Bombshell New Details in Delphi Murders Case
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Unsealed court documents reveal that Richard Allen confessed to his wife "several times" to killing Libby German and Abby Williams during a prison phone call.
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I don't believe the murders happened there because if the girls were stabbed you would have screamed an someone would have heard it still to many holes in this stories an that bullet could have been planted there if I was on the jury I couldn't convict him my 8 year old granddaughter was murdered an I learned alot from that when the police are under pressure strange things can happen
🚩THERE IS ONE HUGE DISCREPANCY REVEALED IN THESE DOCUMENTS WE NEED EXPLAINED! 🚩 The cycled round was allegedly FOUND between their bodies. BUT- these documents state the location of where the round was cycled is up on the BRIDGE, and is heard in full video. So WHY does evidence #1 have conflicting details? I believe Richard Allen is guilty so I want to see a successful prosecution. I’m still worried about the Reno 911 level investigation of the case as a whole, creating holes in the case that the defense can use as means to pick it apart.
[ “..investigators believe they hear the sound of a gun being cycled and one of the victims mentioning a "gun”. Investigators believe after that time Victim 1 and Victim 2 were removed from the bridge by Richard to where their murders occurred.” ]
@@JimRex-vv4qs I like your style.
@@JimRex-vv4qs do you want him to have a trial?
@@kennethcurtis1856 would say no.
Source a
Firing squad 😕
Let justice prevail !!!
Save our children!!!
No one can possibly be treating him as bad as he did the girls.
Amen to this!!!!
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Oh I can guarantee you if he's in an Indiana prison he's getting his azz beat everyday unless the punk is in protective custody... His life is over & if he did this to them 2 girls, I'm fine with it
Whatever treatment he might be getting he’s certainly earned!
@@Tiger-From-Clemson Yeah, he's for sure been in Protective Custody since the day of his arrest.. That's one of the reasons his defense is saying he's losing his mind.. He should be thankful he's not around other inmates!! According to those court documents his life is being threatened daily. 🤘
I was an officer at a super max prison for a couple of years. The lifers that are in and out of prison all the time, are well accustomed to prison life, in fact most people like that flourish in prison. But when you put someone behind bars, especially at his age, that has never experienced anything but complete freedom, it can completely break them, mentally and physically. I've seen it. It's very common for someone like him to commit suicide in prison within the first year or two, especially given his charges, he's living with the knowledge that most inmates would kill him if they had the chance.
It sounds like natural justice prior to actual conviction.
@@dawnb3194bring back hanging
Moral of that story is, if you can't do the time don't do the crime.
True or not I don't have any sympathy for him. I hope he IS broken!
He's vile & evil
Please tell me why Chris Watts doesn't attempt suicide? What does he have to live for??
It makes me so sad thinking about those little girls and how scared they must have been. Probably went out to have a good time that day and thought they were safe because they were together. I remember doing things like this with my best friend when I was a teen and we never thought about what could have happened. May they get the justice they deserve.
It is said that they were going to meet that model boy in the picture and got cat fished, raped snd murdered.
@@mythoughts6922 I too think this is what happened.
@@Balonious_Crunk Yes, and they kept it a secret unfortunately from their parents. And especially the dad that dropped them off
@@mythoughts6922its so sad. My best friend and i did things together and ride bikes. No way now. These poor girls and their families. Sending luv from Australia 🇦🇺❤
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I feel no ounce of pity for him. He is reaping a tiny bit of what he has sowed. Any wife that can stand by a husband who slaughtered two young innocent girls, is not a very good person, herself.
No, but she’s a top notch wife😊
@@kman7680yeah until someone takes revenge on her . Dumb ass comment !
Exactly… And I just don’t believe Rick the Dicks wife didn’t know that was him in the video…. His clothes, his walk, and his jacket was a part of his wardrobe…Even that scraggly ugly beard that Libby recorded in her Snapchat video Stevie Wonder could see that was him. I’m still pissed that it took law enforcement that long to realize it was him…..
in think she knew all along and hid it.
They haven't looked at each other In court since the convo. She may not have asked for divorce yet for some reason we aren't aware of. Can we stop focusing on people other than the actual one who did the killing? He is the one in focus.
Wow who would’ve thought that killing children might end you up in a situation where you aren’t being treated the best by the people around you that’s so crazy
I agree... 9:30
lawyers he should have been sent to club med instead of going to a holding jail like any other citizen would have to be if they were arrested for the same thing is apparently a violation of his rights....Who knew,???
That you might end up. You got a lil tongue tied 😏
@@carwalk1280 Nope, the original comment is correctly written. Your suggestion would make it grammatically incorrect.
@@Autumn_Forest_no I don’t think the original is correct. And that other person probably meant “Wow, who would’ve thought that by killing children, you might end up in a situation where you aren’t being treated the best by the people around you. That’s so crazy.” To me it sounds better that way or she could’ve said “wow, who would’ve thought that Killing children might put you in a situation where you aren't being treated the best by the people around you. That’s so crazy”
@@arim.3304 I don’t think either way is incorrect, for what that’s worth lol.
I lived 5 miles from Delphi for 35 years and have always wondered what kind of a man could do this ?? To think it was someone with a wife and daughter is shocking but so glad he's in custody. Everyone from Lafayette to Monticello and beyond are breathing a sigh of relief. My heart goes out to Libby and Abby's family and friends ❤
G'day,
I live in Australia and this case really has a hold on me as well...
I don't know what it is?
Maybe it's the similarity of the bush walking tracks/terrain of Idaho and Oz.
Or maybe it's the fact that teens going camping/walking in the bush is such an Aussie tradition that I can kinda imagine something horrible like this happening in my sleepy town..
I can't quite put my finger on it but this case really sicks out to me...
@@matthewclaridge8063@matthewclaridge8063 it's on my bucket list to make it to Australia one day. Been a dream of mine since I was a child. Just wanted to clarify, these murders happened in Indiana, not Idaho. But, if you ever get the chance to come visit the states, let Idaho be on the list to see before Indiana. I've been to both and the beauty of Idaho took my breath away!
I not breathing well enough also who else knows if there was for sure nobody else was Involved. 😢
@@TheresaLee-yr1sr He was the one caught on tape. Plus I don't believe he would have someone else there to be a witness to his crime and not open his mouth in a bar blabbing about the killings on the bridge. Justy thoughts
What is everyone going to say or do if he beats this by taking the "mental" game? He is not smart.
It's disgusting that he's complaining about being in jail after committing such an evil act.
Right?
These types boggle the mind!!!
"Complain about the Piano Wire vs. Rope around yer neck, swingin' in the breeze under that bridge."
innocent till proven guilty.
Allegedly
Pls it's the age of being a sociopath then playing victim.
Those little girls recording him just saved the lives of other kids now that he’s caught ! Lil heroes they are
Have you considered the possibility that those girls may have been recording him while poking fun at him and insulting him?
Why do you think the authorities are refusing to release the entire video? Sure, it may contain the recording of the actual murder, but it may also contain recording of the girls in a less than sympathetic light.
I'm not trying to defend the guy, but he may have been mentally unstable to begin with, and the girls may have done something to get a reaction out of him.
Obviously, I can never know, because I wasn't there, but neither were you, so you shouldn't be so quick to assume the girls recorded the video to try to save themselves and others.
Sure, they are victims of a murder, but that is about as much we can be sure of. They are heroes only in your imagination, and there isn't anything particularly wrong with that, but don't kid yourself that your imaginations make things real.
@@clarice3978 Were you there?
Did you actually witness the crime, and know how it occurred?
Do you know the girls?
Do you know Richard Allen personally?
Again, its your belief against that of others, and what you believe about this case is entirely based on what the media reported and what the authorities released. There is just too much uncertainty to make that kind of conclusion, and it doesn't help to understand the case at all, especially when it hasn't even been tried yet.
What makes you think your belief is superior to that of others that makes it more alike to reality?
No, I'm not claiming that what I wrote is what I think occurred, nor did I ever claimed what I wrote to be more likely. I only mentioned it as one of many possible scenarios to make a point about how there is just too much uncertainty to make a credible conclusion at this point.
If you have a basic level of reading comprehension, you would have understood my point, but I guess you are too arrogant and/or lacking in literacy such that you have to reply with a emotionally driven response.
You are the type that accuse others of racism and hate crime just because you believe others are being hateful when they say something you don't agree with or understand. Instead of trying to find out why and how, you automatically assume your belief to right.
You are only going to make a lot of enemies unnecessarily that way, but hey, if it makes you feel better, then it isn't my problem.
If you unwittingly make an enemy with someone like Richard Allen by talking with your attitude, you might become a target of a crime like this, and that would be tragic.
Don't get me wrong, when I try to understand a criminal case, I do so try to see if it could have been avoided had anything been different.
If you like to believe that crimes like this occur just because some people are just evil for no reason and they just do evil things, you should just get used to it, as there is nothing that can be done to prevent evil people from existing and crime like this will just occur once in a while because evil people exist for no reason and they do evil things and that is just part of life I suppose?
(I know you won't read all this, because you can't, and it doesn't bother me. I'm mainly writing this for other users to read in case they are interested in my response to you reply)
@@thepunisher2988that’s a lot of speculation and imagination. Stick to the facts ma’am
@@mitzimcewan9124 Learn to read properly, because you clearly lack basic level of reading comprehension to understand anything.
We don't even have enough facts make a solid conclusion on exactly how the crime occurred, and THAT is my point you subhuman.
Go talk to you cat, will ya?
@aspenrose8845 Hmm...you seem to be certain about what you are claiming. Tell us more.
Do you have any other insider knowledge on the investigation?
This psychologist is absolutely full of it. He doesn’t feel guilt. He’s in a terrible place because of his horrendous actions.
I WANT TO KNOW IF HE EVER TOOK LIE DETECTOR TEST
All I want to say on this horrible case is thank goodness this monster didn't know that he was recorded on the phone and didn't take it. It was a very brave thing she did and thankfully it was preserved as evidence at the scene.
I'm glad he's that stupid
That part is crazy to me. Like, how stupid can someone be?
@@hpswagcraftmost criminals aren't the brightest of people, thankfully.
@@hpswagcrafthow stupid he had to be to keep clothes and gun for years after video was released? He had numerous opportunities to safely get rid of that.
@@alexandergorbunov6948he didn't get rid of those things so he could relive the crime over and over
He confessed, he has admitted the crime, he's eating again, sleeping, he confessed, it's off his chest.
Exactly!
Yep
Now throw him in the GP and let him find out what it feels like to be really helpless. Death would be too kind for him. Hopefully he suffers as long as humanly possible.
Did they release the audio ? I don't trust anything Police or the DA claim. They've been caught lying in so many cases.
Not sure why no one realises that his wife can't be compelled to testify against him.... The confessions to her are likely to have the protection of of spousal communication and not come in.
I can’t imagine what the relatives went through having to identify the bodies! My daughter & only child died after 2 years of hell, suffering from a brain tumor. Just looking at her body afterwards was just horrible! I was in shock at the time but looking back now is just heartbreaking 💔!
I’m so sorry for your loss 💔There can be nothing worse for a mom than losing your own child.. Sending warm hug to you from Finland.
Sorry for your loss
🫂 Hugs to you Sharon
I lost my sister, and I saw what it did to my Mom and Dad. No parent should ever have to lose their child. You’re so incredibly strong. Those two years must’ve been… unimaginable.💔 But you held in there, and stayed strong for your baby girl.
You’re a wonderful Mother and Woman for all that you did for her. I have zero doubt that she’s up there shining bright, pain-free, happy, and knows that she’ll definitely see you again. You’ll be reunited.
I’m sending you every ounce of my energy, strength, and good vibes today. Love and support is always here. ❤🫂
Makes my heart hurt for you. So sorry for your loss
Your daughter is in good hands now. You are hopefully healing the pain and suffering of losing your daughter and I pray 🙏 for you. I know I could not deal with it and would seek help.
I keep saying, we do not WANT HIM TO DETERIORATE IN PRISON! He is trying to somehow kill himself in prison before facing justice for Abbey and Libby and I'm honestly very worried that he will succeed. I want that bastard to be optimistic and healthy when he faces a jury for what he did, because when he is sentenced, I want him to be in prison suffering for as long as possible. Evil piece of ****.
He doesn't want to answer to what he's done to 2 teen girls, by all accounts a mutilation, I hope he rots in hell.
I agree, we need him healthy and mentally stable so the girls’ families can get justice. I don’t care what happens to him after he’s sentenced, but the victims need their day in court
32:16 that is Jonathan Lee Riches.
He has a YT channel centered around true crime.
I don’t follow the guy but don’t have an issue with him.
Just wanted to give Jonathan Lee Riches a shout out.
I appreciate his words to Allen!!!
no finding him hanging or a metal probe crammed into his neck sounds fine to me
He is worried as hell that's why he's deteriorating 😅 suffer suffer suffer 🎉
The more that gets uncovered in this case the more I feel like law enforcement made a real mess of the investigation. Libby’s ingenuity and courage has eventually solved this case. Prayers for closure for both families
Yes, it's begining to look very much that that is the case. Even in her last moments Libby had more sense, guts and determination than a complete police force.
Respectfully, that's entirely untrue about LE. Yes, Libby was a hero - can't take anything away from that! But so are the police...they know a lot more than any of us did, and the case is much more complex than you know.
@@Oysterwang seriously? That's like an oxymoron but with inbuilt stupidity! Why would you be so stupid?
@@Oysterwang if you know how complex the case is, then why would you think no one else does, not solved, no police leads. You know what, just keep cruising your own unique stupid! Because they ignored or, worse still, lost the most important piece of evidence.
And that's unforgiveable when that girl, Libby, left such great evidence on her phone you make me so mad.
@@annereidy7981 oh. name calling, very classy. Wait until the trial - you will see how much work went into this.
The people who are caught are so manipulative that they present themselves to be frail when they get to trial. Woe is me.
He killed two young girls!! Let him starve and go crazy. He admitted to the crimes. He deserves nothing humane . He’s a demon , let him rot
The issue there is that there seems to be evidence of other people being involved (the guy who catfished the girls before he got arrested for CSAM)
@@innocentnemesis3519no relationship
Richard Allan Wrench, is responsible not only for those deaths that are currently being demonstrated, he is also responsible for having killed Kurt Cobain from the band Nirvana, Kurt Cobain's wife Courtney love, out of jealousy and envy, sent him to kill, Richard Allan Wrench, he accept a payment of $50,000 dollars, for giving Kurt Cobain a shotgun, making the crime scene look like a suicide, Richard Allan Wrench also killed the Duke, since the Duke gave him away in an interview. Sorry if my english is not so good.
and let him rot in hell afterwards
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The older girl solved the murder. Police did not do much. And Libby apparently really fought hard.
Ya the police could’ve solved this years ago if they actually did their jobs. He put himself at the scene and described the same clothing!
Agreed - When this murder trial is done and that evil PoS is locked in the cage he'll die in, the Keystone Cops MUST be held accountable for their disastrous botcheddouble murder investigation!
Richard Allen wasn't 'hiding in plain sight', as that buffoon Supt Doug Carter claimed - He wasn't hiding at all! He lived and worked a stone's throw from the crime scene, and pretty much gave himself up to a marshal the day after the February 2017 murders, confessing he was there the entire time Libby and Abby were - even on the bridge - wearing the same blue jeans and coat as 'Bridge Guy' on the infamous video.
Yet police failed to invite Richard Allen in for interview! That didn't happen until October 2022 - almost five years later, following a re-evaluation of the early investigation.
Richard Allen, a highly dangerous man, has been at liberty all that time, free to kill more females, be they women or children. The police failed to keep the public safe - and failed to deliver justice for two much loved little girls, enjoying a walk at a popular beauty spot, on a fresh Winter's day, as any kid should.
@@joshcantrell8397 Yip - Tobe took the easy way out from the night they were missing. Who calls off a search party for two young girls? Lazy sod couldn't bear to miss a night's sleep.
@@joshcantrell8397 and exacrly what is your experience in solving murders besidides sitting behind a keyboard telling everyone you know more than LE?
@@kennethcurtis1856 with a little crowd, sourcing this case, could’ve been solved by the public very easily if they had the information that the police obviously had from the very beginning..
That cat running up at 6:09 😂😂😂
I’m sorry, but if that was my husband, I would have recognized him immediately. She know what clothes he has. I would have turned him in also, because I don’t think I could sleep every night next to a man that I know murdered two teenage girls.
You’re not considering the part where it doesn’t enter your mind that your dear husband is indeed a monster. Then the clothes would become what they actually are…rags people hang on themselves to vote their bodies. Rags that are produced in mass quantities. It isn’t like he’s the only one wearing that kind of clothing. Never underestimate the element of surprise.
With these guys, no you wouldn’t. He would’ve either washed the clothes or did something with them or could’ve given a reason if she did find them.
You don't know that!! Unless you've been in the same situation you can't say how you will act. So stop
@@Thespiritleads777DENIAL is a tricky thing..How wants to believe their BELOVED spouse would do something so heinous?!!!???
@eremiasranwolf3513 torture? Ok..Maybe don't skip your psych meds
May justice be served for these 2 precious baby girls & their families. ⚖️🩷❤️⚖️
Their a couple of young ladies not babies.
@@cindyrussell1581 they were 13 and 14. That is a baby in the grand scheme they didnt even get to live life yet.
@@2147BNot babies.
I never would have allowed 2 little girls to go up there alone in the first place. That area looks evil. Just saying. 😒
Right?? Knowing that dangerous bridge is there as well- hell NO.
Richard Allen appears to be someone who expected to get away with what he did and is now dealing with being caught, his guilt and his memories.
I've felt the same way, he's dealing with remorse and shame
Explaining the weight loss
Exactly 💯%
He only feels bad that he got caught!
He's a narcissist pos who only cares about himself. Period!
@@clarice3978 how could it not after placing himself at the scene, only to walk for five years?
@@violetmoon1781or fear
I am just so proud of these young girls to think to pull out there phone and record, imagine the terror they went through, and to think “ he will need to be caught” and record him 🥺bless there little hearts, I mean the bravery to do that, knowing he had a gun 😔rest in peace sweet angels
You know it is likely they were spending time on porn sites despite having been warned to not do that. It is possible they were identified and stalked.
I say that everytime I see girls. Thank God they are always pulling out their cellphones.
@kevinhornbuckle porn sites don't facilitate meetings.
@@kevinhornbucklewtf does it matter what 2 curious teens were possibly looking at? They were being catfished on instagram, and being stalked online.
If anything, kids need to learn not to share their location and not share where they're going, on social media. Share where and what you did when the day is done.
@@r.coffman1431 what they looked at does not matter except that that leads to interacting on those websites and then you can be tracked
I guarantee you, from that video and voice recording of Allen, his wife, mother, friends and co-workers definitely could have recognized him immediately. If you’re married for years and years, there’s no mistaking your own spouse’s image and voice.
Fully agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not blaming wife or anything but common man.........My wife would have recognized me with voice, waddle, etc even if I was wearing a full bunny suit.
He has such mean eyes. It is heartbreaking to think the girls were looking into those eyes. I pray their families find peace in knowing the girls are with God and will never experience fear or pain again.
This despicable act affected WAAAAAY more families than just the two.
Families in their home town, and around the globe, were affected.
Simply heart wrenching.
Yes, people are still scared in town....😢
💯💯💯
@@keshiawaldron2744,
I’m so sorry for how this monster has affected you. I can’t even imagine…
Are you even from Delphi keshia? Do you even live in the same state?
"We're only as sick as our secrets." I love when people quote Bill W. There's so much truth in every recovery slogan. As for Richard Allen - his eyes are dead. He's got that thousand-mile stare. He's seeing his demise for the horror he's committed. Also: when you're a child murderer, you are not going to get courteous treatment in prison. Maybe he knew they liked to walk across the bridge when not in school. He'd seen them there before. He brought his knife and gun "just in case." That's premeditated, I believe. Or: somehow he saw them being dropped off by their parents while driving his car, drove around to the other end, and walked to meet them up ahead.
True!! And there is truly nothing in his eyes, nothing at all
Maybe it's the haldol
He's not eating pizza, beer, and cake anymore..... don't feel sorry for him.
He could also be putting on getting ready for a guilty but incompetent plea.
@@eremiasranwolf3513He needs to be tortured.......
@@eremiasranwolf3513karma
He was hiding his monster side from public for years. Now everyone knows who he is. His ego isn’t dealing with that well. Too bad for him.
Exactly
Yes. This must be literally, his worst nightmare. He felt he was Teflon after these years. He enjoyed his life, probably thinking he was a higher bred human lol. Enjoy big boy prison Dickie!
It will be interesting to see how his background develops. Someone who can commit such a heinous act cannot possibly have led a clean life up to that point.
Do you know him personally to say that?? Ppl get accused and framed all the time…Not saying he’s innocent but it doesn’t mean he’s guilty either.
@@Idontcarejones keep up with the class dude, did you even watch the video? He confessed to his wife on the phone *multiple times in one call* that he killed Libby and Abby
Why doesn’t anyone ever mention the fact that the girls went there for the purpose of meeting someone they were communicating with online who they thought was some “hot” dude. I feel the whole story needs to be told to send a message to others, especially teenagers that it is a dangerous thing to do. I feel it is irresponsible not to tell the whole story and it is NOT “victim shaming”, it’s the truth
Who cares if they were? They were teenagers. We all do dumb things as teens and don't pay with our lives.
Meghan is missing. What you wrote reminded me of that movie.
That's exactly what I thought.
@@CharlesRocco-b8oto educate children to not meet strangers....duh
Yeah cause that always works. Educate men not to kill children
If he thinks it's bad in there, wait until he gets to Hell... He deserves to be miserable
Oh please! Fairytales
And I hope a large pineapple is served every day.
Wish that was real. Would make me feel better.
@@Beefer-e4j Me too! Xx
If i found out my husband hurt a child, it would take every ounce of my willpower and the grace of God to call the police rather than end him right there. I am so SICK of perverted men hurting children and preventing anyone from experiencing a carefree childhood.
Many men are perverted like this. It’s their nature.
His wife was I'm some way involved. I don't care what anyone says!
Seems like there are a lot of PERVERTS in a town of 3200 people!! 😡😡
I agree, she had to know something! Seeing the video of him and hearing his voice on the recording that they played at least a thousand times and she stayed silent? She deserves to be punished! If they went after people that aided and abetted criminals I imagine more people would come forward and be proactive rather than sitting on information.
Same
Did he think jail was going to be like a country club???
Did he think he was going to club med? I don’t feel sorry for him. He’s a murderer.
Exactly
Allegedly…
@@squeeze1321...well he admitted he did it. It's recorded for all of us to hear.
@@squeeze1321Admittedly
Have you gotten to see any of the evidence yourself??
It looks bad with RA confessing to his wife.And him having 14 cell phones is very disturbing.
Why did RA have 14 cell phones ?
It is highly likely that his wife knew of his interest in pornography.
Wait,, 14 cell phones,,, What in the world !!!
@carlotaestrada9869 right? I haven't heard about any cell phones...
What? 14 cell phones??? Wtfahhh😮
Thanks!
I can’t believe his wife is still supporting him, even after he confessed to her. She’s been at all his hearings, after the calls 😱
Not necessarily support. She’s been betrayed. Maybe she wants to see Justice happening from the frontlines.
I haven't heard anything about him confessing to her....are you sure that's not heresay?
@@farmerchick3040its in the police report they just showed
@@farmerchick3040 it came out on court documents. Not hearsay
it's disgusting she has a child too to look after. Unless he's going to do a Chris Watts and confess but not confess to keeping his family visiting him like Chris Whatts does with his vile deluded family
So he went with guns, and knives.... so it was premeditated..... this is just unbelievable.
Look at his jacket as he is walking the bridge....its packed full of stuff
Both pre-meditated and opportunistic. These two beautiful girls were just the ones he chose that day. Hope he gets his in prison!
Backing his car into the cps building so no one could see his plates.
Correct. I 100% believe he was connected to Kegan Kline and Kline sold or gave him the info of their location.
@@Ohaelisethat's a major missing piece. How did he know that day would be a day to do that?
Anya & Kevin deserve so much credit for helping to find their murderer. A lot of info that was finally released came through them and the documents they made easily accessible to the public.
How did his wife not know him on the bridge
Wow no one has ever asked this question before. You are so brilliant.
The wives are usually the last to know in cases like this.
Or his voice.
I would like to know more about her, for sure. I cant imagine being in her shoes.
Or his coworkers or daughter. Seems weird no one who knows him thought it might be him...
His only illness is fear of what other inmates will do to him in the big bouse
And they will, even prisoners tend to hate pedophiles.
He's already in "the big house," If he's convicted, depending on the classification they give him,he'll most likely go back to Westville, where he's being housed now.
@@StoneSurvivor hopefully they put him in gen pop with the big boys, he's a wimp
15:15 I would take an inmate that is linked to child molestation charges crying about ill treatment with a grain of salt. Jail is not a place for kid diddlers and kid killers to feel safe. I think kid diddlers and kid killers should be harassed until they end themselves. I have no empathy for them and never will.
He was right under their nose all the time. This is disturbing.
Makes you wonder if there are people on the police force who are covering up a pedo ring.
Definitely!! He lived 5 minutes from the bridge! I wonder if there are any unsolved crimes that he might be responsible for? If so, I hope they can be solved. It seems odd that he would start murdering at his ago. He worked at CVS and gave free pictures to Abby and Libby’s families. He’s an evil creep!! 😡😡
@@bbe3034 not sure if it's being solved but two girls were murdered a few years earlier in a neighbouring state.
@@bushmonster1702 He may have killed them. It’s odd that he would start killing at his age. Have you heard about Kouri Richins? Another Mormon wife in Utah, who murdered her husband Eric with fentanyl. She worked at Home Depot at the checkout when he met her. They had 3 precious boys.
Love libby's grandma saying that libby is leading the investigation. Yeah she is. Those girls are still working together to bring some peace of mind (not heart 😔) to their families.
I appreciate the compassion offered to the girls and their families in the reporting, and not treated as just another case in the news.
You know what's so criminal about this case? Law Enforcement had him on their books the WHOLE time. He was witness who put himself at the scene, dressed in the clothes BG was wearing. In a small town of 3,000 people, with two ridiculous composite sketches, tiny titbits of info given out to the public, random cyptic clues from Doug Carter "I watched The Shack last night" Turns out he was right there working in the local (and only) pharmacy all along. How in hell did it take them 5 1/2 years to arrest him?
RIGHT 😮😢
Idiots!! Incompetence, etc…
YES
Would have loved to see his face when he found out they had a video . Bet he watched it a hundred times.
Yes. I live in Sweden and seen this documentary on ID on tv. He placed himself there. The drawing the police released looks like him. And he limped on the video the girls took. And watching him walking to the stairs and down he limps. This could been solved years ago if the police had their best investigators on it.
Initially I was skeptical that Richard Allan was bridge guy, but after reading the released documents I am mostly sure it's him. He put himself on the location at the time the girls were there and even gave accounts of some witnesses that saw him too. Also, I have never heard of someone giving a false confession to family members and not to the police.
Very true and the craziest thing is that looking at bridge guy video I can clearly make out Allan's face! I think Keagan Kline is way too fat to be bridge guy, but even still its extremely odd that the day his cat fished persona was supposed to meet up with them is the day they were killed. That's just way too much of a coincidence. Also those two pictures that look nothing alike is probably one of the biggest things working for the defense. You just can't help but have reasonable doubt about that and also the fact that he spoke to police in 2017 and literally the police didn't put things together until 6 years later. That's just really bad police work
There is no connection. There are pedos and creepers all over the world in the millions. These girls were on social media talking to strangers and guys much older. This guy just happened to be there and killed them.
He didn't speak to Police, it was reported he spoke to a game conservation officier!!!!!
Sorry I don't know what that is? I guess I just meant that usually false confessions happen under police interrogations, but in this case the defense is basically saying he gave a false confession to his own wife. That makes no sense.
@@101GM8I suspect so too. I suppose we’ll find out in the trial. Maybe he was paying the other guy for access to that account?
Should be automatic death penalty. Killing children should automatically be a death penalty case.
He moved around quite a bit and there are unsolved murders in other cities the law thinks he was involved in those too. I’m relieved this monster has been stopped! My heart breaks for Abby and Libby . R I P girls 🙏
the one crime is just a hop and a skip on the highway to get to. actually 2 crimes they are looking into are within driving distance in just a matter of minutes. from what i'm reading on this case, it isn't his first time committing a crime. they need to dig deep. maybe this is why it is taking them nearly 6 years, they want to hang him for all they can at once. DNA and fingerprints. the one court paper said they swabed the area around the spare tire, also the passenger side of his car.. if the girls was in the woods and no reason to move in his car maybe other cases? testing things take time too. DNA labs can be backed up for a long time with all the other crimes. so even if he told them he was in the area that day, they still can't just arrest based on that, they want to have their ducks lined up.
Yeah one in Wabash where they lived before moving to delphi
@@robinpartridge465Really? I’ve gotta read more/look into this deeper… I didn’t know he’s suspected of committing other heinous crimes. Terrible.
@@diamondringirlMaybe it’s because the witnesses said he was “covered in mud and blood.” So if he committed the crime then got into his vehicle (they swabbed his seatbelt as well) there could be transference/traces of the girls’ blood and DNA in his car. Plus, if he took off his jacket and tossed it in the trunk or on the passenger floorboard, there’s a chance they can get some evidence there as well. 🤞
@@diamondringirlI hope they get any and all evidence to nail him.. so he never gets out or sees any freedom again.
P.S. I’ve gotta read more/look into this deeper… I didn’t know he’s suspected of committing other heinous crimes. Terrible.
Justice is coming for these two beautiful baby angels. I’m so thankful that monster wasn’t able to keep this to himself forever. Abby and Libby deserved to live fruitful lives, they were smart girls who thought to record their attacker in a moment where they were undoubtedly terrified. Rest in peace sweet Libby and Abby, and sending endless love to their families. I can’t imagine how they even begin processing this new information.
I want to hear the phone confession myself
I feel ZERO PITY for him or his health! I also feel like someone that knows him well, knew in the back of their mind he was the one that killed the girls!!! They should have come forward! There’s no way I wouldn’t be able to identify my husband, dad or even a close family member or friend in a video like they show him on the bridge! I can’t wait for Justice! He needs to rot in hell for what he did !
PITY, not PITTY.
I agree! The wife and daughter had to think it might be him at the very least. I wonder if he told themhe was walking theretht day. What about his coworkers? How did they not think maybe it was him?
PITY NOT PITTY!
Exactly! Why aren't they holding the wife accountable? If I had any inkling that my husband had done this I would have turned his ass in so fast!
@@rebeccachurch5200Girl, I’m telling you…it’s disgusting how people are kissing up to the wife and trying to say she didn’t know or that she’s struggling to accept what he did and that’s why she’s sticking by him. She knew the whole time- there’s no way she didn’t. That small of a town? I saw her Facebook before she took it down and her posts said so much about her and who she was.
How can people totally disregard Keegan and Tony Kline now?? I’m sorry but they are involved. There’s no way keegan was going to meet up with them on that bridge that day but just decided to ditch them…no he sent them there to get murdered!
Especially a purple PT cruiser.... quite a rare car and colour..... Tony Klines mum owns a purple PT cruiser...
Exactly! This and those odd police sketches are the only things working in his favor right now and those are pretty big
I think he was a broker, groomed girls online & sold contact with them to other creeps who maybe aren’t as good with social media. Hopefully we will find out during the trial
That's the way I feel. I'm worried I seen that fake profile pic on my daughters phone shortly before this happened. She was 10 and just had a phone and was on social media but I was monitoring it really good and put a stop after seeing people that were approaching her online like this profile. I'm worried there's more than just the 3 of them.
Totally agree. Maybe he set the girls up for SA not knowing Allen would hurt them.
Incredible analysis and insight into a truly heartbreaking case, thank you. Praying for justice for Abby and Libby.
He is on tape confessing to his wife? This is very significant.
Very....they probably mad that up..
@@Jenny-lq1ignah, we’ll see the transcripts during trial.
Spousal communication should be protected. She can't be compelled to testify against him either.
@roxiea.769 He confessed to his mother, too.
@@bluschke52 oh wow!
Of course "After" he confesses, he's all of a sudden "disoriented , losing weight and acting ill" 🤦 SMH at this guy. Nothing wrong with him except being guilty of double kidnapping and double murder.🤔
Actually he was like that before he ever confessed.. he never confessed until after he was in jail.
God bless yall. Sorry for your loss. Hope i can meet yall in person some day.
I believe he's doing all this playing a game to plead insanity.
He's purposely trying to act crazy !
The amount of sadness I felt when I heard their wounds were caused by a “sharp object”. I hope they didn’t suffer for that long… rest in peace Abigail and Liberty, justice will be served soon.
90 minutes sadly you dont want to know what he did. it was released very early on. raped and tortures. abby was alive most of the night
@@chrisschneider850 How do you know this? Link?
@chrisschneider850 90 minutes? The recording Libby made was 2:50, and hikers saw Allen around 3:30.
Chris,
That’s not true. Don’t be such a degenerate
@@chrisschneider850 I never heard any of this. I heard they weren't releasing that information because of the investigation. I really hope and pray it's not true😭
That’s the reason you can’t trust anyone. We see people in your daily routine yet, you don’t know what they are capable of. “Very scary world 🌎 we live in”
I like when she said “you are as sick as your secrets” brilliant
👌
I have absolutely no sympathy for this Monster. He only became “mentally ill” once he was arrested, it’s not like he committed these terrible murders of 2 innocent girls and then immediately struggled to live with himself and immediately became mentally ill, No of course not, he carried on as normal for years, right up until he was caught. Hope he Rots in Hell😡
Lol 😂😂what did he expect a butler service and all the inmates bowing down to him?
It's terrifying to think one died before the other, and that they had to witness that before meeting their fate. Totally scum.
We'll get him for you L&A. We love you
I’ve thought about that as well 💔
I hope they nail his ass to the wall, and he NEVER sees an ounce of freedom ever again. Yes, we’ll get justice for you girls! 💕🙏🫶 RIP L&A
Allen's confession doesn't prove guilt. There needs to be evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt, period.
I still love ya Vinnie. Your intelligence, logic and compassion you clearly display to all victims is unmatched! Especially when the victims are young!
He worked at the local pharmacy. He knew the families inadvertently. He could have followed the girls on social media.. he knew the town's information by being a pharmacy tech. Maybe he picked them out and was stalking them....
He better pray he don't go to general pop..no Vaseline!!😂
Screams Pedophile ring. Kleine lured in the potential victims and prob shared that info. Too much of a coincidence for them to be unconnected.
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Framed people don’t confess to murders they did not commit to their own spouse.
Hey I haven’t been following this case since they started having suspects or talking about any related goings on that happened, where can I find some clear and concise explanations of who this Klein character is and what is up with all that?
Although I will say, a predominance of lone, unknown and undiscovered predators looking for and finding vulnerable and naive victims without the appropriate level of protections in place to shield them from these bastards is more likely than the criminals banding together to use teamwork and trust to accomplish something that’s easy enough with the simple advantages that come with age, experience, and being evil. A conspiracy to deliver young teens to a place teens go, to someone looking for victims and weirding out many people before ultimately finding a the least risky ones to attack, seems like a lot of coordinating around easily fulfilled parameters. From what I can tell this place was easy to lurk around in, and it was popular enough with local kids that 4 other young girls saw someone creepy too yet no system was in place to empower and encourage those girls to speak up or tell someone what they experienced there until it was already too late. Girls and women are so often invalidated when they notice behavior that is inappropriate or something makes them uncomfortable, and/or guys are so often allowed to just “be creepy” around young girls or women without suspicion or rebuke, that it’s possible for someone to lurk and wait around, in public, waiting it out until finally they see an opportunity to do the harm they came to do- and authorities don’t encourage young girls (or anyone, tbh) to call out and report these predatory behaviors, instead we tell them to be “smart” and avoid _becoming_ victims, but we imply the victims failing to remain safe is the problem, not the monsters who make them, create them, silence them or shame them. Why do we reinforce a world where most 13 year old boys would’ve rarely been in the same type of danger on that bridge, but any 2 girls nearly always are? Why does your gender determine whether or not you can go out for a walk during broad daylight in a public place and live to tell the tale?
@@eremiasranwolf3513 Richard Allen is not framed. He placed himself at the scene, as did other witnesses, right down to the clothing worn, which matched the guy from the video the girls took. A bullet cycled through his gun was found next to the girls, and a gun was heard being cocked on the video the girls took, as well as one of them mentioning the perp had one. And just because he has lost weight in prison, doesn't mean he is being tortured. Happens to alot of people when they're arrested and held. Less food, more stress.
And rather than confessing to police and maintain innocence to his wife, which one would argue could be the result of pressure from prison or police, instead he broke to his wife in a phone call. That's the sign of someone who has a conscience too heavy to handle. His behaviour only deteriorated after that call, after which she hung up "abruptly". He stopped eating and started acting erratically. The prison says after a physical and mental health assessment he is now back to more normal behaviour.
Where is the framing there?
@@Thespiritleads777 oh I think he did it, but I think he's connected to kleine. The girls were messaging that A.Shots account that day, and seems R.Allen was stalking them with purpose, like witness said "he was walking with purpose". I think K.Kleine was luring girls and sharing the info to a group or forum that Allen was part of.
RA should have been on their radar, it was either incompetent or unskilled police work. They had his statements the first week or two, it matches the other witness.
He talked to game warden not le.
Regardless who he talked to, he should’ve been looked at sooner.
@@crystledamron-delacruz1894 1000 percent
@@paulasoutchek3747 regardless 5 yrs later and LE just discovered last fall this may be the killer. Five year they should have reviewed the file sooner.. like I said incompetent LE or unskilled to not review Wardens report
I was wondering if they just dont want it out there yet that Kegan Kline is the one who ratted him out when they took kline out of jail on a field trip to the river last September and then boom a month later they make the arrest of Allen. So to keep it close to their chest they devised the plan to just release that he talked to a park ranger and it got overlooked, just to keep it all low key until they can finish up whatbthey gotta do. Somethin much more major is gonna come out of this i think.. just speculation obviously , but i hope they bring down a huge sex trafficking ring, and then at least we will know Libby and Abby did not die in vain😢 ....
Allen lived just a few houses away from Cody Patty. Just sad.
These cops botched this so badly, they could've got him so much sooner
It's outrageous! You know he was strutting like a pewcock, feeling he was so much smarter than not only the cops, but everyone! It won't bring these sweet souls back, but I hope they bring some action against the police.
Then tell us how you would’ve solved this any faster and make every single move you make 100% legal so he didn’t get off at trial
God only knows what that evil beast did to those poor little girls! He's a coward that deserves nothing less than the death penalty! For all we know that vicious mongrel may have already killed someone else even before he killed those girls! He probably got a little too comfortable with his evil ass self! My whole heart and soul hurts deeply for those precious girls and their families! Rip little angels, they finally caught the b*stard!
6 years... let's get the trial going ALREADY!!! DAMN
Lots of money to be made.... Lawyers love money.
He did not just "happen" to be there that day. Anthony Shots was the profile used by the child porn ring that is rampant in the backwoods of Indiana which includes Kegan and Tony Kline and so many others. The meeting was set up by Kegan but it was Allen's turn at bat (bad phrase, but you get the point). He was either not expecting 2 girls or once he got them down the hill, he lost control of them. Seeing people in the park, he knew he couldn't shoot so he stabbed instead. Stupid, blind, dumb luck he got away for so long and I personally feel that the only way he was put back on the radar was by Kline trying to save his own backside. I also feel that the searching they were doing in the river later on, when everyone was speculating about Kline and a plea bargain, had to do with finding the knife that Allen did it with. Just my two cents from someone watching but not in the know.
Has there been any news saying he was connected to them(the ring)?
@@817exo Though they did allude to the idea (during the press conferences) that there might be other players involved, they wouldn't muddy the murder case with it unless they felt someone else was an accessory to the actual murders.
That’s a great summation of the case. I felt like it was a local who knew about school being out that day, and it was a favorite trolling spot for him, and it couldn’t be the first crime like this, that he’s done.
It’s so hard to find anything about the victims. Were they assaulted prior to their death I wonder? Was this a case of pleasure turning to disaster? Was this a targeted hit? Wish they would provide some sort of motive.
Everyone needs to be taught that you NEVER go to a.second area. That is where the true horror will begin. And he guaranteed was counting on these girls being "good girls" and submitting. We need to.end that kind of thinking in people. If you feel like you are in danger, scream and yell, cry and crap your pants. Most often these low lives don't want all the attention, so they will.slink away if attention is on them. RIP beautiful sweet souls, Libby and Abby.
The main focus is getting justice for those two little girls.
I would never let my kids walk on a trail through the woods by themselves.
Lol had to be white parents lol
Blame the parents
I think this case is less a mystery than it is a case of police bungling the investigation.
Absolutely
Yesssss!
Doubt it.
I think they took their time in order to make their case.
The most mysterious part of this case to me, is WHY. Is this tied to Kline and the whole pedo crap? What’s the motive?
This is why we need trail cams in all the parks and forest too many people are being killed kidnapped attacked every state should have them in the park and the forest
No thanks.
Agree 100%!!
Just think of how many scum bag rapists and murderers could be behind bars because of cameras on the trails.
@@Flamerider68far less than there are in cities
No thanks. Sounds authoritarian
I believe there are more people involved in a sex ring that Allen was part of. Officials are possibly trying to gather info on these people to connect crimes. I also want the death penalty brought to bare on this situation. These men or women who are involved in sexual abuse/murder do not need to be allowed to breathe . So many very BAD people in prison that we are paying for their continued life with money better used to help victims recover.
What are they going to do if the other inmates are harassing him, suspend them for 3 days? No secret there.
The investigation takes as long as it takes. You follow the leads and follow the evidence. Every day that monsters walk free after these heinous crimes is frustrating, but you have to handle the case properly or risk evidence being suppressed.
They actually misplaced evidence they received next day after crime was committed, that's why there is so much criticism of the investigating police.
@@annereidy7981Yes, they did!! Unbelievable!!
Vinnie Politan is excellent. Keeps things interesting while sounding very conversational and earnest. Very few ums, ahs, or filler words. I’m a big Vinnie fan.
Have never heard of ANY person in custody being given music and an iPad to make phone calls and text messages any time they want!! And his defense attorneys are claiming his rights are being violated and he is being mistreated??!! His choice to not eat and sleep that’s not violating his rights!!
It's been the norm for years.
Sadly they get that and more.
He's not serving a sentence at a state prison. Most people are held in jails with those amenities because they're innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. In prison, they can purchase amenities.
It does seem odd but you know they were listening to every conversation and watching his online activity. They wanted him to relax somewhat and let his guard down. They probably had a team of criminal phychiatrists monitoring his every move.
@@Rebecca-hc5jueven in the state prisons like the one I work at has tablets and all that.
Time stamp 11:09
I've never been to Jail or Prison, but If I ever was, I do know without a doubt, no matter what my State of mind is, I'd NEVER Confess to a Double Child Homicide if I was Innocent!! I hope for Abby and Libbys family he confesses to the court and changes his plea to Guilty so they won't have to sit through a trial and hear details of the killings..
You are 100% right. Who would confess to a murder they did not do???!!! He did it, of course he did. So sad.
@@mjremy2605absolutely!! Obviously I have no way of knowing this as fact, lol but just my opinion, maybe he knows he's cooked and he's never going home again, so it could be he's hoping a confession will save him from the Death Penalty, and/or Maybe he's confessing hoping it'll one day save his soul from dark suffering eternity.. just a thought 🤷♂️
Depends....will this be a death case...are there others involved...Allen is charged with felony murder which means he could be an accomplice not the actual perpetrator although found cartridge is a very big deal. Ballistic evidence for ejected bullets and matching to a gun are an exact science, which the defense well knows. Apparently, that cartridge would be an exact match to just Allen's gun. That is why LE nailed him on no one else ever using his gun. Just that alone is game changer.
@@biztrak4436 good question that I haven't really thought about yet... I don't know if being found guilty for Felony 2 Murder, Is allowed for the ultimate punishment being the Death Penalty.. It's still Murder so I'd assume so.. but I'm not sure
@@NoUseForAName0626 I'm guessing also. My understanding which may not be correct is that the Felony part allows for a murder charge and maybe even a death penalty but the word felony apparently allows broader charges. What someone said on the net that this kind of charge is necessary in order to 'extend' the charges out to any person that is a part of the crime. It seems like LE and other podcasters are indicating more involement from others. Wait and see I guess....
Unless, you have the original transcripts and recording that becomes hear say. I hope justice is served for the girls. He just needs to be honest and let his confession be real.
I can't imagine his wife and daughter, what they feel and going through.
@carolcaponigro, his wife is still supporting him, even after he confessed to her. She shows up for court for all his hearings 😱
@@clarice3978they also probably know he is "strange", but he's probably not really sharp, so he probably wasn't with anybody too sharp either
Nothing compared to his victims . Abby and Libby are dead . His wife is choosing to “ stand by her man “ what a disgusting vile women she is . Just knowing he lured then brutally murdered two best friends should be enough to make her end their relationship . She doesn’t deserve my sympathy . His daughter should disown him too . Like Carrie BTK killers daughter . She disowned her father and has no contact with him ,
His daughter? Yes. His wife? She’s as bad as he is. Ignored the clear footage, audio, info etc. She knew
@@Beefer-e4j sure thing Poirot.
Abby & Libby should still be here breathing, living, loving, enjoying the carefree lives of young adults, making memories & planning for their future. Of course, our innocent-until-proven-guilty justice system “alleges” him to have committed the horrendous murders of 2 children!! It’s hard not to acknowledge the MANY pieces of evidence which point directly at him being the murderer. His 👁️👁️’s tell it all. Rest in peace girls.💔💔🥀🥀🕊️🕊️
They're parents shouldn't have left then alone that would've helped alot you think?
The fathers should be allowed to be put him in a room and do whatever they want to that devil.
If She was still supporting him even after " confessing " makes me believe that She knows all this time that He was the murder, and just stops abruptely the call because She didnt wanted more to be recorded
allen, do the silly pool-hall dance for the prisoners
Mannn you tellin me his wife didn't recognize him in that video..clothing etc...mannnn 😂wut eva
There is so much more to this story….
I hope his treatment gets worse. He's an evil man who murdered CHILDREN. His mental problems are nothing more than waking up to the realization that he is going to spend the rest of his life in prison.
How about the resemblance of his daughter to Libby? How about his home 5 mins away? How about how Keegan knew they were there & maybe told or sold that info or just broadcasted it or something alerting Richard Allen to them being there?
I wonder if he frequented the area hunting, so he was very comfortable in that the land belonged to someone else.
He didn't act like that until he had told his wife what he had done. He realized he fucked up with telling her the truth and her reaction was not what he wanted so he had to do something to make it seem like he didn't mean it. When they are locked up they do believe that someone is listening in to each and every one who calls so they do talk as if no one can hear it but it happens all the time and they don't listen to all calls or they won't be able to get people to bring drugs in and tell people to do something for them on the outside. He didn't think he was going to get caught until she hung up then he felt she was going to say something he freaked out but had to act up in a way that he can say he doesn't understand what he is doing. It's just a play a long game I should say.
They don’t “believe” they are being recorded, they actually are and are told so too!
I think the oppisite. He is just fucked. And maybe psykotic. But I think not guildy. Im sorry but there is no real evidence. The bullet couldt have been placed. There is a very very good reason for them to make him look like the murderer. I think some VIP kind of guys are invovled
my guess he is playing it for all it's worth. he planned this. he told her, (why, i have my own idea why) but then he starts with the eating paper..called Pica.. usually something kids do, or pregnant women.. it can be brought on by stress or lack of a vitamin or iron.. but it was so sudden.. so my guess is he is faking it to pretend he's mentally ill.. it won't change the fact he probably wasn't mentally ill at the time of murders.. it just means he may not be mentally able to defend himself during trial. they may throw him in a mental hospital but with a crime like this, he still won't ever walk free again.
6:30 that poor mother looks lifeless, literally exhausted from grief. So sad!
That monster is trying to act insane..he’s just evil!
But what did he say in that phone call? Why is no one saying what exactly it is that he said?
That hasn't been released to the public yet