The idea that Lawrence committed suicide by the idiotic method of purposely crashing his motorcycle is absurd. Anyone with half a brain would be afraid of crippling himself instead of dying.
I have a friend who tried to kill himself by driving his car into a tree at 160ks. He lives, can walk but will never run again. Constant pain from the screws that hold his pelvis together. He is glad to be alive though. Driving a car into a tree, at speed, is a common way for people to kill themselves.
He is also responsible for the development of motorcycle helmet and the use of it to prevent severe head injuries as he died of the same. Edit: When I said he is responsible for developing helmets I meant his fatal accident. Someone said incorrect without understanding. Thank you.
I saw the movie in 1962 when I was 7 years old. He became my hero gave me the call to adventure. Joined the French Foreign Legion in the seventies. Went to the desert in Africa and lived the dream ! Thank you Lawrence for that call to adventure and following the seldom followed path.
T.E. was a highly intelligent, troubled soul who lived a life of extremes, dreams and aspirations until his untimely death that has unanswered questions still, but suicide by motorcycle crash is nonsense, despite his wish to die, (as many people do without acting upon it.) Reading his books and his words give a glimpse into his soul, a man of principle, tormented by inner doubts , but a MAN of spiritual stature. Let him R.I.P. please.
Agreed. I doubt he tried to kill himself by motorcycle. But he probably pushed the edge a lot knowing what a likely outcome COULD be and not being scared of it, and perhaps welcoming it.
@@AntiBtsArmy18The fighting between muslims isn't attributed to one man. Just like the assasstionation of the archduke didn't start the ww 1. People have been fighting eachother ever since we were apes.
Hugh Cairns was a neurologist in 1935 who treated Lawrence and later developed early versions of crash helmets. You might say that there is a direct line from Lowell Thomas through Lawrence and Cairns to the motorcycle and other helmets we use today.
As soon as I heard this my immediate thought was that the problem with our society today is that our ancestors are responsible for all that is bad and that we have no control nor responsibility for our own actions. It's like saying that the person who invented the wheel is responsible for all car accidents.
Soft Western Academics, Leftists and Neo-Cosmopolitans view guilt, shame, and blaming as some sort of religious tenet. There's no nuance in their dogma and so the same way they hate figures who are hundreds of years old like Christopher Columbus for not being modern and "woke" is the same reason they need some way to accuse him of at least some crime that goes against the modern Bolzhevik schizophrenia. And add to that Lawrence is a white guy from England, so automatically his "privilege" rank is too high. They gotta knock him down a few pegs.
"Undeniably has modern blood on his hands" To suggest Lawrence's use of guerilla warfare was the first and therfeore all modern warfare using these tactics is because of him is ridiculous. Im sure through the annuals of history will show any small force against an over welmingly large one can only survive using those tactics. I think the modern day Arabs would have worked that out themselves !!!
It is not what they mean. Lawrence broke new ground in guerilla tactics by transitioning back and forth from set-piece positional battles to guerilla tactics. He brought armored cars into combat. Solved complex logistical problems. He made maps, mastered different languages. and navigated through the cultural difficulties with different Arab tribes. He was brilliant and important.
@@rup54Exactly! The United States has done similar things--arming and training guerilla fighters in the Middle East and Central America, only to have those same tactics and weapons turn against us in future conflicts!
Learning about T.E. Lawrence introduced me to Gertrude Bell. Writer, archaeologist and political officer for the British Empire. Who was responsible for establishing the Iraq Museum and was immensely influential in forming the borders of Iraq. Recent studies from former secret documents and archive sources - her journals and letters and accounts about her from relevant contemporaries, including Lawrence ( who knew her personally ) have provided significant proof her contributions had a greater impact then even Lawrence. She spent her life studying the languages and cultures of the Middle East, integrating with the natives on a far more intimate level than Lawrence. No exciting battles or dramatic conflicts. She achieved her goals through diplomatic means. She has been called " The Secret Kingmaker". Yet until recent years, she has been historically ignored. In 2015 a film, "The Queen of the Desert" was released. Nicole Kidman plays Gertrude. 2017 a documentary, "Letters from Baghdad" gives a fascinating account of this woman's life. P.S. 7:05 In the photograph, Gertrude can be seen standing in the far left.
In 'A Dangerous Man - Lawrence After Arabia' Gertrude Bell is portrayed undermining Prince Faisal to the British delegation when she exposes the fact that Faisal not only spoke English, but also understood all the nuances of the language. In truth Bell was working hard with Lawrence to ensure that a stable Middle East came out of the Peace Conference with Faisal as King of Iraq.
In 1960 a play ran in London's West end called " Ross ". It was written by Terence Rattigan and concerned Lawrence's time in the RAF. The eponymous hero was played by Alec Guinness, who starred in the movie " Lawrence of Arabia ".
Correct. British history is filled with these people - especially in the military. Also, many famous Irishmen were from the Protestant English upper middle classes or Aristocracy. As property owners in Ireland, they couldn't be soft. Collecting rent and running an estate in C19th Ireland required responsibility, authority, and toughness. Many were mavericks and talented and desired justice for Roman Catholics. Others could be bullies.
@@rup54I’m open to correction, but have previously understood that many people involved in the Irish Nationalist Movement in the C19th were from the Anglo-Irish Protestant Ascendency.
@@tomcooper-hayes6579 Yes. Some very important leaders were Protestants - probably not the landowners. It is complex. The history of the British Isles is fascinating. Sadly, in the past, Roman Catholics frequently wrote Republican Irish nationalist Protestants out of their history.
Lawrence left the British Army and then re enlisted in the RFC (RAF) as an Airman, in the 70's I was Based at an RAF Training camp at RAF Cranwell in Lincolnshire England, I was working in an Old Building At Cranwell which was an earlier Concrete Hut, Circa 1920 and came apone an old inscription scribed on a bunk wall..."Lawrence of Arabia" to this day I can see him.... 3
He didn't invent the use of guerilla warfare in the middle east, he just adapted it to the modern battlefields of the first world war, in the middle east.
The American colonists were really great at guerilla warfare, hitting superior British forces and running. If the South fought like that they might have won the civil war, instead of squaring off in open European style battles, wasting valuable, irreplaceable men to exposed fire.
The one single, monumental part of Lawrence's true life story, the part that the iconic movie completely ignores... OIL -the reason for everything in the Middle East. Lawrence was trained as an MI6 intelligence agent to make sure the British grabbed it from the Arabs.... As to his death... it is highly suspected, and indeed substantial proof that he was assassinated under direct orders from his very close 'friend' Winston Churchill. Lawrence was very outspoken and knew a lot of government secrets, including Churchill's personal dark dealings... My intense research of him showed that Lawrence quickly realized that on the wide, flat deserts he had to cross with heavy loads of explosives and weapons, an automobile could cover ground much faster than a camel. But these weren’t just any automobiles. Lawrence’s desert raiding machines comprised nine Rolls Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost motorcars, including a personal vehicle he named the Blue Mist. Churchill knew that Lawrence was an adventurer and that he loved his Brough Superior motorcycles more than probably his typewriter. The experience Lawrence underwent at the hands of the Turks made it impossible for him to have any sensible relationship. His love was transferred to his motorcycle, his cottage and typewriter. The David Lean movie starts with Lawrence's motorcycle'accident'... Year’s later evidence relating to the crash that had hitherto been suppressed began to surface. Revealed were the vital clues to a mysterious black car that had been deliberately ignored at Lawrence's strange 'official' inquest, at the insistence of MI5 the British secret service. Equally controversially the investigation into Lawrence's death was not conducted by the local police, the normal procedure, but by MI5 officials who surrounded Bovington military camp where the inquest was held. One can only wonder why such extreme measures were taken for what was claimed to be a simple accident. What was there to hide? Nevertheless, one serving soldier stationed at Bovington did claim to have seen a black car at the scene of the accident. This soldier, Private Catchpole, was so unnerved by his cross examination - or subsequent events - that he conveniently shot himself. Not the kind of true history that the likes of Wikipedia and the 'History' Channel peddles is it?
@@stormywindmill Quite possibly... As I said, Lawrence was very outspoken and Churchill was corrupt as they come, always in debt and easy to buyoff. The IRA from the beginning was run as controlled opposition by MI5, the genuine IRA fighters could never understand why the were always being betrayed. Churchill is directly linked to so many monstrous betrayals, and some of that was partially portrayed in the PLEAKY BLINDERS tv series.
Interesting alternative perspective in places undermining its trustworthiness by minor and major errors e.g. MI5 is not «Britain’s secret service», but the internal security service (includes Northern Ireland) reporting to the Home Office. «MI6» is the Secret Intelligence Service (an external intelligence agency roughly equivalent to the CIA, reporting to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office).
@@garthlyon You're right...a Rose by any other name. It's reported that over 90% of the world's terrorist events are created by the CIA/MOSSAD/MI5/6...These so called 'intelligence' agencies DO NOT work for the good of the people, the country or the flag, and never have done...They work, they serve only the BANK$TER$, Industrialists and the Ruling Elite. It's funny, all the top British authors from H.G. Wells, Ian Fleming, Roald Dahl, John le Carre, Graham Greene, Frederick Forsythe, Somerset Maugham and on and on...let alone America's Ernest Hemmingway and many others, ALL give us a false and totally socially engineered perspective of history! -Thankyou for your COMMENT.
He packed more into his short life than a hundred of us could dare to dream. It didn't mention the cycling tour of France as a teenager, the trip to the Byzantine castles before his 21st birthday. That he saved the life of German archeological crew also at Carchemish during a revolt. The 4 years spent there he established schooling and healthcare for all the kids, not just one. Some of the maps he worked on included the coast of Gallipoli that were used in the landing by the Australian and New Zealand Corps. The whole family would have been interesting people. From other books I've read, his older brother and their mother were among the first missionaries to China in the 1920's
@@fuzzamajumula LOL- Many people are born with money and do squat with it. He was a unique man period. What have YOU done with WHAT you HAVE??? - My uncle during the U.S.'s GREAT Depression (from 1929 - 1941) (no safety nets such as welfare, SNAP et al) survived as many did by giving to others. They had a dairy farm and would leave milk at neighbors who in turn left veggies so on at their door steps. - I might add many of his generation (my fathers) fought in WWII to defend the US. and her freedoms. - Later HE sold "fire extinguishers" door to door. - And later sold real estate becominig a Millionaire. All of his children get SQUAT and work for him or others. - Regardless of wealth MANY create opportunities and go from there. - Some starting in Poverty to become immensely wealthy (Billionaires). The common theme was they WORKED hard to do so, by giving products or ideas to OTHERS who benefitted. - Oprah Winfrey (for one) no water, electricity, single mom - Howard Schult (Poor - started Starbucks) - Ralph Lauren (I used to work in NYC's fashion district long ago) "So poor we had hand me down clothes" - learned how to sew to create his own. - Larry Ellison (worth $158.9 Billion) (poor S. Side of Chicago) - Self MADE Billionaire - businessman and investor - HOME DEPOT!
Lawrence was brought up in Victorian times so is difficult to understand with today's thinking. He was essentially an incredibly kind, humble and private man from what I can gather from his Hundreds of letters written while in RAF College Cranwell where I work. He carried alot of guilt and damage and would have recieved support today. The truth regarding his death was due to be released in 2020. He is fondly remembered in Lincs and RAF College Cranwell Library has a Lawrence room and there is a Lawrence club on site.
He was a great man. One theory is that given he sought to avoid war with Hitler, and wanted to meet with Hitler, certain government ppl knocked him off in his accident
@@juttamaier2111 His letters from Lincolnshire are available in a book but not sure if it's widely available. We have a copy in College Hall Library RAF Cranwell. Warm greetings
Lawrence of Arabia would be thrown in jail nowadays. He helped and worked with Syrians, Persians ( Iran ) and Arabs to defeat Turkey ( Now a NATO country ) The Brittish have SAS training the Turks. America has Green Berets and SEALS stationed in Turkey on a full time basis. My how things have changed.
What I find silly is that you assume that we all learn by watching movies. Come on! Some of us actually read you know: Lawrence was an archaeologist, an astute historian and linguist, and his book Seven Pillars of Wisdom, is a classic which you should read. The MOVIE is just that: a movie!!!
His book on the seven pillars of wisdom also describes the Turkish genocide on the Armenians, and how the atheistic young Turcs wanted a pure Turkish bloodline, hating Armenians, Arabs, and everyone who was different. He also includes how the Arabs revolted on one occasion (before Lawrence was a leading figure), and the Turcs "having trained killing on the Armenians" raped the Arab women, cemented the men into ther house and lit them on fire, followed by killing every breathing person and animal in the city. Lawrence, heaing all these things, was really supportive for the Arabs to become free from Turkish tiranny. He really believed that the British Empire would support their cause for the same noble reason. But what the Arabs warned him of, became true: Britain wasn't interested in freeing the Arabs, Christians and other minorities from Turkish annihilation, but was only interested in what their hands could take once power was destabilised in the region. In short: the Young Turcs are still applauded in the West for being "Western", while the genocides are condemmed without naming the perpetrators. History proved the hypocrisy of British words and promises, and still proves the hypocrisy of Western standards. Democracy and freedom are what Western people think they spread, but outside Europe people only see the harsh political reality: the West does not want it for the rest of the world so it seems. It is a difficult truth to live with.
The British made promises to both the Arabs and the Jews in the midst of WW1 to give one group independence and the other a home land. Despite thousands of arabs laying down their lives in the fight against the Ottoman Turks, however it was only to the Jews that the British promise was kept. So instead of gaining independence the British and the French through their emissaries George Picot and Mark Sykes divided up the middle east between themselves. Sadly this move paved the way for conflict in the region costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. And continues to this day. The English are a vile selfish self serving nation. Always have been always will be.
“Hypocrisy” would include commenters who expect the British to spend enormous amounts of blood and treasure without any consideration of their own national interest. It might equally apply to commentators who disparage Laurence’s assessment of various Arab types or cultures as “racist” and “colonialist” without having experienced the effects of those cultures on the ground. There are plentiful accounts by British, Australian and New Zealand troops of Arabs stealing and murdering their ostensible allies , while passing intelligence report to their Turkish “enemies”. In other words, the situation was as complicated as Lawrence himself .
If you looking someone to blame for current state of Middle east Lawrence one of them.This snake ofc villify Turkish and speak Arabs and Palestines for betray to Ottomans.So you can divide and conquer.There are 25 thousands ottoman soldiers killed by Arabs and England forces and after that Lawrence lied to Sheriff Husssein about giving british occupied lands.They give this lands to Jews.He create a century old blood and war cheografy by his own hands.If there is a hell that pos must be in deepest part.
You have got your cottages mixed up - Lawrence moved into a summerhouse in his parents garden. The cottage shown is "Clouds Hill" which Lawrence bought when he was much older - it is one mile north of Bovington Camp in Dorset and is where he was living when he died in a motorcycle accident
Interesting. However, I am struck by the fact that on one hand the Narrator states that Lawrence was a HOMOSEXUAL, BUT THEN HE GOES ON TO STATE WHETHER HE WAS OR WAS ASEXUAL IS UP FOR DEBATE. Why mention the former as a definite, when the latter is still possible?
Exactly!! And that's why a 'remake', as someone has suggested here, would be absolute trash, focusing on his alleged sexual preferences rather than his achievements!!!
He was an archaeologist,a romantic intellectual and the British government's man in the eyes of those who believed him and the promises and commitments he made to them...Unfortunately,it was all canceled with the stroke of a pen by the Sykes-Picot agreement,and he could do little to protest,so he punished himself by writing...Some fabricated rape and torture fantasies woven into the narrative,is a classic form of psychological self catharsis,along with a change of his name,and joining the Air Force instead!... It was in fact,due to an American Journalist,Lowell Thomas,that the romanticized myth of Lawrence of Arabia was created, then made into a movie,with an unforgettable sound track for good measure,by Maurice Jarre. Things were actually much simpler...A tortured, perhaps homosexual soul with a morbid fear and loathing of being touched,didn't help,neither did his short physical stature,but a brilliant mind and with a flair for foreign and especially oriental languages and dialects,Arabic,Greek,and many others too...Lost much too soon,too early,while pursuing another passion of his...Speed!...R.I.P. T.E. Lawrence...you,have done enough!...
“Tragic truth” what a sensationalist title for facts that are easily obtained in biographies! BTW the famous blockbuster film by David Lean simplifies the events incredibly, as well as misrepresents major political and cultural figures important to him, including Prince Faisal, who was younger and less aloof that played by Alex Guinness. This RUclips narrative makes a big deal of quoting magazine commentaries - pretty lazy effort.
It is badly covered. He joined the Army in the Tank Corps, had to leave and then joined the RAF (having been helped to do so by contacts in London), later developing Air Sea Rescue launches.
Lawrence was a fine man. . My father, who lived in those times and was also accepted by the Bedouine, knew him and and respected him. The film was and remains a classic.No need to remake. Harping on about his sexuality is disrespectful and you have no right to take away his accomplishments. As my dad said " the poor devil was buggered by the Turks" a horrible and emotionally damaging event as is any rape and Lawrence was raped by more than one of them. My dad believed that this was perhaps why he crashed that bike .Have some respect for a man who was certainly a man of his time but was heroic, courageous and a man of action.
The two boys mentioned at 10:42 ( approx) were spectators on a near by hill, they heard the approaching Motorcycle+ sidecar, they said in witness testimony that a big black saloon coming the other way had caught the bike a glancing blow & caused the crash, the car did not stop but carried on !.( smoking gun) Their testimony was refuted & declared a little boys story?( smoking gun) Further Lawerence, was left on a camp bed in a nearby school, when he should reasonably have gone to hospital.. ( smoking gun) { the cover was; deemed to badly injured to move } He lasted longer than they expected, without proper medical care..a very Dark stain on Dark forces at work.
This is not true. In fact, one of the boys involved - Frank Fletcher - stated many, many times, including at the inquest, that there was no black car. He also wrote a letter, after watching the film *_Lawrence of Arabia_*, to refute the film's version and to attest to this. The letter was given to the Wareham Town Museum by Fletcher's brother in 2006. His brother, Joe Fletcher, reiterated the fact that Frank called the story of the black vehicle "nonsense". Frank said that there was no one present at the scene but himself and the other boy, and that Lawrence had been trying to avoid them when he crashed. End of story. What you state is the precise opposite of what actually transpired, and of the boys' testimony.
@@fuzzamajumula You are just repeating what you have read, therefore do not really know...the true situation was much, much deeper & involved, why do you think he kept changing his name.?
Yes, I have read many books about TE,and "A Prince of our ...."written by John.Mack is the BEST book writen about TE. Mike Yriart From.San Andres Great Buenos Aires Argentina
Astronomical Eclips in Warfare: July 05, 1917 Thomas Edward Lawrence aka "Lawrence of Arabia" used his knowledge of astronomical phenomena to carry out a daring night raid under the darkness of a total eclipse of the Moon. While the defenders were preoccupied by the Lunar eclipse, T.E. Lawrence and his troop of fifty Bedouin successfully pressed home their attack on the city of Aqaba - Jordan. No wonder why he became such an icon of leadership.
I used to work near the Tank Depot called Bovington and passed Clouds Hill everyday on the same road on my motorbike and because I knew its past,was always very careful.Although the road is all tar now,in his day in the the middle it was a gravel track.Its no surprise that he had an accident on it.David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia was and is my favourite film.Its no surprise that the Toxic UK/US Media hounded him into an early grave,nothing much has changed,its still Toxic now.
Well anyone who came out and supported the rights of minority factions in a struggle for land and self survival would of course be hounded by the war hawks of England and the USA. Just make a stand in public in support for the struggling Palestinians today and see how long it take for the Jewish "onslaught" to begin ruining your career and name, your wives career and name, your children's name and future careers. your dogs name etc.
How many mistakes can one program on Lawrence make? He never joined the RAF as a pilot; the crash that killed him was not high speed, the bike was in second gear when recovered which would have limited its top speed to about 40 mph; he was not only a map maker in Cairo during the early part of the war but was producing a news sheet on Arab notables and tribes for circulation through the army; just prior to the war he was a civilian in an army party tasked with mapping Sinai Peninsular; Lowell Thomas spent a day and half with Lawrence and was not present at any of the military engagements. To say that someone has modern blood on his hands for using explosives on a railway in 1917 and who died in 1935 is pure hyperbole. Incidentally, it was one of the British troops who accompanied Lawrence who developed the improvised charges, not Lawrence.
3 inaccuracies : The cottage shown at 0:58 is at Cloud's Hill in Dorset, where Lawrence lived in his 30s , NOT the separate apartment he had behind his family home in Oxford. The Arab revolt initiated in 1916 , not 1919. Lawrence served in the RAF as an Aircraftsman(ground crew) and also on rescue boats. He was never a pilot.
It is ridiculous that modern docos and writers try to find a fault in such brave and noble adventurers like Lawrence of Arabia. They fought in harsh desert lands, without water or food, so, they were brave and amazing, period..!!
AS THE DARKNESS FALLS, AND ARABIA CALLS ONE MAN SPREADS HIS WINGS AS THE BATTLE BEGINS MAY THE LAND LAY CLAIM ON TO LAWRENCE NAME SEVEN PILLARS OS WISDOM LIGHTS THE FLAME
I first discovered Lawerence in my seventies after having heard of him briefly at junior school,I picked up a biography of him on holiday in 2003 on second hand book stand,I have been enthralled ever since.
He was a very skilled motor cycle rider. I have some doubt that the account of his death is accurate. He may have been killed by the Foreign Office for his criticism of British Middle East policy.
There is discussion about a large black car seen in the area at the time, which appeared in early reports and vanished. Also, that the story of the two boys is a smokescreen
@@ceciliag2929 The inquiry into Lawrence's death was convened in a military barracks by Secret Services, and the soldier who saw the black car and was willing to testify about it died, suddenly and mysteriously. It was not just TEL who was bumped off.
A large black car, eh? A yewish car, surely? Foolish fools. When interested in a good story well told read michael ashers lawrence biography. A life that does not need any mysteries added.
I read an article in THE BARNES REVIEW that argued in favor of the idea that he was assassinated because he favored a peaceful relationship with Germany. I can't remember the details, but I found it pretty convincing.
He didn't do that.He was just started to hanging out with top officials of the Fascist Party in the UK and believe to had met with Hitler already at some point before his retirement.That his why his detection to the Nazi side would be a huge loss of the British asset.And he was going to be appointed by his dear old friend as the head of the SIS
I doubt it, as he was secretly actively involved with the government in developing the defences of the UK against Germany. They knew in 1935 that war was likely, and had already begun to build up our Anti Aircraft defences (the Spanish Civil War also added to that likelihood), even before Chamberlain went to Hitler and got some toilet paper agreement.
@@freemarketjoe9869 who is "our"??? Whytes? If so, it's because everything you put on a pedestal depicts you people as the savior or the hero in one way or another. It's call revisionist history.
I HAD TOO chk this out - as this movie haunted me as a Kid...beings we Only had ONE tv ( it was the 60s/70's with NO Remote ) we kids were dads remote control...My DAD MADE US watch this movie every time it was on......so DAMMIT I'm gonna Finally find out the truth...I must have seen LOA 30+ times... Im 60 now
I LOVE this movie. My parents would always see a movie before letting us go ( being 68 myself, you probably understand this) they saw it as too deep for us to understand, so i found it in my 40's. Ive seen it enough i can recite most of the dialogue. On the remote-- my sister would always say she couldnt wait to have kids so that she would never have to do anything again. Lol
I've only s een this twice. First time I was about 12, and it was Dad's movie night, again in my thirties (58, now). Geek that I am, what I remember about this movie is the magnificence of it. The sets, costumes, the horses, even! Then, there's the mechanics of it all; putting all of it together to unleash some awesome cinematography. Especially since, "in those days", CGI wasn't around, and most of it was filmed on the back lot of the studio. About the only place in America you can find sand dunes like.those in the Sahara is Death Valley. Since it is a National Monument, I don't think they could film there.They may have filmed on location. I don't know. Time to watch it again, this time, I'll pay attention to the story...and read the end credits! ✌💖😺 P.S. the 'ask Google' option would be faster, true. But not nearly as much fun!
@@PhoenixLyon it had already been one of my favorite movies when they re-released it into theaters in 2002 for the 40th anniversary. I'm telling you it was something else just unbelievably beautiful cinematography wondrous
The quote from his memoir isn't racist at all it's just the way you're interpreting it, he said he'd rather deal with the average everyday Arab versus one who has had his brain twisted by the Europeans, it seems like more of a condemnation of europeans. It really bothers me when these quasi-historical shows just end up being hit pieces.
And I know what he meant. Thanks to Lawrence, I went to the Middle East alot, specially Syria. At the beginning the country was pretty much in a shell, no internet, no Coca Cola, no Western food like pizza, and alcohol only in the christian areas. I fell in love with the people. The last time I was there was during the beginning of the revolt. The country has been "developped" by the new president ( and China), internet everywhere, and people treated me differently, spoke more vulgar ( thanks to the internet) and were generally less unique. Sad. And like Lawrence, I felt most at home with the beduins
This video is nonsense. He was a friend of the Arab people. The Arabs knew that it would be easier to expel the British than than the Turks. After the war he and Gertrude Bell helped the Arabs. The British themselves expelled the Vichy French from the Middle East. He designed rescue boats for the RAF pilots. Anybody knows motorcycles are dangerous.
He helped develop the boats for that purpose, testing many himself and doing much engineering involved in them. Had they been available earlier in the war (UK government always too darned slow to do something sensible and logical as usual) over 240 airmen could have been rescued and not lost in the sea , a tragedy which could have been avoided.
Yes and in it he mentions his love for a woman, he asked to marry and was rejected, a great book. He is also mentioned in a book about the RAF Air Sea Rescue service
When I worked at Bovington I used to pass Clouds Hill every morning on the same road Lawrence came off his motorbike.I was very conscious of this and took extra care especially when Tank Transports were using the same road.If it wasn’t for the UK Media hounding him he could of faded away. Nothing much has changed on that score,the British Media are anathema to any decent person,including Heroes like Lawrence,like it or not he was one.
An english colonialist and an opportunist who helped arabs backstab "oppressive" ottomans. I personally dont blame him, if someone read a single paper on arab history, he would see that it's what they do since the dawn of time
NEVER subject yourself to watching: "A Dangerous Man" which is Ralph Fiennes acting like Peter O'toole in his portrayal of T.E. Lawrence. O'toole never met Lawrence and went on instinct for this role, but Fiennes uses all of O'toole's mannerisms and speech patterns and this sad, ridiculous charade just pounds the image to death.
I visited his home in dorset i think it was in the late 80s a lovely elderly lady was looking after it and she told me that she met him when she was about 7 yreas old i went upstaires and was amazed to see his belongings all around inc his gramaphone!!--it was a very small area to see and i felt very honoured to be there, the motor bike that he was killed on are worth a lot of money today maybe £250,000, also its worth visiting his grave and the church not far away, the small church has absolutley stunning glass windows all in a lovely out of the way area !-----not far from durdle door and the sea.
I visited Clouds Hill in 1968 and met a very nice refined lady who was in her 70s she said she lived across the road from Lawrence and used to take care of the small house,
I'm 64 and remember as a boy in 1971 a television program hosted by a man " LOWE THOMAS" who met and interviewed Lawrence during that war. So people who fought with Lawrence were still living in the 1970's .
He did not support Arabs against Ottoman Empire but the fact is he single handedly with the huge financial and arms support, divided Arabs and instigated them against Turks (Ottoman Empire). He continued to provide support to the rebel groups he created, to defeat Ottoman Empire. The reason wasn't any atrocities by Ottoman, they were the most just rulers who never disturbed the social and religious cultures of the places they ruled. Lawrence's biggest motivation was revenge against Ottoman accounting for all the wars where Ottoman defeated Crusaders badly.
Hmm, not really... It was a great movie but Tom was around 5'.4" and Peter O'Toole was about 6'.2" and a complete opposite of T.E. Lawrence, certainly in real life where he never drank/ smoked whereas Peter drank and smoked as if it was air. They wanted to make a film a few years before T.E.'s death with Leslie Howard playing the lead but he was appalled and appealed hard not to have a movie made.He certainly would of disapproved with the movie in 1962..A private man made more so with what he encountered during his time at war and his life throughout.
If you compare the photos of Mr Lawrence with those of Mr O’Toole, you will clearly see there is no resemblance. Also Mr Lawrence was a very short man and Mr O’Toole very tall.
I’ve read a lot of books from the early 20th century and they all seem to have a very standardized almost stuffy writing style. However, not 7 pillars of wisdom. TE Lawrence writes with a lot of emotion personality that I think is still almost unparalleled to find in an autobiographical work. If you’re looking for a specific example, read all of book 10. It is genuinely the highlight of the book for me.
I am watching the Oscar winning Best Picture film, Lawrence of Arabia, for the umpteenth time, and it doesn't bore me as a four hour epic on the contributions of British officer T. E. Lawrence to the betterment of the Arab world against the Turks. As far as the man was concerned, his complex life is secondary to me. What was important was his attempt to make a strong difference in the lives of Middle Easterners and their quest for freedom. At least he was a beneficiary of it.
I loved the grandeur and epic portrayal of the land, places and people of the movie. Unfortunately it soured and I have no longer been able to watch it when I learned that our Australian Light Horse soldiers were written out of the war history of the time by Lawrence. I think it's thoughtless disrespect to deny those who sacrifice and fight for the war effort to be forgotten regardless of idealism. So with my heart still full I have written this prose for them about this tragedy. And it goes for all those forgotten. *The 4th Australian Light Horse* _The sands of loneliness_ _Traversed on the blooded and steady Waler horse_ _Head well up and girth cinched tight_ _The proud young Australian bushman sits_ _Answering the call to arms and duty_ _Flare and adventure still bright and keen_ _In the hearts of our wise young men_ _A brigade of bright young larrikiins_ _How lightly we spend the spirit_ _Of the hero who falls_ _Mocking him with our forgetfulness_ _Lest we forget_ (CJ Whitney copyright 2020)
Be'ersheva is not forgotten, Masada / Dead Sea and Beersheba is on my list of most see places. 4th Australian light Horse, bloody brave lads 👍....by the way! I'm English, proud of the Anzacs heroism.
@@machtschnell7452 Actually I think I know what you mean. It was too much adulation or hero worship. Perhaps, you're right, but that is how we like to remember our Australian soldiers. In the best possible light of our hearts and minds.
Hang on a tick... was this video just a ruse, an elaborate commercial for the suicide hotline?! j/k I love T.E. Lawrence, and Lawrence of Arabia is my favourite film. Great vid!
It seems the rules have changed. Whenever the possibility of suicide is mentioned . The sponsor has to give the information for a suicide hotline/prevention. Hope it has helped someone.
Left out the incredible story of Lawrence losing in a train station the original manuscript for Seven Pillars, and then re-writing the whole long book.
Lawrence reported that he was raped, when he was captured by the Turks--the officer ordered, "Show him everything"---who didn't know that he was British, but, as I recollect, thought he was Ossetian, instead. (Ossetia is in southern Russia, between Georgia and Chechnya.
A couple of observations: 1) There's irony in a man who supported guerrilla warfare against Britain, (Irishman Peter O'Toole), portraying a British exponent of guerrilla warfare against Turks. 2) It's amazing how many homosexual heroes the British public school system produced back then - it's almost as if a "repressed male" lifestyle was part of elite British culture. Lawrence was certainly an interesting character.
A friend told me many years ago that he knew someone that claimed that he discovered Lawrence's motorbike rusting away chained to a rail at the cottage.
@@bobdownes162 The exhibit did say that it was a bike he died on. He owned maybe five of them and was friends with George Brough. I was at a classic car show in Michigan a few years ago and the best motorcycle was a 1938 Brough Superior SS-100. I imagine Lawrence would have owned one had he lived. It was a beautiful bike in mint condition whereas the one in the museum looked like it was used regularly.
He might have found one of the previous ones he owned. Lawrence bought eight Brough Superior SS-100 and was a friend of the manufacturer. He died on number seven and the eighth one which was due to be delivered to him was awaiting a payment. It's now at the Tank Museum at Bovington. As far as I am aware, after TEL died, the seventh motorcycle was repaired. I don't know where it ended up, but it is suggested that it is in the Imperial War Museum, though I've never seen it. The Brough Superior SS-100 you saw might have been one of the earlier ones which were sold to other buyers.
I hate how Lawrence of Arabia seems like a hero. The true is he was a con man who betrayed his men and looked down on them thinking he is more superior. What a shame
@@machtschnell7452 He exploited the hospitality of the Arabs to his own advantage. He used to talk about them so bad (Sometimes he said good things, but not totally good either). I will give some examples of what he said : In a letter of July 1918 : “the Arab appealed to my imagination. It is the old, old civilisation, which has refined itself clear of the household gods, and half the trappings which ours hastens to assume. The gospel of bareness in materials is a good one, and it involves apparently a sort of moral bareness too.” “They think for the moment, and endeavour to slip through life without turning corners or climbing hills. In part it is a mental and moral fatigue, a race trained out, and to avoid difficulties they have to jettison so much that we think honourable and grave.” Yet in his 1921 introduction to Doughty’s Arabia Deserta, Lawrence wrote of contemporary Arabs: “They are a limited narrow-minded people whose inert intellects lie incuriously fallow. Their imaginations are keen but not creative. There is so little Arab art to-day in Asia that they can nearly be said to have no art… . They show no longing for great industry, no organisations of mind or body anywhere. They invent no systems of philosophy or mythologies.” In June 1911, while digging at Carchemish, he exclaimed: “The perfectly hopeless vulgarity of the half-Europeanised Arab is appalling. Better a thousand times the Arab untouched.” Writing from Cairo the following year, he lamented that “the Egyptian people are horribly ugly, very dirty, dull, low-spirited, without any of the vigour or the self-confident independence of our [Carchemish] men. Besides, the [religious] fanaticism of the country is deplorable, and the treatment of the women most un European” Also he said : “Arabs could be swung on an idea as on a cord; for the unpledged allegiance of their minds made them obedient servants… . They were incorrigibly children of the idea, feckless and colour-blind, to whom body and spirit were for ever and inevitably opposed. Their mind was strange and dark, full of depressions and exaltations, lacking in rule, but with more of ardour and more fertile of belief than any other in the world.” He described Arabs as : “one of the shallowest and least patient races of mankind” Again : “I was tired to death of these Arabs; petty incarnate Semites who attained heights and depths beyond our reach though not beyond our sight. They realized our absolute in their unrestrained capacity for good and evil.” You can see that he was nearly a schizophrenic person; he had bipolar opinions about the same matters. When he talked about “Feisal”, an Arab leader from Mecca, he first described him as : “very tall and pillar-like … framed between the uprights of a black doorway… . His hands were crossed in front of him on his dagger.” “Sherif Feisal (3rd Son of Sherif of Mecca), to whom I am attached, is about 31, tall, slight, lively, well-educated. He is charming towards me, and we get on perfectly together. He has a tremendous reputation in the Arab world as a leader of men, and a diplomat. His strong point is handling tribes: he has the manner that gets on perfectly with tribesmen, and they all love him. At present he is governing a patch of country about as large as Wales, and doing it efficiently.” “had in him something of the prophetic fire, and his eloquence, enthusiasm, and knowledge soon gave him a personal ascendancy over all the tribes in contact with him.” But then he described him in a whole different way : “Feisal was less than weak, he was empty, only a great pipe waiting for a wind” “Feisal, a timid man, hated running into danger, yet would do anything for Arab freedom-his one passion, purely unselfish. Here, as later in Iraq, it made him face things and risks he hated. At original attack on Medina he had nerved himself to put on a bold front, and the effort had shaken him so that he never courted danger in battle again.” Then when writing his book, he described him as : “tall, graceful and vigorous, with the most beautiful gait, and a royal dignity of head and shoulders… . Appetite and physical weakness were mated in him, with the spur of courage. His personal charm, his imprudence, the pathetic hint of frailty as the sole reserve of this proud character made him the idol of his followers.” Lawrence also praises Feisal as a judge and diplomat, and for his ability to attract and unite the tribal armies, which he raised for a particular campaign as he passed through their territory and then left behind as he advanced northward. By the time the heterogeneous tribes reached Damascus, only a few hundred Hejazis “i.e. Saudis” remained in the army, and they had in their ranks “hundreds of deadly enemies, their feuds barely suspended by Feisal’s peace.” In conclusion, i don’t think he was/is worthy of any respect. He manipulated ignorant and naive people to reach his goals. Serving his own country, and ruining Arab countries.
Very nice and sweet, heartfelt ending to this. Yes, I've read the books, seen the film and had my suspicions. I did not know about the RAF and Tank Corps episodes. That final letter IS very telling.
@@lawrenceofarabia7474 There were no nations, because it was all ruled by Ottoman Empire and Lawrence backed by his British government worked hard to create divisions and protests against Ottomans.
What's the most interesting thing you learned about Lawrence of Arabia?
From the pictures, I learned, when TE Lawrence was in the air force under the name "Ross", he pioneered both jets and helicopters!
That he was a POS.
im still alive
He helped the rise of the wahabis
His unusuality.
"... he also, undeniably, has modern blood in his hand". The biggest anacronical bullshit someone could ever say.
For real.
It’s true. He does. Ask any Arab and they will agree. He’s a traitor.
@@SheikhShakshook A traitor to whom?
The idea that Lawrence committed suicide by the idiotic method of purposely crashing his motorcycle is absurd. Anyone with half a brain would be afraid of crippling himself instead of dying.
I think he took high risks on purpose. But like you said it does not seem “thought through all the way”
I have a friend who tried to kill himself by driving his car into a tree at 160ks. He lives, can walk but will never run again. Constant pain from the screws that hold his pelvis together. He is glad to be alive though. Driving a car into a tree, at speed, is a common way for people to kill themselves.
Or he was so unconcerned with his own life that he didn't care about crippling himself.
Grunge has a tendency to put out bad quality stuff.
He is also responsible for the development of motorcycle helmet and the use of it to prevent severe head injuries as he died of the same.
Edit: When I said he is responsible for developing helmets I meant his fatal accident. Someone said incorrect without understanding. Thank you.
Interesting, as he died in a motorcycle crash.
Thank you for imparting this knowledge. I never knew about this.
At first I was sceptical, so I google searched it. And indeed it is true.
Sounds like a psychopath.
@@eugenedoyle9960 What?
@@yunarukami14 he was a psychopath.
I saw the movie in 1962 when I was 7 years old. He became my hero gave me the call to adventure. Joined the French Foreign Legion in the seventies. Went to the desert in Africa and lived the dream ! Thank you Lawrence for that call to adventure and following the seldom followed path.
Whoo I wanted to join the legion ,but life and love got in the way,respect to you,
Now in my 60 plus I still manage to fit in some adventures
I saw a documentary about the French Foreign Legion last year, and the type of training these guys go through. It's no joke!
Wow! Good on you following your dreams. You must have great stories! Much respect mate!
@Saida Agourram Never killed or harmed woman and children when I was there. Can't say the same for others. Nor where we ever asked to.
War is war!!! No body wins.
T.E. was a highly intelligent, troubled soul who lived a life of extremes, dreams and aspirations until his untimely death that has unanswered questions still, but suicide by motorcycle crash is nonsense, despite his wish to die, (as many people do without acting upon it.) Reading his books and his words give a glimpse into his soul, a man of principle, tormented by inner doubts , but a MAN of spiritual stature. Let him R.I.P. please.
Agreed. I doubt he tried to kill himself by motorcycle. But he probably pushed the edge a lot knowing what a likely outcome COULD be and not being scared of it, and perhaps welcoming it.
Excellent comment and spot on
The fact that this is the man who made muslims fight muslims
I guess everyone has to face karma
@@AntiBtsArmy18The fighting between muslims isn't attributed to one man. Just like the assasstionation of the archduke didn't start the ww 1. People have been fighting eachother ever since we were apes.
@rabbit4111 Maybe he thought himself invincible and could CHEAT death.
Hugh Cairns was a neurologist in 1935 who treated Lawrence and later developed early versions of crash helmets. You might say that there is a direct line from Lowell Thomas through Lawrence and Cairns to the motorcycle and other helmets we use today.
"Modern blood on his hands...", What a crazy piece of logic! As if NOBODY else would have invented IEDs (aka boobytraps).
I thought so also.
As soon as I heard this my immediate thought was that the problem with our society today is that our ancestors are responsible for all that is bad and that we have no control nor responsibility for our own actions. It's like saying that the person who invented the wheel is responsible for all car accidents.
Somehow it's his fault rather than the people who plant them today
Soft Western Academics, Leftists and Neo-Cosmopolitans view guilt, shame, and blaming as some sort of religious tenet. There's no nuance in their dogma and so the same way they hate figures who are hundreds of years old like Christopher Columbus for not being modern and "woke" is the same reason they need some way to accuse him of at least some crime that goes against the modern Bolzhevik schizophrenia. And add to that Lawrence is a white guy from England, so automatically his "privilege" rank is too high. They gotta knock him down a few pegs.
Lol you say this but then turn around and say Marie Curie is responsible for nuclear weapons
"Undeniably has modern blood on his hands" To suggest Lawrence's use of guerilla warfare was the first and therfeore all modern warfare using these tactics is because of him is ridiculous. Im sure through the annuals of history will show any small force against an over welmingly large one can only survive using those tactics. I think the modern day Arabs would have worked that out themselves !!!
It is not what they mean. Lawrence broke new ground in guerilla tactics by transitioning back and forth from set-piece positional battles to guerilla tactics. He brought armored cars into combat. Solved complex logistical problems. He made maps, mastered different languages. and navigated through the cultural difficulties with different Arab tribes. He was brilliant and important.
@@rup54Exactly! The United States has done similar things--arming and training guerilla fighters in the Middle East and Central America, only to have those same tactics and weapons turn against us in future conflicts!
I’ve read The Seven Pillars of Wisdom. I was interested in it as my grandfather used to run guns and gold for Lawrence.
That is worthy of more stories to tell.
He had many. He was in the Royal Navy during Wwi
Wow.
maybe you should do a memoir book, about the stories you still remember so it can be remembered forever, maybe by amazonbooks or something
History should be told truthfully, but never erased or forgotten.
Learning about T.E. Lawrence introduced me to Gertrude Bell.
Writer, archaeologist and political officer for the British Empire.
Who was responsible for establishing the Iraq Museum and was immensely influential in forming the borders of Iraq.
Recent studies from former secret documents and archive sources - her journals and letters and accounts about her from relevant contemporaries, including Lawrence ( who knew her personally ) have provided significant proof her contributions had a greater impact then even Lawrence.
She spent her life studying the languages and cultures of the Middle East, integrating with the natives on a far more intimate level than Lawrence.
No exciting battles or dramatic conflicts.
She achieved her goals through diplomatic means.
She has been called " The Secret Kingmaker".
Yet until recent years, she has been historically ignored.
In 2015 a film, "The Queen of the Desert" was released.
Nicole Kidman plays Gertrude.
2017 a documentary, "Letters from Baghdad" gives a fascinating account of this woman's life.
P.S. 7:05
In the photograph, Gertrude can be seen standing in the far left.
I was also fascinated by this doughty woman. I believe she introduced marigolds to the desert!
In 'A Dangerous Man - Lawrence After Arabia' Gertrude Bell is portrayed undermining Prince Faisal to the British delegation when she exposes the fact that Faisal not only spoke English, but also understood all the nuances of the language. In truth Bell was working hard with Lawrence to ensure that a stable Middle East came out of the Peace Conference with Faisal as King of Iraq.
@@TheGeneralWorldofTanksReplays But she did favour Ibn Saud over the Hashemites.
@@annamack5823 Which Kingdom has been the most stable since then?
@@WOTArtyNoobs Jordan, which also manages not to abuse its people.
In 1960 a play ran in London's West end called " Ross ". It was written by Terence Rattigan and concerned Lawrence's time in the RAF. The eponymous hero was played by Alec Guinness, who starred in the movie " Lawrence of Arabia ".
That was Faisel, Lawrence was played by Peter OToole
His father was an Englishman whose family owned land in Ireland, he wasn’t an Irish man. They’re known as Anglo-Irish noblemen.
Correct. British history is filled with these people - especially in the military. Also, many famous Irishmen were from the Protestant English upper middle classes or Aristocracy. As property owners in Ireland, they couldn't be soft. Collecting rent and running an estate in C19th Ireland required responsibility, authority, and toughness. Many were mavericks and talented and desired justice for Roman Catholics. Others could be bullies.
@@rup54I’m open to correction, but have previously understood that many people involved in the Irish Nationalist Movement in the C19th were from the Anglo-Irish Protestant Ascendency.
@@tomcooper-hayes6579 Yes. Some very important leaders were Protestants - probably not the landowners. It is complex. The history of the British Isles is fascinating. Sadly, in the past, Roman Catholics frequently wrote Republican Irish nationalist Protestants out of their history.
the so-called Irish Ascendancy.
@@rup54 The history of the Irish Isles is fascinating too.
I live near where he crashed his bike we have it in a museum down here it's really mad to think he roamed the same roads I do
I still do ;)
@@lawrenceofarabia7474 lmao
Wareham dorset. Is the crash site still marked ?
Cool.
@@Griffin24712978 why? are you so ghoulish that you want to visit the site of someone's death?
Lawrence left the British Army and then re enlisted in the RFC (RAF) as an Airman, in the 70's I was Based at an RAF Training camp at RAF Cranwell in Lincolnshire England, I was working in an Old Building At Cranwell which was an earlier Concrete Hut, Circa 1920 and came apone an old inscription scribed on a bunk wall..."Lawrence of Arabia" to this day I can see him....
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“The Seven Pillars of Wisdom” by him is a must read
Absolutely. His literacy is unparalleled.
Must read for what purpose? What does it add to the reader?
@@kasadam85 a better picture of the man and his journey.
He didn't invent the use of guerilla warfare in the middle east, he just adapted it to the modern battlefields of the first world war, in the middle east.
nope i invented it
@@lawrenceofarabia7474 lolz
The American colonists were really great at guerilla warfare, hitting superior British forces and running. If the South fought like that they might have won the civil war, instead of squaring off in open European style battles, wasting valuable, irreplaceable men to exposed fire.
The one single, monumental part of Lawrence's true life story, the part that the iconic movie completely ignores... OIL -the reason for everything in the Middle East. Lawrence was trained as an MI6 intelligence agent to make sure the British grabbed it from the Arabs....
As to his death... it is highly suspected, and indeed substantial proof that he was assassinated under direct orders from his very close 'friend' Winston Churchill.
Lawrence was very outspoken and knew a lot of government secrets, including Churchill's personal dark dealings...
My intense research of him showed that Lawrence quickly realized that on the wide, flat deserts he had to cross with heavy loads of explosives and weapons, an automobile could cover ground much faster than a camel.
But these weren’t just any automobiles. Lawrence’s desert raiding machines comprised nine Rolls Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost motorcars, including a personal vehicle he named the Blue Mist.
Churchill knew that Lawrence was an adventurer and that he loved his Brough Superior motorcycles more than probably his typewriter. The experience Lawrence underwent at the hands of the Turks made it impossible for him to have any sensible relationship. His love was transferred to his motorcycle, his cottage and typewriter.
The David Lean movie starts with Lawrence's motorcycle'accident'...
Year’s later evidence relating to the crash that had hitherto been suppressed began to surface. Revealed were the vital clues to a mysterious black car that had been deliberately ignored at Lawrence's strange 'official' inquest, at the insistence of MI5 the British secret service.
Equally controversially the investigation into Lawrence's death was not conducted by the local police, the normal procedure, but by MI5 officials who surrounded Bovington military camp where the inquest was held. One can only wonder why such extreme measures were taken for what was claimed to be a simple accident. What was there to hide? Nevertheless, one serving soldier stationed at Bovington did claim to have seen a black car at the scene of the accident. This soldier, Private Catchpole, was so unnerved by his cross examination - or subsequent events - that he conveniently shot himself.
Not the kind of true history that the likes of Wikipedia and the 'History' Channel peddles is it?
Shock horror, Winston Churchill was a two faced back stabbing lying bastard.
Who’d of thunk it?
Also heard a theory that Lawrence was silenced because he was about to make pro-Irish nationalist sentiments.
@@stormywindmill Quite possibly... As I said, Lawrence was very outspoken and Churchill was corrupt as they come, always in debt and easy to buyoff. The IRA from the beginning was run as controlled opposition by MI5, the genuine IRA fighters could never understand why the were always being betrayed. Churchill is directly linked to so many monstrous betrayals, and some of that was partially portrayed in the PLEAKY BLINDERS tv series.
Interesting alternative perspective in places undermining its trustworthiness by minor and major errors e.g. MI5 is not «Britain’s secret service», but the internal security service (includes Northern Ireland) reporting to the Home Office. «MI6» is the Secret Intelligence Service (an external intelligence agency roughly equivalent to the CIA, reporting to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office).
@@garthlyon You're right...a Rose by any other name.
It's reported that over 90% of the world's terrorist events are created by the CIA/MOSSAD/MI5/6...These so called 'intelligence' agencies DO NOT work for the good of the people, the country or the flag, and never have done...They work, they serve only the BANK$TER$, Industrialists and the Ruling Elite.
It's funny, all the top British authors from H.G. Wells, Ian Fleming, Roald Dahl, John le Carre, Graham Greene, Frederick Forsythe, Somerset Maugham and on and on...let alone America's Ernest Hemmingway and many others, ALL give us a false and totally socially engineered perspective of history! -Thankyou for your COMMENT.
"I wrote my will across the stars"
WOW!
Powerful words
and mid the stars inscribe belindas name
look it up. it will do you good.
“Nothing is written.”
He packed more into his short life than a hundred of us could dare to dream. It didn't mention the cycling tour of France as a teenager, the trip to the Byzantine castles before his 21st birthday. That he saved the life of German archeological crew also at Carchemish during a revolt. The 4 years spent there he established schooling and healthcare for all the kids, not just one. Some of the maps he worked on included the coast of Gallipoli that were used in the landing by the Australian and New Zealand Corps. The whole family would have been interesting people. From other books I've read, his older brother and their mother were among the first missionaries to China in the 1920's
Well said
It would, indeed, be nice if we all had been born with such money and opportunity to achieve what he did.
@@fuzzamajumula True!!
Coincidentally on the TV today the commentator who is English did indeed mention him taking part in the Tour de France.
@@fuzzamajumula LOL- Many people are born with money and do squat with it. He was a unique man period. What have YOU done with WHAT you HAVE???
- My uncle during the U.S.'s GREAT Depression (from 1929 - 1941) (no safety nets such as welfare, SNAP et al) survived as many did by giving to others. They had a dairy farm and would leave milk at neighbors who in turn left veggies so on at their door steps.
- I might add many of his generation (my fathers) fought in WWII to defend the US. and her freedoms.
- Later HE sold "fire extinguishers" door to door.
- And later sold real estate becominig a Millionaire. All of his children get SQUAT and work for him or others.
- Regardless of wealth MANY create opportunities and go from there.
- Some starting in Poverty to become immensely wealthy (Billionaires). The common theme was they WORKED hard to do so, by giving products or ideas to OTHERS who benefitted.
- Oprah Winfrey (for one) no water, electricity, single mom
- Howard Schult (Poor - started Starbucks)
- Ralph Lauren (I used to work in NYC's fashion district long ago)
"So poor we had hand me down clothes" - learned how to sew to create his own.
- Larry Ellison (worth $158.9 Billion) (poor S. Side of Chicago)
- Self MADE Billionaire - businessman and investor - HOME DEPOT!
Blaming Lawrence for modern use of IEDs and the like in the Middle East is misguided and cynical.
Lawrence was brought up in Victorian times so is difficult to understand with today's thinking. He was essentially an incredibly kind, humble and private man from what I can gather from his Hundreds of letters written while in RAF College Cranwell where I work. He carried alot of guilt and damage and would have recieved support today. The truth regarding his death was due to be released in 2020. He is fondly remembered in Lincs and RAF College Cranwell Library has a Lawrence room and there is a Lawrence club on site.
He was a great man. One theory is that given he sought to avoid war with Hitler, and wanted to meet with Hitler, certain government ppl knocked him off in his accident
@@mikeno8192 heard that one, understand that the records from national archives ref his death were due to be released last year?
@Clive thank you. This is the picture I have of him, too. I wish I could read those hundreds of letters
@@juttamaier2111 His letters from Lincolnshire are available in a book but not sure if it's widely available. We have a copy in College Hall Library RAF Cranwell. Warm greetings
I know this is an old comment but was his death details released? I cant find anything about it online, but I would like to read further.
Lawrence of Arabia would be thrown in jail nowadays. He helped and worked with Syrians, Persians ( Iran ) and Arabs to defeat Turkey ( Now a NATO country ) The Brittish have SAS training the Turks. America has Green Berets and SEALS stationed in Turkey on a full time basis. My how things have changed.
Oh wow you don’t say
What I find silly is that you assume that we all learn by watching movies. Come on! Some of us actually read you know: Lawrence was an archaeologist, an astute historian and linguist, and his book Seven Pillars of Wisdom, is a classic which you should read. The MOVIE is just that: a movie!!!
His book on the seven pillars of wisdom also describes the Turkish genocide on the Armenians, and how the atheistic young Turcs wanted a pure Turkish bloodline, hating Armenians, Arabs, and everyone who was different. He also includes how the Arabs revolted on one occasion (before Lawrence was a leading figure), and the Turcs "having trained killing on the Armenians" raped the Arab women, cemented the men into ther house and lit them on fire, followed by killing every breathing person and animal in the city.
Lawrence, heaing all these things, was really supportive for the Arabs to become free from Turkish tiranny. He really believed that the British Empire would support their cause for the same noble reason. But what the Arabs warned him of, became true: Britain wasn't interested in freeing the Arabs, Christians and other minorities from Turkish annihilation, but was only interested in what their hands could take once power was destabilised in the region.
In short: the Young Turcs are still applauded in the West for being "Western", while the genocides are condemmed without naming the perpetrators. History proved the hypocrisy of British words and promises, and still proves the hypocrisy of Western standards. Democracy and freedom are what Western people think they spread, but outside Europe people only see the harsh political reality: the West does not want it for the rest of the world so it seems.
It is a difficult truth to live with.
The British made promises to both the Arabs and the Jews in the midst of WW1 to give one group independence and the other a home land. Despite thousands of arabs laying down their lives in the fight against the Ottoman Turks, however it was only to the Jews that the British promise was kept. So instead of gaining independence the British and the French through their emissaries George Picot and Mark Sykes divided up the middle east between themselves. Sadly this move paved the way for conflict in the region costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. And continues to this day. The English are a vile selfish self serving nation. Always have been always will be.
“Hypocrisy” would include commenters who expect the British to spend enormous amounts of blood and treasure without any consideration of their own national interest.
It might equally apply to commentators who disparage Laurence’s assessment of various Arab types or cultures as “racist” and “colonialist” without having experienced the effects of those cultures on the ground. There are plentiful accounts by British, Australian and New Zealand troops of Arabs stealing and murdering their ostensible allies , while passing intelligence report to their Turkish “enemies”.
In other words, the situation was as complicated as Lawrence himself .
If you looking someone to blame for current state of Middle east Lawrence one of them.This snake ofc villify Turkish and speak Arabs and Palestines for betray to Ottomans.So you can divide and conquer.There are 25 thousands ottoman soldiers killed by Arabs and England forces and after that Lawrence lied to Sheriff Husssein about giving british occupied lands.They give this lands to Jews.He create a century old blood and war cheografy by his own hands.If there is a hell that pos must be in deepest part.
You have got your cottages mixed up - Lawrence moved into a summerhouse in his parents garden. The cottage shown is "Clouds Hill" which Lawrence bought when he was much older - it is one mile north of Bovington Camp in Dorset and is where he was living when he died in a motorcycle accident
He showed the same cottage twice...two different occasions and times. Oh well.
Absolutely spot on
I was wondering about that... so much info given at speed. Clouds Hill very well-known: visited it as a literary pilgrimage.
Lived in Wool in 1983…a mile from Bovington Camp. Saw his cottage but it wasn’t open then.
Interesting. However, I am struck by the fact that on one hand the Narrator states that Lawrence was a HOMOSEXUAL, BUT THEN HE GOES ON TO STATE WHETHER HE WAS OR WAS ASEXUAL IS UP FOR DEBATE. Why mention the former as a definite, when the latter is still possible?
Exactly!! And that's why a 'remake', as someone has suggested here, would be absolute trash, focusing on his alleged sexual preferences rather than his achievements!!!
@@phoenixrising6245 I agree.
Stop spreading properganda he wasn't
@@terrorgaming459 they did the same with alexander the great
Yeah what a joke. They’ll take anything any type of affection and twist it.
He was an archaeologist,a romantic intellectual and the British government's man in the eyes of those who believed him and the promises and commitments he made to them...Unfortunately,it was all canceled with the stroke of a pen by the Sykes-Picot agreement,and he could do little to protest,so he punished himself by writing...Some fabricated rape and torture fantasies woven into the narrative,is a classic form of psychological self catharsis,along with a change of his name,and joining the Air Force instead!... It was in fact,due to an American Journalist,Lowell Thomas,that the romanticized myth of Lawrence of Arabia was created, then made into a movie,with an unforgettable sound track for good measure,by Maurice Jarre. Things were actually much simpler...A tortured, perhaps homosexual soul with a morbid fear and loathing of being touched,didn't help,neither did his short physical stature,but a brilliant mind and with a flair for foreign and especially oriental languages and dialects,Arabic,Greek,and many others too...Lost much too soon,too early,while pursuing another passion of his...Speed!...R.I.P. T.E. Lawrence...you,have done enough!...
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“Tragic truth” what a sensationalist title for facts that are easily obtained in biographies! BTW the famous blockbuster film by David Lean simplifies the events incredibly, as well as misrepresents major political and cultural figures important to him, including Prince Faisal, who was younger and less aloof that played by Alex Guinness. This RUclips narrative makes a big deal of quoting magazine commentaries - pretty lazy effort.
I remember my dad let me stay up past my bedtime to watch the movie.
What a treat!!!
"He now joined the royal air force in the tank core" that dont sound right
It is badly covered. He joined the Army in the Tank Corps, had to leave and then joined the RAF (having been helped to do so by contacts in London), later developing Air Sea Rescue launches.
@@robinloxley205 in the tank corps as John Ross
Lawrence was a fine man. . My father, who lived in those times and was also accepted by the Bedouine, knew him and and respected him. The film was and remains a classic.No need to remake. Harping on about his sexuality is disrespectful and you have no right to take away his accomplishments. As my dad said " the poor devil was buggered by the Turks" a horrible and emotionally damaging event as is any rape and Lawrence was raped by more than one of them. My dad believed that this was perhaps why he crashed that bike .Have some respect for a man who was certainly a man of his time but was heroic, courageous and a man of action.
The two boys mentioned at 10:42 ( approx) were spectators on a near by hill, they heard the approaching Motorcycle+ sidecar, they said in witness testimony that a big black saloon coming the other way had caught the bike a glancing blow & caused the crash, the car did not stop but carried on !.( smoking gun) Their testimony was refuted & declared a little boys story?( smoking gun) Further Lawerence, was left on a camp bed in a nearby school, when he should reasonably have gone to hospital.. ( smoking gun) { the cover was; deemed to badly injured to move } He lasted longer than they expected, without proper medical care..a very Dark stain on Dark forces at work.
So what was the motive? Some think he was to get involved in giving Arabs their Independence and he was a threat to the Zionist movement!
This is not true. In fact, one of the boys involved - Frank Fletcher - stated many, many times, including at the inquest, that there was no black car. He also wrote a letter, after watching the film *_Lawrence of Arabia_*, to refute the film's version and to attest to this. The letter was given to the Wareham Town Museum by Fletcher's brother in 2006. His brother, Joe Fletcher, reiterated the fact that Frank called the story of the black vehicle "nonsense". Frank said that there was no one present at the scene but himself and the other boy, and that Lawrence had been trying to avoid them when he crashed. End of story. What you state is the precise opposite of what actually transpired, and of the boys' testimony.
@@fuzzamajumula You are just repeating what you have read, therefore do not really know...the true situation was much, much deeper & involved, why do you think he kept changing his name.?
@@fuzzamajumula Why should I believe you over the other poster who claimed a black car was involved. Were you there ?
You left out the fact that he was about 5ft 2. Which is ironic since Peter O'toole was well over 6ft tall.
Really? My imagination and the Cinema generated a tall man.
Was he really? Wow! Now I have to re-arrange him in my mind. Nope! Can't do it. Lawrence of Arabia will always be at least 6 feet tall to me.
for real?
chewycenter a lot of famous people were really short. Montgomery was something like 5 foot 4 but I’m pretty sure Lawrence was 5 6
5ft 5in as defined in his army records
Peter OToole was great in the part
The best biography, fair, perceptive, and compassionate, is John Mack’s “A Prince of Our Disorder.” I have read lots of them.
Read 7 Pillars?
@Anna Dayton talking about who?
Yes, I have read many books about TE,and "A Prince of our ...."written by John.Mack is the BEST book writen about TE.
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Astronomical Eclips in Warfare: July 05, 1917 Thomas Edward Lawrence aka "Lawrence of Arabia" used his knowledge of astronomical phenomena to carry out a daring night raid under the darkness of a total eclipse of the Moon. While the defenders were preoccupied by the Lunar eclipse, T.E. Lawrence and his troop of fifty Bedouin successfully pressed home their attack on the city of Aqaba - Jordan. No wonder why he became such an icon of leadership.
During the attack on Aqaba he fell off his camel, hit his head and lay ther unvonscious until it was all over...
I used to work near the Tank Depot called Bovington and passed Clouds Hill everyday on the same road on my motorbike and because I knew its past,was always very careful.Although the road is all tar now,in his day in the the middle it was a gravel track.Its no surprise that he had an accident on it.David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia was and is my favourite film.Its no surprise that the Toxic UK/US Media hounded him into an early grave,nothing much has changed,its still Toxic now.
Liberal Democratic movement....Marxist socialist activism.
Well anyone who came out and supported the rights of minority factions in a struggle for land and self survival would of course be hounded by the war hawks of England and the USA. Just make a stand in public in support for the struggling Palestinians today and see how long it take for the Jewish "onslaught" to begin ruining your career and name, your wives career and name, your children's name and future careers. your dogs name etc.
What do you mean ?
Are you saying I’m a Marxist ? Wherever did you get that from ?
How many mistakes can one program on Lawrence make? He never joined the RAF as a pilot; the crash that killed him was not high speed, the bike was in second gear when recovered which would have limited its top speed to about 40 mph; he was not only a map maker in Cairo during the early part of the war but was producing a news sheet on Arab notables and tribes for circulation through the army; just prior to the war he was a civilian in an army party tasked with mapping Sinai Peninsular; Lowell Thomas spent a day and half with Lawrence and was not present at any of the military engagements. To say that someone has modern blood on his hands for using explosives on a railway in 1917 and who died in 1935 is pure hyperbole. Incidentally, it was one of the British troops who accompanied Lawrence who developed the improvised charges, not Lawrence.
3 inaccuracies :
The cottage shown at 0:58 is at Cloud's Hill in Dorset, where Lawrence lived in his 30s , NOT the separate apartment he had behind his family home in Oxford.
The Arab revolt initiated in 1916 , not 1919.
Lawrence served in the RAF as an Aircraftsman(ground crew) and also on rescue boats. He was never a pilot.
I literally finished watching his movie last night and now I got this video as a suggestion to watch.
You're being watched by invisible overlords!
Which movie?
Google listens to you in your home.
Great piece, loved it.. every thing about him is interesting, literally everything..
It is ridiculous that modern docos and writers try to find a fault in such brave and noble adventurers like Lawrence of Arabia. They fought in harsh desert lands, without water or food, so, they were brave and amazing, period..!!
He was not a fictional adventurer like Indiana Jones, he was a man, he had his flaws
AS THE DARKNESS FALLS, AND ARABIA CALLS
ONE MAN SPREADS HIS WINGS AS THE BATTLE BEGINS
MAY THE LAND LAY CLAIM ON TO LAWRENCE NAME
SEVEN PILLARS OS WISDOM LIGHTS THE FLAME
Thank you so much for that Teddy. Did you know Lawrence personally? He could have been a member of the Rough Riders, hey?
I see you are a man of culture
One of my favorite song from the album
Freemason
A REVOLT TO GAIN INDEPENDENCE
Some people are born to greatness, some have greatness thrust upon them.....Lawrence was the later.
Pillars of wisdom talks od. Raped by Muslims
I’ve visited his home twice and each time felt his presence there strongly. I think he was a strange but extraordinary person.
I believe all extraordinary people have a strange attitude.Just look at Nikola Tesla and Einstein for example
Most people around you consider you very strange too, in case you were not aware of it!
I first discovered Lawerence in my seventies after having heard of him briefly at junior school,I picked up a biography of him on holiday in 2003 on second hand book stand,I have been enthralled ever since.
He was a very skilled motor cycle rider. I have some doubt that the account of his death is accurate. He may have been killed by the Foreign Office for his criticism of British Middle East policy.
There is discussion about a large black car seen in the area at the time, which appeared in early reports and vanished. Also, that the story of the two boys is a smokescreen
Pashak de Scilly @ thanks for the info, even then the British like other countries, kill the thorns in their sides.
@@ceciliag2929 The inquiry into Lawrence's death was convened in a military barracks by Secret Services, and the soldier who saw the black car and was willing to testify about it died, suddenly and mysteriously. It was not just TEL who was bumped off.
A large black car, eh?
A yewish car, surely?
Foolish fools. When interested in a good story well told read michael ashers lawrence biography.
A life that does not need any mysteries added.
@@pashakdescilly7517 You know the name of this poor soldier that die for the truth??
I read an article in THE BARNES REVIEW that argued in favor of the idea that he was assassinated because he favored a peaceful relationship with Germany. I can't remember the details, but I found it pretty convincing.
He didn't do that.He was just started to hanging out with top officials of the Fascist Party in the UK and believe to had met with Hitler already at some point before his retirement.That his why his detection to the Nazi side would be a huge loss of the British asset.And he was going to be appointed by his dear old friend as the head of the SIS
I doubt it, as he was secretly actively involved with the government in developing the defences of the UK against Germany. They knew in 1935 that war was likely, and had already begun to build up our Anti Aircraft defences (the Spanish Civil War also added to that likelihood), even before Chamberlain went to Hitler and got some toilet paper agreement.
One of my favorite movies. Shot on location, history. What a extraordinary life he led.
Love the movie. The modern world media live to dash our romanticism of the past! They are all such insufferable boors!
@@freemarketjoe9869 who is "our"??? Whytes? If so, it's because everything you put on a pedestal depicts you people as the savior or the hero in one way or another. It's call revisionist history.
He was not killed in a speeding bike. The gear was in second when found. He was travelling at 20 mph. He wore no helmet (they had not been invented).
I highly recommend the TV movie made in 1992 “A Dangerous Man” starring Ralph Fiennes
I HAD TOO chk this out - as this movie haunted me as a Kid...beings we Only had ONE tv ( it was the 60s/70's with NO Remote ) we kids were dads remote control...My DAD MADE US watch this movie every time it was on......so DAMMIT I'm gonna Finally find out the truth...I must have seen LOA 30+ times... Im 60 now
I LOVE this movie.
My parents would always see a movie before letting us go ( being 68 myself, you probably understand this) they saw it as too deep for us to understand, so i found it in my 40's. Ive seen it enough i can recite most of the dialogue.
On the remote-- my sister would always say she couldnt wait to have kids so that she would never have to do anything again. Lol
I've only s een this twice. First time I was about 12, and it was Dad's movie night, again in my thirties (58, now).
Geek that I am, what I remember about this movie is the magnificence of it. The sets, costumes, the horses, even! Then, there's the mechanics of it all; putting all of it together to unleash some awesome cinematography. Especially since, "in those days", CGI wasn't around, and most of it was filmed on the back lot of the studio. About the only place in America you can find sand dunes like.those in the Sahara is Death Valley. Since it is a National Monument, I don't think they could film there.They may have filmed on location. I don't know.
Time to watch it again, this time, I'll pay attention to the story...and read the end credits! ✌💖😺
P.S. the 'ask Google' option
would be faster, true. But
not nearly as much fun!
@@PhoenixLyon it had already been one of my favorite movies when they re-released it into theaters in 2002 for the 40th anniversary. I'm telling you it was something else just unbelievably beautiful cinematography wondrous
In that case I can't blame you.
@@charlesandrews2360 Looks like I should check out the new one.😺
I just watched the movie the other day. I still need to read his book.
do it
It's fantastic. I read the newspaper reporters book also, I can't remember his name it was enjoyable enough but definitely read
Lawrence's book
Me too!
The quote from his memoir isn't racist at all it's just the way you're interpreting it, he said he'd rather deal with the average everyday Arab versus one who has had his brain twisted by the Europeans, it seems like more of a condemnation of europeans. It really bothers me when these quasi-historical shows just end up being hit pieces.
And I know what he meant. Thanks to Lawrence, I went to the Middle East alot, specially Syria. At the beginning the country was pretty much in a shell, no internet, no Coca Cola, no Western food like pizza, and alcohol only in the christian areas. I fell in love with the people.
The last time I was there was during the beginning of the revolt. The country has been "developped" by the new president ( and China), internet everywhere, and people treated me differently, spoke more vulgar ( thanks to the internet) and were generally less unique. Sad. And like Lawrence, I felt most at home with the beduins
This video is nonsense.
He was a friend of the Arab people.
The Arabs knew that it would be easier to expel the British than than the Turks.
After the war he and Gertrude Bell helped the Arabs.
The British themselves expelled the Vichy French from the Middle East.
He designed rescue boats for the RAF pilots.
Anybody knows motorcycles are dangerous.
Agreed he loved arabs
I'm sure I heard that he was instrumental in setting up the Air Sea Rescue service that saved many aircrew in the second world war.
Not instrumental, buf he was certainly involved.
Yes, there's a boat in the Southampton maritime museum.
He helped develop the boats for that purpose, testing many himself and doing much engineering involved in them. Had they been available earlier in the war (UK government always too darned slow to do something sensible and logical as usual) over 240 airmen could have been rescued and not lost in the sea , a tragedy which could have been avoided.
This is one my all-time favourite Films. If you have not seen it please place on your to do list!
I never tire of this movie. It’s not history, but it’s a terrific historical yarn. Also a great test of my stereo system!!
I didn’t know about his young years. I consider his story one of the most astonishing I have ever heard.
Read "The Mint" his book about his life in the RAF. A great read!
Wow. Never knew that. I will look it up!
Yes and in it he mentions his love for a woman, he asked to marry and was rejected, a great book. He is also mentioned in a book about the RAF Air Sea Rescue service
A tough read, actually. He was raised s catholic. He punished himself relentlessly with this low rank job
Lawrence means a great deal to us in the Hejaz .
your welcome
@@lawrenceofarabia7474 You do not understand English. T. E. Lawrence consummately did.
@@machtschnell7452 excuse me?
Yes and the royal family in saudi owe their lives to lawrence.sinve he fathered the forien minister after having an affair with king fesals wife
@Tamiim SnofKhair hes still the saudi princes dad
When I worked at Bovington I used to pass Clouds Hill every morning on the same road Lawrence came off his motorbike.I was very conscious of this and took extra care especially when Tank Transports were using the same road.If it wasn’t for the UK Media hounding him he could of faded away.
Nothing much has changed on that score,the British Media are anathema to any decent person,including Heroes like Lawrence,like it or not he was one.
An english colonialist and an opportunist who helped arabs backstab "oppressive" ottomans. I personally dont blame him, if someone read a single paper on arab history, he would see that it's what they do since the dawn of time
He was a sicko that fucked up the middle east for a century and more
Fax
NEVER subject yourself to watching: "A Dangerous Man" which is Ralph Fiennes acting like Peter O'toole in his portrayal of T.E. Lawrence. O'toole never met Lawrence and went on instinct for this role, but Fiennes uses all of O'toole's mannerisms and speech patterns and this sad, ridiculous charade just pounds the image to death.
@hoodle101 Indeed 🙄
Somehow I think Ralph Fiennes knows more about T.E.Lawrence than you...
@@juttamaier2111 And yet he played the role without an ounce of originality or nuance.
@@blackbird5634 Or maybe they just both understood the character 🙄
I visited his home in dorset i think it was in the late 80s a lovely elderly lady was looking after it and she told me that she met him when she was about 7 yreas old i went upstaires and was amazed to see his belongings all around inc his gramaphone!!--it was a very small area to see and i felt very honoured to be there, the motor bike that he was killed on are worth a lot of money today maybe £250,000, also its worth visiting his grave and the church not far away, the small church has absolutley stunning glass windows all in a lovely out of the way area !-----not far from durdle door and the sea.
I visited Clouds Hill in 1968 and met a very nice refined lady who was in her 70s she said she lived across the road from Lawrence and used to take care of the small house,
I'm 64 and remember as a boy in 1971 a television program hosted by a man " LOWE THOMAS" who met and interviewed Lawrence during that war. So people who fought with Lawrence were still living in the 1970's .
Whether he was gay or asexual is nobody's business. I have yet to hear that a person's sexualitybhas a bearing on one's intelligence or ethics
I'm saving this video for my husband, he's a big history buff, he will enjoy it and be saddened by it
He did not support Arabs against Ottoman Empire but the fact is he single handedly with the huge financial and arms support, divided Arabs and instigated them against Turks (Ottoman Empire). He continued to provide support to the rebel groups he created, to defeat Ottoman Empire. The reason wasn't any atrocities by Ottoman, they were the most just rulers who never disturbed the social and religious cultures of the places they ruled. Lawrence's biggest motivation was revenge against Ottoman accounting for all the wars where Ottoman defeated Crusaders badly.
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My son and I just went to the movies to see Lawrence of Arabia, it was fantastic.
I learned that Peter O'Toole strongly resembled T.E. Lawrence.
Except that he lacked Lawrence's obvious prognathism.
Hmm, not really... It was a great movie but Tom was around 5'.4" and Peter O'Toole was about 6'.2" and a complete opposite of T.E. Lawrence, certainly in real life where he never drank/ smoked whereas Peter drank and smoked as if it was air. They wanted to make a film a few years before T.E.'s death with Leslie Howard playing the lead but he was appalled and appealed hard not to have a movie made.He certainly would of disapproved with the movie in 1962..A private man made more so with what he encountered during his time at war and his life throughout.
@@brianrodney712 hidden by the thobe of course
I can't imagine anyone else playing the part.
If you compare the photos of Mr Lawrence with those of Mr O’Toole, you will clearly see there is no resemblance. Also Mr Lawrence was a very short man and Mr O’Toole very tall.
I’ve read a lot of books from the early 20th century and they all seem to have a very standardized almost stuffy writing style. However, not 7 pillars of wisdom. TE Lawrence writes with a lot of emotion personality that I think is still almost unparalleled to find in an autobiographical work. If you’re looking for a specific example, read all of book 10. It is genuinely the highlight of the book for me.
Some men require war to give them the relationships and experiences they otherwise could not justify.
I am watching the Oscar winning Best Picture film, Lawrence of Arabia, for the umpteenth time, and it doesn't bore me as a four hour epic on the contributions of British officer T. E. Lawrence to the betterment of the Arab world against the Turks. As far as the man was concerned, his complex life is secondary to me. What was important was his attempt to make a strong difference in the lives of Middle Easterners and their quest for freedom. At least he was a beneficiary of it.
I loved the grandeur and epic portrayal of the land, places and people of the movie. Unfortunately it soured and I have no longer been able to watch it when I learned that our Australian Light Horse soldiers were written out of the war history of the time by Lawrence. I think it's thoughtless disrespect to deny those who sacrifice and fight for the war effort to be forgotten regardless of idealism. So with my heart still full I have written this prose for them about this tragedy. And it goes for all those forgotten.
*The 4th Australian Light Horse*
_The sands of loneliness_
_Traversed on the blooded and steady Waler horse_
_Head well up and girth cinched tight_
_The proud young Australian bushman sits_
_Answering the call to arms and duty_
_Flare and adventure still bright and keen_
_In the hearts of our wise young men_
_A brigade of bright young larrikiins_
_How lightly we spend the spirit_
_Of the hero who falls_
_Mocking him with our forgetfulness_
_Lest we forget_
(CJ Whitney copyright 2020)
Beautiful.we should never forget.
Be'ersheva is not forgotten, Masada / Dead Sea and Beersheba is on my list of most see places. 4th Australian light Horse, bloody brave lads 👍....by the way! I'm English, proud of the Anzacs heroism.
That poem is at best obtuse.
@@machtschnell7452 I'm not sure what you mean but it's not a poem. If you don't like it, that's fine, not everybody would
@@machtschnell7452 Actually I think I know what you mean. It was too much adulation or hero worship. Perhaps, you're right, but that is how we like to remember our Australian soldiers. In the best possible light of our hearts and minds.
Hang on a tick... was this video just a ruse, an elaborate commercial for the suicide hotline?!
j/k
I love T.E. Lawrence, and Lawrence of Arabia is my favourite film. Great vid!
i like this man
It seems the rules have changed. Whenever the possibility of suicide is mentioned . The sponsor has to give the information for a suicide hotline/prevention. Hope it has helped someone.
@@jannweitman3803 it helped me understand.
Very strange to be sure. The modern liberal p.c. control freak world is depressing enough to make us all think about calling!
So what!?
Left out the incredible story of Lawrence losing in a train station the original manuscript for Seven Pillars, and then re-writing the whole long book.
Some men are not created to grow old, and when they survive their meeting with death, are faced with a life they had never planned for.
Roteiro inteligente, grandes atores, um tema.musical lindo! Coloco-o entre os 10 melhores de todos os tempos! Fascinante!!!
What's so tragic about his life?
He spent a summer in Aberdeenshire along with a fellow tank soldier. Both seemingly were fond of flagellation.
What was he famous for? his ability to act and influence people? I'm just searching about him lately, can you shear what you know please
Oop.
Lawrence reported that he was raped, when he was captured by the Turks--the officer ordered, "Show him everything"---who didn't know that he was British, but, as I recollect, thought he was Ossetian, instead. (Ossetia is in southern Russia, between Georgia and Chechnya.
The film was a brilliant film also the music.
Thanks for that last bit. Damn proper of you.
A couple of observations: 1) There's irony in a man who supported guerrilla warfare against Britain, (Irishman Peter O'Toole), portraying a British exponent of guerrilla warfare against Turks. 2) It's amazing how many homosexual heroes the British public school system produced back then - it's almost as if a "repressed male" lifestyle was part of elite British culture. Lawrence was certainly an interesting character.
He was also credited with developing the first air sea rescue service for downed airmen. It saved many lives..
From the pictures, I learned, when TE Lawrence was in the air force under the name "Ross", he pioneered both jets and helicopters!
yes I did
@Mark Davidson Okay Millennial! ...Btw: TE Lawrence is Lawrence of Arabia, you useless dumbass!
? the only moron here is you
@Mark Davidson Troll :)
@Mark Davidson no u
Lawrence joined the Arab Revolt in 1916, not 1919.
A friend told me many years ago that he knew someone that claimed that he discovered Lawrence's motorbike rusting away chained to a rail at the cottage.
I've seen it in the Imperial War Museum in London a few years ago- The bike depicted at 10:19 is exactly what I saw.
@@lawrencelewis8105 It did state here, that he had several bikes. So could have been one of them.
@@bobdownes162 The exhibit did say that it was a bike he died on. He owned maybe five of them and was friends with George Brough. I was at a classic car show in Michigan a few years ago and the best motorcycle was a 1938 Brough Superior SS-100. I imagine Lawrence would have owned one had he lived. It was a beautiful bike in mint condition whereas the one in the museum looked like it was used regularly.
He might have found one of the previous ones he owned. Lawrence bought eight Brough Superior SS-100 and was a friend of the manufacturer. He died on number seven and the eighth one which was due to be delivered to him was awaiting a payment. It's now at the Tank Museum at Bovington. As far as I am aware, after TEL died, the seventh motorcycle was repaired. I don't know where it ended up, but it is suggested that it is in the Imperial War Museum, though I've never seen it. The Brough Superior SS-100 you saw might have been one of the earlier ones which were sold to other buyers.
Thanks for the info.
So, what's the tragic truth or is this click bait.
PSA was unexpected, very cool. If you need help call. Great overview.
I hate how Lawrence of Arabia seems like a hero. The true is he was a con man who betrayed his men and looked down on them thinking he is more superior. What a shame
I think you totally misjudge him. He bonded with the Arab cause and felt betrayed by the French and especially the British.
@@machtschnell7452 He exploited the hospitality of the Arabs to his own advantage. He used to talk about them so bad (Sometimes he said good things, but not totally good either). I will give some examples of what he said :
In a letter of July 1918 : “the Arab appealed to my imagination. It is the old, old civilisation, which has refined itself clear of the household gods, and half the trappings which ours hastens to assume. The gospel of bareness in materials is a good one, and it involves apparently a sort of moral bareness too.”
“They think for the moment, and endeavour to slip through life without turning corners or climbing hills. In part it is a mental and moral fatigue, a race trained out, and to avoid difficulties they have to jettison so much that we think honourable and grave.”
Yet in his 1921 introduction to Doughty’s Arabia Deserta, Lawrence wrote of contemporary Arabs: “They are a limited narrow-minded people whose inert intellects lie incuriously fallow. Their imaginations are keen but not creative. There is so little Arab art to-day in Asia that they can nearly be said to have no art… . They show no longing for great industry, no organisations of mind or body anywhere. They invent no systems of philosophy or mythologies.”
In June 1911, while digging at Carchemish, he exclaimed: “The perfectly hopeless vulgarity of the half-Europeanised Arab is appalling. Better a thousand times the Arab untouched.”
Writing from Cairo the following year, he lamented that “the Egyptian people are horribly ugly, very dirty, dull, low-spirited, without any of the vigour or the self-confident independence of our [Carchemish] men. Besides, the [religious] fanaticism of the country is deplorable, and the treatment of the women most un European”
Also he said : “Arabs could be swung on an idea as on a cord; for the unpledged allegiance of their minds made them obedient servants… . They were incorrigibly children of the idea, feckless and colour-blind, to whom body and spirit were for ever and inevitably opposed. Their mind was strange and dark, full of depressions and exaltations, lacking in rule, but with more of ardour and more fertile of belief than any other in the world.”
He described Arabs as : “one of the shallowest and least patient races of mankind”
Again : “I was tired to death of these Arabs; petty incarnate Semites who attained heights and depths beyond our reach though not beyond our sight. They realized our absolute in their unrestrained capacity for good and evil.”
You can see that he was nearly a schizophrenic person; he had bipolar opinions about the same matters.
When he talked about “Feisal”, an Arab leader from Mecca, he first described him as :
“very tall and pillar-like … framed between the uprights of a black doorway… . His hands were crossed in front of him on his dagger.”
“Sherif Feisal (3rd Son of Sherif of Mecca), to whom I am attached, is about 31, tall, slight, lively, well-educated. He is charming towards me, and we get on perfectly together. He has a tremendous reputation in the Arab world as a leader of men, and a diplomat. His strong point is handling tribes: he has the manner that gets on perfectly with tribesmen, and they all love him. At present he is governing a patch of country about as large as Wales, and doing it efficiently.”
“had in him something of the prophetic fire, and his eloquence, enthusiasm, and knowledge soon gave him a personal ascendancy over all the tribes in contact with him.”
But then he described him in a whole different way :
“Feisal was less than weak, he was empty, only a great pipe waiting for a wind”
“Feisal, a timid man, hated running into danger, yet would do anything for Arab freedom-his one passion, purely unselfish. Here, as later in Iraq, it made him face things and risks he hated. At original attack on Medina he had nerved himself to put on a bold front, and the effort had shaken him so that he never courted danger in battle again.”
Then when writing his book, he described him as :
“tall, graceful and vigorous, with the most beautiful gait, and a royal dignity of head and shoulders… . Appetite and physical weakness were mated in him, with the spur of courage. His personal charm, his imprudence, the pathetic hint of frailty as the sole reserve of this proud character made him the idol of his followers.”
Lawrence also praises Feisal as a judge and diplomat, and for his ability to attract and unite the tribal armies, which he raised for a particular campaign as he passed through their territory and then left behind as he advanced northward. By the time the heterogeneous tribes reached Damascus, only a few hundred Hejazis “i.e. Saudis” remained in the army, and they had in their ranks “hundreds of deadly enemies, their feuds barely suspended by Feisal’s peace.”
In conclusion, i don’t think he was/is worthy of any respect. He manipulated ignorant and naive people to reach his goals. Serving his own country, and ruining Arab countries.
What a fascinating life this man led its straight out of a boys own adventure book fantastic video subbed and liked
Very nice and sweet, heartfelt ending to this. Yes, I've read the books, seen the film and had my suspicions. I did not know about the RAF and Tank Corps episodes. That final letter IS very telling.
The Brough superior is pronounced " Bruff " not " bro " .
Jesus, all the ads almost ruined this video
A.d.b.l.o.c.k....P.l.u.s...take out the commas!
His life was a real paradox but I found it profoundly interesting ideed.
Interesting man and legend.
I like this man
@Bahaddin Souf what nation their was no nation
@@lawrenceofarabia7474 There were no nations, because it was all ruled by Ottoman Empire and Lawrence backed by his British government worked hard to create divisions and protests against Ottomans.
@@Fabs625 even though most people were happy under the ottomans yeah
@Bahaddin Souf arabs always wantedd freedom from the turkic empire laurence was a freedom fighter
Badly written script. Could have been a fascinating insight into this extraordinary man ‘s
short but dynamic life. Disappointing !