Frua did the body work. Rebuilding a unibody Senator with IRS and recirculating ball steering, and an engine heavier than a 350 Chev with 110 cubic inches less...priceless....
I got to know the Bitter as a proper classic after one showed up here on the east coast at a car show. I was really impressed by it. It looked really cool and I had no idea of its performance. Now that I know how fast it is. Well it still looks nice.
@@Backroad_Junkie The difference is that DMC is still in business and selling parts, with a Bitter you're stuck with needing a collection of parts cars...
There is a Bitter fan in town, (believe it or not) has three of the things, and is planning an engine swap in one of them. Has it down to an LS3 or a Coyote, hasn't made up his mind yet. Either would be good, though the Coyote seems like it would fit the perceived exotic nature of the car a bit better. A Better Bitter.
here in the uk my brother and i raced an opel monza gsi a coupe a version of what lies under the bitter and could just about keep up with the bmw m3s of the time so dont give the bitter a hard time with a bit of finessing i am sure it could come to "dominate"!
Awesome! The Monzas made great race cars and they looked epic. Although the Monza/Senator platform is probably best compared to the first generation BMW 5 (E12) and 6 series (E24). Very similar suspension and drivetrain, especially with the fuel-injected 3-liter straight six that's in the GSI and the Bitter. Really not a bad platform, just a wee bit underpowered in Lemons these days, especially with the 3-speed slushbox 😂
@@bitterlemon6465 luckily ours was equipped with the bulletproof dog leg 1st getrag 5 speed manual so maybe a swap with one of those might give ze bitter a leg up well that and a shed load of irmscher tuning bits!
@@MrGaryjames1 yes, that would be in the books if we were in Europe. Over here in the States, where no other Monza/Senator platform car other than the Bitter was ever sold, manual parts are rare as hen's teeth. We had to bring loads of parts back from European vacation in our suitcases! Including brake discs lol. Methinks that when the time comes to upgrade the gearbox, the venerable Opel 3 liter will make room for something more powerful at the same time, solving two problems in one go.
@@bitterlemon6465 but why u ruin classic man te he best if luck chaps one day I will make it to a round and will come and drink rakes of warm British ale with you and I shall recount of how much of a great racing driver I once was! Be lucky!
The Bitter looks like a mix of that Ferrari you were talking about, and a 2nd gen Supra. Also worth noting about the price of this, thing, it's more expensive than most BMWs, most Mercedes at the time (Let me remind you the reason you can't import a car under 25 years old is because Mercedes people were importing their cars because it was cheaper) all Cadillacs, all Lincolns, it's on par with Rolls Royce at the time, and it runs like a German Made piece of crap car of the time
Wonder if this shares much of the engine architecture of the Opel Omega. I'd imagine grafting on a 24 valve head & the twin turbos from a wrecked lotus carlton or if some turbo model from opel had that as well. Would make this thing scoot along pretty well as the top range Lotus Carlton made 382 hp at the crank & that car is heavier then the bitter sc by i think 160 kg.
Yeah, that 24V motor from the Omega/Carlton is the last iteration of the motor that's in the Bitter. Technically it would fit 🤔. Not sure it would be a wise choice for endurance racing. 😂
I'm hoping someone races this Russian super car. A driving one exists in the UK. " Norwich Union super car 1989 (OLD Adverts) on the channel " 2ombieboy's VHS Vault " See also: Mirov 2 Worlds First Russain Supercar! Norwich Union Ad " on the channel " Zain Venturi "
From Not THAT Dean. Well, they race Maserati Quattroportes....so why not an October fest Bitter. Alexi Sayle said....like a Pint of Bitter. Elo John Gotta New Mota...
I'm hoping someone races this Russian super car. A driving one exists in the UK. " Norwich Union super car 1989 (OLD Adverts) on the channel " 2ombieboy's VHS Vault " See also: Mirov 2 Worlds First Russain Supercar! Norwich Union Ad " on the channel " Zain Venturi "
Being 1 who has owned a bitter I can say for all wanting to know The bitter will make you a bitter person 😂🤣 Smells..bitter Runs..bitter Shifts..bitter Will make your car hating wife....bitter 🤣😂 This car is so bitter your wife will disappear faster then the kalua cake in a AA meeting You can stomp the gas as hard as you want and it makes you bitter as nothing happens The transmission is so bitter that after it completes the twilight series it remembers its a transmission and changes gear foot to the floor , door open paddling with my foot , with the dogs strapped to the bumper pulling it wile hanging out the side of the car like a drunken jackass holding a very long stick with peanut butter on the end finally get it up to speed only to realize wer doing Mach Jesus down hill only to hit the peddle and feel what I can only describe as stomping jetpuff marshmallow topping through a Asian sized glory hole and screaming so loud you change genders ....that's how it feels to drive the power of a bitter. $3k later got it running...ish as one just can't have a fully operational bitter I had to sell it as my brain couldn't take the mental stress of the complete and utter 💩📦 the car was. Later bought a miata and ya ....now feel like lighting my man car on fire and screaming so loud I complete the sex change mentioned above.
Oh the sound of this guy's voice describing the Ferrari . I can tell he just loves German cars to the point he hates normal cars. Stay in Oakland snob...
DEEAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
I'm sure its absolutely awful in every quantifiable way, but boy does it look great.
The best lemons are those you meet along the way.
I am schwelmed by this video.
Frua did the body work. Rebuilding a unibody Senator with IRS and recirculating ball steering, and an engine heavier than a 350 Chev with 110 cubic inches less...priceless....
I got to know the Bitter as a proper classic after one showed up here on the east coast at a car show. I was really impressed by it. It looked really cool and I had no idea of its performance. Now that I know how fast it is. Well it still looks nice.
It's like a DeLorean. Looks okay, but without Mr. Fusion, it was a relative slug... 😊
@@Backroad_Junkie The difference is that DMC is still in business and selling parts, with a Bitter you're stuck with needing a collection of parts cars...
this is probably *the single best episode* of 24hoursoflemons. DEEEEEAAAAAANN!!!!
totally iconic DEEEAAANNN performance by Jay. Love it!
Classic! Laughing out loud at DEEEEEAAAAAAAAANNN!!!!
This is one of your finest videos of all time. I laughed so hard.
But now I want a Bitter. And an LS.
There is a Bitter fan in town, (believe it or not) has three of the things, and is planning an engine swap in one of them. Has it down to an LS3 or a Coyote, hasn't made up his mind yet. Either would be good, though the Coyote seems like it would fit the perceived exotic nature of the car a bit better. A Better Bitter.
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Kudos to Jay for his classic DEEAAANNN but Nick gets the Oscar for his uncanny Jay Leno impression.
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Maybe Phillip can add a small block Chevy engine and have a Ch + itter Chitter. That way the Chotus would have someone to play with.
More like a Shelby engine
@@jaylamm8698 i see vat you did zere
He's got a RUclips channel that's pretty informative
An Oscar for that Lamm fella
Deeeeeaaaaaannnnnn!
here in the uk my brother and i raced an opel monza gsi a coupe a version of what lies under the bitter and could just about keep up with the bmw m3s of the time so dont give the bitter a hard time with a bit of finessing i am sure it could come to "dominate"!
Awesome! The Monzas made great race cars and they looked epic. Although the Monza/Senator platform is probably best compared to the first generation BMW 5 (E12) and 6 series (E24). Very similar suspension and drivetrain, especially with the fuel-injected 3-liter straight six that's in the GSI and the Bitter. Really not a bad platform, just a wee bit underpowered in Lemons these days, especially with the 3-speed slushbox 😂
@@bitterlemon6465 luckily ours was equipped with the bulletproof dog leg 1st getrag 5 speed manual so maybe a swap with one of those might give ze bitter a leg up well that and a shed load of irmscher tuning bits!
@@MrGaryjames1 yes, that would be in the books if we were in Europe. Over here in the States, where no other Monza/Senator platform car other than the Bitter was ever sold, manual parts are rare as hen's teeth. We had to bring loads of parts back from European vacation in our suitcases! Including brake discs lol.
Methinks that when the time comes to upgrade the gearbox, the venerable Opel 3 liter will make room for something more powerful at the same time, solving two problems in one go.
@@bitterlemon6465 but why u ruin classic man te he best if luck chaps one day I will make it to a round and will come and drink rakes of warm British ale with you and I shall recount of how much of a great racing driver I once was! Be lucky!
@@MrGaryjames1 that'd be grand 👌
Cue the Angelic music. Display the Icon. Good, that's a wrap. Now where's that Balogna sandwich?
bitter lemon is the distinguished mans drink
The opel senator was also the basis for styling cues for the holden vb commodore
The Bitter looks like a mix of that Ferrari you were talking about, and a 2nd gen Supra.
Also worth noting about the price of this, thing, it's more expensive than most BMWs, most Mercedes at the time (Let me remind you the reason you can't import a car under 25 years old is because Mercedes people were importing their cars because it was cheaper) all Cadillacs, all Lincolns, it's on par with Rolls Royce at the time, and it runs like a German Made piece of crap car of the time
Oh my gosh I love it
My name is Dean. I feel attacked.
Wonder if this shares much of the engine architecture of the Opel Omega.
I'd imagine grafting on a 24 valve head & the twin turbos from a wrecked lotus carlton or if some turbo model from opel had that as well.
Would make this thing scoot along pretty well as the top range Lotus Carlton made 382 hp at the crank & that car is heavier then the bitter sc by i think 160 kg.
Yeah, that 24V motor from the Omega/Carlton is the last iteration of the motor that's in the Bitter. Technically it would fit 🤔. Not sure it would be a wise choice for endurance racing. 😂
@@bitterlemon6465 Or a wise choice in general.
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Hella Bitter Sweet
Has anyone raced a Trabant, Lada or other Soviet Exotic yet?
I'm hoping someone races this Russian super car. A driving one exists in the UK. " Norwich Union super car 1989 (OLD Adverts) on the channel " 2ombieboy's VHS Vault " See also: Mirov 2 Worlds First Russain Supercar! Norwich Union Ad " on the channel " Zain Venturi "
2 ladas have been raced. The trabant is too small to race.
Sold to the highest bitter
From Not THAT Dean. Well, they race Maserati Quattroportes....so why not an October fest Bitter. Alexi Sayle said....like a Pint of Bitter. Elo John Gotta New Mota...
I'm hoping someone races this Russian super car. A driving one exists in the UK. " Norwich Union super car 1989 (OLD Adverts) on the channel " 2ombieboy's VHS Vault " See also: Mirov 2 Worlds First Russain Supercar! Norwich Union Ad " on the channel " Zain Venturi "
must he blaspheme?
Being 1 who has owned a bitter I can say for all wanting to know
The bitter will make you a bitter person 😂🤣
Smells..bitter
Runs..bitter
Shifts..bitter
Will make your car hating wife....bitter 🤣😂
This car is so bitter your wife will disappear faster then the kalua cake in a AA meeting
You can stomp the gas as hard as you want and it makes you bitter as nothing happens
The transmission is so bitter that after it completes the twilight series it remembers its a transmission and changes gear
foot to the floor , door open paddling with my foot , with the dogs strapped to the bumper pulling it wile hanging out the side of the car like a drunken jackass holding a very long stick with peanut butter on the end finally get it up to speed only to realize wer doing Mach Jesus down hill only to hit the peddle and feel what I can only describe as stomping jetpuff marshmallow topping through a Asian sized glory hole and screaming so loud you change genders ....that's how it feels to drive the power of a bitter.
$3k later got it running...ish as one just can't have a fully operational bitter I had to sell it as my brain couldn't take the mental stress of the complete and utter 💩📦 the car was. Later bought a miata and ya ....now feel like lighting my man car on fire and screaming so loud I complete the sex change mentioned above.
Dont fugging buy Ferrari cars. You deserve to have it breakdown in you if you do....
Oh the sound of this guy's voice describing the Ferrari . I can tell he just loves German cars to the point he hates normal cars. Stay in Oakland snob...
Sounds like someone's jealous. Must suck to be a nobody, huh?
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