One of the things that got my mind spinning at the possible opportunities was during that Q&A with Todd Howard. He was asked about a unique experience that occurred when he was playtesting and he described a event where he was planetside when an enemy ship landed near him, I imagine this was part of the random events that can take place while exploring like Skyrim and Fallout 4 have. He was fighting the crew and eventually made his way into the ship, the interesting thing was that while fighting on the ship, it actually took off with him inside it. I got several questions from this and then some cool theories of gameplay possibilities. First one up is the fact that if NPC ships can take off from planets and there are loading screens between atmosphere landings/takeoffs into space (and vice versa), will you actually be taken along with the NPCs like a stowaway? If that is true, the NPCs will actually naturally travel if they are in your immediate loaded area, will they eventually land again or will they go into a holding pattern somewhere until you capture the ship? If they are programmed to travel and naturally land somewhere else, could they travel to other planets? Could they travel to other systems? Does their ship gear affect how far they go or is it just a basic range they can go? IF (and that is a big 'if') they can do all these things, you could possibly travel 'some' of the galaxy by becoming the ultimate hitchhiker, whether by stealth or combat. Pirates or friendly factions, get to systems you might not be able to reach early on. I could imagine with cheesing fast travel and your own ship recall mechanics once you get to areas you want to be or get stuck in. Kind of cautiously excited to get more news to see if this theory is right, not a deal breaker if I am wrong but if mods come in the future, that would be pretty fricking awesome.
My guess ( and the highest probability) is that what Todd was describing was part of a scripted quest and not just a regular random event that he might have come upon by chance. There is something similar in Oblivion where you have to sneak on board a boat for a sidequest, but it departs for sea while you are on it. You dont really see the ship sail out, you just get a loading screen, and when you go outside the ship is surrounded by water. This only happens for this quest, and other ships are static in Oblivion, they don't move. My guess is that in starfield enemy Ships wont take off while you're on it, and once they land they become a static part of the environment. It would be awesome if I'm wrong and Starfield has a world and NPCs this organic, but Im trying to tone down the hype before I get disappointed. Don't forget that Todd's still trying to sell you a game by hyping you up, sometimes by not including important details or context.
@@keisir8984 totally agree. He did say it was a random experience that had happened to him and that up until that moment he had no idea that could happen. Would be amazing if enemies could launch their ship into space while you're in it but we'll just have to see if it's true or not
One thing people haven't touched on much.. is the sheer amount of expansions/DLC they could create for us with this as the base game. Lots of potential here if done right.
Not only DLC. Remember that Bethesda is known for giving modding tools for their games and encouraging players to make mods. If Starfield will have the same approach as Skyrim just think about all those insane mods on our way. New weapons, tools, suits, ships, bases, quests maybe even whole planets and star systems - I think this would be awesome.
I'm the opposite opinion about travel time in space. I want there to be travel times. That will give you an opportunity to do things around your ship or interact with the crew. With instant travel times, you'll have to pause what you are doing to interact with your ship/crew. It's something I like to do in SC. I'll get out of my seat and mess around in the ship while in QT. Especially now that I can stack and organize the cargo from salvage missions.
I have to agree on that. For me, when the game allows you to leave the seat and do other stuff, sometimes travelling goes too fast for me. Fast travel will be a good thing for "the grind" but for proplr who like relaxed gameplay and want to do other stuff in the game like in ship stuff, yep I do agree 100%.
I feel like there is a distinct lack of "non-gameplay loop" stuff in game these days. So many games are laser focused on the "loop" that they forget to give us a reason to stay in one area for more than 5 minutes. Or just converse with a random NPC and hear what they have to say. Or really anything that isn't "shoot, loot, repeat". Makes games boring to me. I want a reason to hang out aboard my ship, or in a random space-pub just chatting and having blue colored, alien beer. Fucks sake, even give me a reason to wear casual clothes instead of this bulky space suit.
Todd Howard mentioned that NPC ships can travel while the player is inside when a ship took off from a planet while he was onboard. Potentially, you could sneak onto a ship as a stowaway and it will continue onto its destination. This would would really make sense given the way Bethesda’s worlds typically function.
@@MagnesiumEnterprise yea i was saying before that what Todd was describing was most likely a specific scripted event, and not something that can happen anytime.
@@joshramirez7maybe on playstation lol. on xbox where we are going we will most certainly need loading screens haha hopfully non intrusive ones though.
Don't forget that modders can add space sounds, ships, cities, populated plantes, flora and creatures, items and NPCs with dialogue. There will be SO much that could be done by everyone in 5 years after release that this game will smash anything out there.
I'm sorry but this game is only for Bethesda fans and it won't smash anything at all. It is NOT a real space game. Space is not a backdrop, but just because it was not viable to ship the game with a prerendered backdrop for every single location! So they let your computer render the backgrounds in real time but still YOU CANNOT SEAMLESSLY FLY WHEREVER YOU WANT! They just made a 2010 game with 2023 graphics, so it will be born being already obsolete. Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen are the real space games for the general public. Or even Kerbal Space Program if you are a little bit nerd. The original and the best true space game around there! A game that even teaches you rocket science. No mention to No Man's Sky because that's the kind of game that a child that has only seen space in cartoons would do, LOL.
That's the most interesting thing in my opinion, the insane potential. What I am still curious about is whether the procedural parts are predone on beth's Workstations and inserted as conventional models, or happen in real time like in NMS because if it's the latter that could mean that modders could make an entire new Planet just by tweaking a few variables.
A radial menu to communicate with other starships in space is like a dream come true.... straight out of Elite Dangerous or Freelancer. I'm so excited for Starfield!!!!
I really want to see more of how the transition of flying and EVA/running around works. Not being able to open your ship doors to go outside and hop on an asteroid, or not being able to fly around in the low/upper atmosphere of a planet would be a huge drawback.
I'm also worried about the question raised at 2:45, but if players are allowed to roam freely, this game can provide an impressive space exploration experience similar to the base game of Elite Dangerous or EVE Online, which is impressive given this game is an RPG. Based on the FTL travel showcased so far, it appears to be a direct teleportation from one location to another.
its the perfect IP for adding new worlds, and new civilizations - first contact, wormhole, parasites, doomsday. pick a star trek episode and there's your dlc lol ... ... Tribles!
Doesn't the premium version already have one future dlc included? Shattered Space will be the "first story expansion"... and I'm trying to temper my excitement at what such a title might suggest.
It seems like they've shown a little bit about everything, except free flight on planets or in space. I'm betting you can only teleport, I mean autopilot fly to points-of-interest.
I don't mind not having seamless landings and takeoffs but I hope that each system is fully simulated, meaning you can travel to other planets and map out phenomena such as asteroids without going into a cutscene each time you leave the area surrounding a planet. Seamless flight within system is what I mainly want to see
I wonder if we can be attacked while we are idle in space but not in the captain seat. It would be cool if we are doing something on our ship and suddenly a threat appears. Would be fun trying to get back to our controls to fight off the threat. Or possibly be boarded.
i believe they have said that fuel isnt going to be an issue - its a range limitation not a resource to manage and i am glad for that. just like i am glad it looks like the O2 bar is a stamina bar not a limitation on operation time.
Modding is going to be what sets this game apart and decides its real longevity. I'm already working on preparing assets to port over the ship model of the Normandy... both interior and exterior. Given the limited size of the landing pads I'm thinking that I'll make the shuttle what you actually land then you transition to the full ship in orbit.
2:34 That ship look... i think i will want something similar. Caught my eye. Great video Ant, as always. I also wonder if NPC will be able to board your ship... i mean, hostile NPCs.
They have shown us pretty much everything about space flight and ships. There is no free roam around the system. The "flyable" areas are just around a point of interest, planet, space station etc. You get there by plotting a space route in your map as we see in the video and when you hit "engage" button you will have a little cutscene with the stars around the ship going "white lines" (transition screen) and after that either you wait for some time looking at the map seeing a dot (your ship) moving towards the target or you have a loading screen for a little time where the ship enders the target area automatically dropping out of "FTL" speed. I bet all those areas are very restricted and have boundaries where we get the "return to play area" message if we try to cross.
The modding accessory access on PC/Console should enable a truly epic evolution for this game. This will join the greats in the Hall Of Fame. A rare Epic of a Video Game.
I really do hope that we get a survival mode for Starfield, kinda like what we got for Fallout 4. EVA would be really nice too, though I don't think it'll be in the game on launch. I could imagine Bethesda putting it in an expansion, later on, like how we go customizable homes for Skyrim, with Hearthfire.
How travel is done within a system has been a question in my mind as well, as it clearly wasn't shown at all. I truely hope it is free flight throughout a system. That would be a big detractor for me personally if you couldn't. I'm fine with cut scenes landing on planets. I think the last thing you want to do is put more limitations on space flight.
They have shown us pretty much everything. You plot a route in your space map and then you get a transition screen. My guess is that either we watch the "ship" in the star map or we see the transition screen for a little time and then the ship arrives at the destination. No free roam around the system. Free roam areas will be very restricted around a point of interest with boundaries.
You're gonna be very disappointed. The game clearly is not meant to be a free flight space game like Elite Dangerous. We still yet to see how limited this will be, but i bet tha's gonna be fun anyway.
Seeing the player character sitting in the pilot seat with dual flightstick contols, while all we will have at launch is contoller or mouse and keyboard, leaves me hoping for the modding community.
I feel like I’m gonna jinx the hell out of this game by saying this, but the flight mechanics look pretty cool. Might even replace Freelancer for me if it’s fun enough.
I expect nothing because … Fallout 76… No Man’s Sky (ok now it’s a awesome game)… Cyberpunk 2077… Hyping is almost a dangerous thing at the end. My trend is… wait and see nothing more or less 😊
It seems odds on that we'll be limited to free roaming in local space. The game may let us point and squirt in any direction at a small percentage of warp speed but we'll be naturally deterred by the emptiness of it, instead using it to zip between local structures. All jumps are load screens from one zoned play area to another. Mechanically that describes planet side exploration, so it's a consistent design. From my experience of working with the Creation Engine and how it organizes structurally, that's important.
Looking forward to boarding the other ships. I wonder what the downsides or deterrants to rampant swashbuckling will be. 🤔 Surely we can't just plunder all the things with the greatest of ease.
I reckon just putting the difficulty up should make things alot harder , like killing 4 or 6 people on a small ship might be difficult but achievable but trying to kill 20 or 30 people on a big ship not possible 🤷♂️
ObsidianAnt, could you make a vid on the speculation of “supercruise” flight? I can’t tell through in flight gameplay how the distance is between planet to planet, and it’s also hard to understand how fast we’re moving in “local” space in relative to planets and moons.
I think the player will be able to float about no problem, in zero-G, as we've seen it several times, and they mentioned that when shotting in zero-G, ballistic weapons will push you backwards.
My biggest problem will be trying to build a ship that has the most Lakon feel possible… I love and hate ED… but there’s nothing like sitting in a Lakon seat and just…. be…
There is a skill at the end of the tech tree that may allow for this, we don’t know what it is, so it’s just speculation at this point, but the icon looks like a spacewalk suit.
I noticed 0 gravity 'on foot' combat has everyone orientated the same direction, so seemingly not a full 6 degrees of freedom. I won't be surprised if spaceships follow suit? Though it's more than possible.
Hoping you can own a large ship at some point. Would love to see that, especially when modding hits this game. The Halo, SW, ST, and 40K mods for this are gonna be insane
In the most recent interview w/Todd, he said, "You're landing, exploring somewhere around that landing spot, and then going somewhere else." It seems like we'll land on a specific Point of interest, explore that area while the remaining 98% of each planet will offer little to no content. Also, there won't be in-atmosphere flight. This does not ruin the game for me, but it does keep my hype "in check". Let's not allow our hype to be led by our imaginations, like we did for No Man's Sky.
I think a lot of the spaceship gameplay they showed off doesn't really make sense if Starfield doesn't have it's own version of Supercruise-- basically, a way to have free flying FTL travel within a system. You're right they haven't showed this yet (they've only showed normal "combat speeds" and warping to a new system), so we can't really be sure until we see. I'm very curious about the pace of play they're establishing with the spaceship flying!
I don't think there is actual inter-system or interstellar flight in the game. It's more likely that you just jump to specific POIs then you can explore a great distance around them.
@@spacewombat4569 That may be true! I think some of what they've described and shown doesn't make a lotta sense without in-system FTL travel (ala NMS/Elite/SC) but until we see it I can't assume it's in the game. It wouldn't be a difficult thing for them to actually put in the game, and they've done so many standard 'space game' mechanics thus far. But, who knows!
I'm still not sure we'll be able to free fly around system space. The areas we've seem the ship fly around in seem to me like the signal source arenas in Elite Dangerous. We've seen the galaxy and system maps, but we haven't seen anything in between them, like supercruise. We've seen a ship jumping between systems and they seem to exit the jump in local space around a body, so that's encouraging. Still, I am a still a little nervous about how system space travel will be implemented. I could see a list of potential 'arenas' being added to the system map and you just select one to drop into it.
Yeah, that's my expectation, i.e. that each planet (possibly including its moon/s) will be a "zone" within a system that you can jump to. You can fly around that zone possibly encountering other ships/stations but if you wish to go to another planet within that system it will require a jump to do so, and you will not be able to manually fly between planets.
A thought comes to my mind, if you can board enemy ship, take over and fly it. Who will fly your main ship? Will it be your hired npc or companions? Possibility for multiple ships to fly together?
What I want to know is Can you fly freely through the planets/moons and land anywhere? Similar to No Man’s sky? 7:21 And can you fly from space yourself onto the planet or is it going to be a sort of cutscene from landing and taking off? It’s not a massive deal if so I suppose, just kind of takes away that freedom of exploring everywhere.
What I want to know is Can you fly freely through the planets/moons and land anywhere? Similar to No Man’s sky? And can you fly from space yourself onto the planet or is it going to be a sort of cutscene from landing and taking off? It’s not a massive deal if so I suppose, just kind of takes away that freedom of exploring everywhere.
Some areas looked to be level caped, in one of the earliest videos. As for finding a some thing out in the black. I want to find a space station built around a shipyard.
I havent finished the video so excuse me if it's mentioned but I'd like to point everyone towards this comment that Todd Howard made in the IGN interview saying that it is possible to be fighting a group of bandits on land inside their spaceship and they will lift off into space with you inside still fighting them. that seems amazing to me
I still think that any space game moving forward should be multiplayer. If you give us 100k planets to explore and you cant explore them with a friend then its a pretty lonely ride. Im hopeful that this game is good but im tempering expectations . I learned my lesson when NMS shipped, it was pretty cool landing on the first 30 planets and checking out the local flora and fauna but it was just super empty without anyone else to play with. My thoughts are star field should be a multiplayer game.
I want sliders for difficulty of specific things, such as I want to explore and build, I would hate to be constantly forced into battles. So turn down the frequency of battle encounters, and ability to turn enemy difficulty to minimum so i can pop them and keep exploring, For the people who want fights, they can move the sliders up.
What I really expected to see but didn't was flying your ship near the surface of a planet. It looks as if you pick the landing spot from the UI and your ship lands there. There's no fine control or seamlessness. I feel like that would be real bummer if that's the case.
tbf, I'm not sure how much "realism" you can put to the length of time taken for space flight in space sims. As grav drives/jump drives/etc. are fictitious, if you want the jump to take less time then you could just make your fictitious engine capable of going a bit faster :)
The world I bet in the grand scheme of things will feel quite empty and lacklustre. But fear not, the scheduled DLC’s will fill up the universe pretty quick I bet.
Hoping for HOTAS support but I doubt it. That being said I needed a new controller for my pc anyway so ended up buying the special starfield edition one.
Try "Nebolous Fleet Command". I don't think real newtonian space flight combat will ever make a fun experience. No artficial speed limit would mean HUGE speed differences which makes attacking someone nearly impossible.
I have a low end joystick with throttle but probably won't upgrade to anything else before many reviewers get to test it. Surely BGS aren't only testing it with console controllers though 🤞😬🤞
I am not going to make any assumptions about the game I want to be surprised by it when it releases. Assuming things will be in the game will only lead to disappointment when I find out its not in the game. That being said I am very excited about the game, the entire theme of the game is exactly what I want in a space game.
Bubs, i played from X4 to Empyrion, and recently Spaceborn 2, i'm not easily surprised with this sort of game, not when i was able to own an empire made of ships and space stations that i could visit any time, i made from small fighters to massive carriers in Empyrion BLOCK BY BLOCK, and i do have a lot of dumb fun shooting ships and and people in Spaceborn 2, Bethesda is better give me space Skyrim or i gona get pissed!
I'm afraid we won't be 'supercruise' -ing in System. They've showed only the jump from system to system, or maybe you'll have to jump from a planet to planet and that's it. But that would be dumb. I wouldn't be mad if they'd make it like in Everspace 2, where you can't jump out everywhere only when something pops up on your radar ( POI, Mission, Help ) but if you'll jump from one planet to another with that animation, the exploration will be gone.
The showcase of the FTL jumps also worries me, but I can't imagine why they would remove free-roaming (if that's indeed the case). This feature has been a part of space sims for decades, like EVE Online and Elite Dangerous. It's unlikely to be due to technical issues.
@@leocrazy37 I wasn't like 'hyped' for this game but i was excited to finaly got something new and from the teasers it looked good. However, as we progress and we see more and more from the game, i'm kinda loosing interest. The fact we can't land on planets, can't fly in atmosphere, probably the place we land will be limited, probably no 'supercruise' in space and these small things are slowly making my interest fall. Probably it'll be a fantastic game for a lot of gamers, but those who are looking for a open game like SC or Elite but better, won't be satisfied :( But this is only my opinion, noone have to accept it :) i just feel this
@@K-PopGamesWithSoulMirae Fair enough, everyone has their own taste in game types. Personally, I feel that as long as this game offers supercruise, we can expect to have a last-gen space sim experience (like EVE Online, which doesn't support landing) along with a Fallout 4 RPG experience. In that case, I can't say this game is bad, especially since it's not a dedicated space sim. For me, the supercruise is thus really important.
@@leocrazy37 yeah, i'm not saying it'll be bad, but as you said, the cruising in the system is MUST for me! Amongst all current space games i've played...EVERSPACE 2's FTL is by far the best! It looks good, and you feel the 'fast' xD it's my favorite!
So no mans sky 2016 PS4 you can land on a planet and take off. Starfield roughly 8 year on next gen Console, no too hard impossible. WTF is the point of the spaceships if you can land and take off and you can't really fly them.
I hope it's worth the new rig I'm building for it. The new rig is long overdue, anyway, but that's because of the graphics card drought making me lose all interest for a few years.
I'm hoping that when traveling through a system on your 1st visit it will take time to get to one place, with some unexpected encounters. 😁 On the 2nd visit to the same system, you can fast travel or proceed like the 1st visit with encounters. 😉 I just hope this won't be another cyberpunk 2077. 🤞
Hate to kill your buzz bro, but BGS practically invented the developer redemption arc. Every single open world game has had an infamously rocky launch. In Skyrim my very first encounter with Alduin resulted in a repeatable crash and I couldn't get past the prologue. That was after the rolling and tumbling cart ride to Helgen. It's not a meme to say it's customers are also it's co-developers. Daggerfall doesn't particularly stand out in my memory, but only because PC gaming in those days was already like trying to herd cats.
I hope this game kills all other space games. I'm glad it's not completely arkady, but not difficult as well so we can just casually have fun with a controller. I definitely plan to make some sort of police/arrest mod for bounties!
the interesting thing about Starfield for me, and why I'm looking forward to it, I'm rather hoping to see how it compares to Star Citizen. I'm frankly keeping my fingers crossed they deliver on every promise made, and on a few promises they haven't made. while Star Citizen might be a tad more involved, it's more the principle of "this is how you deliver a space game" at work that's interesting. As far as I know Starfield has spent far less time than Star Citizen being developed, and if all goes well (big if, knowing Bethesda's reputation for launchday bugs...), this game can be a gigantic "get bent, bitch!" towards Cloud Imperium Games, with a hopefulle added effect of them finally pushing that game into Beta, if only to pick up a gauntlet thrown down.
Think it will get boring after 6 months unless they have installed some great shoot out's , fighting gun fights so to speak , also they better it where you have like 5 or 6 different ways when fighting, it will be so repetitive once you are fully upgraded on your ship, crew, armor, guns and base and equipment
ED's development started in 2014; Starfield in 2016. Given all the horrendous buggy updates and dropping of multiple announced features and platforms including Mac and Consoles, the later IMHO has firmly had its day. Starfield looks to avoid the mile-wide-inch-deep problem of ED with a more focused universe (granted, it is a single player RPG). I look forward to _considering_ purchasing Starfield shortly after launch when independent reviews like OA's are in. I'm truly hoping that Bethesda don't do another "Fallout 76" as the effort for a genre I love would have been truly wasted.
@@ethzero ED engine was never made for space legs, it was made for macro scale and able to run well in very modest hardware. Space legs was ALWAYS a bad idea for ED and it ruined the game because people couldn't shut up about it and insisted on having it do what it could never do properly.
The one thing im still confused about is can we do surface flying on a planet? Like can I land on a planet and then fly to the nearby mountain? Or do low flying like I do in Star Citizen? Or will the actual flying only take place in space? Im having trouble finding confirmation on this. Does anyone have the answer or source
It's been talked about and confirmed that there will be no low atmosphere flying. The ship is only to land and take off from the planet into space. You can select another area of the planet to land when in space, though, but still not ideal for exploration.
i dont think we will have free flight between planets in a system - I think we will select on a screen where to goto within the system itself - just like on a planet we wont be able to fly across the landscape and goto other locations we will have to leave the planet via the cutscene and got back down somwhere else
One of the things that got my mind spinning at the possible opportunities was during that Q&A with Todd Howard. He was asked about a unique experience that occurred when he was playtesting and he described a event where he was planetside when an enemy ship landed near him, I imagine this was part of the random events that can take place while exploring like Skyrim and Fallout 4 have. He was fighting the crew and eventually made his way into the ship, the interesting thing was that while fighting on the ship, it actually took off with him inside it.
I got several questions from this and then some cool theories of gameplay possibilities. First one up is the fact that if NPC ships can take off from planets and there are loading screens between atmosphere landings/takeoffs into space (and vice versa), will you actually be taken along with the NPCs like a stowaway? If that is true, the NPCs will actually naturally travel if they are in your immediate loaded area, will they eventually land again or will they go into a holding pattern somewhere until you capture the ship? If they are programmed to travel and naturally land somewhere else, could they travel to other planets? Could they travel to other systems? Does their ship gear affect how far they go or is it just a basic range they can go?
IF (and that is a big 'if') they can do all these things, you could possibly travel 'some' of the galaxy by becoming the ultimate hitchhiker, whether by stealth or combat. Pirates or friendly factions, get to systems you might not be able to reach early on. I could imagine with cheesing fast travel and your own ship recall mechanics once you get to areas you want to be or get stuck in. Kind of cautiously excited to get more news to see if this theory is right, not a deal breaker if I am wrong but if mods come in the future, that would be pretty fricking awesome.
Sound awesome but what if the pirate ship got attack by space police and the ship explode, I guess you die along with the pirates haha.
My guess ( and the highest probability) is that what Todd was describing was part of a scripted quest and not just a regular random event that he might have come upon by chance. There is something similar in Oblivion where you have to sneak on board a boat for a sidequest, but it departs for sea while you are on it. You dont really see the ship sail out, you just get a loading screen, and when you go outside the ship is surrounded by water. This only happens for this quest, and other ships are static in Oblivion, they don't move. My guess is that in starfield enemy Ships wont take off while you're on it, and once they land they become a static part of the environment. It would be awesome if I'm wrong and Starfield has a world and NPCs this organic, but Im trying to tone down the hype before I get disappointed. Don't forget that Todd's still trying to sell you a game by hyping you up, sometimes by not including important details or context.
@@keisir8984 totally agree. He did say it was a random experience that had happened to him and that up until that moment he had no idea that could happen. Would be amazing if enemies could launch their ship into space while you're in it but we'll just have to see if it's true or not
@@cashuflakbreakdancereither that or it taking off was a bug
Random event
Hell yes. I've been following you for a long time from ED. I hope you get a big push from this release. GLHF.
One thing people haven't touched on much.. is the sheer amount of expansions/DLC they could create for us with this as the base game. Lots of potential here if done right.
Not only DLC. Remember that Bethesda is known for giving modding tools for their games and encouraging players to make mods. If Starfield will have the same approach as Skyrim just think about all those insane mods on our way. New weapons, tools, suits, ships, bases, quests maybe even whole planets and star systems - I think this would be awesome.
I'm the opposite opinion about travel time in space.
I want there to be travel times. That will give you an opportunity to do things around your ship or interact with the crew.
With instant travel times, you'll have to pause what you are doing to interact with your ship/crew.
It's something I like to do in SC. I'll get out of my seat and mess around in the ship while in QT. Especially now that I can stack and organize the cargo from salvage missions.
I have to agree on that. For me, when the game allows you to leave the seat and do other stuff, sometimes travelling goes too fast for me. Fast travel will be a good thing for "the grind" but for proplr who like relaxed gameplay and want to do other stuff in the game like in ship stuff, yep I do agree 100%.
The option would be great
@@MagnesiumEnterprise I can get behind that.
I feel like there is a distinct lack of "non-gameplay loop" stuff in game these days. So many games are laser focused on the "loop" that they forget to give us a reason to stay in one area for more than 5 minutes. Or just converse with a random NPC and hear what they have to say. Or really anything that isn't "shoot, loot, repeat". Makes games boring to me. I want a reason to hang out aboard my ship, or in a random space-pub just chatting and having blue colored, alien beer. Fucks sake, even give me a reason to wear casual clothes instead of this bulky space suit.
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Todd Howard mentioned that NPC ships can travel while the player is inside when a ship took off from a planet while he was onboard. Potentially, you could sneak onto a ship as a stowaway and it will continue onto its destination. This would would really make sense given the way Bethesda’s worlds typically function.
That sounds so cool I wonder how the loading screen will work hopefully seamless cutscenes keeping my expectations in check though 😱
It may not work like that. Enemy ships may not travel through load screens; and even if they do, they may not travel with you.
@@MagnesiumEnterprise yea i was saying before that what Todd was describing was most likely a specific scripted event, and not something that can happen anytime.
@@MagnesiumEnterprise Loading screens? Where we are going, we won't need loading screens.
@@joshramirez7maybe on playstation lol. on xbox where we are going we will most certainly need loading screens haha hopfully non intrusive ones though.
Don't forget that modders can add space sounds, ships, cities, populated plantes, flora and creatures, items and NPCs with dialogue. There will be SO much that could be done by everyone in 5 years after release that this game will smash anything out there.
Honestly, That's what I'm looking forward to the most. Cracking open the new Creator Kit 6Mo post launch :D
Yeah I'm looking forward to the Star Wars or Star Trek mods that will change the whole game 😂
I'm sorry but this game is only for Bethesda fans and it won't smash anything at all. It is NOT a real space game. Space is not a backdrop, but just because it was not viable to ship the game with a prerendered backdrop for every single location! So they let your computer render the backgrounds in real time but still YOU CANNOT SEAMLESSLY FLY WHEREVER YOU WANT! They just made a 2010 game with 2023 graphics, so it will be born being already obsolete. Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen are the real space games for the general public. Or even Kerbal Space Program if you are a little bit nerd. The original and the best true space game around there! A game that even teaches you rocket science. No mention to No Man's Sky because that's the kind of game that a child that has only seen space in cartoons would do, LOL.
That's the most interesting thing in my opinion, the insane potential.
What I am still curious about is whether the procedural parts are predone on beth's Workstations and inserted as conventional models, or happen in real time like in NMS because if it's the latter that could mean that modders could make an entire new Planet just by tweaking a few variables.
@@vistaero Damn someone piss in your cereal man?
A radial menu to communicate with other starships in space is like a dream come true.... straight out of Elite Dangerous or Freelancer. I'm so excited for Starfield!!!!
I really want to see more of how the transition of flying and EVA/running around works. Not being able to open your ship doors to go outside and hop on an asteroid, or not being able to fly around in the low/upper atmosphere of a planet would be a huge drawback.
Agreed. That's basically my concern
90% chance there’s none of that
I'm also worried about the question raised at 2:45, but if players are allowed to roam freely, this game can provide an impressive space exploration experience similar to the base game of Elite Dangerous or EVE Online, which is impressive given this game is an RPG. Based on the FTL travel showcased so far, it appears to be a direct teleportation from one location to another.
I hope Bethesda will add new spectacular locations, like full cities, to this universe, in the future.
its the perfect IP for adding new worlds, and new civilizations - first contact, wormhole, parasites, doomsday. pick a star trek episode and there's your dlc lol
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Tribles!
Stay tuned in the coming years for DLC’s that will fill the majority of what’s missing at launch
@@MrSladej It shows the sad state of big budget gaming that I can't even take that as a joke anymore because far too often it's true.
modders will indeed.
Doesn't the premium version already have one future dlc included? Shattered Space will be the "first story expansion"... and I'm trying to temper my excitement at what such a title might suggest.
It seems like they've shown a little bit about everything, except free flight on planets or in space. I'm betting you can only teleport, I mean autopilot fly to points-of-interest.
I don't mind not having seamless landings and takeoffs but I hope that each system is fully simulated, meaning you can travel to other planets and map out phenomena such as asteroids without going into a cutscene each time you leave the area surrounding a planet. Seamless flight within system is what I mainly want to see
No reason why not, if you can see something in a Bethesda game you can usually travel to it in realtime.
Imagine finding a wormhole, then fly through it, and crash land on a planet that turned out to be Skyrim.
or ES 6 :O
“Ahh, you’re awake”
All this looks truly amazing! Thanks OA!!
I wonder if we can be attacked while we are idle in space but not in the captain seat. It would be cool if we are doing something on our ship and suddenly a threat appears. Would be fun trying to get back to our controls to fight off the threat. Or possibly be boarded.
i believe they have said that fuel isnt going to be an issue - its a range limitation not a resource to manage and i am glad for that. just like i am glad it looks like the O2 bar is a stamina bar not a limitation on operation time.
Modding is going to be what sets this game apart and decides its real longevity.
I'm already working on preparing assets to port over the ship model of the Normandy... both interior and exterior. Given the limited size of the landing pads I'm thinking that I'll make the shuttle what you actually land then you transition to the full ship in orbit.
2:34 That ship look... i think i will want something similar. Caught my eye. Great video Ant, as always. I also wonder if NPC will be able to board your ship... i mean, hostile NPCs.
They have shown us pretty much everything about space flight and ships.
There is no free roam around the system.
The "flyable" areas are just around a point of interest, planet, space station etc. You get there by plotting a space route in your map as we see in the video and when you hit "engage" button you will have a little cutscene with the stars around the ship going "white lines" (transition screen) and after that either you wait for some time looking at the map seeing a dot (your ship) moving towards the target or you have a loading screen for a little time where the ship enders the target area automatically dropping out of "FTL" speed.
I bet all those areas are very restricted and have boundaries where we get the "return to play area" message if we try to cross.
The modding accessory access on PC/Console should enable a truly epic evolution for this game. This will join the greats in the Hall Of Fame. A rare Epic of a Video Game.
lets wait n see, they didnt explain if it will be money gated again like they tried with the creation club
Can't wait! Kind of brings to mind the old table top rpg Traveler.
I really do hope that we get a survival mode for Starfield, kinda like what we got for Fallout 4.
EVA would be really nice too, though I don't think it'll be in the game on launch. I could imagine Bethesda putting it in an expansion, later on, like how we go customizable homes for Skyrim, with Hearthfire.
That would be amazing
Gonna try & create Serenity & channel my inner malcolm reynolds for this game!
How travel is done within a system has been a question in my mind as well, as it clearly wasn't shown at all. I truely hope it is free flight throughout a system. That would be a big detractor for me personally if you couldn't. I'm fine with cut scenes landing on planets. I think the last thing you want to do is put more limitations on space flight.
They have shown us pretty much everything.
You plot a route in your space map and then you get a transition screen.
My guess is that either we watch the "ship" in the star map or we see the transition screen for a little time and then the ship arrives at the destination.
No free roam around the system.
Free roam areas will be very restricted around a point of interest with boundaries.
You're gonna be very disappointed. The game clearly is not meant to be a free flight space game like Elite Dangerous. We still yet to see how limited this will be, but i bet tha's gonna be fun anyway.
Seeing the player character sitting in the pilot seat with dual flightstick contols, while all we will have at launch is contoller or mouse and keyboard, leaves me hoping for the modding community.
I really hope we can do EVA's outside of our ships while in space. That would be awesome!
I feel like I’m gonna jinx the hell out of this game by saying this, but the flight mechanics look pretty cool. Might even replace Freelancer for me if it’s fun enough.
I wouldn't classify it as hyped, but I am definitely looking forward to this title.
"Do you get to the Cloud City very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't!" :)
I’d love for them to add rotating wings, although I don’t think they’ll think about that. Two words.
Stinger Mantis.
Oh and Drake Corsair for sure
Thanks for the video.
I expect nothing because … Fallout 76… No Man’s Sky (ok now it’s a awesome game)… Cyberpunk 2077…
Hyping is almost a dangerous thing at the end.
My trend is… wait and see nothing more or less 😊
Can't wait for Elite's Update Starfield in September. ❤
It seems odds on that we'll be limited to free roaming in local space. The game may let us point and squirt in any direction at a small percentage of warp speed but we'll be naturally deterred by the emptiness of it, instead using it to zip between local structures. All jumps are load screens from one zoned play area to another. Mechanically that describes planet side exploration, so it's a consistent design. From my experience of working with the Creation Engine and how it organizes structurally, that's important.
Looking forward to boarding the other ships. I wonder what the downsides or deterrants to rampant swashbuckling will be. 🤔 Surely we can't just plunder all the things with the greatest of ease.
Considering stealth and stealing in Skyrim, it might be easily cheeseable
I reckon just putting the difficulty up should make things alot harder , like killing 4 or 6 people on a small ship might be difficult but achievable but trying to kill 20 or 30 people on a big ship not possible 🤷♂️
ObsidianAnt, could you make a vid on the speculation of “supercruise” flight? I can’t tell through in flight gameplay how the distance is between planet to planet, and it’s also hard to understand how fast we’re moving in “local” space in relative to planets and moons.
I think the player will be able to float about no problem, in zero-G, as we've seen it several times, and they mentioned that when shotting in zero-G, ballistic weapons will push you backwards.
he's talking about EVA gameplay, meaning get out of your ship and float freely like you do in star citizen and a handful of other games.
My biggest problem will be trying to build a ship that has the most Lakon feel possible… I love and hate ED… but there’s nothing like sitting in a Lakon seat and just…. be…
Since the showcase I can't stop thinking about this game, this is the game I've always wanted since I was a kid.
There is a skill at the end of the tech tree that may allow for this, we don’t know what it is, so it’s just speculation at this point, but the icon looks like a spacewalk suit.
I noticed 0 gravity 'on foot' combat has everyone orientated the same direction, so seemingly not a full 6 degrees of freedom. I won't be surprised if spaceships follow suit? Though it's more than possible.
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For a Diamondback Explorer
Slugcat.
A lot of memories in the asp explorer. It's easily my favorite ship.
Rattaluga. I hope there'll be a Fuel Rats mod.
Hoping you can own a large ship at some point. Would love to see that, especially when modding hits this game. The Halo, SW, ST, and 40K mods for this are gonna be insane
I’m looking forward to 40k mods in particular.
The zero g element or the switching between gravity and no gravity is a neat way to make level design have more options
In the most recent interview w/Todd, he said, "You're landing, exploring somewhere around that landing spot, and then going somewhere else." It seems like we'll land on a specific Point of interest, explore that area while the remaining 98% of each planet will offer little to no content. Also, there won't be in-atmosphere flight. This does not ruin the game for me, but it does keep my hype "in check". Let's not allow our hype to be led by our imaginations, like we did for No Man's Sky.
I think a lot of the spaceship gameplay they showed off doesn't really make sense if Starfield doesn't have it's own version of Supercruise-- basically, a way to have free flying FTL travel within a system. You're right they haven't showed this yet (they've only showed normal "combat speeds" and warping to a new system), so we can't really be sure until we see. I'm very curious about the pace of play they're establishing with the spaceship flying!
I don't think there is actual inter-system or interstellar flight in the game. It's more likely that you just jump to specific POIs then you can explore a great distance around them.
@@spacewombat4569 That may be true! I think some of what they've described and shown doesn't make a lotta sense without in-system FTL travel (ala NMS/Elite/SC) but until we see it I can't assume it's in the game.
It wouldn't be a difficult thing for them to actually put in the game, and they've done so many standard 'space game' mechanics thus far. But, who knows!
I'm still not sure we'll be able to free fly around system space.
The areas we've seem the ship fly around in seem to me like the signal source arenas in Elite Dangerous. We've seen the galaxy and system maps, but we haven't seen anything in between them, like supercruise. We've seen a ship jumping between systems and they seem to exit the jump in local space around a body, so that's encouraging.
Still, I am a still a little nervous about how system space travel will be implemented. I could see a list of potential 'arenas' being added to the system map and you just select one to drop into it.
Yeah, that's my expectation, i.e. that each planet (possibly including its moon/s) will be a "zone" within a system that you can jump to. You can fly around that zone possibly encountering other ships/stations but if you wish to go to another planet within that system it will require a jump to do so, and you will not be able to manually fly between planets.
A thought comes to my mind, if you can board enemy ship, take over and fly it. Who will fly your main ship? Will it be your hired npc or companions?
Possibility for multiple ships to fly together?
I presume Vasco or someone on your ship will be able to fly it.
What I want to know is
Can you fly freely through the planets/moons and land anywhere? Similar to No Man’s sky?
7:21 And can you fly from space yourself onto the planet or is it going to be a sort of cutscene from landing and taking off?
It’s not a massive deal if so I suppose, just kind of takes away that freedom of exploring everywhere.
What I want to know is
Can you fly freely through the planets/moons and land anywhere? Similar to No Man’s sky?
And can you fly from space yourself onto the planet or is it going to be a sort of cutscene from landing and taking off?
It’s not a massive deal if so I suppose, just kind of takes away that freedom of exploring everywhere.
No you can’t do any of that :/
Hoping mods will give us proper sim flight
Some areas looked to be level caped, in one of the earliest videos. As for finding a some thing out in the black. I want to find a space station built around a shipyard.
It's an RPG. The whole point of them is to level up.
I havent finished the video so excuse me if it's mentioned but I'd like to point everyone towards this comment that Todd Howard made in the IGN interview saying that it is possible to be fighting a group of bandits on land inside their spaceship and they will lift off into space with you inside still fighting them. that seems amazing to me
Enbies you are valid and awesome.
I still think that any space game moving forward should be multiplayer. If you give us 100k planets to explore and you cant explore them with a friend then its a pretty lonely ride. Im hopeful that this game is good but im tempering expectations . I learned my lesson when NMS shipped, it was pretty cool landing on the first 30 planets and checking out the local flora and fauna but it was just super empty without anyone else to play with.
My thoughts are star field should be a multiplayer game.
I remember the pain of having to wait 30 mins traveling to certain places in elite dangerous
Mind blown.
I want sliders for difficulty of specific things, such as I want to explore and build, I would hate to be constantly forced into battles. So turn down the frequency of battle encounters, and ability to turn enemy difficulty to minimum so i can pop them and keep exploring, For the people who want fights, they can move the sliders up.
The only other game I know off hand that allows you to dock and explore other ships in space in an exploration type manner is Empyrion
What I really expected to see but didn't was flying your ship near the surface of a planet. It looks as if you pick the landing spot from the UI and your ship lands there. There's no fine control or seamlessness. I feel like that would be real bummer if that's the case.
tbf, I'm not sure how much "realism" you can put to the length of time taken for space flight in space sims. As grav drives/jump drives/etc. are fictitious, if you want the jump to take less time then you could just make your fictitious engine capable of going a bit faster :)
The world I bet in the grand scheme of things will feel quite empty and lacklustre. But fear not, the scheduled DLC’s will fill up the universe pretty quick I bet.
Choo choo said the hype train before it derailed and crashed.....
Can we flight around on the planets surface? Or are they only explorable by feet?
No, and yes by foot
2:03 that short snippet looks like Zero G EVA to me!
Hoping for HOTAS support but I doubt it. That being said I needed a new controller for my pc anyway so ended up buying the special starfield edition one.
I wonder if realistic space combat (I use The Expanse for reference) can be made fun in a video game.
Try "Nebolous Fleet Command".
I don't think real newtonian space flight combat will ever make a fun experience. No artficial speed limit would mean HUGE speed differences which makes attacking someone nearly impossible.
yep one pass only as turning circle and resource use is prohibitive..and it all happens in milliseconds
So basically it would be a more complicated version of a jousting video game... Are there many jousting video games?
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Nobody talking about HOTAS support? It's a freakin space game, comon.
Didn’t know David Attenborough started gaming 💀
Not keen on loading screens for landing on planets to not be able to fly around the atmosphere seems alittle odd
Hopefully Space Walks will be DLC.
Anyone gonna use a HOTAS or HOSAS for Starfield? I’m thinking about splurging on a VKB setup for this game.
I have a low end joystick with throttle but probably won't upgrade to anything else before many reviewers get to test it. Surely BGS aren't only testing it with console controllers though 🤞😬🤞
I'm kinda excited to crawl across the galaxy building a trade empire
Happy Beth seem to have dropped the player being voiced with a wheel as in FO4, and have gone for the TES/FO3 style dialogue system.
I am not going to make any assumptions about the game I want to be surprised by it when it releases. Assuming things will be in the game will only lead to disappointment when I find out its not in the game. That being said I am very excited about the game, the entire theme of the game is exactly what I want in a space game.
The best voice in the history of sifi
My main thought is will it be turtle beach velocity one stick compatible.
Bubs, i played from X4 to Empyrion, and recently Spaceborn 2, i'm not easily surprised with this sort of game, not when i was able to own an empire made of ships and space stations that i could visit any time, i made from small fighters to massive carriers in Empyrion BLOCK BY BLOCK, and i do have a lot of dumb fun shooting ships and and people in Spaceborn 2, Bethesda is better give me space Skyrim or i gona get pissed!
I'm afraid we won't be 'supercruise' -ing in System. They've showed only the jump from system to system, or maybe you'll have to jump from a planet to planet and that's it. But that would be dumb. I wouldn't be mad if they'd make it like in Everspace 2, where you can't jump out everywhere only when something pops up on your radar ( POI, Mission, Help ) but if you'll jump from one planet to another with that animation, the exploration will be gone.
The showcase of the FTL jumps also worries me, but I can't imagine why they would remove free-roaming (if that's indeed the case). This feature has been a part of space sims for decades, like EVE Online and Elite Dangerous. It's unlikely to be due to technical issues.
@@leocrazy37 I wasn't like 'hyped' for this game but i was excited to finaly got something new and from the teasers it looked good. However, as we progress and we see more and more from the game, i'm kinda loosing interest. The fact we can't land on planets, can't fly in atmosphere, probably the place we land will be limited, probably no 'supercruise' in space and these small things are slowly making my interest fall. Probably it'll be a fantastic game for a lot of gamers, but those who are looking for a open game like SC or Elite but better, won't be satisfied :( But this is only my opinion, noone have to accept it :) i just feel this
@@K-PopGamesWithSoulMirae Fair enough, everyone has their own taste in game types. Personally, I feel that as long as this game offers supercruise, we can expect to have a last-gen space sim experience (like EVE Online, which doesn't support landing) along with a Fallout 4 RPG experience. In that case, I can't say this game is bad, especially since it's not a dedicated space sim. For me, the supercruise is thus really important.
@@leocrazy37 yeah, i'm not saying it'll be bad, but as you said, the cruising in the system is MUST for me!
Amongst all current space games i've played...EVERSPACE 2's FTL is by far the best! It looks good, and you feel the 'fast' xD it's my favorite!
Thanks for the video. I'll stick with Spacebourne 2.
Can you physically fly between planets?
how many worlds be in game i am looking forward getting it
Bethesda! Please don't fuck this up!!!!
Place your bets : )
@@DeanCalaway I am wondering how many of us will cave, and pre-order.
So no mans sky 2016 PS4 you can land on a planet and take off. Starfield roughly 8 year on next gen Console, no too hard impossible.
WTF is the point of the spaceships if you can land and take off and you can't really fly them.
I hope it's worth the new rig I'm building for it. The new rig is long overdue, anyway, but that's because of the graphics card drought making me lose all interest for a few years.
I'm hoping that when traveling through a system on your 1st visit it will take time to get to one place, with some unexpected encounters. 😁
On the 2nd visit to the same system, you can fast travel or proceed like the 1st visit with encounters. 😉
I just hope this won't be another cyberpunk 2077. 🤞
Hate to kill your buzz bro, but BGS practically invented the developer redemption arc. Every single open world game has had an infamously rocky launch. In Skyrim my very first encounter with Alduin resulted in a repeatable crash and I couldn't get past the prologue. That was after the rolling and tumbling cart ride to Helgen. It's not a meme to say it's customers are also it's co-developers. Daggerfall doesn't particularly stand out in my memory, but only because PC gaming in those days was already like trying to herd cats.
I hope this game kills all other space games. I'm glad it's not completely arkady, but not difficult as well so we can just casually have fun with a controller. I definitely plan to make some sort of police/arrest mod for bounties!
im wondering if there will be 6dof or just 3. so, strafing side to side/up and down. so far i dont think ive seen any. disappointing, if so.
Gonna remake my ED ships in this game.
Also, there will absolutely be mods to change the flight model.
the interesting thing about Starfield for me, and why I'm looking forward to it, I'm rather hoping to see how it compares to Star Citizen. I'm frankly keeping my fingers crossed they deliver on every promise made, and on a few promises they haven't made. while Star Citizen might be a tad more involved, it's more the principle of "this is how you deliver a space game" at work that's interesting. As far as I know Starfield has spent far less time than Star Citizen being developed, and if all goes well (big if, knowing Bethesda's reputation for launchday bugs...), this game can be a gigantic "get bent, bitch!" towards Cloud Imperium Games, with a hopefulle added effect of them finally pushing that game into Beta, if only to pick up a gauntlet thrown down.
Much as it pains me to say it, those two games most likely will never compare, either in good or bad
Some moments in the game look very strange. Astronauts sit in spacesuits in a bar???
inertia damper control would be amazing
It's an RPG not a sim
Think it will get boring after 6 months unless they have installed some great shoot out's , fighting gun fights so to speak , also they better it where you have like 5 or 6 different ways when fighting, it will be so repetitive once you are fully upgraded on your ship, crew, armor, guns and base and equipment
Im just hoping this has HOTAS/HOSAS support.
will games like Elite Dangerous try to catch up I wonder...
With their current engine i doubt it also they take ages just to implement simple stuff
ED's development started in 2014; Starfield in 2016. Given all the horrendous buggy updates and dropping of multiple announced features and platforms including Mac and Consoles, the later IMHO has firmly had its day.
Starfield looks to avoid the mile-wide-inch-deep problem of ED with a more focused universe (granted, it is a single player RPG).
I look forward to _considering_ purchasing Starfield shortly after launch when independent reviews like OA's are in. I'm truly hoping that Bethesda don't do another "Fallout 76" as the effort for a genre I love would have been truly wasted.
@@ethzero You are effing clueless. ED was released in 2014 and is now in it's 9th year.
@@ethzero ED engine was never made for space legs, it was made for macro scale and able to run well in very modest hardware.
Space legs was ALWAYS a bad idea for ED and it ruined the game because people couldn't shut up about it and insisted on having it do what it could never do properly.
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How much freedom will we get in space flight ?
The one thing im still confused about is can we do surface flying on a planet? Like can I land on a planet and then fly to the nearby mountain? Or do low flying like I do in Star Citizen? Or will the actual flying only take place in space? Im having trouble finding confirmation on this. Does anyone have the answer or source
It's been talked about and confirmed that there will be no low atmosphere flying. The ship is only to land and take off from the planet into space. You can select another area of the planet to land when in space, though, but still not ideal for exploration.
i dont think we will have free flight between planets in a system - I think we will select on a screen where to goto within the system itself - just like on a planet we wont be able to fly across the landscape and goto other locations we will have to leave the planet via the cutscene and got back down somwhere else
This looks pretty close to Star Citizen only singleplayer lol