I love Stu's shoutout to Chris Skillings and the Snowman Doubles. That is truly the only pattern, if you even want to call it that, where lefty...righty...one or two handed....it doesn't matter. Everyone struggles equally.
@@TheHouseBowling yes it is, which is why I think it has such a big turnout every year. On that pattern, no one really has an advantage. It's all about who can read the lanes fastest and make the adjustments needed.
I've had the same idea as Belmonte's second pattern, and I named it Twin Towers. Oil 50 ft from 7 to the gutter, and the middle to 43 feet. High volume on the edges.
I stopped bowling about 10 years ago, it started becoming more physically difficult for me. I bowled many years on wood lanes, and my favorite shot was down and in between the first arrow and the gutter. My teamates used to tease me that if it wasn't in the gutter I had a good chance to strike.
6:009:58 10/10 would contribute to a GoFundMe or whatever to make a tournament like this happen, I wanna see bowlers bowl on more wacky patterns like this. Sounds like a blast, would really test their skill and creativity.
Pat I bought the bowling ball u recommend and now i been going up in avg and joining my first league at my bowling alley what’s a good bowling ball that doesn’t curve as much well a good spare ball
I think its the friction that throws my game off. therefore I want to oil my ball with lane oil. is it ok to lane oil your ball with a spay bottle that has lane oil in it?
Very late but love this video idea! Would probably say around 36 ft, 1.5:1. I don’t have the most revs, but I have good accuracy. Difficult pattern that rewards good players and allows me to throw it down the right side hard.
I did a 37 foot pattern and I got to know it really fast and I was using a reactive pearl by big foot radical and it was fun but I have noticed other LANE‘s like 40-ish feet can be very challenging. That’s the reason why I’m getting a mindset for heavy oiled lanes. I hope that makes sense. I’m still getting to know my bowling again.
I’m pretty much in the same boat as Russo. Preferably a short pattern, but if I can’t, any pattern that I can throw the Venom Shock on. (Aka, all of them).
I think I am on the right track now. like 1 pin away from striking but I think its the friction right now. I feel if I bring my own lane oil & spray my bowling balls every so often it would help my game. oil is good NOT bad in bowling. Packy PROVED it by bowling on striped from oil lanes. today is 4-27-23 PS I have tried using the sea-saw towel by sea-sawing the oil then warping the ball in the sea-saw towel & left in the ball return until it was my turn to bowl on league & I felt like it did not help at all! I think oil is NOT the problem but the solution to better bowling.
I loved this video. Interesting take and it is great to see what each bowler is thinking. Some going to what they use best, others trying to make 2 handers equal to 1 handers.
So the middle of the pattern would be around 37 ft, around 6-1. However... everything outside of 9 is 49 ft. I bowled a specific 37 ft pattern, and the gutters had 0 friction in that house. The field average was around 150. I would looooooove to see pro's bowl on that
I know it’s happened/does happen but it’s be a fun experiment to have all of these tournaments that have TV shows (excluding the wsob of course) to use two different patterns on each lane.
There are a few tournaments like that on tour. Problem with those are, the bowlers that are on top 90% of the time end up just throwing the same ball same line on each lane. Cause once they get locked in, they just take off ya know
I'd love to see someone set up a shot one time where the pattern is reversed. Start at the pin deck and finish at the foul line, so all of your oil is at the back. Then we'll see who can get dialed in.
i made a 43 ft pattern that is hour glass shaped. forward oil starts 8 to 8 but widens all the way out to the gutter to about 37 ft. with a 6 ft buff zone. the reverse oil starts at 10 to 10 at 35 ft and widens out to the gutter about 5 ft from the foul line. buffs in the first 5ft before it stops. right around 1.6 - 1.8 to 1 ratio. slow speed on the heads and mids fast speed on the back of the pattern. I call it "Call my Mom"
I love the guys who hate on urethane. Urethane was in the game before most of them were an itch in their Daddy's drawers... We could always ban reactive... go to TWO approved coverstocks and TWO approved cores... and limit arsenals to 3 balls total... and make these bowlers actually show us they know how to consistently manipulate their speeds and releases to score well, regardless of the lane conditions. (Yeah, the manufacturers would hate it... but... TOO BAD. Bowling was meant to be won or lost on the lane... not in a laboratory or factory.) We can also completely ban disclosing what the pattern is to bowlers before and during a tournament, and only allow them to know the pattern AFTER the event is OVER. (That includes banning 'visible' or 'dyed' oil, too!) THAT would separate the BOWLERS from the weaklings who rely on hook in a box to get over.
I would love to see a complete field of lefty for 1 tournament. They would experience a multi players transition instead oft heirs own transition. Just kidding! I’m not…
“Shutting the left out once a year.” What? actually the idea of forcing bowlers to play in one part of the lane for the entire block isn’t a half bad idea. I’d rather see that then pattern manipulation
Why'd you leave my answer out? 🤣🤣🤣 "Yes" ☺
Hahaha we should’ve left it in!
"Yall suck on a house shot" killed me lmao.
40 feet, 3.25:1 ratio, 30ml of volume.
Edit: Belmo’s answers made me laugh out loud. Dude has definitely thought about this before. 😂😂
He’s a funny one!!
@@TheHouseBowling in belmo's case I would triple the amount of oil on the lanes especially at break point just to be petty.
@@steveboone1498 he's the best bowler the harder the lane is just makes it easier for him to win.
@@BassRacerx just make him bowl with a marble
I understood belmo as crazy as he sounded. It's in the realm of the known unknown.
Lmfaooooo at Mikey and Darren wth was that lol 😂😂😂😂 gotta love it bro
Bahaha I love Marshall Kent😂 3:24
I love Stu's shoutout to Chris Skillings and the Snowman Doubles. That is truly the only pattern, if you even want to call it that, where lefty...righty...one or two handed....it doesn't matter. Everyone struggles equally.
That pattern is TOUGH!!
@@TheHouseBowling yes it is, which is why I think it has such a big turnout every year. On that pattern, no one really has an advantage. It's all about who can read the lanes fastest and make the adjustments needed.
Belmo always gotta be the best at everything hahaha even answering questions the dude out shines everyone else
Awesome video! Definitely a lot of different ideas for oil patterns!
Belmo out here describing my league pattern on Monday nights. 😭😭😭
Lol
This was an awesome vid! Really like hearing everyone's ideas
1:25 (oil on outside, dry in middle) 15 mil forward only 35 ft, 1:1 15 mil to 45 ft reverse only.... ice in front, fire in rear.
You have a lot of thoughts!
I love this type of video. Keep up the great work.
Great topic, you guys are killing it lately.
Kyle, “Thirty… sfveven feet!” 😂
I've had the same idea as Belmonte's second pattern, and I named it Twin Towers. Oil 50 ft from 7 to the gutter, and the middle to 43 feet. High volume on the edges.
I love how you used common sense on AJ!! Totally owned him! That was great
I would love to see one tournament a year where urethane is banned
I stopped bowling about 10 years ago, it started becoming more physically difficult for me. I bowled many years on wood lanes, and my favorite shot was down and in between the first arrow and the gutter. My teamates used to tease me that if it wasn't in the gutter I had a good chance to strike.
Living on the edge!!
“Sean you’re a ball rep” “Yeah 😐”
I want more of that guy!
Hahaha
This happened in the video as I read this comemnt lmao the timing was halirous
I can't stand Belmo on the lanes but love him off the lanes. Good stuff Keven!
Belmo has some interesting thoughts about the oil patterns.
Yes. It's insane, but I like it 😅
Local summer league every week laying down a different one of these answers would be a "Dream league". Really like the Tang's idea!
Ok, that was awesome 👏👏👏
6:00 9:58 10/10 would contribute to a GoFundMe or whatever to make a tournament like this happen, I wanna see bowlers bowl on more wacky patterns like this. Sounds like a blast, would really test their skill and creativity.
Pat I bought the bowling ball u recommend and now i been going up in avg and joining my first league at my bowling alley what’s a good bowling ball that doesn’t curve as much well a good spare ball
I love bowling and I also love this channel!
The craziest pattern I bowled on was 32ft 10ml 4:1
What would you guys throw on this?
Probably throw the thane! And I would say 32’ is shoooort so urethane is a must!
I threw plastic
@@TheHouseBowling it was a retro tournament where we bowled on a old school pattern where we had reactions from the 70s and 80s
@@TheHouseBowling purple hammer?
I need more of Sean 😂😂
45 ft, 2:1 25.5 mL. The Dragon pattern is about the only sport shot i can consistently do good on.
So that might have to be your pattern of choice!
47-50 ft heavy and flat from 5 to 5 and blend out from there at like 2 to 1 ratio. No idea how that would play but sounds interesting.
Is ok if I bring a spry bottle to spry my bowling ball with lane oil. I want to add oil to my game? until my ball slides to the pins
I think its the friction that throws my game off. therefore I want to oil my ball with lane oil. is it ok to lane oil your ball with a spay bottle that has lane oil in it?
I thought I was the only one bold enough to say a house shot lol
Very late but love this video idea!
Would probably say around 36 ft, 1.5:1. I don’t have the most revs, but I have good accuracy. Difficult pattern that rewards good players and allows me to throw it down the right side hard.
I did a 37 foot pattern and I got to know it really fast and I was using a reactive pearl by big foot radical and it was fun but I have noticed other LANE‘s like 40-ish feet can be very challenging. That’s the reason why I’m getting a mindset for heavy oiled lanes. I hope that makes sense. I’m still getting to know my bowling again.
“Listen, we live in a world” - Jason Belmonte
I'm still using urethane cliffed or 1:1 left side. Doesn't matter. They have hybrids
40 ft, 4.5:1, 27 ml.
However, it's 7 to 7 block to 25 feet. Then, oil on every other board (think like a rake) up to 40 ft. Clean back ends.
I would love to see 1 tournament on a house shot
all you guys suck on house patterns...priceless! Sean is my new hero.
I’m pretty much in the same boat as Russo. Preferably a short pattern, but if I can’t, any pattern that I can throw the Venom Shock on. (Aka, all of them).
Love bowling and love your videos
Thanks Edward!!
What were they doing about 1980?
I think I am on the right track now. like 1 pin away from striking but I think its the friction right now. I feel if I bring my own lane oil & spray my bowling balls every so often it would help my game. oil is good NOT bad in bowling. Packy PROVED it by bowling on striped from oil lanes. today is 4-27-23 PS I have tried using the sea-saw towel by sea-sawing the oil then warping the ball in the sea-saw towel & left in the ball return until it was my turn to bowl on league & I felt like it did not help at all! I think oil is NOT the problem but the solution to better bowling.
Love this channel
I loved this video.
Interesting take and it is great to see what each bowler is thinking.
Some going to what they use best, others trying to make 2 handers equal to 1 handers.
Belmo big brained this one. hopefully when he retires he becomes PBA president.
happy belated birthday Packy!
Oil pattern I would choose a one that works for me sometimes I do amazing on them or suck
Haha I feel that big time!
When will my iPhone 14 Pro Max be arriving a repeated you my $44 when will it be arriving?
Love this channel and will always be the first to see.
So the middle of the pattern would be around 37 ft, around 6-1. However... everything outside of 9 is 49 ft. I bowled a specific 37 ft pattern, and the gutters had 0 friction in that house. The field average was around 150. I would looooooove to see pro's bowl on that
Have to throw in and Endless 10th Frame bonus. If you throw all 3 in the 10th, you can keep throwing until you don't strike for extra bonus pins.
Sad that literally every pro except 1 was like "Make it so you can't use urethane"
Ogle’s the greatest 😂😂😂
I know it’s happened/does happen but it’s be a fun experiment to have all of these tournaments that have TV shows (excluding the wsob of course) to use two different patterns on each lane.
There are a few tournaments like that on tour. Problem with those are, the bowlers that are on top 90% of the time end up just throwing the same ball same line on each lane. Cause once they get locked in, they just take off ya know
i understand the distance, but could someone explain the ratio ?
The ratio essentially explains how easy it will be the higher the ratio the easier the pattern!
@@TheHouseBowling thanks!
1:32 I cannot stress this enough - I will watch/listen to whatever Frankie is part of if you guys make it. Just saying.
42ft reverse block
Reverse brush drop
25 feet
I think there should be a house shot tournament where bowlers are only allowed two balls
At 5:09 was Darren doing the filthy frank thing
Belmo wants norm to win one. Most guys couldn’t get soft enough with their hands to play his pattern
How about the pattern that makes league bowlers mad at open bowlers: inverted. Wet on the outside, dry in the middle. I can hear the howls now... lol.
I'd love to see someone set up a shot one time where the pattern is reversed. Start at the pin deck and finish at the foul line, so all of your oil is at the back. Then we'll see who can get dialed in.
I’m not sure anyone would be able to!
Here comes Robert smith lofting it 20 feet down the lane again!
27' 1 to 2.5 ratio 45 mils of oil the very last board on the outside bone dry.
Length, girth, and ratio. The three horsemen of oil patterns.
i am lane ignorant i pick ball up i throw ball and adjust i am not good just kinda lucky. good video guys.
That’s great! A lot of guys out here do the same!
I would oil it 60 feet from foul line to the head pin as heavy as they can be oiled
Love the guys that dont know, just a normal guy that knows how to roll the ball and knows nothing about all the oil patterns😂❤
Hmmmm. For me? 37', 6:1 or 8:1 ratio, probably 25 to 30 mils. Something that'll like to hook back from boards 1 through 10 at the breakpoint.
Reverse block at 41 ft. :D
The good ole reverse block
43ft, 3:1, 45ml of oil. One ball only per tournament. 6 game blocks. Bowl on fresh and burn each squad.
Packy out of hand for the girth comment XD
Heaviest concentration of oil on the center line while everything else is dry as a desert.
There we go!
I wanted to hear what TJ was gonna say lol
Since I'm a league hack, house shot. 😂
35 ft 3 to 1 and I do a backup ball
Backup ball! That’s fun!
1:1 37 feet 45mils
Cheetah pattern on top of shark pattern
Lol say whaaat?
@@TheHouseBowling whaaat
I thought they were gonna bowl on custom oiled lanes
I love you packy ❤
The tangs idea would be good except Anthony simonsen would win every tournament because he would throw a backup all on the left lane
These types of patterns should be in the TOC or the World's. And remove that ink from the TV shows.
41ft 0.5 to 1 with 41 mils of oil
Francois looks like a drawf standing instead of sitting. LOL
Both has the same mustache and voice! 🤪
What up is with all the hate of a urethane ball?
I don’t know I got a lot of love for it
@@TheHouseBowling I'm glad you could decipher my out of order typing lol... Yeah I love mine too 🤷🏼♂️
Just put out this past years Bradley open pattern 😂
Talk about some surfaced bowling balls!
Seemed like their was NO real preferred pattern??
i made a 43 ft pattern that is hour glass shaped. forward oil starts 8 to 8 but widens all the way out to the gutter to about 37 ft. with a 6 ft buff zone. the reverse oil starts at 10 to 10 at 35 ft and widens out to the gutter about 5 ft from the foul line. buffs in the first 5ft before it stops. right around 1.6 - 1.8 to 1 ratio. slow speed on the heads and mids fast speed on the back of the pattern. I call it "Call my Mom"
I love the guys who hate on urethane.
Urethane was in the game before most of them were an itch in their Daddy's drawers...
We could always ban reactive... go to TWO approved coverstocks and TWO approved cores... and limit arsenals to 3 balls total... and make these bowlers actually show us they know how to consistently manipulate their speeds and releases to score well, regardless of the lane conditions. (Yeah, the manufacturers would hate it... but... TOO BAD. Bowling was meant to be won or lost on the lane... not in a laboratory or factory.)
We can also completely ban disclosing what the pattern is to bowlers before and during a tournament, and only allow them to know the pattern AFTER the event is OVER. (That includes banning 'visible' or 'dyed' oil, too!)
THAT would separate the BOWLERS from the weaklings who rely on hook in a box to get over.
Go back to the short oil of the 80s and plastic balls with modern, good cores. Evening the score up a bit and rewarding accuracy.
Dick Allen’s pronoun is, Alien 👽
Hahaha
@@TheHouseBowling evil laugh 😈 hahahahaha
I would love to see a complete field of lefty for 1 tournament. They would experience a multi players transition instead oft heirs own transition.
Just kidding!
I’m not…
59.95 feet
1:1
923.7 ml
very easy
Belmo. What?
40 feet 3:1 40 miL.
“Shutting the left out once a year.”
What?
actually the idea of forcing bowlers to play in one part of the lane for the entire block isn’t a half bad idea. I’d rather see that then pattern manipulation
I can see why they saved belmo for last lol