tiny living, you can make it drop quickly with stargazing/cloud gazing. It’s still a nightmare since you can’t turn it off and sending your sims to work hard almost always results in getting that danged dazed effect. It’s massively overrated.
I am not a family game player really. I don't know how anyone could be! Having a newborn and infant is so buggy and so frustrating that I can't bother to have them at those ages for more than a couple in game days. By the time I get to toddlers, I am just pissed, so I age them up again so they can do everything for themselves! It just really makes family game plan horrible to me. I agree that this pack is just pretty much useless. That celebration center is tragic!
hey satch, love your vids but the single plaits hairstyle is not a feminine style. It’s a cultural hairstyle and is actually predominantly worn by black men. Some guys also do wear their hair down like that too, even if it is less common. Theres nothing “woke” about that, it’s just factual. Hope that helps!
shut up
I totally agree with you. Regret getting this pack! I don’t need constant rain, that’s what real life is for 😂🇬🇧
The family dynamic popup I get the most : having it set to strict because the FIRST interaction after the infant growing into a toddler was to take care of any of their needs except fun or social
Bathing your toddler, such a rigorous and strict education style...
This is why I love you Satch… you highlighted my very thoughts! 🎉😂😂😂😮💨
The toxic community attacking dissenting viewpoints is what happens when people have so little personality they need to make external things part of their identity in order to have one. When those external things come under attack, criticism, or scrutiny, these people feel as though their own personal identity has come under attack, criticism or scrutiny and lash out defensively. This is why individuals like yourself who are dripping with personality don't have the same kind of reactions when things you like are challenged; Your sense of self and personal identity come from within rather than from external sources.
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Omg 😂😂😂 I love your sarcasm. Your videos are the best. 🙋🏼♀️🇨🇦
I HAAAATE how lazy ea is when it comes to family tree crap, the sims 2 was top tier while the sims 4 you're lucky to know someone outside your lot...
I remember buying this pack and shortly after just question why because I felt exactly the same as everything you listed here in this video. I don't understand the design process that goes into these packs because it feels like they want to do something great and then it just falls short. Why are they spending so much time designing the worlds if there is nothing to do in them except walk? That random piano just standing in an empty square really sums up how much of a failure this game has become.
I'm glad you made this video. I hate how I always come back to this game and all it has it's new animations, new "skins". the game is empty, every pack is doing the same thing the same gameplay implemetations. "hey why don't you do this base game thing that is boring but now with this pack you have a stupid animation and a checklist for you to complete". i really hate the sims 4's checklists makes you feel like you're playing an infinite tutorial because none of these "checklists" has anything really new to do, you prob already did it and it's just anoying. they really could've done much better if they just copied the sims 3 and just released the same packs with the same features as the sims 3 packs. the only thing the sims 4 has is Build mode and CAS, because all have is the looks and animations. the game is empty.
Literally everything i was saying earlier! I built a home in this workd right next door to the Michaelsons. I looked around the world and noticed that 90% of the houses in the neighborhood are purely decorative. Why couldn't they just make at least some of them be actual homes?! You can already have 20 sims max withing your play space but wait! We get smacked with a loading screen just to go back home if you went to far from the lot! I'm starting to remember why I took a 2 year hiatus back to Sims 3 just for cars, open world and BABY STROLLERS!
One use for that celebration center, it's basically god mode for a rags to riches challenge
i hate the sims reddit community, i made a post about you being my top gaming youtube for the year and i asked about their thoughts on you…i’m just baffled by how many people are in denial about how bad the sims are and they act like people can’t have an opinion🙄
As someone who’s worked at community centers in the past, I think the community center lot type COULD have been neat IF they’d done what they had been implying and had regular activities, like an after-school homework program where kids and teens show up on the lot and do their homework, or a physical fitness night where sims show up and work out, or, like you said, a painting class that happens every week where you have sims show up and paint. Even if it was a rental venue where you could host parties and disallow random sims coming in and crashing your party would be something… communal
The Arboretum (pronounced ar-brr-eat-um) is the name of the lot, essentially it is a public garden usually dedicated to trees rather than flowers. The building is a solarium/conservatory.
Personally I love the water park. I wish we could have had that all the way back in Sims 2 (luckily someone actually converted the TS4 ones, so I have them in my game now).
Brings back memories of when my family would go to a public pool when I was a kid (of course the fountains there were actually IN the pool, but zero entry pools aren't a thing in the Sims universe, so I'll take what I can get).
Also, I think the term you may have been looking for that building is "conservatory" (which are often but not always part of an aboretum). They're often used to grow and protect rare plants and/or as protected space for butterflies to feast and multiply.
I appreciate your honest reviews - its frustrating, patronising and insulting to my intelligence when people do overly gushing ones, and gloss over the bad points. It easy to get suckered into buying a sims pack because of one or two things about it - like the baby carriers from growing together for example - cool, but not £17.50 from the store worth of cool. Sims packs are pretty expensive for what they are, even from places like CD keys or G2A - there's a lot of other games I could buy for that money. So I always think very carefully before getting a new pack.
Satch should make the next sims game I would have 100% faith in him
So in this video we have SatchABeech
This is incredibly true😭😭 Especially after watching your island paradise video
I swear in previous Sims you could place empty lots where ever you wanted? And you could decorate the world around the lots too? Am I going mad? And don't get me started on the lack of gameplay items for infants!!
I love you in this mood, I laughed so hard multiple times, I nearly peed myself. Good to have a changing table for diapers in Sims 4 !
The milestone feature was litterally false advertising. They said they would be like sims 2 memories, but it's really just an achievement system. The worst part is infants are the only ones that have a substantial amount of milestones. Children only 5 exclusive to their age group. Also idk if they fixed the glitch where milestones always disappear
I love when you wake up like this ❤🎉😂
I forgot about heirlooms but they just resold us that with wills in life and death didn't they ? They do love selling us the same old features multiple times under different names.
I need more videos like this one 😂❤
I love your honest reviews 🤣🤣 I like growing together but I also agree with almost everything you said.
I had no idea this was everyone's favorite. Seasons for sure is the favorite, and it's my favorite too.
I fixed the recreation center in my game...upgraded every room...plus the playground and added a spa and a pool