Akita vs Great Dane ● A Dog Fight Story
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2024
- At Legacy Park in Cottleville. I promised in an earlier video I'd share some Kinjo stories. This one is my least favorite, as it was a bad situation all around.
Yes, the title is a little provocative, but RUclips draws more eyes with a provocative title.
Telling this story is not a brag, it's nothing to be proud of, and in fact it was unsettling. It's the first time I saw what could happen when a 115 lbs Akita unloads with ill intent.
Not only that, but it is a story of many failures I made that day. Luckily, it didn't end up as bad as it could have and we all went our separate ways.
This occurred earlier in Kinjo's life, and I was still learning the ropes: Learning his triggers, learning proper leadership, learning better control. This was a lesson I won't forget.
Kinjo is much better now too, and is under far more control. Lots of work has gone into this dog.
They were bred to hunt bears. A great dane was nothing.
great Dane hunt large game also, but European style. Akitas will go into a bear den.
I can agree with you ON THIS!! this BREED IS SUPER FAST WHEN ATTACKING… but they have to be pushed to their limits ..
Akitas a not a very vocal breed - often times, what you witnessed (an Akita putting another dog down) will come out of absolutely nowhere. They’re often silent warriors. If an Akita *does* gesture with sound (especially a growl), that’s as serious as it gets and the warning needs to be heeded. It’s all good - just a rookie mistake by someone newer and less experienced with the breed. It happens to all of us at some point. The Great Dane owner thinking it’ll be OK because his dog is bigger made me snicker, lol.
I AGREE 💯
When you really get to know the specific dog you can tell when it's in a funky mood. It often happens quick but not without it's tells. People who don't know the dog or other dogs that aren't well socialized will not see when the Akita doesn't like what's going on. Mine has a grumpy growl that she does when a puppy or friend are annoying her and she wants to be left alone. I call that her huffing and puffing. She also has a "fuck around and find out" growl, that generally leads to me extricating us from the situation causing her to act that way, if I can't get her to calm down through commands.
@@nunuabiznus yes, absolutely! Each dog has their own little idiosyncrasies for sure. I was merely generalizing, but you’re very much right about the personal and individual element.
Our Akita, Mr. Kikuchison, had his moments. He was silent and if he growled and ears forward pay attention. He liked to hide under trees and in the dark, he was a brindle with white chest and socks.
He was one of our family and we part of his pack. The best Samuri Warrior Guard Dog Ever!
Can't believe the dude thought his Great Dane's size would be a deterrent for an American Akita. My dad was in a public field and a Bull started running towards the path. Our Akita ran towards it and again when straight for the bulls neck. Luckily, the bull wasn't injured and just ran off.
I suppose that was a lesson he learned that day. I had my own lessons, but that was certainly his.
Your dog seems to be pretty chill, actually. But there is a button in the Akita that will set them off every time. That dane was not just in your dogs space. But the dane was also in YOUR space. He will defend you every time without hesitation. And before your dog has finished the gr in his growl, he will be in the other dog. If your Akita is going to go off, it happens fast. I've never had a dog I admired and loved more than my Akita. They are just different. Enjoy.
I like Kinjo😃 This is all typical for an Akita. Exellent breed, but difficult character
You have trained your Akita very well. When they are younger you can take them to dog parks and let them run free between other dogs. But when they mature it is not a good idea any more to take them to dog parks or let them play with dogs they don't already know. I know some social Akitas,too, but the most don't tolerate bigger dogs with the same sex or sometimes both sex though they have had a good socialisation when they were younger.
Thank you for the comment!
Yes, it was so much easier when they were pups. As they aged their dominance began to show itself.
My male - in this video - started challenging the female in our house when he was 5 months old. She was over a year old at the time.
They always ate next to each other just fine, but then one day at around 5 months he started growling at her and then went after her.
At that moment I realized I had to work on resource guarding, and I got some great advice from Dogmata. They have a good RUclips Channel. I followed the advice and learned a lot about resource guarding and claiming the food myself. Now, they've been great around food for years.
The same thing happened at dog parks. It was good when they were younger but as they got older it suddenly became a problem when they ran into a particular energy from certain dogs. I could still manage it, but it made other people uncomfortable so I gave that up.
I miss it some, but they never really played when we went. They just walked around like they owned the place.
The the first time of two my Akita had a similar situation she was about 18mo, I had to pry her mouth open with her body locked between my legs. I couldn't pry it upen until I started choking her a little bit. It was scary as shit. I got her Spade and it only happened again when an off leash dog ran up to us on some trails and bitt her on the face while the owner ignored her dog and was yelling at me to go the other way. This time she stopped with verbal commands and a tug of the leash but I didn't do that until the lady got there to deal with her dog once it was free. I should have positioned myself between them and protected her(edit:her being my Akita). That situation caused her to be more reactive when we go on trails and I'm still working on getting her more comfortable when she sees other dogs in the woods.
I'm sorry to hear about that situation. With an Akita, you absolutely can learn their limits the hard way.
The one thing I wanted to add is that dogs live more in the moment than in the past. Humans often live more in the past than in the moment.
What I mean by that is that dogs can easily get over a past situation when they form a new memory in a similar situation. It isn't hard for dogs to forget a past bad encounter when a newer good encounter happens. The issue usually comes from us humans. WE hang onto that past encounter and project that fear or concern onto the dog, and the dog then adopts our energy.
This is often done through the leash, by becoming tense. It is also done through changes to our body language when another dog approaches like before. It also can be communicated through our scent, as our body responds to our fear or concern.
What I am saying is that MOST of the time the creature that is keeping past experiences in the present is US. Our dogs often act as a reflection of our state of mind, so if WE can't change then the dog won't either.
I'm willing to wager that if a new person, a calm and confident person, walks the dog on a trail she'll be more likely to remain calm than she would be with someone - even her master - if that person is reliving that prior encounter in their mind while they walk her.
It's one of the hardest things people struggle with when their dog had a prior traumatic incident.
The best thing would be to walk as if you're on a mission, act as if you're a model on a catwalk and have a job to do, and have the dog follow you. No response to an approaching dog, no tension on the leash, no increased blood pressure. Nothing. If the dog starts to respond, snap the leash quickly followed by a single verbal rebuke and return to loose leash. If that doesn't work, command a sit. They must remain in sit until the dog passes or they receive another single rebuke and snap of the leash before immediately returning to relaxation. Always remain relaxed and calm.
This is - as far as I can tell - the most effective way to improve these situations.
I have similar situations with my huskies.
Between your husky dogs and the Great Dane?
Kinjo has met several Great Danes and he has felt it necessary to growl at every single one.
I have been told that dogs don't see size, but I'm skeptical of that. My dogs clearly react differently to deer than they do horses. I think the size of the Great Dane must play some role in Kinjo's "threat perception". It is also true that he is FAR more tolerant of small dogs than he is large dogs.
He does hate my neighbor's small dog though, but that's a unique case since this little dog is too big for his pants. He is way too assertive and bossy for his size to back up, so it's a concern that I have to watch out for.
What happened with your Husky dogs?
@GetFitwithDogs my 2 female huskies get a little nervous with certain dogs, they mind their own business then when another dog approaches them they give it signals to back off, then they snap then the other owners get upset, huskies play differently than other breeds.
I have an Akita as well that does not play well with other dogs his size or bigger. Only tolerates small dogs. I am trying to get him use to playing with dogs his size. I’ve seen it happen with other Akitas, so it’s a process
It's not an easy process. With some dogs, it may never work.
Kinjo also doesn't like many dogs bigger than him, but seems to tolerate most dogs that are smaller.
Not all, however. Kinjo HATES my neighbor's little 18 lbs dog. That dog is very cocky and claims territory. Kinjo doesn't like it at all, and wants to assert himself over that dog.
However, we also have run into a Great Pyrenees that is his size and he seems to not mind it at all.
It's more their energy than their size, but I do believe their size does play a role.
I totally understand. My girl Akita did that to my male Akita I literally turned around and she attacked him . Ended up taking the male to er vet. Male is 104 lbs and exact opposite of the girl. Never ever growled or fought and always got along with other dogs a real teddy bear.
It would have been interesting to see what caused her to go after him.
Was it a full on attack or was she doing just a harsh correction?
@@GetFitwithDogs no full on attack she’s 2 and male is 9 yrs old there were no food toys bones or anything The only thing I can think off was a “look” he gave her and triggered
Also, I’ve noticed a few comments about Kinjo disliking some dogs but not others. Are the dogs he doesn’t get along with the same sex? Akitas are same-sex aggressive, so that might be at play here. There’s exceptions to every rule, but SSA is breed standard.
Kinjo doesn't seem to be SSA. He has liked and disliked dogs from either sex. Kinjo seems to take issue most with a particular energy from a dog.
We walk passed dogs barking like crazy at him and pulling at their leash, and Kinjo walks by calmly, like "meh." We did that today. A Malinois was going crazy while we passed on a hiking trail and the owner of the Malinois seemed embarrassed by his dog. Meanwhile, Kinjo walked calmly by.
What sets him off is when a dog maintains strong eye contact while standing still and silent. That is when Kinjo objects. It's a challenge he answers, so I have to watch for those dogs.
@@GetFitwithDogs yeah, that’s all very typical Akita behavior. In almost 40 years I’ve never seen an Akita be the loud and obnoxious one. They’re far too confident for that - wild behavior is often indicative of fear, just like in humans. The eye contact factor is typical of primitive animals - good Akita rescues and breeders will tell owners the same thing about eye contact. I engage in extended eye contact just to mess with my two (boy and a girl), but it just leads to play fighting/tussling. Kinjo might still very well be SSA, because even if he is bothered by male dogs, he might not necessarily be seeking the trouble out. Akitas are more finishers than they are starters.
Dont be sorry bud. AKITAS ARENT MADE TO BE WITH OTHER DOGS. Especially not same sex. The only thing you can do is get him a mate so hes not alone
Typical Akita when you told him to go on his side he did it stubbornly then didn’t want to get up when you told him to 😂
No joke male Akitas , myn doesn’t really tolerate many jobs but gets on with a few he sees everyday
They are silent hunters and very hard to read if they are going to turn or not
That’s why generally they are always kept on leads, I’ve no exceptions bit mainly females a lot will be down to genetics and they are natural hunters
Females are more protective of their family. Mine is 135 lbs and 29 inches at the withers. I never her off leash in public. It is very difficult to figure out who she likes or doesn't like. She plays very gently with a little 16lb buddy, and like sumo wrestlers with her big buddies.
Akita has no chance agains a full grow great dane , look up all the videos , you will never see great danes loosing to pitbulls or any breed ... their size and bite is way superior ... if that fight would if keep going , that akita was going to get hurt
I don't really care about who thinks what dog breed would win in a fight.
However, having been there and witnessing this confrontation, this conflict was already decided. If I hadn't intervened, serious damage would have been done. I'm just glad I was there to stop it.
I would have to respectfully disagree with that, and bite force is as a lion 500 and hyena 1500psi who wins? Scooby doo vs an Akita
@@GetFitwithDogs I will fight my 3000 dollar Akita against you great dane and we will let them fight until death. Lets see who wins.