Morning Andy. Just like to say it was great to see you at the shooting show, thanls very much for taking the time to sign my cap and for the picture. You were a true gent. All the very best! :D
Seems a reasonable gun, noticed when you put it on the tripod the barrel seemed to move and point of impact changed so wonder if it wasn't bedding/sealing correctly. Another enjoyable watch.
I was thinking just the same, dry firing is something I can get away with on my Daystates but if it's one of my BSA Standards, hard to do but we've probably all done it, then I'm really annoyed with myself 😮😒👍👍😊
hello andy .low shots can be done by your way of trowing the gun at the rest , breakbarrels can to open a little , lay the gun on the side and roll it up , and close it at the same force shot after shot
The lock is it a steel ball or the like hw rifles as on the ball breach there is a little play banging it down will not help and the banging down if it moves then the prob will become bent and then you have problems not for me and just there is better rifles out.
Morning Andy I think it might be a lot more accurate if it was shot off a bag with your hand under the stock as it was bouncing a bit on the rest you were using which is not really suited to spring guns.
@@PiperX1X Yes and then, when you are an acknowledged " not a springer shooter" that thought, perhaps, didn't come to mind while shooting. I was thinking more along the lines of slightly knocking the barrel downwards as well as jarring that cheap scope. What do you say, should we ask 'Dear Andy' to re-do this 'range time' ?🤣
Great review Do any #AAR viewers remember the 1970's El Gamo Paratrooper? the brilliant 1st ever multi shot air rifle had an in line magazine that sat on top of the barrel.
Nice to listen to you talk last Sunday at the Shooting show. Spent a good amount of time and money at the BSA lane behind an R12 and a CLX Ultra. Very enjoyable, both amazing rifles. Had a great time. One of the sights was enhanced (best way to describe it) amazing bit of kit. Thanks for another great video
Looks like a decent rifle. If anyone is looking for a multi shot break barrel with iron sights I'd highly recommend the Milbro Hunt Master MK2. The guys at the gun store didn't want to order it in but once they saw/heard me shooting it on their range they had to have a go and couldn't believe it was sub 12 ft. The cocking is quite hard but it packs a punch. Was hitting metal targets at 30m standing up with just the iron sights. I have the gamo multi shot but it's no where near as good. Would recommend having a look. Also it's 12 shot and took 25 gr slug easily as well as H & N hornets.They sell the rifle as a umarex emerge in the states or a Snowpeak sr1000x in Europe.
I was hoping someone would point that out. I have several nitrogen gas ram rifles & they don't tear up scopes or lose power when the temperatures dip down.
Hi andy thank you for beautiful video so will you be get the American version or jt would be a UK fac version would love to see if get the same type of grouping, if a fac power version better or worse andy
Years ago I has an ASI Paratrooper rifle. It srored about 20 pellets in a spring loaded tube on top of the cylinder. When the barrel was broken, a breech block popped up and the spring pushed a pellet into it. When the barrel was closed it pushed the breech block back down with the pellet. I could get through a hundred pellets in no time just plinking!
I had a Gamo with the same system, wooden stock, when I was a kid, back in the early 80's in Spain. I miss a lot that little carbine, and often wonder why that multi-shot system is not still in use.
I have the Crosman mag fire diamondback and it uses the same type of magazing system. One thing to through out there is the rear sight interfeers with seeing what number pellet your on. You can see it but not easily. If your using a scope, remove the rear sight so you can easily see the number pellet your on.
Nice review. Thanks. I'm wondering if you used the Tom Gaylord "Artillery Hold" that this would improve the results of your groups. Tripods are great for PCP's, but for springers, I find the Artillery Hold results in tighter groups.
It may be worth mentioning to you viewers that they should check that they’ve not been ‘unsubscribed’. I wondered why I’d not had your videos pop up for a few weeks, that was the reason.
IF YOUR A PCP OR A SPRINGER USER ARE A SPRINGER MAN ANY AIRGUN SHOOTER YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COPE WITH EATHER JUST REMEMBER TO BREATH OUT BEFORE FIRING IT
I'm a huge fan of Springers...I like Guns that power themselves...the CO2s are ok but give me a Springer any day....I like this one and may invest...but I'll hang fire till I've seen it's Brothers' reviews...well presented as usual looking forward to the other Crossman reviews.
Thats not too bad. I always thought springers and tripods/bipods dont go together. Too much 'bounce' affecting POI. Might be worth trying with a soft bag rest. Just a thought.
Please do the reviews soon because that is a sweet full power rifle and i would love to see the different options available. Springers are my bag, having spent many, many hours shooting field target with a Webley Vulcan ( which i still own)
Not very accurate why is that I've had this problem before with air guns it's got to be pellets and not the barrel get the right pellets and it's a different gun but to spend a lot of money could be costly in deed great video.
Thank's Andy, it seems a nice rifle for the price but I don't like those barrel shrouds that seem to be popping up on some budget guns, leave it off and pay a few more Yen to get it threaded, thats just a personal opinion though.
*I like the stock alot it is better looking than most Crosman's* but with my experience with my Gamo gen 1 and what I've heard from every other brands I won't be buying an other multi shot break barrel anytime soon! _[In fact I might never buy a plastic mag airgun ever again]_
Hi Andy, another great review, shooting on a sandbag would help with the grouping as it allows the rifle to recoil more naturally (you probably know that)😂
greetings from down under enjoy your reports on air rifles sadly many unavaiable here and you are aware of our laws re owning an air rifle or even to purchase pellets my question is what do you know of the Chines BAM XSB50 PCP , i have BSA GRT in .22 nice rifle ,hope you can give some info on the BAM as seems zero on the net
A little late for me this week based entirely on the advice my mom gave me as a boy , " if you cant say anything. Nice dont say anything at all ." See you next Friday Dave
You really banged that gun down on the tripod Andy. I saw the barrel flitch and wonder if it would hsve shot better with a gentler hand. I have many springers and really like the idea of multi-shot. Shame about that dreadful plastic "shroud" over the barrel. Otherwise an interesting rifle.
Interesting NP, seems there is a trade off with ease of cocking and FPS. I like it, the sub 12 fps means it shouldn't be a scope killer. My 17 fps NP is not scope friendly.
Having seen andy shoot a fair amount of springers here i think the review is quite generous. It may look and feel like a better gun but the proof is in the target work all day. A wire scope in a recoiling rifle package? Whats that telling you - walk away is what it says to me
Does anyone have any info on the new models of SMK spring break barrel rifles, namely the XS22 and XS24?. It seems these have possibly replaced the Supergrade 208 series, but I wonder if they are as good?. SMK needed something new with their own stamp on it to compete with Remington's Express and Sabre. Can't beat a budget belter!.
This will take longer to load than a regular break barrel. The only benefit I can see is if when hunting you wanted to take several shots before the bunnies ran away. An underlever might be a good idea though as it would be less fiddly and less likely to chop off your finger tips.
I'm sure your hourly rate is much more than that of the electricians, not fair that your are slagging off tradesmen, you are not just paying for his manual labour, you are paying for knowledge. I love watching your channel and look forward to Friday, I just think this statment is out of order.
@@AAROnairyou're lucky he didn't want that an hour, they're greedy buggers most of em, and getting em to come back and adjust something they did is like waiting for the second coming, with more chance of it happening. 😂
Would have benefitted from a different colour on the 0 slot of the magazine as an additional reminder not to load a pellet in that slot, especially in low light conditions.
you can literally see the barrel assembly visibly sag or rebound when Andy is hatchet swinging the rifle down onto the rest point.....I mean just remarkable technique there Andy, I didnt realize you were supposed to bash the rifle rest with the gun like it owed you money. Whats the farthest range in yards you usually fire your airguns? Id like to see how you do with that rifle at 70-80yd from the bench or even offhand.
the hull cartridges guy on the Weihrauch stand said it best at the british shooting show....pcp's have no soul where even a cheap springer does...i own a hw110 and it's a soulless tool where my Walther springers are the opposite.....
Its pure nostalgia in this day n age to use a single shot, like taking a bow and arrow to a uzi fight lol. Co2 is my preference, 20 shots a mag, six at the least in a revolver. But personal choice is what makes the world go round vive la difference. I'm 66 and loved air rifles as a young lad but now I've discovered co2 in the last 2 years, I'd only have a single shot springer as a wall mounted memory. I once had a Webley Hawke interchangable barrels 177 & 22 loved it but now l would step straight over it to get to a co2 multi shot. 😂
The rifle is cheap so I understand its limitations. I have a break barrel myself. But It rather defeats the object if you have to break the barrel for every shot. If you could do it 10 times then shoot 10 times, that would be useful. The loading of the pellets is really not a big deal.
It made me cringe when you dropped the rifle down onto the tripod. My Umarex break-barrel rifle will shoot low when treated this way. It took me a while to figure out what was going on... I actually set the rifle down sideways, then turn it to make sure there's no vibration that could move the barrel slightly.
Come on "I'm not a springer shooter" Andy. It's a gas -ram but does shoot more or less like a springer. If your resting the forends, stop using your pcp rest and get a bean bag, even then I'd put my palm on the bean bag and the forend on my palm. Even if you don't use your left hand the bean bag will allow your rifle to recoil as it wants!
Morning Andy and viewers of the channel. I'm currently looking for a nice rifle for pest control with a budget of £500. It will be my first rifle. Can anyone advise on what would be good for the job and my budget? Thank you in advance 😊
You will struggle to get a full pcp kit for £500 to include scope, gun & means to re fill the gun. Andy did a review of a gamo kit some time ago for just over £500. If you go springer route agree weirauch 99 with a hawke scope to fit your budget.
I can’t believe how you slammed that rifle down on the rest after each time you reloaded it I am surprised you got the grouping that you had maybe if you had treated the gun with a little more respect you would’ve got a better group
Sir question,,, How to decock an semi auto or magazined pcp/airgun without detaching the magazine.. And how to cock it with loaded barrel with magazine.. Indo pcp does have that feature.
Everything behind the breech looks really nice, everything forward of it looking like some oversized, ugly blob of plastic. I feel that the looks of that part of it are to please the American market, heavily influenced by Gamo. If it had a regular unshrouded barrel I think it would look so much better and I'd think about buying it, but not the way it is.
we all know your not a springer shooter but for us that are, a single shot break barrel rifle is mine and 99% of springer choice over a multi shot break barrel - we are traditionalist
I'd be tempted if it weren't for that ridiculous lump of plastic on the end of the barrel. Why do these companies seem to always do this on budget guns??? Just stop it!
Not for the experienced air rifle shooter. For a beginner, make it sound cool and look cool. Multi shot is a gimmick in not designed well and at a price to reflect it. On a budget rifle, that's a red flag.
What's the point of having a ugly plastic shroud fitted ? There's virtually no noise suppression anyway ! I would have preferred to have seen an optional silencer fitted. Chunky pointless shrouds on a springer as good as this is wrong !
Morning Andy. Just like to say it was great to see you at the shooting show, thanls very much for taking the time to sign my cap and for the picture. You were a true gent. All the very best! :D
Seems a reasonable gun, noticed when you put it on the tripod the barrel seemed to move and point of impact changed so wonder if it wasn't bedding/sealing correctly.
Another enjoyable watch.
Would there be a tendency to lose count and dry fire an eleventh shot and could this cause harm, or does the gas ram make a dry fire irrelevant? 🤔
I was thinking just the same, dry firing is something I can get away with on my Daystates but if it's one of my BSA Standards, hard to do but we've probably all done it, then I'm really annoyed with myself 😮😒👍👍😊
hello andy .low shots can be done by your way of trowing the gun at the rest , breakbarrels can to open a little , lay the gun on the side and roll it up , and close it at the same force shot after shot
The lock is it a steel ball or the like hw rifles as on the ball breach there is a little play banging it down will not help and the banging down if it moves then the prob will become bent and then you have problems not for me and just there is better rifles out.
Morning Andy I think it might be a lot more accurate if it was shot off a bag with your hand under the stock as it was bouncing a bit on the rest you were using which is not really suited to spring guns.
Great Job Andy, I prefer springers over CO2 any day.
Don't slam it down on the rest Andy 😂
I noticed that too, and wonder if that was a cause for the low shots?
@@regsparkes6507yes I noticed that as well and played back confirm and wondered if that had knocked the scope a tad🤔
@@PiperX1X Yes and then, when you are an acknowledged " not a springer shooter" that thought, perhaps, didn't come to mind while shooting.
I was thinking more along the lines of slightly knocking the barrel downwards as well as jarring that cheap scope.
What do you say, should we ask 'Dear Andy' to re-do this 'range time' ?🤣
Will dry firing a springer ruin it? Thank you for your time, I enjoy your videos.
No but i could, if its still accurate your good to go and else the piston is maybe damaged, but it happends sometimes
Great review Do any #AAR viewers remember the 1970's El Gamo Paratrooper? the brilliant 1st ever multi shot air rifle had an in line magazine that sat on top of the barrel.
Thank you to Mrs AA on air. first thing Saturday morning at the British Shooting Show when I bought another air rifle to add to the collection. 😊
Nice to listen to you talk last Sunday at the Shooting show. Spent a good amount of time and money at the BSA lane behind an R12 and a CLX Ultra. Very enjoyable, both amazing rifles. Had a great time. One of the sights was enhanced (best way to describe it) amazing bit of kit. Thanks for another great video
Looks like a decent rifle. If anyone is looking for a multi shot break barrel with iron sights I'd highly recommend the Milbro Hunt Master MK2. The guys at the gun store didn't want to order it in but once they saw/heard me shooting it on their range they had to have a go and couldn't believe it was sub 12 ft. The cocking is quite hard but it packs a punch. Was hitting metal targets at 30m standing up with just the iron sights. I have the gamo multi shot but it's no where near as good. Would recommend having a look. Also it's 12 shot and took 25 gr slug easily as well as H & N hornets.They sell the rifle as a umarex emerge in the states or a Snowpeak sr1000x in Europe.
Useful to know. Thanks for posting. 👍
I came across this the other day while researching for multi shot break barrels. Can't find much info online about it though, is it a new model?
@@forcerites_8385 turns out there is an issue with this one, I'd hold off on buying it
That is a nice looking stock. The steeper angle of the grip is more comfortable for my arthritic creaky old hands.
Nice looking gun but I am always cautious about nitro pistons as if they malfunction unlike a spring you can't fix the problem yourself.
Sir only one doubt which one best crosmon or gamo for hunting purpose
Love your channel Andy, novice shooter here, but just thank you for your reviews. Excellent.
dont worry, Andy is a novice shooter also.
Hi Andy
Thanks very much for another very enjoyable and informative video.
Andy
Buy a Diana Storm rider. Mount a cheap Chinese scope. Buy a cheap Chinese hand pump. You'll be happy you did.
Morning Andy nice to see and Mrs AAR at the shoot show 😊 you cost me a fortune 😀
Being a Nitro Piston means it’s not a Springer it’s actually a Gas Ram…..
I was hoping someone would point that out. I have several nitrogen gas ram rifles & they don't tear up scopes or lose power when the temperatures dip down.
Hi andy thank you for beautiful video so will you be get the American version or jt would be a UK fac version would love to see if get the same type of grouping, if a fac power version better or worse andy
just a thouyght, is there a bullpup break barrel?
Years ago I has an ASI Paratrooper rifle. It srored about 20 pellets in a spring loaded tube on top of the cylinder. When the barrel was broken, a breech block popped up and the spring pushed a pellet into it. When the barrel was closed it pushed the breech block back down with the pellet. I could get through a hundred pellets in no time just plinking!
I had a Gamo with the same system, wooden stock, when I was a kid, back in the early 80's in Spain.
I miss a lot that little carbine, and often wonder why that multi-shot system is not still in use.
I have the Crosman mag fire diamondback and it uses the same type of magazing system. One thing to through out there is the rear sight interfeers with seeing what number pellet your on. You can see it but not easily. If your using a scope, remove the rear sight so you can easily see the number pellet your on.
What pellets do you find best
Im .177
Also did yours come with an adjustable trigger. Mine didn't
Nice review. Thanks.
I'm wondering if you used the Tom Gaylord "Artillery Hold" that this would improve the results of your groups.
Tripods are great for PCP's, but for springers, I find the Artillery Hold results in tighter groups.
It may be worth mentioning to you viewers that they should check that they’ve not been ‘unsubscribed’.
I wondered why I’d not had your videos pop up for a few weeks, that was the reason.
IF YOUR A PCP OR A SPRINGER USER ARE A SPRINGER MAN ANY AIRGUN SHOOTER YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COPE WITH EATHER JUST REMEMBER TO BREATH OUT BEFORE FIRING IT
Andy,good morning,here’s hoping you’ll be reviewing the new FX DRS sometime soon ,it looks superb but l missed it at the British shooting show ☹️
I'm a huge fan of Springers...I like Guns that power themselves...the CO2s are ok but give me a Springer any day....I like this one and may invest...but I'll hang fire till I've seen it's Brothers' reviews...well presented as usual looking forward to the other Crossman reviews.
Thats not too bad. I always thought springers and tripods/bipods dont go together. Too much 'bounce' affecting POI. Might be worth trying with a soft bag rest. Just a thought.
Please do the reviews soon because that is a sweet full power rifle and i would love to see the different options available. Springers are my bag, having spent many, many hours shooting field target with a Webley Vulcan ( which i still own)
Hi Andy how does it compare with the Gamo Varmint Swarm?
Well asked question. Not much difference I can see.
Not very accurate why is that I've had this problem before with air guns it's got to be pellets and not the barrel get the right pellets and it's a different gun but to spend a lot of money could be costly in deed great video.
Thank's Andy, it seems a nice rifle for the price but I don't like those barrel shrouds that seem to be popping up on some budget guns, leave it off and pay a few more Yen to get it threaded, thats just a personal opinion though.
Why don't you correctly zero the scopes in before you use them... instead of roughly zeroed, as you described it in the video...
Because it is the grouping that's more important.
So a Gamo copy.?
*I like the stock alot it is better looking than most Crosman's* but with my experience with my Gamo gen 1 and what I've heard from every other brands I won't be buying an other multi shot break barrel anytime soon!
_[In fact I might never buy a plastic mag airgun ever again]_
Hi Andy I am looking to buy a ata airborne cpc have you reviewed 1 as I can't seem to find a video if you have if not what is your opinion on it
Hi Andy, another great review, shooting on a sandbag would help with the grouping as it allows the rifle to recoil more naturally (you probably know that)😂
Morning everyone! Have a nice weekend!
greetings from down under enjoy your reports on air rifles sadly many unavaiable here and you are aware of our laws re owning an air rifle or even to purchase pellets my question is what do you know of the Chines BAM XSB50 PCP , i have BSA GRT in .22 nice rifle ,hope you can give some info on the BAM as seems zero on the net
Good morning , everybody ... Have a great day ....
is this a springer or Nitro Piston Elite?
Dear sir Andy, though well aware of your busy schedule , when will we get to see the EPIC 2 FAC review 😀
Working on it! It will be April at the earliest I’m afraid,
Hi Andy you are the person I always come to when looking for a new air rifle I was just wondering if you could review the new FX drs classic
A little late for me this week based entirely on the advice my mom gave me as a boy , " if you cant say anything. Nice dont say anything at all ."
See you next Friday
Dave
You really banged that gun down on the tripod Andy. I saw the barrel flitch and wonder if it would hsve shot better with a gentler hand. I have many springers and really like the idea of multi-shot. Shame about that dreadful plastic "shroud" over the barrel. Otherwise an interesting rifle.
Nice gun,great review.
Hi were did u get that seat table for shooting just wat I need
It was great to meet you the other day.
Is it just me. Or does it bother anyone else that andy keeps calling it a springer. When he has said several times that its a nitro piston, gas ram.
Interesting NP, seems there is a trade off with ease of cocking and FPS. I like it, the sub 12 fps means it shouldn't be a scope killer. My 17 fps NP is not scope friendly.
I don’t think reloading a springer is tedious. It like comparing a manual car with an automatic. I prefer single shot guns.
Having seen andy shoot a fair amount of springers here i think the review is quite generous. It may look and feel like a better gun but the proof is in the target work all day. A wire scope in a recoiling rifle package? Whats that telling you - walk away is what it says to me
No silencer is a bit of a negative. The budget end of rifles is getting very crowded and packages are very attractive.
Does anyone have any info on the new models of SMK spring break barrel rifles, namely the XS22 and XS24?. It seems these have possibly replaced the Supergrade 208 series, but I wonder if they are as good?.
SMK needed something new with their own stamp on it to compete with Remington's Express and Sabre. Can't beat a budget belter!.
amazing value
This will take longer to load than a regular break barrel. The only benefit I can see is if when hunting you wanted to take several shots before the bunnies ran away. An underlever might be a good idea though as it would be less fiddly and less likely to chop off your finger tips.
Any way to do a direct comparison to a similar GAMO Swarm?
Very cool rifle...
What is the price
Wow a gamo. Thanks crosman.
I'm sure your hourly rate is much more than that of the electricians, not fair that your are slagging off tradesmen, you are not just paying for his manual labour, you are paying for knowledge.
I love watching your channel and look forward to Friday, I just think this statment is out of order.
You didn’t me the Electrician I used….
@@AAROnairyou're lucky he didn't want that an hour, they're greedy buggers most of em, and getting em to come back and adjust something they did is like waiting for the second coming, with more chance of it happening. 😂
With a cleaned barrel and ran in and using an artillery hold, it should get a better group
According to Crossman web site this gun ia Gasram powered rifle NOT a springer.
cracking gun superb price, im buying one.. nice one andy.😁😁😁😁
Hold your fire.
speed 305 m/sec ?
Would have benefitted from a different colour on the 0 slot of the magazine as an additional reminder not to load a pellet in that slot, especially in low light conditions.
you can literally see the barrel assembly visibly sag or rebound when Andy is hatchet swinging the rifle down onto the rest point.....I mean just remarkable technique there Andy, I didnt realize you were supposed to bash the rifle rest with the gun like it owed you money. Whats the farthest range in yards you usually fire your airguns? Id like to see how you do with that rifle at 70-80yd from the bench or even offhand.
Morning toilet viewing crew!
How did you know?? 😂
A lot of us does it 😅
Same here 😂 cramp the lot😂
@@johnfiore9390 🤣
Dammmm you got a camera in my toilet 😂
a side lever with a mag would be better
That shroud is a bit Gamo, the safety is a bit Gamo, I presume these are all Snowpeak?
Great Price For A Start Up Rifle💷💷👍👍
No mention of the FPS velocity at the beginning. I had to google that info so that I had an idea if it is something I would be looking for.
That’s right, the velocity and power figures are further in the video……
nice gun but looks cartoony with that fat barrel shroud
Secondhand hw99s is a better buy!
Slingshot is very good for the money, then a Crosman 😂
You can buy a new 99S for that money. Then save up for a good scope (if you need to).
Wouldn't trust that loading system to last long. I can think of a great springer for that money that should last a lifetime.
The effort of loading a pellet EVERY TIME !!! oh no !! Exactly how lazy are shooters these days?
the hull cartridges guy on the Weihrauch stand said it best at the british shooting show....pcp's have no soul where even a cheap springer does...i own a hw110 and it's a soulless tool where my Walther springers are the opposite.....
Its pure nostalgia in this day n age to use a single shot, like taking a bow and arrow to a uzi fight lol.
Co2 is my preference, 20 shots a mag, six at the least in a revolver.
But personal choice is what makes the world go round vive la difference.
I'm 66 and loved air rifles as a young lad but now I've discovered co2 in the last 2 years, I'd only have a single shot springer as a wall mounted memory.
I once had a Webley Hawke interchangable barrels 177 & 22 loved it but now l would step straight over it to get to a co2 multi shot. 😂
Thanks for great video! Hope to see rifle in U.S.A.?
That barrel shroud is vomit inducing .
The rifle is cheap so I understand its limitations. I have a break barrel myself. But It rather defeats the object if you have to break the barrel for every shot. If you could do it 10 times then shoot 10 times, that would be useful. The loading of the pellets is really not a big deal.
Thought you said it is a Nitro piston ..
Nice
It made me cringe when you dropped the rifle down onto the tripod. My Umarex break-barrel rifle will shoot low when treated this way. It took me a while to figure out what was going on...
I actually set the rifle down sideways, then turn it to make sure there's no vibration that could move the barrel slightly.
Come on "I'm not a springer shooter" Andy. It's a gas -ram but does shoot more or less like a springer. If your resting the forends, stop using your pcp rest and get a bean bag, even then I'd put my palm on the bean bag and the forend on my palm. Even if you don't use your left hand the bean bag will allow your rifle to recoil as it wants!
Morning Andy and viewers of the channel. I'm currently looking for a nice rifle for pest control with a budget of £500. It will be my first rifle. Can anyone advise on what would be good for the job and my budget? Thank you in advance 😊
Hw 99s and hawke airmax 3-9x40 scope
You will struggle to get a full pcp kit for £500 to include scope, gun & means to re fill the gun. Andy did a review of a gamo kit some time ago for just over £500. If you go springer route agree weirauch 99 with a hawke scope to fit your budget.
HW97K or a HW77K second hand and look up artillery hold if you get a springer
Kral NP02 and sentinel scope
I can’t believe how you slammed that rifle down on the rest after each time you reloaded it I am surprised you got the grouping that you had maybe if you had treated the gun with a little more respect you would’ve got a better group
Sir question,,, How to decock an semi auto or magazined pcp/airgun without detaching the magazine..
And how to cock it with loaded barrel with magazine..
Indo pcp does have that feature.
I like the spec but absolutely dislike those horrible lumpy barrel shrouds.
Nice.
Who do you mean Andy 😁
Morning all
morning
Everything behind the breech looks really nice, everything forward of it looking like some oversized, ugly blob of plastic. I feel that the looks of that part of it are to please the American market, heavily influenced by Gamo. If it had a regular unshrouded barrel I think it would look so much better and I'd think about buying it, but not the way it is.
we all know your not a springer shooter but for us that are, a single shot break barrel rifle is mine and 99% of springer choice over a multi shot break barrel - we are traditionalist
SE YOU NEXT WEEK THEN LOL
I like springers but not this one
👍👍👍👍👍👍
I'd be tempted if it weren't for that ridiculous lump of plastic on the end of the barrel. Why do these companies seem to always do this on budget guns??? Just stop it!
Not for the experienced air rifle shooter. For a beginner, make it sound cool and look cool. Multi shot is a gimmick in not designed well and at a price to reflect it. On a budget rifle, that's a red flag.
I would never touch a Crossman Nitro piston ever again after buying their first iteration. Complete waste of money even for a starter.
Enough said.
8nd!
Twenty twelfth 😂
@@BionicRusty 🥳🏆
What's the point of having a ugly plastic shroud fitted ? There's virtually no noise suppression anyway ! I would have preferred to have seen an optional silencer fitted. Chunky pointless shrouds on a springer as good as this is wrong !