I concur.. If you can do 2 cars, get a miata and something more practical.. if you can't do 2 cars, get one of the twins (GR86/BRZ).. I've wanted a miata for a long time and finally got one last year.. ill never not have one now.. it's pure driving therapy.. and they sound great with an aftermarket exhaust (GWR Race Exhaust for me).. Lot throatier than you'd expect, lol. Sounds like an old school British roadster, which I'm sure was the goal.. My other 'more practical' car, is a Fiesta ST, so I'm never not smiling or bombing around town lol..
Bro I have a 6 speed GT and have so much fun! It’s got nothing to do with being lazy lol I have driven manual mustangs and agree they are absolutely a blast to drive but at this point in life I really just enjoy cruising…throw in drive or sport mode and let her do what she does. Also at the end of the day, all of us who have mustangs are part of a family so let’s not throw jabs at auto drivers vs manual . There are options for everyone
@@kel50pp It's not about being able to shift fast.. it's about executing perfect shifts and perfect heel-toe downshifts while braking into a corner.. When you get it right, it's extremely rewarding.. Anything resembling a sports car or muscle car needs a manual transmission, imo (super and hyper cars are a different beast). You take away lot from the experience otherwise.. Clicking paddles to downshift is too easy to be rewarding, imo.. But, once you master your heel-toe technique, you won't want to drive anything else.. - Miata and FiST owner (owned a manual Challenger Scat Pack as well.. a better driver's car than people would think, lol.. TR6060 and double-wishbone all the way around)
p zero {all seasons } on my stock 2019 6 speed GT replaced with continental extreme contact {all seasons} MAJOR IMPROVEMENT , WOT with T/C off in 2nd gear no wheel spin/hop. AMAZING!
@@I4MChurchnah it really doesn’t though, all the raptors, stangs etc use unreal engine so they essentially thru themes on and called it a day….. opposed to paying for every motor, needle, backlighting etc for each gauge on a traditional dash
THE BEST Mustang video I have seen! Great content, camera work, and narration/information. Finally a video showing the driver DRIVING the Mustang the way it is meant to be driven! Thanks from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦
Yeah I've heard the MT82 has issues but it feels great in the car I'm driving. Just going by personal experience but in a stock vehicle I have no complaints about the 6-speed here. I drove a GT350R with the Tremec in 2018 and it was amazing... but I'd need a back to back comparison to re-assess the difference.
@@RoadsUntraveled Brand new its ganna shift fine i think it's a little later down the road the MT82s show their true colors. They break and have gear lockout later.
Exactly why I got the 10spd, the mt-82 is a joke I should know, I had a 2012 cali special mustang and the clutch went out doing a hill start, and they blamed me for not knowing how to drive it, but the scat pack challenger I had with the tremec had no damn issues
I can speak from experience.. the MT82 is pure trash! Tremec T56/TR6060 is sooooo much better. I sold my Mustang with the MT82 and bought a Camaro with a TR6060. not even close how much better the Tremec is.
After driving a 2019 Charger 392. I don't want to drive another manual. If I have to drive an 1989 Mustang GT. I want it to be a manual. The automatic with 2.73 gears, would not break the tires loose.
I have to say, I would get a 10 speed. I’m a classic mustang owner 67 coupe and it’s a T5 swap with a 289. Absolute blast, but I rode in a 2024 10speed auto, and it’s such a different animal it’s insane. Give me the 10 speed v a manual race and that’ll tell you why.
Yeah totally driving an automatic makes me a lazy person when I have to commute to pretty long distances every day in high traffic situations and manual is a living hell in this situation especially where I live with shitty ass drivers.
Nice car! Optioned very well. I have a 19 Bullitt with all the goodies. Added Ford racing magnaride suspension upgrade. Handles well for a heavy car. Removed the front resonator to hear the active exhaust . Just an amazing sound! Sport mode sounds the best. Owned many convertible sport cars. Done with that for now. Coupes only for me.
Mazda Miata, BRZ/GR86 twins Subaru WRX, GR Corolla, Civic R, Nissan Z, GR Supra, Golf R, enthusiast cars are mostly offered in manual except the GTR, C8, and newer 911.
The 2024 model year Golf R and GTI will be the last year to get the manual. :( But yes, there are still a few fighting! Only three V8 cars on sale today with a manual though as far as I can see, which is where the Mustang comes in.
I own a Miata and like it better on backroads. So, it’s just more fun to drive than the boat like Mustang. I do love the sound of the Coyote V8 but not the driving dynamics. A Miata is the best answer for affordable driving fun in convertible roadster. I have the RFGT which transforms into,a cool looking coupe ….sort of like the original 2500 lb Mustang in 1965. A small light nimble sports car convertible.
I agree. I have a soft top ND1 (I prefer the torque curve vs. the ND2) and a Fiesta ST and both are amazingly good fun on a back road.. the miata is fun pretty much anywhere because it's distilled driving.. It just needs an exhaust, lol (GWR Race Exhaust for me!).. The miata never sees rain (that's what the FiST is for).. i've got a lot of 'smiles per gallon' in my garage :)
On *most* smaller backroads I'd rather be driving an ND MX-5 too. Love the way they feel, tossing the car around. The Mustang GT will always have a much better sound though, and the rear end is much more predictable to kick out on lower speed corners I find.
@@RoadsUntraveled - Yes…the sound of that Coyote engine in the Mustang and the cool factor… I owned a 2019 Bullitt Mustang for 2 years and it was fun, cool and cost about $50k. You can t always have everything you want, so I ended up selling it to CarMax and now I’m driving a ‘23 Soul Red RF GT manual Miata for fun. I drive a BMW X3 as my daily. Another Mustang makes no sense, unless I trade or sell my X3 or Miata. That ain’t happening at the moment. It’s so much fun to jump in that little Miata and toss it around with the manual. The X3 is the best daily I can think of. Drives great and looks ok for an SUV.
When I was young , there was a very legitimate reason for wanting a manual . The only other option was a very lackluster 3-speed automatic . I haven't even tried it , but I'm sure that I would be fine with a 10-speed dual clutch transmission . I'm not sure that the save the manuals movement is all that necessary at this point .
A manual transmission gives you a sense of connection with the car. It’s more fun to drive because you are in full control. My personal opinion because I have a Shelby Mustang with a Tremec manual transmission and it’s just pure joy
@@timschultes6467 it was fun but it cost a lot to own and maintain. 180 dollar oil changes just for the oil doing it yourself. Amsoil 5w50 lol. 400 dollar a tire, and the motor shaking itself lose off the mounts over time.
GR Corolla, Integra Type-S, Civic Type-R, Porsche 911 and Cayman are a few others but the roster is quickly shrinking... Big power + manual is virtually gone except those two and the Camaro, yeah.
When did a manual become luxury and untouchable? 😔 Have driven manual since I started driving and now you have to in all reality pay more for manual. GTI no manuals you need to buy an R 😔
I think the mid 2020s will prove to be "peak screen". There's a growing resistance to removing all the hard switches with Tesla being the worst offender. No surprise there, Musk has nothing but contempt for anyone who dares to disagree. I understand the Euro Star rating agency will not give five stars to any vehicle that has the HVAC controls buried in the screen. This is all nothing more than cost cutting by the manufacturers, by removing physical switches, despite their attempts to market it as an improvement. It's a massive step backwards for safety and ease of use. Soon to be seen as a serious another misstep by the automotive industry IMHO.
Re a small backseats…there are no other BETTER options. Even more money for the BMW convertibles or a Porsche 911 won’t get you more back seatroom than the Mustang.
Ironically, it's Hyundai to the rescue with the new Ioniq 5 and fake manual transmission 🤣🤣 Who ever thought it would be Hyundai to save drivers cars... and with an EV to boot (up)? lol
Regarding electric motors and manual trannies, my idea is to mate the two for the sole purpose of giving the driver (especially gearheads) the experience that they're driving a stick (not that it mattered to the motor, but at least the tranny is functional in some ways); while they're in an e electric car I mean can you imagine you're using stick your whole life (for example) and buying an EV with no stick, the disconnect between the driver and the car is obvious. How does one supposed to drive properly with that sudden change? My idea is to bridge the gap between the two, or an interim/Stop-gap, at least
@@RoadsUntraveled If you can add a clutch pedal to a fully automatic zf 8hp transmission right now.. its only a matter of time until oems (prob hyundai again 🤣) do the same with EV's.
That interior looks like it was made by Mattel. What a POS. Those seats are so cheaply made they’ll be wrinkled and worn out in a few years. Plastic everywhere.
Plus it costs about $66,000, loaded as a convertible. I’ll keep my Miata RF GT. More analog, more fun, much cheaper. The Miata is more fun than the Nissan Z or Supra which aren’t selling as convertibles yet. The Z4 is ok but as a manual costs more than $70k. Miata loaded is $40k.
*Stares at my 6-speed manual, ND2 Miata out the window* "... I mean, Mazda still makes you."
I concur.. If you can do 2 cars, get a miata and something more practical.. if you can't do 2 cars, get one of the twins (GR86/BRZ).. I've wanted a miata for a long time and finally got one last year.. ill never not have one now.. it's pure driving therapy.. and they sound great with an aftermarket exhaust (GWR Race Exhaust for me).. Lot throatier than you'd expect, lol. Sounds like an old school British roadster, which I'm sure was the goal.. My other 'more practical' car, is a Fiesta ST, so I'm never not smiling or bombing around town lol..
Bro I have a 6 speed GT and have so much fun! It’s got nothing to do with being lazy lol I have driven manual mustangs and agree they are absolutely a blast to drive but at this point in life I really just enjoy cruising…throw in drive or sport mode and let her do what she does. Also at the end of the day, all of us who have mustangs are part of a family so let’s not throw jabs at auto drivers vs manual . There are options for everyone
Good point dude, I have a 22 convertible and I love the 10R80, in sport mode it will kill my manual any day of the week. No human can shift that fast!
@@kel50pp It's not about being able to shift fast.. it's about executing perfect shifts and perfect heel-toe downshifts while braking into a corner.. When you get it right, it's extremely rewarding.. Anything resembling a sports car or muscle car needs a manual transmission, imo (super and hyper cars are a different beast). You take away lot from the experience otherwise.. Clicking paddles to downshift is too easy to be rewarding, imo.. But, once you master your heel-toe technique, you won't want to drive anything else..
- Miata and FiST owner (owned a manual Challenger Scat Pack as well.. a better driver's car than people would think, lol.. TR6060 and double-wishbone all the way around)
Haha of course there are options and i'm glad you're enjoying your car. That's all that matters at the end of the day. Just having fun ;)
p zero {all seasons } on my stock 2019 6 speed GT replaced with continental extreme contact {all seasons} MAJOR IMPROVEMENT , WOT with T/C off in 2nd gear no wheel spin/hop. AMAZING!
I am so sick of these cheap plastic snap on screens that have replaced integrated dashboards. Cost cutting has gone too far.
It cost more for software RND and a good clear screen that can even run unreal engine 5 for all the graphics and info.
Womp womp
Womp womp
@@I4MChurch that can all be integrated into the dashboard like on my M850i. Not cheap snap on plastic. My point went right over your head.
@@I4MChurchnah it really doesn’t though, all the raptors, stangs etc use unreal engine so they essentially thru themes on and called it a day….. opposed to paying for every motor, needle, backlighting etc for each gauge on a traditional dash
THE BEST Mustang video I have seen!
Great content, camera work, and narration/information.
Finally a video showing the driver DRIVING the Mustang the way it is meant to be driven!
Thanks from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks for watching :D
Not with the MT82 they're not. So you have to pay 70k plus markups for a Dark Horse with the TR6060
Yeah I've heard the MT82 has issues but it feels great in the car I'm driving. Just going by personal experience but in a stock vehicle I have no complaints about the 6-speed here. I drove a GT350R with the Tremec in 2018 and it was amazing... but I'd need a back to back comparison to re-assess the difference.
Exactly this. Or for the same money you can go and get yourself a used GT350 and have a much better drivers car.
@@RoadsUntraveled Brand new its ganna shift fine i think it's a little later down the road the MT82s show their true colors. They break and have gear lockout later.
Exactly why I got the 10spd, the mt-82 is a joke I should know, I had a 2012 cali special mustang and the clutch went out doing a hill start, and they blamed me for not knowing how to drive it, but the scat pack challenger I had with the tremec had no damn issues
I can speak from experience.. the MT82 is pure trash! Tremec T56/TR6060 is sooooo much better. I sold my Mustang with the MT82 and bought a Camaro with a TR6060. not even close how much better the Tremec is.
After driving a 2019 Charger 392. I don't want to drive another manual. If I have to drive an 1989 Mustang GT. I want it to be a manual. The automatic with 2.73 gears, would not break the tires loose.
I have to say, I would get a 10 speed. I’m a classic mustang owner 67 coupe and it’s a T5 swap with a 289. Absolute blast, but I rode in a 2024 10speed auto, and it’s such a different animal it’s insane. Give me the 10 speed v a manual race and that’ll tell you why.
Performance perfection achieved
I have convertible GT s650 race red active valves exhaust
Program the star button to quiet exhaust it's awesome also you can set it up to start up in quiet during certain hours as well
Yeah totally driving an automatic makes me a lazy person when I have to commute to pretty long distances every day in high traffic situations and manual is a living hell in this situation especially where I live with shitty ass drivers.
That front hood panel gap on the passenger side is killing me. Especially in white.
Bro omg I was thinking the same thing through watching this video it’s so stupid
It's not the greatest..
Nice car! Optioned very well. I have a 19 Bullitt with all the goodies. Added Ford racing magnaride suspension upgrade. Handles well for a heavy car. Removed the front resonator to hear the active exhaust . Just an amazing sound! Sport mode sounds the best.
Owned many convertible sport cars. Done with that for now. Coupes only for me.
As part of Gen Z. I do not want a digital rpm, and mph gauge
I definitely agree with liking the coupe being better.
Mazda Miata, BRZ/GR86 twins Subaru WRX, GR Corolla, Civic R, Nissan Z, GR Supra, Golf R, enthusiast cars are mostly offered in manual except the GTR, C8, and newer 911.
The 2024 model year Golf R and GTI will be the last year to get the manual. :( But yes, there are still a few fighting! Only three V8 cars on sale today with a manual though as far as I can see, which is where the Mustang comes in.
If the GT had the Tremec I would of picked it over the 10sp
I own a Miata and like it better on backroads. So, it’s just more fun to drive than the boat like Mustang. I do love the sound of the Coyote V8 but not the driving dynamics. A Miata is the best answer for affordable driving fun in convertible roadster. I have the RFGT which transforms into,a cool looking coupe ….sort of like the original 2500 lb Mustang in 1965. A small light nimble sports car convertible.
I agree. I have a soft top ND1 (I prefer the torque curve vs. the ND2) and a Fiesta ST and both are amazingly good fun on a back road.. the miata is fun pretty much anywhere because it's distilled driving.. It just needs an exhaust, lol (GWR Race Exhaust for me!).. The miata never sees rain (that's what the FiST is for).. i've got a lot of 'smiles per gallon' in my garage :)
On *most* smaller backroads I'd rather be driving an ND MX-5 too. Love the way they feel, tossing the car around. The Mustang GT will always have a much better sound though, and the rear end is much more predictable to kick out on lower speed corners I find.
@@RoadsUntraveled - Yes…the sound of that Coyote engine in the Mustang and the cool factor… I owned a 2019 Bullitt Mustang for 2 years and it was fun, cool and cost about $50k. You can t always have everything you want, so I ended up selling it to CarMax and now I’m driving a ‘23 Soul Red RF GT manual Miata for fun. I drive a BMW X3 as my daily. Another Mustang makes no sense, unless I trade or sell my X3 or Miata. That ain’t happening at the moment. It’s so much fun to jump in that little Miata and toss it around with the manual. The X3 is the best daily I can think of. Drives great and looks ok for an SUV.
When I was young , there was a very legitimate reason for wanting a manual . The only other option was a very lackluster 3-speed automatic . I haven't even tried it , but I'm sure that I would be fine with a 10-speed dual clutch transmission . I'm not sure that the save the manuals movement is all that necessary at this point .
A manual transmission gives you a sense of connection with the car. It’s more fun to drive because you are in full control. My personal opinion because I have a Shelby Mustang with a Tremec manual transmission and it’s just pure joy
And the 10 speed is not a DCT. It’s a regular auto. But to be fair, it’s capable and comfortable for cruising.
@@timschultes6467former GT350 owner. I agree .. manual or nothing on a sports car.
@@AntilleanConfederation I really would like to pick up a used 2020 GT350. Amazing car
@@timschultes6467 it was fun but it cost a lot to own and maintain. 180 dollar oil changes just for the oil doing it yourself. Amsoil 5w50 lol. 400 dollar a tire, and the motor shaking itself lose off the mounts over time.
How does it feel shifting it fast?
freaking great reviews
Nice review. What area in Ontario is this, love the mountain scenery?
Haha it's BC, sorry to disappoint. Car belongs to Ford Canada which is why it's got Ontario plates
Got a built engine in my 16 STI for overall less than 40k. Not NA but it's a 4 bangin' muscle car-eating beast.
STi's are so sweet, keep her healthy, let her warm up & cool down always, & enjoy the hell out of it! I miss mine
For how many pulls?
@@j4559 140 degrees for the oil temp n she purs ;)
@boostyy301 Kraken Motorsport engine with 27,000 miles of pulls under its belt mate it'll be fine 👌 😁
Dude I'm just as much fun with my 10R80 automatic as I am with my 6 speed manual transmission. Paddle shifting is fun too!
Hate the cheap screen. One day they will pay the R&D for a custom binnacle like they used to.
How's the wind blast in a convertible around 50 to 70 MPH?
None with the windows up. Over 80 mph is where wind gets a bit gnarly.
I love my manual 24 GT I paid 38k 😁
that's how Mustang is better than covette c8
For what they are charging...I would have liked to see over 500 horsepower.
This and the Blackwing are the only cars fighting the autos :(
GR Corolla, Integra Type-S, Civic Type-R, Porsche 911 and Cayman are a few others but the roster is quickly shrinking... Big power + manual is virtually gone except those two and the Camaro, yeah.
When did a manual become luxury and untouchable? 😔 Have driven manual since I started driving and now you have to in all reality pay more for manual. GTI no manuals you need to buy an R 😔
Miata starts and 29k and GT-86/brz is about the same , Civic Sports are 26k ish ( all new US prices off the respective manufacture sites)
@@PointBlank65WRX starts at 31k for manual base
I think the mid 2020s will prove to be "peak screen". There's a growing resistance to removing all the hard switches with Tesla being the worst offender. No surprise there, Musk has nothing but contempt for anyone who dares to disagree. I understand the Euro Star rating agency will not give five stars to any vehicle that has the HVAC controls buried in the screen.
This is all nothing more than cost cutting by the manufacturers, by removing physical switches, despite their attempts to market it as an improvement. It's a massive step backwards for safety and ease of use. Soon to be seen as a serious another misstep by the automotive industry IMHO.
Screen HVAC is stupid.
Badass
Re a small backseats…there are no other BETTER options. Even more money for the BMW convertibles or a Porsche 911 won’t get you more back seatroom than the Mustang.
Dude is a "short" guy at 5'10.
The world doomed. You have to be 17yo 6’3 to not consider short.
My mustang Gt 2017. Is best
Ironically, it's Hyundai to the rescue with the new Ioniq 5 and fake manual transmission 🤣🤣
Who ever thought it would be Hyundai to save drivers cars... and with an EV to boot (up)? lol
Fake dual-clutch automatic** No EV is saving manuals (yet)
Regarding electric motors and manual trannies, my idea is to mate the two for the sole purpose of giving the driver (especially gearheads) the experience that they're driving a stick (not that it mattered to the motor, but at least the tranny is functional in some ways); while they're in an e electric car
I mean can you imagine you're using stick your whole life (for example) and buying an EV with no stick, the disconnect between the driver and the car is obvious. How does one supposed to drive properly with that sudden change? My idea is to bridge the gap between the two, or an interim/Stop-gap, at least
@@RoadsUntraveled If you can add a clutch pedal to a fully automatic zf 8hp transmission right now.. its only a matter of time until oems (prob hyundai again 🤣) do the same with EV's.
@@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 that what the ioniq 5 has done it seems. Its only missing a clutch pedal.
@@starfox_wr-45e93 oh yeah, that's included, too!
That interior looks like it was made by Mattel. What a POS. Those seats are so cheaply made they’ll be wrinkled and worn out in a few years. Plastic everywhere.
Plus it costs about $66,000, loaded as a convertible. I’ll keep my Miata RF GT. More analog, more fun, much cheaper. The Miata is more fun than the Nissan Z or Supra which aren’t selling as convertibles yet. The Z4 is ok but as a manual costs more than $70k. Miata loaded is $40k.
Sounds horrible