@@Sardonac When he's talking about Lukes character development and how movies want to have their own Luke but fail to do the little things. Then he compared Ahsoka to Luke as having a similar journey. Point is he didn't say Rey because until TROS she didn't have any character development.
Heath Hersom lmfao. y’all are so bitter and full of hate you now actively refuse to acknowledge obvious jokes because of “mUh eSs-jAy-dubble-u’z” jesus christ
Moderator is cringeworthy. Like the debate but "I'm going to insert myself, say Last Jedi is best, not highlight any reasons for that and then criticize others" attitude is irritating.
That doesn't seem like a fair characterization. She gives some reasons, she indicates how it really affected her, etc. She also did the typical moderator thing, which is to give the panel time to think while filling time and communicating some energy to the audience. I don't think it's any accident that the rest of the panel could give specific and direct answers after she handed it over to them.
@nothinissound That's part of the joke mate. She's obviously feigning a fight for comic effect. This is standard moderator humour. From the looks of things, she's playing it loose so that the rest of them can play it straight.
"A beautiful love letter to everything that came before it." she says. First of all Movies are supposed to be stories, not "love letters" to other movies - the entire thing is completely meta, it has scenes that evoke the other movies - it's more like a dour, miserable funeral for starwars then a love letter. Secondly WTF everyone in the resistance is a complete idiot in TLJ. Holdo, Poe, Finn, Rose, Luke and even rey make stupid decisions with disastrous consequences. Holdo not telling poe the plan. Poe sending Finn and Rose out instead of more seasoned agents (and without weapons?). Everyone in the resistance is going to die but Maz has to stay home over a 'labor dispute'. Finn and Rey nearly blow the mission over parking in the wrong spot, then hire a codebreaker who betrays them, etc. All stupid, pointless decisions.
Why would she say she didn't like the "Clone Wars" movie? Does she mean the original animated version? I thought she could have been talking about "Attack of the Clones." Then again, she could have meant contemporary Clone Wars (I guess). Why would she even risk insulting the panel like that? Does she even know what she's talking about? Definitely not high on the emotional intelligence scale. And TLJ was poorly written soap opera-ish trash.
@@wj3186 She's clearly talking about *The Clone Wars movie.* As in, the movie they made to kick off TCW tv show of the same name. Look it up, it's a thing. There is only one clone wars movie and that's literally called Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Attack of the Clones is Attack of the Clones. Not hard to see a clear difference here unless you've never heard of TCW show having had a movie, which it seems so.
She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
@@AlyxYTP Let's say it was a joke....okay. She said it 3 times? It didn't get a laugh the first time and got more awkward with the 2nd and 3rd time....plus she's a moderator for them...it's not about her at all.
@@TeamBringIt8 There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
@@Zw285 There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
I think she’s nodding in agreement. You’ve characterised it as hostile because you can’t fathom someone having a different opinion on a film with you, having the same opinion on another film.
There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
"Everyone wants to make Jedi Luke Skywalker, but you CAN'T make that without Toshi Station Luke Skywalker. Ahsoka Tano, same thing. Ahsoka does _awfully!_ Early in the Clone Wars, she's messing up left and right, *and then she builds herself up."* Unlike some other Jedi protagonist we might know...
When tf did the last Jedi honour Leia or anything that came before it? Did she even watch the same damn movie ? The movie turned Leia into a meme with that marry Poppins moment. That's not honouring Leia
"the more I watch The Last Jedi - the more I think it's a beautiful love note for EVERYTHING that came before".... - Ahahahaha what?... it's literally a deconstruction, subversion, mockery, and plain disgrace to everything George Lucas created Star Wars to be and represent. Disney butchered the whole franchise.
@@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6 saying animals are abused is fine its not like people are gonna walk out vegan. The only system that does exist is capitalism communism is just state capitalism so pointing out elitist is bad isn't empowering. How much of a soy are you if luke can't think of making a mistake. It never says there's no difference between good and evil they make dj look like an idiot and luke says I won't be the last jedi. No I've clearly been with star wars long enough to understand more than you it's not even a higher level of understanding its just that I prefer a good story rather than luke making love to the ghost of a jedi inside a droid inside his ship you guys are shills.
Deconstruction and Subversion shouldn't be a dirty word, it's just that Last Jedi was shit. Look at Knights of the Old Republic 2 for a good subversion and deconstruction of star wars.
@@omega1397 agreed. Deconstruction is one of my favorite things in story telling. However, what Johnson did isn't what i would call a "deconstruction", more like tearing the paper apart piece by piece.
It's a love letter to itself. It loves itself so much and it's so amazing and spectacular. Everyone looking for Luke in EP7? they all forget about him. Majestic Jedi Master in white at the end of Ep7? turned into a deranged Hobo. That new mysterious super bad guy Snoke? He's a nobody and they kill him. I have never seen a sequel do so much 180 on every single plot element. Fynn got badly wounded at the end of 7. What happens with that? nothing he just walk about in a bubble suit that squirt cum for a few minutes and that lightsaber back stab is never mentioned again. Even the movie that comes after does 180 on things that were done 180 on in Ep8.
The Last Jedi was not a love note to what came before, it did not set anything up, it was not daring, it was not brave, and it was not a glorious tribute to Leia. The meme actually applies here because it's amazing how every single word of what she said was wrong.
She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
@@Wildbilliv1820 No, I'm saying she's also being cool about it too. She's clearly being sarcastic here and isn't trying to be a douche and yet, a lot of people are too dense to realize that and they would rather seek out drama where there is none. Everyone clearly had a great time at that panel and there was no tension whatsoever that emanated in the room. Just yet another normal, fun little fan/celeb get-together.
Yeah, Last Jedi really put me off star wars. After that I was way more invested in Marvel for Infinity War and Endgame. It took Jedi Fallen Order to get me back into it.
fav episode 3 ,,, least fav a tie episode 8,9 and im 46 been a fan since day one... My favorite content, Is clone wars and rebels.. with mando close behind
That lady said The Clone Wars was bad and TLJ was the best??? Am I the only one who thinks this lady is delusional? TLJ completely destroyed Star Wars. I want to believe that TLJ is not canon.
She was talking about the The Clone Wars *movie. She said movie right after TCW, fyi. There's a movie made for it and it is considered the weakest of the entire saga, I don't necessarily disagree, even though I personally love the movie they made for the show, but I do agree it was too early to make a movie for TCW at that time. Still worth watching, especially after you finish the entire show. Means so much more in the aftermath! :)
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi She was talking about the The Clone Wars *movie. She said movie right after TCW, fyi. There's a movie made for it and it is considered the weakest of the entire saga, I don't necessarily disagree, even though I personally love the movie they made for the show, but I do agree it was too early to make a movie for TCW at that time. Still worth watching, especially after you finish the entire show. Means so much more in the aftermath! :)
There's nothing wrong with her. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both. She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
There's nothing wrong with her, you're reading waay too much into it, bud. There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both. She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
Nothing in The Last Jedi fits into the star wars universe even before JJ retconned it. It's an abomination and pulsing middle finger to the fans and Lucas's story
The look on Sam's face while she blathers on about TLJ was one of quiet inner disgust. Good heavens, he was so diplomatic in his response which deconstructed her nonsense in such a tactful way. Girl didn't even understand that she got one shotted!
My favorite Star Wars movie in the prequels revenge of the sith my favorite of the originals empire strikes back my favorite of the sequels the rise of Skywalker
I agree whole heartily with 2 and 8 but for me 9 was a decent attempt for what JJ had to work with. "Okay so Ryan's screwed your plan for this trilogy and not explored enough of the character depth, but uhhh you mind doing all that and bringing in a new villian in this final film dude?"
See my problem is this, episode 7 wasn’t bad, it was a good start, it gave you what seemed to be good and compelling characters (minus Rey) and was setting something up but then 8 came out and ruined what could have been, I thought that Finn would have been like a Kyle Katarn character and learn the way of the force, and then 9 could have been great but it spent most of its screen time fixing what episode 8 screwed up, it just saddens me that what we got is well, final. It doesn’t feel right
Big Ron I like episode 1 and 2 but I will fast forward not gonna lie lololol I’ll watch the trade federation scene at the beginning, skip through naboo a bit skip through Tattooine, watch pod racing for the laughs, and ill watch the last act without skipping. Episode 3 is rad. I like 4-6. 7 is good/safe. Neutral for me. 8 and 9 are eh.
@@Inkbud I mean he did not have to retcon TLJ, it could have easily gone the direction of making Kylo the main villain without him having to redeem himself like Vader's arc in episode 6. The movie was very messy and despite TLJ being controversial, there was plenty to work with and make a cohesive movie, not try to jam two movies worth of content into one. 2, 8, and 9 are my personal least favorites as well.
A love letter? Maybe a love letter to Rey Palpatine, Rose Tico and lady from jurassic Park (which was a a way better character and lovable person in that film). Everyone else is a shitty parent, uncle, leader... Total failures.
0:44 "Sets itself up for so many beautiful new adventures..." lmao, what? All the set up was destroyed and replaced with next to nothing interesting in TLJ. It may as well have been the last Star Wars movie, because there was so little to go off by the end of it (other than what we already saw before, Rebels defeating the Empire, whoa so groundbreaking and beautiful).
If you like the last jedi I don't think you understand why people don't like it or what's wrong with it. It ruins so many things that we all know and love about star wars.
@@golden5186 not really all it does is bring Palpatine back and he clones himself in legends so it makes sense. In the last jedi Luke is completely ruined and a completely different character! Leia survives being in space, rose saves fin when fin is trying to save the entire resistance! What's wrong with rise of Skywalker?
@@willfield9881 I know many decent ST fans who truly love and cherish the Star Wars saga, even TLJ fans who completely understand why people don't like it and why there's many problems with it. I don't think you understand that just because someone likes something, they don't believe it to be completely void of any flaws whatsoever and even if someone believes that so? As long as they're not being jerks about it (unlike that female moderator in this video hehe) and are willing to listen to polite arguments and respond back politely without belittling, then what's so bad about that? All art is subjective, everyone has their own opinions on entertainment. Many ST fans are decent, normal people who simply just like what they like, understand that there's even flaws to what they like (just as there's many flaws with everything else, nothing is perfect) and aren't being total jerks about it. I know there's a lot of ST fans out there who are the exact opposite, but don't let those crazy twitter/social media in general folk cloud your vision. Millions of people enjoyed the Sequels and millions of people don't. The overwhelming majority are decent, normal human beings. Social media is but a fraction.
i like last jedi for different reasons. kylos going through his bit of trauma and snoke bashing him for losing in the last film, i actually like the reveal that rey is no one and just a survivalist who happens to be force sensitive, i liked the tensions between poe and holdo. the first half of scenes with rey and luke. my dislikes were luke throwing his fathers saber over his shoulder, the discussion is the last time he saw it his father cut his hand off with it which probably gave him trauma, but i still disagree because its played out for laughs. reys mystery being dragged out only to be revealed she is no one. fins arc being shoved to the side. from the last film i wanted to see fin and rey become a jedi. luke banishing himself for considering killing ben out of fear. luke banishing himself in general goes against everything the original trilogy established because why wouldnt he want to help his sister regardless of what he has done. all in all even with its flaws its still watchable compared to tros. i think that film becomes to fan servicy that it flat out destroys the entire franchise. i think that one is the worst. tlj couldve been salvaged even after what its done but tros incinerates everything it stood by. from bring back palpatine to ben solos death and rey taking the skywalker name and banishing herself to not train the next jedi.
I love the originals because the started it all, We got to fall in love with people like Luke, Leia, Han, Chewbacca, Vader, etc. watch fantastic fights of its times, vehicles like the T-65 X-Wing, the Tie Fighter, the AT-AT, etc. I could go in about this. But my favorite episode is Episode 1: I love that because I always wanted to know why the Republic fail, and how the Sith came to be. Episode one went to show that the government was to blame. Slow moving, unreliable, even the Jedi who were praised in the originals were shown to be nothing more than Monks with a stick. Trying to mediate the galaxies problems and getting nowhere. My least is the Sequels. I’ll be honest just watching them was like getting a gut punch. It could have been done a lot better. I love legends and the expanded universe and to see that there is no mention of Mara, Jaina, Anakin Solo, or any of the stuff that was brought up in the comics and books. It’s like JJ, went and created a whole new timeline. Maybe I’m over thinking this but like I said, I’m not saying the direction was a bad one, but.....it could have been better made. Or at least with the timeline established.
jpghiva good for you! Glad you can find enjoyment in it. Episode 9 was pretty bad though, but JJ got control of the them wrested form him by Kathleen Kennedy and Disney. It’s too bad that we did not see a movie that he truely made.
@@heathhersom6579 Yeah me too. I see so many people talking wonders about it, I have tried so many times to like it. Saw a bunch of videos praising, talked with people offline and online, still just ok to me.
I'm with her. When I saw TLJ all I got was a ton of thoughtful affection for Star Wars, what it was, is, and might become. We got to see Luke reflect on his own life and legacy. We got to see him struggle and grow, even as a master. We got to see Leia use the force---a promise kept from Episode VI---and it was badass. We also got to see more of her mature personality: her quiet command of a room, in contrast to her sharp and imperial tone in the original series. We got to see Kylo finally have his own thoughtful and sympathetic ambitions. We got to see Rey hope, fail, and find tranquility in accepting herself. We got to see Po get both a 3rd dimension and a full character arc. I was blown away. It was much more than I'd hoped for after TFA.
Lmfao somebody must of been dropped as a baby. Leia’s use of the force badass??? They legit made her look absolutely HILARIOUS at that part and it looked so uncool and at the same time it was so cringe
@@Ethan-hk8se A human could survive for over a minute in the vacuum of space, especially if they exhaled before decompression. Whether they would remain fully conscious past thirty seconds is a different question. But if you really think that Leia surviving ~90 seconds in the vacuum of space is so implausible, then I recommend you not watch space operas to begin with. In Star Wars, force sensitives jump as high as small buildings, fall even greater distances, get cut in half, survive full-body burns and multiple amputation, extended electrocution, and run literally at a blur --- and that's not even counting the powers which are just straight up magic. It's the sort of thing that can happen in this universe.
"My Favorite is Last Jedi"
Everyone else: *It's treason then*
@John Marston It's treason, then.
Commander Cody execute order 66
@@brotherjay4614 Yes, my lord.
@@brotherjay4614 I'll be done my lord
"You have failed me for the last time, reporter."
Sam could've just said TLJ and be done with it. Instead he tears TLJ apart without the moderator noticing it. I love this man.
I don't see how he tears TLJ apart. He just seems full of praise for all that went into ANH, and how much of a pathbreaker it was for the series.
He destroyed The force awakens, the last jedi, and rise of skywalker in the last 30 seconds.
@@somesinger1575 You mean his comment about Luke's character development?
@@Sardonac When he's talking about Lukes character development and how movies want to have their own Luke but fail to do the little things. Then he compared Ahsoka to Luke as having a similar journey. Point is he didn't say Rey because until TROS she didn't have any character development.
@@heathhersom6579 That's a lot of reading into an omission. I don't buy it.
Haha Sam hates TLJ as much as everyone else.
Sam recently officially made it public that he doesn't like the TLJ.
@@vashythewabbit8288 yeah I saw that. About time.
He said that Rian Johnson didn’t do his homework for the Last Jedi in one of his live streams.
@@metaldragmire8539 yeah I saw that. Glad he could finally speak his mind.
Hes such a wellspoken man
"You're all wrong, and thats okay"-Moderator, "THERE ARE NO WRONG ANSWERS!"- Sam Witwer.
The dark side and the light side
Lmao calm you're ass down, she's just joking
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
@@johnsanchez6713 Naaa she was being passive aggressive. SJW's don't simply "Joke"
Heath Hersom lmfao. y’all are so bitter and full of hate you now actively refuse to acknowledge obvious jokes because of “mUh eSs-jAy-dubble-u’z” jesus christ
“That’s the wrong answer but we’ll take it.” ???? Passive Aggressive and rude
Take a joke, man.
I'm sure they were joking as colleagues
It’s a joke
@Omar Cota Torres - A terrible combination.
And here, we have a wild star wars hater who can’t take a joke.
Moderator is cringeworthy. Like the debate but "I'm going to insert myself, say Last Jedi is best, not highlight any reasons for that and then criticize others" attitude is irritating.
That doesn't seem like a fair characterization. She gives some reasons, she indicates how it really affected her, etc. She also did the typical moderator thing, which is to give the panel time to think while filling time and communicating some energy to the audience. I don't think it's any accident that the rest of the panel could give specific and direct answers after she handed it over to them.
@nothinissound That's part of the joke mate. She's obviously feigning a fight for comic effect. This is standard moderator humour. From the looks of things, she's playing it loose so that the rest of them can play it straight.
"A beautiful love letter to everything that came before it." she says. First of all Movies are supposed to be stories, not "love letters" to other movies - the entire thing is completely meta, it has scenes that evoke the other movies - it's more like a dour, miserable funeral for starwars then a love letter. Secondly WTF everyone in the resistance is a complete idiot in TLJ. Holdo, Poe, Finn, Rose, Luke and even rey make stupid decisions with disastrous consequences. Holdo not telling poe the plan. Poe sending Finn and Rose out instead of more seasoned agents (and without weapons?). Everyone in the resistance is going to die but Maz has to stay home over a 'labor dispute'. Finn and Rey nearly blow the mission over parking in the wrong spot, then hire a codebreaker who betrays them, etc. All stupid, pointless decisions.
@@takanara7 "First of all Movies are supposed to be stories, not 'love letters'"
Whoosh.
Catfactory you’re a little out of touch bud
*Lady starts talking about The Last Jedi in positive ways*
Everyone else: Amazing, every word of what you just said, was wrong.
Haha!
Why would she say she didn't like the "Clone Wars" movie? Does she mean the original animated version? I thought she could have been talking about "Attack of the Clones." Then again, she could have meant contemporary Clone Wars (I guess). Why would she even risk insulting the panel like that? Does she even know what she's talking about? Definitely not high on the emotional intelligence scale. And TLJ was poorly written soap opera-ish trash.
@@wj3186 She's clearly talking about *The Clone Wars movie.* As in, the movie they made to kick off TCW tv show of the same name. Look it up, it's a thing. There is only one clone wars movie and that's literally called Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Attack of the Clones is Attack of the Clones. Not hard to see a clear difference here unless you've never heard of TCW show having had a movie, which it seems so.
She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
Sam has said he dislikes TLJ too
4:07 "You're all wrong and that's okay" Clearly it is okay to be wrong but not for you huh.
@@AlyxYTP That's a bs excuse and you know it.
@@AlyxYTP you really think I said that without sarcasm?
@@AlyxYTP Let's say it was a joke....okay. She said it 3 times? It didn't get a laugh the first time and got more awkward with the 2nd and 3rd time....plus she's a moderator for them...it's not about her at all.
@@TeamBringIt8 There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
@@Zw285 There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
Sam: says literally ANYTHING
Commentator: Hostile nodding intensify*
I think she’s nodding in agreement. You’ve characterised it as hostile because you can’t fathom someone having a different opinion on a film with you, having the same opinion on another film.
There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
Moderator is too typical lmao u can tell she wanted to tell everybody she loves the sequels and her reasoning was absolutely absurd and laughable lmao
She probably hasn’t even seen the Original Trilogy, just one of those “ThE fOrCe Is FeMaLe” types.
You people are embarrassing
Lewis nah what’s embarrassing is what star wars has become and anybody who supports the direction and im assuming u fall in that category lmfao
Anthony Martinez I don’t even like the Last Jedi. I also don’t like cunts who don’t let people have different opinions over films.
Lmao what reasoning? She just said things that could be said about virtually any Star Wars movie. She has no clue what she's talking about
"Everyone wants to make Jedi Luke Skywalker, but you CAN'T make that without Toshi Station Luke Skywalker. Ahsoka Tano, same thing. Ahsoka does _awfully!_ Early in the Clone Wars, she's messing up left and right, *and then she builds herself up."*
Unlike some other Jedi protagonist we might know...
Sam mentioned Krull. (and Beastmaster) He is now my favorite.
When tf did the last Jedi honour Leia or anything that came before it? Did she even watch the same damn movie ?
The movie turned Leia into a meme with that marry Poppins moment. That's not honouring Leia
"the more I watch The Last Jedi - the more I think it's a beautiful love note for EVERYTHING that came before".... - Ahahahaha what?... it's literally a deconstruction, subversion, mockery, and plain disgrace to everything George Lucas created Star Wars to be and represent.
Disney butchered the whole franchise.
@Dark Jedi He aint wrong lol
@@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6 saying animals are abused is fine its not like people are gonna walk out vegan. The only system that does exist is capitalism communism is just state capitalism so pointing out elitist is bad isn't empowering. How much of a soy are you if luke can't think of making a mistake. It never says there's no difference between good and evil they make dj look like an idiot and luke says I won't be the last jedi. No I've clearly been with star wars long enough to understand more than you it's not even a higher level of understanding its just that I prefer a good story rather than luke making love to the ghost of a jedi inside a droid inside his ship you guys are shills.
@@heathhersom6579 shill.
Deconstruction and Subversion shouldn't be a dirty word, it's just that Last Jedi was shit. Look at Knights of the Old Republic 2 for a good subversion and deconstruction of star wars.
@@omega1397 agreed. Deconstruction is one of my favorite things in story telling. However, what Johnson did isn't what i would call a "deconstruction", more like tearing the paper apart piece by piece.
"TLJ is a love letter".....wtf is she on? It was a giant middle finger
It's a love letter to itself. It loves itself so much and it's so amazing and spectacular. Everyone looking for Luke in EP7? they all forget about him. Majestic Jedi Master in white at the end of Ep7? turned into a deranged Hobo. That new mysterious super bad guy Snoke? He's a nobody and they kill him. I have never seen a sequel do so much 180 on every single plot element. Fynn got badly wounded at the end of 7. What happens with that? nothing he just walk about in a bubble suit that squirt cum for a few minutes and that lightsaber back stab is never mentioned again. Even the movie that comes after does 180 on things that were done 180 on in Ep8.
The Last Jedi was not a love note to what came before, it did not set anything up, it was not daring, it was not brave, and it was not a glorious tribute to Leia.
The meme actually applies here because it's amazing how every single word of what she said was wrong.
She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
"Love note that came before..."
...that jaded Jake Skymilker tosses over his shoulder within the first few minutes.
That's not the whole movie. Hero needs to go down so he can rise again.
Kung Olaf If the hero needs to go down, it has to be in a GOOD way.
@@kungolaf4499 Rise how? By dying without actually helping?
@@kungolaf4499 They don't show his fall they show what he's like AFTER a fall.
The more I learn about Sam, the more I like him.
I’m shocked Sam manages to stay calm during that lady was talking about her thoughts on the last Jedi, he really has some manors and respects others.
I'm surprised when the dude on the left said his favorite movie was Last Jedi Sam didn't spit his water while drinking lol
@@dr.robotnick1888 He clearly said his favorite movie is Empire and his least favorite is TLJ. Listen to it again, closely.
*manners
Why it surprises people that people can be civil is strange. It isnt THAT difficult to state your opinion without flying off the handle
Sam is a true Star Wars fan! He gets every aspect
"They're all wrong answers" lol imagine them saying that to her (sam does, but hes cool about it).
There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
@@Vandicoup you literally analyzed laughter. Good job being ironic
@@Wildbilliv1820 No, I'm saying she's also being cool about it too. She's clearly being sarcastic here and isn't trying to be a douche and yet, a lot of people are too dense to realize that and they would rather seek out drama where there is none. Everyone clearly had a great time at that panel and there was no tension whatsoever that emanated in the room. Just yet another normal, fun little fan/celeb get-together.
Sam is such a genius. He's right there next to Dave Filoni.
Sam is one of my favorite actors of all time
Sjw's: wHiTe mALeS!!
You guys are proof manhood is dead you hate on movies that's only bias is some writers and you need laws to protect yourself against women pathetic.
bruhmieter568 I don't like the last Jedi because they ruin Luke completely
The last Jedi is a god awful Star wars movie it actually made me not be a fan of Star Wars for a bit
Same. I had 0 hype for Solo. You could've asked any of my friends and family. I disregarded the existence of Star Wars for months
MCU HQ Same. Which is sad cause I ended up enjoying Solo and felt bad for hating before I even saw it cause the last jedi just pissed me off.
Minus Solo I didn't look , watch or read anything Star Wars related because I was so sick to my stomach with how disrespectful and how awful it was.
Yeah, Last Jedi really put me off star wars. After that I was way more invested in Marvel for Infinity War and Endgame. It took Jedi Fallen Order to get me back into it.
fav episode 3 ,,, least fav a tie episode 8,9 and im 46 been a fan since day one... My favorite content, Is clone wars and rebels.. with mando close behind
My fav is episode 3 that shit was good
She disliked clone wars movies and said 8 was best.
The universe "you now have the death sentence of 10 sistems"
Not to be THAT guy, but systems*
That lady said The Clone Wars was bad and TLJ was the best??? Am I the only one who thinks this lady is delusional? TLJ completely destroyed Star Wars. I want to believe that TLJ is not canon.
You can think whatever you want about the Clone Wars, but did not disrespect Star Wars the way the Last Jedi did.
She was talking about the The Clone Wars *movie. She said movie right after TCW, fyi. There's a movie made for it and it is considered the weakest of the entire saga, I don't necessarily disagree, even though I personally love the movie they made for the show, but I do agree it was too early to make a movie for TCW at that time. Still worth watching, especially after you finish the entire show. Means so much more in the aftermath! :)
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi She was talking about the The Clone Wars *movie. She said movie right after TCW, fyi. There's a movie made for it and it is considered the weakest of the entire saga, I don't necessarily disagree, even though I personally love the movie they made for the show, but I do agree it was too early to make a movie for TCW at that time. Still worth watching, especially after you finish the entire show. Means so much more in the aftermath! :)
There's nothing wrong with her. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
I know Sam, but who are the other people on the panel and what are they known for? Even tell me who the moderator is so I can avoid her.
There's nothing wrong with her, you're reading waay too much into it, bud. There was very clearly a solid amount of laughter at 1:10, the first time she said it. And in 3:40, Sam quipped back and it was again, clearly all in good fun. And lastly, in 3:50 she said it a 2nd and final time and there was still some laughter if you listen closely. She only said it twice and it's again just fooling around. I know and have seen MANY fans say this and it's all just jokes at the end of the day. Do you understand what sarcasm is? She was being sarcastic and wasn't being obnoxious about it. She even said, at 4:36 "We've been waiting!!" to the fans as yet another joke, but self-deprecating in a sense, that they were waiting for someone to finally share to them a favorite SW movie that's not TLJ. It's pretty obvious. People like to read into stuff too much online either that or they are too dense and miss the point completely or a little bit of both.
She did say it was a controversial opinion after all. So, give her that at least. She's self-aware and isn't acting above anyone with her opinions. She even said that's her opinion. The beauty of Star Wars is that we can have discussions and debates, no need to shut anyone down for having something that differs from your own personal opinion on fictional entertainment.
Nothing in The Last Jedi fits into the star wars universe even before JJ retconned it.
It's an abomination and pulsing middle finger to the fans and Lucas's story
I like it but I though Sam made a great criticism towards it. Star Wars is great because it can bring great discussion
I liked the last jedi, as with every other film. But this woman just went around saying "you're wrong" all I could do was just sigh.
The look on Sam's face while she blathers on about TLJ was one of quiet inner disgust. Good heavens, he was so diplomatic in his response which deconstructed her nonsense in such a tactful way. Girl didn't even understand that she got one shotted!
There's literally 0 cheers when that woman says her favorite is TLJ. That just shows how awful the movie is.
My favorite Star Wars movie in the prequels revenge of the sith my favorite of the originals empire strikes back my favorite of the sequels the rise of Skywalker
These people screwed Star Wars lol.
The only ones I don’t like are 2, 8 and 9
I agree whole heartily with 2 and 8 but for me 9 was a decent attempt for what JJ had to work with. "Okay so Ryan's screwed your plan for this trilogy and not explored enough of the character depth, but uhhh you mind doing all that and bringing in a new villian in this final film dude?"
See my problem is this, episode 7 wasn’t bad, it was a good start, it gave you what seemed to be good and compelling characters (minus Rey) and was setting something up but then 8 came out and ruined what could have been, I thought that Finn would have been like a Kyle Katarn character and learn the way of the force, and then 9 could have been great but it spent most of its screen time fixing what episode 8 screwed up, it just saddens me that what we got is well, final. It doesn’t feel right
Big Ron I like episode 1 and 2 but I will fast forward not gonna lie lololol I’ll watch the trade federation scene at the beginning, skip through naboo a bit skip through Tattooine, watch pod racing for the laughs, and ill watch the last act without skipping. Episode 3 is rad. I like 4-6. 7 is good/safe. Neutral for me. 8 and 9 are eh.
@@Inkbud I mean he did not have to retcon TLJ, it could have easily gone the direction of making Kylo the main villain without him having to redeem himself like Vader's arc in episode 6. The movie was very messy and despite TLJ being controversial, there was plenty to work with and make a cohesive movie, not try to jam two movies worth of content into one. 2, 8, and 9 are my personal least favorites as well.
A love letter? Maybe a love letter to Rey Palpatine, Rose Tico and lady from jurassic Park (which was a a way better character and lovable person in that film). Everyone else is a shitty parent, uncle, leader... Total failures.
I wish Laura Dern had a better written character to play than Holdo in Last Jedi.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of the last jedi?
0:44 "Sets itself up for so many beautiful new adventures..." lmao, what? All the set up was destroyed and replaced with next to nothing interesting in TLJ. It may as well have been the last Star Wars movie, because there was so little to go off by the end of it (other than what we already saw before, Rebels defeating the Empire, whoa so groundbreaking and beautiful).
The sequels was a Chick flick trilogy
Love for Sam, the big man
If you like the last jedi I don't think you understand why people don't like it or what's wrong with it. It ruins so many things that we all know and love about star wars.
same with RIse of Skywalker
@@golden5186 not really all it does is bring Palpatine back and he clones himself in legends so it makes sense. In the last jedi Luke is completely ruined and a completely different character! Leia survives being in space, rose saves fin when fin is trying to save the entire resistance! What's wrong with rise of Skywalker?
@@willfield9881 I know many decent ST fans who truly love and cherish the Star Wars saga, even TLJ fans who completely understand why people don't like it and why there's many problems with it. I don't think you understand that just because someone likes something, they don't believe it to be completely void of any flaws whatsoever and even if someone believes that so? As long as they're not being jerks about it (unlike that female moderator in this video hehe) and are willing to listen to polite arguments and respond back politely without belittling, then what's so bad about that? All art is subjective, everyone has their own opinions on entertainment. Many ST fans are decent, normal people who simply just like what they like, understand that there's even flaws to what they like (just as there's many flaws with everything else, nothing is perfect) and aren't being total jerks about it. I know there's a lot of ST fans out there who are the exact opposite, but don't let those crazy twitter/social media in general folk cloud your vision. Millions of people enjoyed the Sequels and millions of people don't. The overwhelming majority are decent, normal human beings. Social media is but a fraction.
Least favorite is tfa,best is tpm. Rots is second best and tlj is second worst. Just my opinion.
i like last jedi for different reasons. kylos going through his bit of trauma and snoke bashing him for losing in the last film, i actually like the reveal that rey is no one and just a survivalist who happens to be force sensitive, i liked the tensions between poe and holdo. the first half of scenes with rey and luke.
my dislikes were luke throwing his fathers saber over his shoulder, the discussion is the last time he saw it his father cut his hand off with it which probably gave him trauma, but i still disagree because its played out for laughs. reys mystery being dragged out only to be revealed she is no one. fins arc being shoved to the side. from the last film i wanted to see fin and rey become a jedi. luke banishing himself for considering killing ben out of fear. luke banishing himself in general goes against everything the original trilogy established because why wouldnt he want to help his sister regardless of what he has done.
all in all even with its flaws its still watchable compared to tros. i think that film becomes to fan servicy that it flat out destroys the entire franchise. i think that one is the worst. tlj couldve been salvaged even after what its done but tros incinerates everything it stood by. from bring back palpatine to ben solos death and rey taking the skywalker name and banishing herself to not train the next jedi.
Sam is literally tellin her that's how u make a character great not someone that's inherently strong u build it up
I love the originals because the started it all, We got to fall in love with people like Luke, Leia, Han, Chewbacca, Vader, etc. watch fantastic fights of its times, vehicles like the T-65 X-Wing, the Tie Fighter, the AT-AT, etc. I could go in about this.
But my favorite episode is Episode 1: I love that because I always wanted to know why the Republic fail, and how the Sith came to be. Episode one went to show that the government was to blame. Slow moving, unreliable, even the Jedi who were praised in the originals were shown to be nothing more than Monks with a stick. Trying to mediate the galaxies problems and getting nowhere.
My least is the Sequels. I’ll be honest just watching them was like getting a gut punch. It could have been done a lot better. I love legends and the expanded universe and to see that there is no mention of Mara, Jaina, Anakin Solo, or any of the stuff that was brought up in the comics and books. It’s like JJ, went and created a whole new timeline. Maybe I’m over thinking this but like I said, I’m not saying the direction was a bad one, but.....it could have been better made. Or at least with the timeline established.
My favorite Star Wars movie is backstroke of the west. Yeah I said it
Haha!
Sam WITWER 💕
fuck I love Sam
How you moderating a convo like this when you obviously have never watched Star Wars.
I love TLJ too. Hate episode 1, 2 and 9.
jpghiva good for you! Glad you can find enjoyment in it. Episode 9 was pretty bad though, but JJ got control of the them wrested form him by Kathleen Kennedy and Disney. It’s too bad that we did not see a movie that he truely made.
I wished I like TLJ
@@heathhersom6579 Yeah me too. I see so many people talking wonders about it, I have tried so many times to like it. Saw a bunch of videos praising, talked with people offline and online, still just ok to me.
Good for you, you're allowed to have really bad taste in movies.
Ayee you like revenge of the Sith thouu
I'm with her. When I saw TLJ all I got was a ton of thoughtful affection for Star Wars, what it was, is, and might become. We got to see Luke reflect on his own life and legacy. We got to see him struggle and grow, even as a master. We got to see Leia use the force---a promise kept from Episode VI---and it was badass. We also got to see more of her mature personality: her quiet command of a room, in contrast to her sharp and imperial tone in the original series. We got to see Kylo finally have his own thoughtful and sympathetic ambitions. We got to see Rey hope, fail, and find tranquility in accepting herself. We got to see Po get both a 3rd dimension and a full character arc.
I was blown away. It was much more than I'd hoped for after TFA.
Yawn....
Uhhhhh...okay
Lmfao somebody must of been dropped as a baby. Leia’s use of the force badass??? They legit made her look absolutely HILARIOUS at that part and it looked so uncool and at the same time it was so cringe
Plus, her surviving while in space is just ridiculous, doesn’t matter if it was Sidious, if you were exposed in space you WOULD DIE 😂
@@Ethan-hk8se A human could survive for over a minute in the vacuum of space, especially if they exhaled before decompression. Whether they would remain fully conscious past thirty seconds is a different question. But if you really think that Leia surviving ~90 seconds in the vacuum of space is so implausible, then I recommend you not watch space operas to begin with. In Star Wars, force sensitives jump as high as small buildings, fall even greater distances, get cut in half, survive full-body burns and multiple amputation, extended electrocution, and run literally at a blur --- and that's not even counting the powers which are just straight up magic. It's the sort of thing that can happen in this universe.