kudos for testing in champery these big rigs. Seriously this is the best way to test if the new school geometries and wheel sizes work! It's so amazing I want to watch more. A dh bike week a month would be perfect to me!
Can the next downhill review be between the YT Tues Pro, Transition TR11, Pivot Phoenix, and either the Commencal Furious Signature or the Scott Gambler, please? I think people would really love such a review, and a really great job with this one!
I have to commend you on making this a really thorough downhill bike test with your focus on really important things like chassis stability and big hit absorption rather than the usual rumblings about small bump sensitivity and the like. It was evident that this was about finding what defines the bike as a race bike and not how good it is at impressing your buddies in the parking lot. Good stuff. Keep that level up.
@@dhr1129 That´s highly subjective... If you live near a bike park or go there very often it is worth it, otherwise a Enduro or Trail bike are way better if you will have to pedal up... And if oyu want to tour, a XC bike will be the best... So it´s the best bike at the bikepark but certainly not for everyone
At work I find myself drawing downhill bikes super often and would really love to get into bike design but after watching this video it seems the suspension pivots get way more complicated than I thought it's absolutely insane and super impressive
Wife: Honey, do you need to watch this? Me: Of course Wife: You ever ride a DH bike or plan to? Me: No, but you never know and just in case I do, I'll know what I want already. Being pro-active 😉
*Looked at a lot of options for getting my **Latest.Bike** . Great find in SAVA. Super light, nice components, really good value as it comes with many options only found in much higher priced bikes.*
Need some DH huck-to-flat testing. Love to see these tanks getting pushed. Can't wait to get back on mine once spring rolls around! When my Kona dies, the Sender is a great looking next step. Now if only they would bring back the sexy salmon colorway.
I am still shredding the park with my Propain Hugene and it's 135mm suspension but start to feel sorry for the bike and asking myself, if it might not be more sensible to go for a DH bike on top..this video definitely makes me leaning towards the "sensible" side :)
2 things surprised me. First, that the cube was the slowest, and second, the canyon was faster than the commencal. Iguess the cube would have bees faster if the rider was taller.
The demo was too expensive because the brand has world champ athletes so it’s a marketing strategy for specialized. For me the best value for money and new tech almost same like the demo is the Canyon Sender CFR. No doubt! Best looking bike as well.
I would love to see amaury and loic change bikes and here their opinions. But then again bike setup and balls of steel are most important in DH whatever bike your on.
Its a shame how expensive the demo has gotten compared to the previous model which had a full ohlins set-up and was cheaper and now the current demo has rockshox and is more expensive
@@alejandrobungard422 Who switched to commencal? but i mean that the tues is a good race bike and not only a playful bike. Yes commencal has the better team but yt has still good riders
There's a few of those vids out there and there pretty hit and miss because they never seem to use a proper downhill track, if they did it on the Champéry world cup track like they used here which is an actual pure downhill track it would really let the DH bikes shine. Enduro bikes are multi-roll, DH bikes are built for one job and they do that job really really well. If you want to watch a fun bike comparison look up Gee Atherton VS David Knight , i think its on the foxracing channel
Sweet content!! Maybe you could do a video on the new 2022 Kona Honzo ESD . Extra slack dude ! Best hardtail ever ! And there isn't a real review out there on it yet .
I think the commercial supreme is a little cheaper just because it wasn’t as high ended and the other are expensive cause the brand is more popular, also my personal opinion is that the supreme dh frame is more sturdy
This video proves that at the UCI Elite level its more about the rider then the bike. If the Specialized is so slow compared to the Canyon and Commencal then why are the Specialized boys always right there. Sure, each bike suits each rider differently but I believe if a riders going to be champion its not solely dependent on the manufacture there riding for.
That happens because youtube isn‘t updating the view-count in real time, but they are updating the likes in real time. The first people to watch a video are also the most likely to like it, since they are obviously active followers of a channel. Take these two effects together and you‘ve got higher like-counts than view-counts in a short time-interval after a video has been uploaded :)
Hello guys, i'm 66kg heavy and feel like the 475lbs spring is way to harsh.. What spring do you guys recommend me, something like a 325 lbs higher like 375?
Just the fact it has a high pivot doesn't make the travel go straight up or back, longer. That's a pretty generalized statement, the linkage does it as well
Yes! Dont stop reviewing dh bikes pls
they will at the end of the week haha
More DH:)
can’t tell if you’re sarcastic or not
@@Charliehalterman 100% non sarcastic
:>
This is the video the people have been asking for THANK YOU pink bike!!!!!!
Holy shit, I was drooling over those trails more than the bikes!
What better place to test DH bikes than Champéry!
I'm not a downhill rider, and I know this is a pro course, but still when I heard an average descent of 35% I was like nope.
Yea what the fuck. Thats like straight down the face of a mountain
Pussy thats not steep
@@Chrissss205 Go back skating
Actually it is really average. DH racing is the best. I hate pedaling
@@TrIpMo1981 Just one of the steepest DH worldcup tracks. Yeah, totally really average...
kudos for testing in champery these big rigs. Seriously this is the best way to test if the new school geometries and wheel sizes work! It's so amazing I want to watch more. A dh bike week a month would be perfect to me!
Can the next downhill review be between the YT Tues Pro, Transition TR11, Pivot Phoenix, and either the Commencal Furious Signature or the Scott Gambler, please? I think people would really love such a review, and a really great job with this one!
Love my YT Tues, though I've only the AL version
I have to commend you on making this a really thorough downhill bike test with your focus on really important things like chassis stability and big hit absorption rather than the usual rumblings about small bump sensitivity and the like. It was evident that this was about finding what defines the bike as a race bike and not how good it is at impressing your buddies in the parking lot.
Good stuff. Keep that level up.
Love my Supreme ! I’ll never give it up 😃
I'm never ever going to buy a DH bike, still love watching DH reviews though!
why not? its the best out of all mountainbiking
@@dhr1129 That´s highly subjective... If you live near a bike park or go there very often it is worth it, otherwise a Enduro or Trail bike are way better if you will have to pedal up... And if oyu want to tour, a XC bike will be the best... So it´s the best bike at the bikepark but certainly not for everyone
@@froznfire9531 That is correct
I just want to buy a downhill bike to ride the city, sometimes go to bike parks and to just have fun. I just love the feel and emotion when riding it.
Loved this, more Dh bike vids please
Yoooooo!!!!!! Great review video!!!!!!!
Mindblown by this review, the analytical skills and the content.. just wow..
FINALLY
ive been waiting for WAY too long to see a DH Bike test
YES! More of this style of test!
Nice to see an super classy old school inspired paint scheme on the Canyon ! Classic race look . Love it ! Well done .
At work I find myself drawing downhill bikes super often and would really love to get into bike design but after watching this video it seems the suspension pivots get way more complicated than I thought it's absolutely insane and super impressive
Very thorough and detailed review. Excellent!
Wife: Honey, do you need to watch this?
Me: Of course
Wife: You ever ride a DH bike or plan to?
Me: No, but you never know and just in case I do, I'll know what I want already. Being pro-active 😉
Meanwhile you've already got one in your cart 😂
I got a supreme DH 29 based solely on watching Pieron in Les Gets, who says marketing doesnt work. My wife noticed I had a new blue one,
Enjoying the downhill content!
Keep the DH reviews coming!
Would love to see some slowmo huck to flat in the review next time
Finally some DH love.
Remy metailler riding Cube might have had some influence in the extreme progression on the rear end
*Looked at a lot of options for getting my **Latest.Bike** . Great find in SAVA. Super light, nice components, really good value as it comes with many options only found in much higher priced bikes.*
Nice review and what a perfect place to do it!! Man I wish they would bring Champéry back into the world cup circuit.
Commencal is easily the best
Great video !
Love quality content like this !
The new Scott Gambler 2021 is a killer too!
Yesss i have been waiting for a dh comparrasion! Keep dh tech vids coming
Finally people getting on the Cube Train!! Cubes are the shit!!
to much people in europe with those, i see them every where
@@Komplex_Music_ in reunion island we just have commencal and now commencal doens't look good for me
@@lukesavignan4616 same feeling here, when you buy a bike you don't want everyone to have the same bike
Nah theyr nice value but they dont ride as well as other brands
@@lukasbormann4830 thats not what roberts said
Need some DH huck-to-flat testing.
Love to see these tanks getting pushed. Can't wait to get back on mine once spring rolls around!
When my Kona dies, the Sender is a great looking next step. Now if only they would bring back the sexy salmon colorway.
Just brilliant. Great review guys
Such a good review
I am still shredding the park with my Propain Hugene and it's 135mm suspension but start to feel sorry for the bike and asking myself, if it might not be more sensible to go for a DH bike on top..this video definitely makes me leaning towards the "sensible" side :)
finally a dh bike review!
Awesome test and review vid mate! Great job. Cheers.
2 things surprised me. First, that the cube was the slowest, and second, the canyon was faster than the commencal. Iguess the cube would have bees faster if the rider was taller.
with such a tiny margin between Canyon & Commencal, I would attribute it to the riders vs the bikes themselves.
What do you guys think of the Mondraker Summum?
Commencal Supreme
The demo was too expensive because the brand has world champ athletes so it’s a marketing strategy for specialized. For me the best value for money and new tech almost same like the demo is the Canyon Sender CFR. No doubt! Best looking bike as well.
Fantastic reviews!
another win for Commencal
yes good to see the supreme is getting tested
I am going to buy a dh bike in the future and this review was very helpful! 👍🏻
Nice to hear my bike is the best
I would love to see amaury and loic change bikes and here their opinions. But then again bike setup and balls of steel are most important in DH whatever bike your on.
Finally...resurrecting Behind the Numbers!
This is great!
Great comparison, thank you!
Please make another one of these!
Great video ppl!
Commencal FTW!!!
Its a shame how expensive the demo has gotten compared to the previous model which had a full ohlins set-up and was cheaper and now the current demo has rockshox and is more expensive
Yeah, well... Specialized and Santa Cruise are renowned for being overpriced.
i had a supreme but i changed to a norco aurum and i think its better
Maybe next time have short & slight uphill fireroad sprint time to get a idea of suspension set up. Great review 👍
Can you do a review about the scott gambler in terms of racing?
Yes please! I really would like to know where it would be between these...
Very good DH MTB video.....
Dh bikes for life🤘😍
When’s the heck to flat bid coming ;)??
Trek session? Santa Cruz V10?
Supreme vs Grim Donut........Commencal redemption
17:59, ManBearPig sitting by the tree!
Question, what about the YT industries Tues?
Think that’s more of a playful bike instead of race bike but I may be wrong
@@senderbud6323 yt mob?
@@niklas6791 yt mob didn't keep up on the world cup with commencal and the best of the yt mob riders has now moved to commencal
@@alejandrobungard422 Who switched to commencal? but i mean that the tues is a good race bike and not only a playful bike. Yes commencal has the better team but yt has still good riders
@@senderbud6323 i think i heard that too but idk i still love mine
@Pinkbike please do a comparison of enduro racebikes and dh bikes on the same track. Should be interresting
There's a few of those vids out there and there pretty hit and miss because they never seem to use a proper downhill track, if they did it on the Champéry world cup track like they used here which is an actual pure downhill track it would really let the DH bikes shine. Enduro bikes are multi-roll, DH bikes are built for one job and they do that job really really well. If you want to watch a fun bike comparison look up Gee Atherton VS David Knight , i think its on the foxracing channel
The Commencal supreme isn’t that bad at the start and the spring isn’t so stiff I put a higher weight spring and it still gave me really good sag %
Very well written !!
YT Tues FTW ☝😛🤙
Commencal! ❤️
Sweet content!! Maybe you could do a video on the new 2022 Kona Honzo ESD . Extra slack dude ! Best hardtail ever ! And there isn't a real review out there on it yet .
Best design goes to Canyon. Overall goes to Commencal!
Santacruz and scott big?
Would the cube be good as a first downhill bike upgrading from enduro as it is cheaper than the others?
11:40 so sick
I think the commercial supreme is a little cheaper just because it wasn’t as high ended and the other are expensive cause the brand is more popular, also my personal opinion is that the supreme dh frame is more sturdy
U should review the nukeproof dissent
This video proves that at the UCI Elite level its more about the rider then the bike. If the Specialized is so slow compared to the Canyon and Commencal then why are the Specialized boys always right there. Sure, each bike suits each rider differently but I believe if a riders going to be champion its not solely dependent on the manufacture there riding for.
Yeah. Both Loic and Amaury are about 1.8m (6ft) tall. Loic on a S3 (445mm reach) and Amaury on a L (480mm reach) talking about geometry and riders...
@@Tzestos well the Specialized Demo was developed around Bruni
@@nicswensgard And?
@@craigm7240 and what? 😂 I’m not aloud to have a fun technical discussion about bikes?
4 views, 29 likes, makes sense
That happens because youtube isn‘t updating the view-count in real time, but they are updating the likes in real time. The first people to watch a video are also the most likely to like it, since they are obviously active followers of a channel. Take these two effects together and you‘ve got higher like-counts than view-counts in a short time-interval after a video has been uploaded :)
@@lejake Thank you for finally explaining this to everyone
@@lejake Ok cool
Can you do a review on the 2021 yt tues?
YT didn't give them a test bike.
@@craigm7240 yt can't even give bikea to their customers 😂
no Santa Cruz v10?
Santa Cruz did not give them a test bike.
@@craigm7240 u sure?
Downhill field test??
commencal supreme for the win 😍
SENDER UP
How tall are you? I thinking about Commencal and CUBE I am 191cm tall and 96kg what you would recommend?? And XL or L?
Whats with the Gambler ?
I heard Canyon sizes are smaller than the others. Is it true? Like, if I'm medium to other brands, I'm L on Canyon bikes?
Hello guys, i'm 66kg heavy and feel like the 475lbs spring is way to harsh..
What spring do you guys recommend me, something like a 325 lbs higher like 375?
Demo is still the fastest!!!!! Bar none!!! Champion world cup 2021
Is that scale in need of some calibration?
plz can you do a rlly long video compilation of all of all pinkbike intros ever! thanks
Did you weight this by yourself or took from manufacturer?
Wonder how much different it will be riding a new commencal when I have enough money to retire mine, 10 years is a long time in bike tech lol
Sweet! Now I just have to decide which of my children to sell so that I can buy one of these🤣
Buy second hand!
If you want the beat bike, you always buy Commencal.
i miss V10 in a test!
Hello, How tall are you? Thanks
Just the fact it has a high pivot doesn't make the travel go straight up or back, longer. That's a pretty generalized statement, the linkage does it as well
Yes but the high pivot is the reason that t he linkage can do that
Stop
Can u say the Australian price
could you please upload these gopro runs separately? they look too good!
Where is this??
the Canyon looks the best in mo opinion