Paths of Glory (1957) | MOVIE REACTION
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2023
- We react to this classic anti-war movie that takes place during World War 1 and was made by Stanley Kubrick. Also stars Kirk Douglas.
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Full Metal Jacket is a masterpiece but I think this is Kubrick’s best war film and sadly overlooked.
Trivia notes: the German woman singing in the end would become Stanley Kubrick's wife. Also, the soldier
executed while unconscious would later play the bartender in the Shining.
So happy to see thoughtful young people appreciating this one. When folks describe Kubrick's style as "cold," I point to this film, which radiates the compassion and humanism that's really there in all his films. Too often we mistake broadly telegraphing emotions for "warmth" while ascribing the restraint and control of directors like Kubrick or Bresson as "coldness." PATHS OF GLORY shows just how moving a film that holds a steady gaze can be.
Now THAT'S a movie!!!!! And it's in and out. Hour and a half and you're emotionally wrugn out, you've had a full meal, your mind has been blown. THANK YOU. I got goosebumps during this reaction! I wept during this reaction! The way you guys just naturally got closer to the screen when the battle was about to begin......just that alone is indisputable proof of the movie's power. It made two people move closer to the screen. I wish Kubrick was alive to see this reaction!!! And hey, you're bad at history, you say? You know FIFTY TIMES more than the average American. If you ask the average American, they could not tell you that World War I happened during the 1910's. I am not kidding you at all. And I'm talking about adults in their 50s. (which goes a long way in explaining 21st century USA!.)./ This was pretty much Kubrick's second movie and his first masterpiece. He did two extremely independent, self-financed films (the equivalent of student films) that nobody ever saw until just a few years ago. For all intents and purposes, "The Killing" is his first movie (huge influence on Tarantino, really good movie), "Paths Of Glory" is his second.....and the rest of his rather small filmography is just sick masterpiece after sick masterpiece. So whichever ones you haven't seen, I'm there for! You stil haven't done two of his biggest masterpieces: "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "A Clockwork Orange". Both of those are futuristic movies and are dazzling, mindblowing......and totally different from each other! "Barry Lyndon" takes us back to the Napoleonic wars. "Lolita" is based on the book "Lolita", I don't need to explain that one! All must-sees. YOU GUYS ARE GREAT! Sorry so long a comment, but I can assure you I will be watching this reaction more than once!!!!!!
The war featured in Barry Lyndon was probably the Seven Years' War of the mid-18th Century. The conflicts that took place in America as a part of that war are generally referred to as the French and Indian War.
I first saw this movie late night on TV when I was 15. It was at the height of the Vietnam War. It made a tremendous impact on me.
This is WW I. Kirk Douglas was a major actor (son is Michael Douglas), and this -- like "Spartacus" -- was his project. See the great "12 Angry Men" -- 1957 -- a Henry Fonda project.
Other majors: William Powell, James Stewart, James Cagney, Jean Arthur, Bette Davis, Henry Fonda, William Holden . . .
So great to see movie reactors (and especially young ones) delve into the classics! Much respect to you! I remember the first time I saw that final scene, it just socks you in the gut, so powerful (if I recall, it's one of Steven Spielberg's most favorite films scenes). The song she is singing is called "Der Treue Husar" ("The Faithful Hussar" in English).
I always enjoy watching Timothy Carey (one of the three executed soldiers), what a presence, such a great heavy. He was one of those inimitable character actors that that time period produced, and apparently he was a colorful, eccentric, volatile personality in real life. I've read stories like he auditioned for The Godfather and pulled a gun on Francis Ford Coppola (with blanks, thankfully), and he invited the actor/director John Cassavetes over to his home, covered him in a protective padding suit, and then released his Dobermanns to attack him! I always remember a line from him in Cassavetes' "Killing of Chinese Bookie"....he's a drunk mobster and says "That jerk Karl Marx said opium was the religion of people, I got news for him it's money, it's money....." :)
This film was banned in France until the late 1970s.
It wasn't called "shell shock" during WW II, but the condition was treated the same -- there is a famous story of General Patton slapping a soldier who was suffering from it.
It is good that young people see this. Another film to watch is the 1930's film All Quiet on The Western Front that won an Oscar. In the book of the same title by Erich Maria Remarque who was a soldier in WW1 for Germany, he writes, 'Death is not an adventure for those who stand face to face with it. Despite surviving its bullets and shells, this was a generation of men lost to the war.' Here you see one of the best re-enactments of what before and actually going over the top actually was like and you learn.
I knew many WW1 veterans, and my great grandfather was a WW1 veteran too. These men were the salt of the earth, but were battle hardened, and they would not back down in a confrontation. They considered that they had suffered enough in battle to be given favorable consideration in a confrontation. The veterans I talked to said that the trench and over the top sequences in this film were some of the most realistic re-enactments they had seen. But there was one thing Kubrick got wrong. Generally when going over the top, the men left the trench in waves and not en-mass. This was to prevent the mass loss of life when going over en-mass into a shell bombardment that would kill many men. The thing that the veterans would want me to say to you is this.......we endured this so that you could live in a free world. Learn from this, and do not repeat the mistakes others made that led to this. Seems that someone in Russia has not learned anything at all.
It was shell shock (WW1), then battle fatigue (WW2), and then PTSD. PTSD came well after the Vietnam War, and many of its veterans were not treated for their severe PTSD. But in WW1 shell shock was frowned on and little understood (only after the war in the worst cases), and General Patton in WW2 called battle fatigue the cowards way out, refused to accept it, and ended up being reprimanded for slapping a soldier who had it.
The British and French in WW1 shot many soldiers in this fashion for cowardice or desertion. The British Army wanted to take control of the Australian Army to meet out similar punishment on Australian soldiers, but was refused by Australian General Staff. This meant that no Australian soldier was shot in WW1 for cowardice. The Australian General Staff took the attitude that the Germans were killing enough of their men without the British or Australians doing it themselves.
This film shows an attack, a trial, an execution, and an aftermath. But it says nothing about the continual trench conditions of: dirt, filth, mud, lice, fleas, rats, rain, cold, trench foot (rotting of the feet due to continual submersion in water), gas, barbed wire, poor rations, battlefields blown to hell, shell holes filled with water and wounded men slowly slipping into them and drowning, men falling into shell holes filled with water and drowning in liquid mud in full pack (my great grandfather saw this - his name was Aspinal, and they could not get him out), battlefields covered in thousands of rotting stinking corpses and body parts, not to mention shells and bullets. This was a slaughter of good fine men on a massive scale. My great grandfather would not allow anyone to call it a war, because a war is conducted with rules of engagement by civilised men. Rather he always called this a mass carnage of good men, and such a damn damn waste. He bayonetted a mid 20's German soldier in the chest in hand to hand trench combat, killing him outright. That affected him with nightmares for the rest of his life, and he would wake up screaming twice a week on average.
Personally, I would have rounded up all the top brass at the trial, put them all on the front line, and told them that they were going up front to lead the next attack on the Anthill. At that point we would have found out who all the cowards actually were as they squirmed to get out of it. It is very nice sitting in a chateau twenty miles behind the lines orchestrating an attack where there will be no risk of death at all, but when you have to confront bullets and shells it is a different matter. My great grandfather told me this ditto: 'He's a jolly fine fellow' said Harry to Jack, as they marched up to Arras with rifle and pack, but he did for them both with his plan of attack. How right.
The final singer here is Kubrick's wife! Look at the men. They cannot understand the language, but they are all with her in the song remembering their loved ones and that perhaps even on that day they might die, and you can feel their camaraderie and sadness.
This film was banned in France. Why? It did not give a good portrayal of the French General Staff in WW1. Anyone might come to the conclusion that they were a bunch of self centered idiots. And that is true for many of them, but not for all of them.
This is at earliest Kubrick's fourth film.
See "Casablanca" -- of 1942 -- for "surprisingly" great cinematography.
Funny you should mention "Chernobyl"! I always say tell people that "Chernobyl" is not about a disaster, it's a "Paths Of Glory" story! / I think it's so cool that you guys did NOT watch this movie because it was Kubrick, but because it was short! That moment when you realized he was directing it was priceless! And then when you learned he had done "Spartacus"! 😄 Most of those actors were not famous. Adolphe Menjou had been around since the silent era. George McReady was a character actor. Timothy Carey is now known as a wild actor who was in two Kubrick movies and two Cassavettes movies (and other things). Joe Turkel ended up playing Lloyd in "The Shining". Kirk Douglas was a star. Kubrick ended up marrying the girl at the end, that's his wife.
OH MY GOD! I"m dropping everything to watch this!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
PS: The post-film discussion was excellent, as usual.
Great reaction Dark. Love your Arma vids!
Some movies i recommend
12 Angry Men (1957)
Requiem For A Dream (2000)
One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest (1975)
Rear Window (1954)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
Ed Wood (1994)
Clerks (1994)
Bringing Out The Dead (1999)
The point is that the troops are French, but the woman singing is German. The war was between France (and Britain) on one side, and Germany on the other.
Very enjoyable reaction and discussion, thanks for sharing!
Some recommendations:
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
Persona (1966)
Mysterious Skin (2004)
The Worst Person in the World (2021)
A Single Man (2009)
Another Round (2020)
Possession (1981)
Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019)
As absurd as this may seem, a French general really did order an artillery strike on his own soldiers, that part of this movie is based on a true story. In 1915, Gen. Reveilhac ordered an artillery barrage on his own soldiers, but (as in this movie) the artillery commander Col. Berube courageously refused the order. Reveilhac also executed 4 of his own men for "cowardice" after the failed attack.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9raud_R%C3%A9veilhac
The year 1957 was a great one for film, but personally, I feel that Paths of Glory was the best film of the year. It's my #2 Kubrick film only behind 2001:A Space Odyssey. Paths of Glory feels the perfect running time and even with the dialogue heavy scenes, like you said, they also manage to not feel dragged out and get to the point. Kirk Douglas had been nominated for Oscars 3 times prior to this movie and this should have been his 4th nomination.
I don't think any of the cast are French as all of the main cast are American and the extras were German since it was filmed in West Germany
Going into WW II it was believed that it was "Glory!" to die. The "Glory!" was killed by the Gatlin (machine) gun.
See British WW II poet Sigfried Sassoon for what happened when he, educated at the best British colleges, spoke out against that insanity.
"Shell shock" -- PTSD -- wasn't formalized as a diagnosis until the 1980s as result of years of effort by Vietnam veterans.
as an interesting fact: the only country that acknowledged the problem during the war was the russian empire, and even created facilities to help treat the problem, unfortunately those facilities dissappeared during the russian revolution
@@TheLaFleur I'll believe that when I see EVIDENCE from CREDIBLE sources -- and not until then.
The "Russian empire" -- the USSR -- was established by the Bolsheviks of the Russian revolution.
Suggest you watch videos by Timothy Snyder to learn the actual history of Russia and the USSR.
@@jnagarya519 what about Russia under the tzars, aren't we calling it an empire? Their aproach to shell shock was kind off unique compared to their western allies due to their relative isolation. With facilities ready to accomodate patients with possible diagnoses. Them the Bolshevik Revolution came and change the purpose of psychiatric research, to accomodate it to the propaganda concerning the worker's mental health as a force of production free of explotation
@@TheLaFleur I still haven't seen any evidence for the assertion that the "Russian empire," unlike the West, took "shell shock" seriously.
The tsar's family was executed because it was an authoritarian dictatorship; because it couldn't have cared less about all those "inferior" to them.
As if those who hold all the power and possess all the wealth don't use propaganda in order to maintain their position and control.
Look at how the Russian military is doing under Putin -- they are being slaughtered without regard for reasoned military command on the ground because all military power is in the top command.
The same is the point in "Paths of Glory": the decadent top command has no idea what the reality is on the ground; all they know is the goal they want to achieve -- promotions and medals -- and don't care how that is achieved or how many are killed in that vain effort.
You are proposing the ludicrous idea that the "Russian empire" under the tsar cared about the Russian people, which is totally contrary to history. While Stalin was starving the Ukrainians he was also starving Russians at home. And that behavior was traditional Russia.
WWII it was called battle fatigue, general patton got in trouble for slapping a solder who was refusing to fight.
The technology was not limited. And the skills were at least as good as today. See "Casablanca" -- the screenwriting was typically SUPERIOR; see another example in the screwball comedy "My Girl Friday".
You are too young to watch this kind of movie. So...u I Sensor your reactions from my mind. The movie...I can't censore it . from my mind.
Lots of possible peace for you both.
Now this really is one unhappy movie... :)
Spartacus had Kubrick's name on it, but it's the least stylistic Kubrick ever. He was fed up with the studio's requirements, and the feeling was mutual. He vowed never to work in the studio system again.
1947 - Great Britain is a global power and India is a colony whose Governor General is the British Viceroy Louis Mountbatten.
2024 - India becomes a global power and Great Britain becomes a colony whose prime minister is Indian multimillionaire Rishi Sunak. Historical justice or history's joke?
Why would there be marvel level jokes? This is a serious film,
If not for "God" the responsibility would be put where it belongs.
The problem with "Spartacus" is the imposed "religious" bias.
You guys need to observe more and talk a LOT less. Let the greatness play out.