ANALOG VS. DIGITAL PROCESSING on Drums - What's better and what's the point ? - MwD06
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Here's an informative lesson to the endless debate of what sounds better: Analog or digital processing ?
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Thank you very much for this tutorial. I really love the sound of your Cadac. So natural, big, punchy and creamy. And all at the same time!!!. Your 1178 give a warm nice sound in low freqs that I like very much.... I don´t know why I always prefer the expensive option :-) . Thanks again for your tutorials, they are jewels
Daniel, You have done an excellent job with these tutorials!! You are an excellent audio engineer and also have the ability to explain things well. Keep up the good work!!
Well matched examples and really helpful as usual
Thanks:-)
Again, exactly what we need to hear: the informed point of view from a professional with golden ears, really interested in give value with his content. A question if its pertinent: ¿have you tried any Acustica plugin? I have a lot and use it a lot and have to say that the also not necessarily have the hardware saturation in all of its splendor, they are very close in terms of depth and behavior...
Yeah - they sampled my Fairman EQ, that was released some months ago. It was interesting to see how long they actually have to work with the real unit - 1.5 days is enough. The result is not bad, indeed they probably are some steps ahead of compared of other companies in emulating..
@@danieldettwiler.official wooot!? I LOVE my indigo, is amazing to know that I´ve been enjoying an EQ that actually is in yours! (4K is my go to for many sources!)
Bro bro i cant live without my erin purple pultec my nebula with tim p lib and the free arctic and fire the pump my mix and master sound sooo reaaal and expensive
Thank you! This is the eternal debate about which is better. Better is good music!))) It's interesting to listen to these drums in the finished mix.
agreed. And it also has to be said, although I do mention that in the video, that if this was only a digital box we always can compensate with more plugins that give a little bit more character.
Very thoughtful comparison...learned a lot and confirmed many of my suspicions..especially the harshness issue which we all struggle with in the box...
Great to hear
Great Video, thanks Daniel!
I could hear the differnce! analog sounds more seperated and airy
Great!
Digital is thinner , flat and no sheen on the top end .. also analog is punchier
analog adds a lot of distorted harmonics, which you need to emulate in the digital world if you want the exact same sound.
In theses examples the gain matching is off.. so ... also the Slate 1176 is not that good, and here its no way near the setting of the analog version.. so for instance the snare spill is cut off in the BD example... which completely alters the sound perception.
Danke dafür.
Have you experimented with oversampling in regards to the highs? For example metaplugin allows this for the waves plugins
I did. But to upsample (and the downsample) is also not ‚free‘. A lot of filters are applied and usually I dont like it.
@@danieldettwiler.official thanks for your input Daniel, love your videos!
Being your subscriber, my only request is , even if you do not upload, use Slate Digital. Their emulations are by far better than Waves, and sound in next with hardware EQ nd Compressor. So good that in blind comps, its very hard to know which is which.
Esp Their FG-116, Black and Blue, FG-N , for the versions of which you used Waves plugins.
I have to disagree.. I don'l like the slate emulations at all. They try to sound closer with a lot of tricks, but the sound that comes out is very steril, cold and really delivers a sound that I just want to press stop right away. But that's the foog thing with all those emulations, they are emulations. Some sound closer but that comes not for free. Some do less (like the waves) but the emotions in the music are not lost. At the end it is the engineers choice what he likes to use. For me, using also analog hardware, the waves (and softube plugins too) give me what I need.
@@danieldettwiler.official I love your videos Daniel and respect your opinions.
Just in the case as you did shootout, can u send me any file , dry, and one processed with you hardware 1176(with A,R positions and undergoing V high Gr).
I will just send you processed one with FG-116. :)
Lots of learning from your channel and I wish you upload more such great contents frequently.
Analog is better in everyway you put it saturation is better seperation is more 3d more rounder bass more deeper
… And more expensive:-) but for a reason:-)
The important things in a nutshell. Thx
thnaks, yes, I tried to make it short and come to a point fast.. What did you think about both versions? And feel free to share that vid..
@@danieldettwiler.official I like the analog version more the low-end sounds rounder and fuller for me. But the difference is not as big as I thought. But in the end, it's the little things that make a good mix.
Another aspect apart from the sound for me is the cost factor for analog infrastructure, especially in jazz. I recently wrote a research paper on the relevance of live and studio recordings in the German-speaking Swiss jazz scene and the musicians weight the cost factor very highly because the recordings are rarely sold.
@@andrefritzsche1138 Yeah, that's another problem, but I always tell the Jazzers that one reason their CD's are not sold is also that they normally just sound worse than CD's done in the 50thies. Let's say a Sax Player plays absolutely great but his CD sounds bad. For the average listeners, that means that bad emotions get to his ear. Nobody listens to music if the emotions are not there. Emotions come from the musicians but are then carried over sound. If the sound is bad on the CD every emotion that was put to it is lost...
I completely agree. i have also spoken to musicians who value sound very much. But these were rather young musicians who actually still earn some money with recordings, Mainly through the use of new media. I hope this positive trend will continue. Courses like the ones you offer at universities are certainly very beneficial for the awareness. Keep it up. 😎🤘
For me, never, until today, the audio sound better after plugin. But after hardware sounds better always. If the plugins are good, I would be the happiest man in this world, and I would be a richman selling all my hardware!!!!.
The reason is, that in the computer, information is stored. Whenever the goal is to alter that information (i.e. time stretch or pitch etc... or also cut frequencies that are there already out), then it works great with the plugin. However, when the goal is, to create something that is not yet there (i.e. energy in some frequencies), then analog is better. Because the computer can not know, how it would be, if it had more energy. In analog, literally, after boosting with an EQ, you indeed have more energy, because you really did amplify those frequencies.
Nice lesson, but you're a sound engineer, balance the levels, hah. Then again, thank for the content