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Division: Norwalk Havoc November 2020 Event Recap (3lb Beetleweight Combat Robot)
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- Division, my 3-pound Beetleweight Combat Robot with an oversized vertical spinner, has just competed at the most recent Norwalk Havoc tournament. Norwalk Havoc has always had a number of competitive robots, but this time was exceptional - 51 robots in all from all across the country came to compete, all following the local COVID guidelines which required getting a negative test before coming in from out of state or staying under 24 hours. The pits were fully outdoors due to the pandemic with the bear minimum number of people inside by the arena at a time, and masks were worn at all times.
Norwalk Havoc has an unbelievable quality livestream for the entire event on RUclips, and I highly recommend you all subscribe to their RUclips channel, linked down below. Their view counts are what help them keep the event completely free to enter, so you’ll be doing all of us a favor by subscribing and watching their videos! The full 12 hour stream is up but in the coming weeks every single fight will be uploaded one by one, so subscribe there to relive each match as they happened without needing to sift through all the breaks in between.
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0:00 Intro
0:59 What Is Norwalk Havoc
2:37 Unique Rules
3:44 The Recap
4:13 Fight One
9:18 Fight Two
19:20 Fight Three
25:51 Fight Four
31:34 Planned Changes
32:15 Outro
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I live in connecticut!!!!! How did I not know about this!!!!!!!! I love love love battle bots so much!!!!!
The fact that you didn’t really take any damage from our fight is pretty impressive. I wasn’t expecting my bearings to dent the steel shaft so now I gotta rethink that lol
Haha thanks! Yeah Division is surprisingly durable for what it is, I think we need another rematch when I can keep the weapon going 😉
Congradulations on beating skorpios. I really underestimated you guys, and maybe you can go far into the tournament
*tantrum has entered the chat*
Big big thank you for doing this kind of video with full fights and damage reps etc etc. much appreciated
You're very welcome!
Ur robots op hopefully you will qualify next year. I feel I wouldn’t have gotten as far in Norwalk without ur videos. My weapon pulley stuff is based on divisions and I optimized my esc settings off watching ur video on bl_heli_32 programming. I hope to see you next year.
-Ethan Kurtz with the robot “Rival”
Rival is an absolute beast! So glad to have helped. Now if only I can start winning as much as you did...
Loving hearing the post fight updates. Thanks for the great video! Hopefully will make my way to a Norwalk fight next year
I love the sportsman ship in these.
"That's a murder death kill tap out."
The only appropriate way to describe that hit.
Pro tip: don't design your combat robot to easily separate into 3 pieces 😂
Shreddit Bro is competing in this year's Battlebots with Pain Train. Can't wait to see them fight. In Norwalk Havoc, Shreddit Bro was shown to be extremely deadly, and won 2 times I believe.
Yup, I think I said that when introducing Sea Devil. Pain Train is a really cool looking bot!
@@JustCuzRobotics
I know you have seen them fight xD. I can't wait. IMO it's the next Minotaur due to its compact design and the black colour scheme. Hopefully it's as successful or more successful than Shreddit Bro in Norwalk Havoc.
I am intrigued at the upgrades you are planning with division, especially the motor upgrade as previously you were a big proponent of the higher kv motor you were using because it was really power dense. I can’t wait to hear the explanation, keep up the great videos!
You raise a good point. Both the Propdrive 2836 3000kv and the new motor are the highest KV available in the given size of the motor. I'm moving to a larger, heavier motor with lower KV but with 4S it will be at nearly the same speed, and with 33% more voltage the power/weight is about the same. There are also a number of limiting physical characteristics of the 2836 which are no longer an issue for the larger motor: the bearings and shaft are bigger to take larger loads, and the shaft will no longer need to be a custom hack job which I fear may be a contributor to the motor bearing failure.
Crawnchy AF! Love the bots, might have to make one for Norwalk Havoc
Do ittttt. It's a lot of fun!
I really enjoyed this event recap format. Someday I hope to have enough time to be able to do it like this. I'm amazed at how stable the bot is when turning with such a large diameter disc
Thank you! Honestly I was surprised at how it handled as well! Especially with all new drive and so much crap on the floor. Many people complained about traction issues but I seemingly had little to none.
Well done. One of my favorite beetle robots!
This video is awesome! Super motivating. I hope to battle you some day in the future!
Classic NHRL just hits different
Fitting the last robot you showed was mine lol
The order was kinda whatever they were in sorted by date I believe. I didn't spend any time arranging them lol
I live in Singapore where to my knowledge there arent rlly combat robotics. The best I cld do for now Is Lego Battlebots lol. And like I guess break a ton of lego with my friends. Very nice to see an actual beetleweight competition
Maybe you can start your own competition someday!
The active weapon rule is honestly a lot more enjoyable as a spectator.
He says, that didn’t go as planned.... haha
nice vid, would love to get started in combat robots
This might help! ruclips.net/video/-fyxuHzDUaY/видео.html
Can't wait to see you fight skorpios in 2 days!!!!
But unfortunately skorpios is my most respected bot so I'm gonna root for him to win, sorry
Hey congratulations on 1k subs
I‘ve started watching 3lbs fights since you recommended it to me and it’s been a blast! For now I‘m watching some Tutorials to take my first steps to build a robot. Could it be that Beetle weight is a bit easier for newcomers than ant weight? I think that going this small is more difficult because you got less weight to play with. Or am I wrong here?
Either way, this is so entertaining and fascinating! I kinda like it more than BattleBots because you get to see so many different Robots :)
Great to hear! I think what weight class is easier kinda depends on your goals, tools, and how competitive you are. It's very difficult to win within the beetle class at many tournaments with a fully 3D printed robot but in ants that's a lot less difficult. That can make antweights a lot cheaper to make a competitive robot. However the component choices with ants can also sometimes be more expensive as there aren't so many options out there besides N20 motors and Fingertech's products. Beetles are definitely more forgiving regarding weight though! Which can be a hugely nice thing when you are building by hand without the aid of CAD tools.
@@JustCuzRobotics I see, thank you very much for your answer!
Until now I haven’t really thought of using a 3D Printer. I thought I can do it with cutting, sawing, grinding etc...
But I think I will try to build any Robot first, regardless of weight class, so I can do my first steps.
I also don’t have much tools at home, so I need to freestyle it anyways.
I also think as time moves on and I finally know a bit about building, it would be better to invest in good tools. But before that, I‘ll try it with what I have.
brett has gone *ROGUE*
Is the commentator on the right headbanger on RUclips? Voice sounds very similar, very cool if it is!
What is the moving box inside the area during every fight?
That's Brett the Brick! He is a 60 pound steel brick with a camera inside which is useful for better close up action shots on stream as well as freeing robots when they get stuck and bringing disabled robots to the doors.
This is the bot that got me into beetle weights... right now. Although not a beetle weight I especially like Brett the Brick
It's always great when someone tells you this is their first time seeing something than suggest advice, but have you thought about taking the "triangles" off the top of the back of your bot and moving them to the bottom to work as sort of a wheelie bar?
Thank you for the kind words. There is actually already a 3d print under the bot to do exactly that.
@@JustCuzRobotics ay I was on the right track! if you don't mind me asking about what the cost was I'd love to know as I can see myself building a bot already. I know the price varies a lot but you have a very unique and complete design so its a better reference than a kit bot
I've definitely invested over $1200 so far in this bot but that is for many many iterations and changes over a year or so. If I were to build it as is now from scratch, it maybe would be closer to $500 or so for enough parts to build one robot and some spares, with send cut send for flat parts and all the electronics. However the uprights were done with CNC machining and that would be very pricy to do if you had to outsource it. I saved a lot of money doing my own machining, 3D printing and bending etc.
I think a simpler and more cheaply manufacturable design could definitely be doable for less than $500 but it really depends on the design and what manufacturing you have available
@@JustCuzRobotics do you think I could do it without knowing anything about 3d printing? I do metalwork but have no experience with 3d printing
@@JustCuzRobotics thanks for the reply by the way! I've been reading the rules of my local(ish) organization to see what I could do!
Division divided by 0!
what if you had two vertical spinners spinning in opposite directions? then no gyroscope?
True but then I would have to redesign the entire bot from scratch so I'll pass
I really like how the rule incentivizes creative bots/loophole exploits. Are meltybrains allowed as well?
Yes, Project Liftoff is one and was at the last March competition and several others.
Anyone can compete at norwalk havok me who lives in the UK looking at plane tickets and wonder if I have a mini bot could I run my UK beetle with no weight changes and a mini bot 🤔
I think they are going to be qualifying that rule to state that the main robot cannot weigh more than 3 pounds (assuming it has wheels) so that wouldn't really work. But also they have not been too strict about the weight limit in the past...
@@JustCuzRobotics intresting to hear I could always swap to a polycarb top panel and use my lighter frame but this does depend if i am able to attend norwalk in the future
What is with that ref bot? That is a bit annoying if you ask me. It gets too close and should be more passive.
50day.io/mediawiki/index.php/Brett_the_Brick
I have 30k rupees (400 USD) In my pocket which division should I join first
I have no clue what robot combat events there are in your area but research that first. You'll probably find something equivalent to 3 pound (1.36kg) or 150 gram weight class might work for that budget
I know I don't know as much as you but based on the first fight I think you are having g force problens with your weapons. It reminds me of what happened to deep six in battle bots
Gyroscopic forces affect all spinners. Especially vertical spinners. And it's more noticeable for 2WD vert spinners too. Usually not a huge problem but there was a much more aggressive spinup than expected.
@@JustCuzRobotics Thanks for replying, love your channel and your robots. Bloodsport is my favorite battle bot now.
Awesome, thank you!
@@JustCuzRobotics I'm 15 and compete in vex robotics. Channels like your's make me want to get into combat robotics as well.
You should! Basically everyone besides myself on the Bloodsport team started in Vex
Nitro hornet wasn't actually mobile.. but oh well... lol
the bot in fight 2, why not run upside down? if it gets bent it wont knock off the belt
You're asking why the vector kit wasn't running upside down? I bet it was because that would mean all his driving would be flipped too so the bot would be really hard to control. Yes there are ways around this with radio programming etc depending on the radio in use but this guy was in his first ever competition. I'm betting he had no idea what Division could do!
@@JustCuzRobotics yeah, rebinding is not too hard, and though I don't know too much about the controllers used I would think you would be a le to bind a switch to reverse the controls or if you go up a level you could throw in a tilt switch in the robot itself
What’s the point of the big box in the way every fight
It's a moving camera and helps unstick stuck robots, or bring those that were disabled to the arena door at the end of a fight
It's Brett the Brick, Norwalk's House Robot
how to build like this battlebots will u send me a video link
If only it were simple enough for just one video... But you can start here. ruclips.net/video/OkAU8hRgrwQ/видео.html
Change your not into drum spinner and put super large brusheless motor and 2 wheel drive
Why would I do that? Then it would just be identical to like half the other robots
Drum Go Dum is Izzie Cao's bot, isn't it? She's with Big Dill.
Honestly not sure, I forgot to ask her name
You got it! I'm also not on team SMEEE & Boring xD Props for getting the song reference correct tho
Nikkk come to Norwlkkk!
I'm sorry! There are only so many people with brightly dyed hair, must have had you two confused 😢
@@izziec I might next year if I can finish this new beetle!
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whats tat big brick for?
It's got a wireless camera inside and works to safely move disabled robots to the doors
imagine BB's Minotaur going in there
Would be hard to fit Minotaur in this arena, these are 3lb bots not 250lb lol
I want to make my own beatle weight bot
How do you get sponsers?
Getting sponsors for a Beetleweight is kinda hard to do unless you are a student at a university or have a following. I managed it because I have this RUclips channel and have the ability to offer advertising in my videos in return for parts, services or cash. If I were a random dude with no following I would not expect to get free stuff. If I were you, I would just build a bot using the tools and materials I can access and afford :)
@@JustCuzRobotics any companies that have great service and parts?
Send Cut Send is one of the best places to get metal and plastic 2D parts made fairly cheap. It's what I used to get Division's wedges, baseplate, side and back armor, uprights, and weapons made. I also would recommend looking into getting or accessing a 3D printer. Local makerspace maybe? Libraries and schools? Depends how old you are/if you are a student and where you are located.
why make wedgelets .just use excavator bucket teeth
These robots weigh a maximum of 3 pounds... One excavator tooth is probably half that
RUclips sensation Seth Schaffer
Yeah idk, I wouldn't exactly call me a sensation at under 1000 subscribers lol
@@JustCuzRobotics nah you should own it. I think it speaks more about the quality of these videos
Drum go dumb WON THAT FIGHT!! He had you flipped and stuck! "ref" played favorites..... not cool and I would never have accepted that win!!
In case you didn't notice, Drum Go Dum had its battery ripped completely out. Worst case it would be a judges decision due to a simultaneous knockout and Division would certainly have won that. But the fight was over due to the other bot tapping out.
It was a tapout that means the other team admitted defeat.
Also if you were talking about when brett helped division, each robot gets a free help from the brick. That has nothing to do with favorites. And both robots were immobilized so it probably would have been a judges decision which decision would have won.
Battle harden your motors
Battle hardening only protects the magnets. Not the bearings.