I am actually currently shooting IC 434 with an 8" EdgeHD with 0.7 reducer, effectively putting the focal length at about 1400mm. I am using the ASI294MC Pro. This video is great, and relates actually, most people shoot this target around 400mm. I have actually shot the Trapezium cluster in IR at the 1400mm FL, it's really interesting.
Please share the link to see the outcome photo. Also, what IR camera were you using? I've been wanting to get an IR sensitive camera for quite some time.
Perfectly timed video. I am setting up my 1900MM FL rig again after imaging solely with a TOA130 for the last year or so. I had forgotten how challenging it is. The main issue I have this time of year is warmer days and cooler nights, so I'm chasing focus all the time and with an OAG, that affects guiding as well.
Just ordered myself a new setup consisting of C8 EdgeHD + 0.7 reducer, IMX571C camera, OAG, Wave150i mount and Minix Z100-0dB PC before the tariffs let the prices skyrocket... Clear skies everyone :)
Sounds like a wonderful rig. I hope you let me know how you're making out with the 150i. It's a mount I've had my eye on. In Canada, the tariffs are likely to drive Chinese prices down, so I think I'll order one in spring.
Nice rig, don’t forget to order the hand controller which they sell separately for the 150i. What will you use for a filter setup and guide camera. I could never find any guide stars with the Celestron OAG so I used a separate guide scope.
@@mr.b3054 I have no use for the hand controller. Setup and initial tests will be done via the mobile app and after that I'll be using NINA. For guiding I have either a ZWO offaxis guider or a 60/240mm guidescope. The OAG would definately be better suited for the longer focal length though. For 120seconds exposures the guidescope should still be fine at 1420mm however.
My eq6-r pro has trouble with my c11 at native focal length, and even with the 0.63 reducer. It's fine with hyperstar at 540mm F1.9, but I'm looking for a mount upgrade to shoot at 2800mm. Great video!
Have you tried tuning it? The EQ6 is famously reliable, but quality control has resulted in some that were a bit better than others. QC went up as time went by so newer ones, I have heard, tend to be better than older ones. Tuning often improves these issues. If your turbulence is poor, you will get bad guiding no matter what. On nights of high turbulence here, I have had guiding errors of as much as 4 RMS. Fortunately, that's rare and most good nights also have good turbulence.
@SKYST0RY I went through it completely. No backlash, nothing sticky, PEC trained, phd2 calibration and guiding assistant always look great. It guides reliably at 0.5-0.9" with my c8 on it, but it seems the porky c11 just pushes it a bit too much. 1.2" rms on a good night with the c11, which is sufficient for nebula season with the hyperstar. But galaxy season is coming up, and I'm considering getting a CQ350 or an eq8-r for it!
Hello again! Very informative video. I have this question for you if I may, I have a C8 non EdgeHD, what is your take on the EdgeHd vs plain SCT, do you think it's worth the price difference ? Have you compared the two side-by-side? I have seen one video that did this, and I really tend to think that the EdgeHD is a bit overblown for the real difference it offers in the field, the optical differences seem really small and seem to be easily handled by today's Blurx etc. I understand that you use an SCT (non EdgeHD)... what do you think (not to put down EdgeHD users)?
I have never owned the Edge but the reports I have read from persons on Cloudy Nights that have tried the Edge and non-Edge variants often indicate the Edge isn't worth the price. It's basically the standard model with a corrector built in. There have been further reports (I think by Lamb) that the Edge is inclined to suffer artifacts when the ring defogger is used. The standard model gets this, too, but to much less of a degree. Because of this, I have no plans to buy an Edge.
I am actually currently shooting IC 434 with an 8" EdgeHD with 0.7 reducer, effectively putting the focal length at about 1400mm. I am using the ASI294MC Pro. This video is great, and relates actually, most people shoot this target around 400mm. I have actually shot the Trapezium cluster in IR at the 1400mm FL, it's really interesting.
Please share the link to see the outcome photo. Also, what IR camera were you using? I've been wanting to get an IR sensitive camera for quite some time.
Perfectly timed video. I am setting up my 1900MM FL rig again after imaging solely with a TOA130 for the last year or so. I had forgotten how challenging it is. The main issue I have this time of year is warmer days and cooler nights, so I'm chasing focus all the time and with an OAG, that affects guiding as well.
Just ordered myself a new setup consisting of C8 EdgeHD + 0.7 reducer, IMX571C camera, OAG, Wave150i mount and Minix Z100-0dB PC before the tariffs let the prices skyrocket... Clear skies everyone :)
Sounds like a wonderful rig. I hope you let me know how you're making out with the 150i. It's a mount I've had my eye on. In Canada, the tariffs are likely to drive Chinese prices down, so I think I'll order one in spring.
Nice rig, don’t forget to order the hand controller which they sell separately for the 150i. What will you use for a filter setup and guide camera. I could never find any guide stars with the Celestron OAG so I used a separate guide scope.
@@mr.b3054 I have no use for the hand controller. Setup and initial tests will be done via the mobile app and after that I'll be using NINA. For guiding I have either a ZWO offaxis guider or a 60/240mm guidescope. The OAG would definately be better suited for the longer focal length though. For 120seconds exposures the guidescope should still be fine at 1420mm however.
@@jrs77do you need the hand controller for firmware updates?
My eq6-r pro has trouble with my c11 at native focal length, and even with the 0.63 reducer. It's fine with hyperstar at 540mm F1.9, but I'm looking for a mount upgrade to shoot at 2800mm. Great video!
Have you tried tuning it? The EQ6 is famously reliable, but quality control has resulted in some that were a bit better than others. QC went up as time went by so newer ones, I have heard, tend to be better than older ones. Tuning often improves these issues. If your turbulence is poor, you will get bad guiding no matter what. On nights of high turbulence here, I have had guiding errors of as much as 4 RMS. Fortunately, that's rare and most good nights also have good turbulence.
@SKYST0RY I went through it completely. No backlash, nothing sticky, PEC trained, phd2 calibration and guiding assistant always look great. It guides reliably at 0.5-0.9" with my c8 on it, but it seems the porky c11 just pushes it a bit too much. 1.2" rms on a good night with the c11, which is sufficient for nebula season with the hyperstar. But galaxy season is coming up, and I'm considering getting a CQ350 or an eq8-r for it!
Hello again! Very informative video. I have this question for you if I may, I have a C8 non EdgeHD, what is your take on the EdgeHd vs plain SCT, do you think it's worth the price difference ? Have you compared the two side-by-side? I have seen one video that did this, and I really tend to think that the EdgeHD is a bit overblown for the real difference it offers in the field, the optical differences seem really small and seem to be easily handled by today's Blurx etc. I understand that you use an SCT (non EdgeHD)... what do you think (not to put down EdgeHD users)?
I have never owned the Edge but the reports I have read from persons on Cloudy Nights that have tried the Edge and non-Edge variants often indicate the Edge isn't worth the price. It's basically the standard model with a corrector built in. There have been further reports (I think by Lamb) that the Edge is inclined to suffer artifacts when the ring defogger is used. The standard model gets this, too, but to much less of a degree. Because of this, I have no plans to buy an Edge.
Ai vids are an absolute NO for me as well as vids with just music. No thanks!