REACTING TO ANTI-VEGAN COMMENTS FROM TIKTOK (oh dear god...)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @IreneRudnyk
    @IreneRudnyk 3 года назад +260

    Whenever I scroll through TikTok and see a vegan video I already know that the comments are going to be insane. I usually have to force myself not to read them to not loose faith in humanity

    • @watchdominiondocumentary266
      @watchdominiondocumentary266 3 года назад +14

      You have to be a masochist to enjoy arguing about veganism on tiktok

    • @DamnTastyVegan
      @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +4

      Yes! The comment section bums me out so much. I have to be careful how much I engage. but I also want to advocate for the animals! I just need to pace myself better so I don't start hating everyone LOL!

    • @CheapLazyVegan
      @CheapLazyVegan  3 года назад +53

      yup, and it pains me because TikTok demographic is sooo extra and proud of how "woke" they are so you'd expect that veganism would be respected/welcomed. But no, it's actually the worst LOL

    • @DamnTastyVegan
      @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +19

      @@CheapLazyVegan Right! It's the new "woke" thing on there to say veganism is "classist, racist and anti-indigenous" by people who don't really know the meaning of the movement.

    • @IreneRudnyk
      @IreneRudnyk 3 года назад +14

      @@CheapLazyVegan right they are woke until it’s something that actually requires work.

  • @shauniebnaturalista6672
    @shauniebnaturalista6672 3 года назад +214

    People understand analogies. What you are experiencing over on TikTok is willful ignorance.

    • @sabahalilovic2245
      @sabahalilovic2245 3 года назад +5

      I wish I could like this comment twice 😂

    • @TessavandieKaap
      @TessavandieKaap 3 года назад

      People fool themselves.

    • @user-we6ks6pw5j
      @user-we6ks6pw5j 3 года назад

      it's true, though. people think that comparing is equating and it's extremely frustrating

  • @daniheart4582
    @daniheart4582 3 года назад +199

    "some animals are meant to be eaten" why though? Who decided that?

    • @BooksToAshes
      @BooksToAshes 3 года назад +66

      And then get mad when in other countries eat meat that they don't approve of eating (dogs, cats, etc.) To me it's all the same, animals suffer the same regardless of species yet they can't see that :/

    • @CheapLazyVegan
      @CheapLazyVegan  3 года назад +41

      we decided it therefore it is the law of the Universe apparently 🙄

    • @kallisi7625
      @kallisi7625 3 года назад +31

      @Doug M for nature and evolution, all animals can be eaten, doesn't mean we should. Either for moral reasons or health reasons. I won't eat any frog I find in the forest because I know that some can be poisonous, but I also won't eat frog in restaurants because it is not necessary for my health, and I also don't want to eat sentient beings when I don't need it.
      Nature and evolution is not a "source" of why say dogs can't be eaten but cows can. And even if we can, doesn't mean that we should.

    • @yaash4123
      @yaash4123 3 года назад +13

      @Doug M should humans eat other humans if they have evolved to, or it's in their nature to do so? (Because humans can eat other humans)

    • @HejTuNatalia
      @HejTuNatalia 3 года назад +9

      This is a religious idea I think. So "god" decided that 🤣

  • @DH-uw3us
    @DH-uw3us 3 года назад +91

    As someone who is vegan but doesn't consider myself an animal lover, it always amazes me how passionate people become about animal cruelty when it comes to dogs, but say nothing about how a chicken, cow, or pig got on their plate. People are literally giving out death threats over dogs. The hypocrisy is something else. When are people going to see that dogs are no better than any other animal? Its like there's a hierarchy in their minds that put dogs on top, then cats, pigs, chickens, and cows last.

    • @thatgirlwithherheadinthecl8777
      @thatgirlwithherheadinthecl8777 3 года назад +1

      Fuck yes say it louder girl I fucking hate those hypocrites

    • @anyamiranda9452
      @anyamiranda9452 3 года назад

      "Dogs are no better than any other animal"... *says who?* Vegans' subjective opinion isn't tHe tRuTh. Yes, there is a hierarchy, just like in everything else. Get over it.

    • @DH-uw3us
      @DH-uw3us 3 года назад +2

      @@anyamiranda9452 Just curious, why do you think there's a hierarchy to animals?

    • @ayylmao9582
      @ayylmao9582 3 года назад +6

      @@anyamiranda9452 ???? any hierarchy we give to animals is completely subjective, demonstrated by the fact that dogs and many other animals we love in western society are routinely killed and eaten as a part of other cultures. its not as if animals were created with some having more inherent importance than others?? these things are entirely subject to cultural views, and they shift and change with public opinion. sorry to type so much but this really is a confusing take lmao

    • @anyamiranda9452
      @anyamiranda9452 3 года назад

      I'm sorry. Just yesterday a horrible thing has happened. It made me consider veganism.

  • @DamnTastyVegan
    @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +93

    I'm glad you're on tik tok. The way you break things down and start discussions is priceless. People on there call me judgy and say I'm acting "morally superior" just by sharing a damn recipe. Plus, the farmers on there are spreading so much nonsense and trying to create this dialogue that "vegans are lying" and "there is no animal abuse, look we treat our cows so nice"

    • @gabbienungaray107
      @gabbienungaray107 3 года назад +6

      Lol” treat cows nice” , killing is nice? Lol I think cows are so cute.

    • @DamnTastyVegan
      @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +5

      @@gabbienungaray107 Exactly! They don't get that slitting their throats is abuse.

    • @MM-mu5pz
      @MM-mu5pz 3 года назад +5

      Not to equate farm animals with slavery but I think there were and probably still are plenty of idiots out there saying “but slave owners treated their slaves well, because they wouldn’t want to damage their property” and it’s such a similar line of illogical thinking that makes me want to smash my head into a wall

    • @DamnTastyVegan
      @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +2

      @@MM-mu5pz Yes! Did you see that Chelsea HAndler tik tok? She interviewed people in the south who said those exact workds

    • @CheapLazyVegan
      @CheapLazyVegan  3 года назад +4

      thank you! Literally though, tiktok is kinda the worst! LOL like i love it and hate it at the same time

  • @dalemills8052
    @dalemills8052 3 года назад +37

    To the "high horse" commentator, I would have said, " why don't you climb up here with me and check out the view I see?"

  • @miss420mj
    @miss420mj 3 года назад +44

    A few times I've heard someone say "animals sacrifice themselves for us". 😶
    My usual response is along the lines of "Animals don't go throwing themselves onto swords or cutting their own heads off for humans to eat. They are Tortured and then Slaughtered in masses by humans, only for a large portion of it to get wasted because they overkill these poor animals".

    • @miss420mj
      @miss420mj 3 года назад +1

      Obviously I don't condone animal abuse and my wording may not have been the greatest, but trying to point out some of the gruesome facts that non-vegans don't realize. That combined with the living conditions, the fact we get better/firsthand protein from what the animals eat and pollution it's causing to our waterways and land altogether is a solid argument. It usually brings to the conversation how we're (trying to be) evolved beings, so humans should no longer be killing and eating animals. I mean (preferably not, but) if you absolutely feel you need to eat animals, you should have to do it all yourself and it Not be readily available at a store. It's sickening how far they'll go to mask the rotting smell when it's overdue and they relabel it as "special flavour" or something of that sort. Even worse is that people buy it and wonder why they feel sick afterwards. 🤦‍♀️
      Most people wouldn't eat an animal because they couldn't actually kill it themselves. I couldn't ever kill an animal, let alone think about doing so...
      I'll stick with vegan, thanks!!

    • @rosariosiordia1106
      @rosariosiordia1106 3 года назад

      These animals value their lives, just like us humans value our lives. Animals “sacrificing” themselves for us makes zero sense to me. It truly amazes me what people will say to make themselves feel good about what they consider to be “normal”.

  • @tommymarquez209
    @tommymarquez209 3 года назад +96

    To all my vegans …thank you 🌱❤️

  • @johnnyli4702
    @johnnyli4702 3 года назад +101

    "That is the society we live in, and this is why I hate everybody."

    • @sarahowick5456
      @sarahowick5456 3 года назад +4

      best comment of the video. same for me. people suck, ha.

    • @ciyoduhkriter
      @ciyoduhkriter 3 года назад +1

      We live in a society.

    • @redd-qh4xn
      @redd-qh4xn 3 года назад

      That reason why I became vegan and misanthrope in the first place, will veganism led me to be a misanthrope.

  • @lindseymarie7228
    @lindseymarie7228 3 года назад +117

    I love Roses reactions to things haha you should make a series “Complaining about things while in bed”

    • @CheapLazyVegan
      @CheapLazyVegan  3 года назад +18

      this is episode 2.... i shall film episode 3 soon LMFAO

    • @lindseymarie7228
      @lindseymarie7228 3 года назад +1

      @@CheapLazyVegan haha excellent. Tiny bed rants 😂 it’s like mukbangs but you need some relaxation and comfort to soothe the moment

    • @reck711
      @reck711 3 года назад

      @@CheapLazyVegan I suggest "whining wednesday" or "ranty resttime" or "complaining between cushions"

    • @cmntr_
      @cmntr_ 3 года назад

      @@reck711 those are really good suggestions imo

  • @NatalieWisler
    @NatalieWisler 3 года назад +187

    Imagine being against being kind to animals 🤢

    • @Assassin99584
      @Assassin99584 3 года назад +5

      Using Animals as defence mechanism🤦‍♂️

    • @VeganSemihCyprus33
      @VeganSemihCyprus33 3 года назад +4

      Will never understand people who oppose veganism, probably because I am not a sociopath

    • @Assassin99584
      @Assassin99584 3 года назад +2

      @@VeganSemihCyprus33 so you don’t understand why people oppose the vegan death cult 😂

    • @Assassin99584
      @Assassin99584 3 года назад +1

      @ more vegan cult projection

    • @Assassin99584
      @Assassin99584 3 года назад +1

      @ more projection and delusion
      Typical vegan cult drone

  • @Jess-dm8hl
    @Jess-dm8hl 3 года назад +56

    There’s so much anti vegan hate on tiktok. I think it’s mostly bc of how young people are (hence they aren’t very mature) and the horrible influence from that vegan teacher. Thanks for standing up & spreading truth

  • @KateLJ1799
    @KateLJ1799 3 года назад +8

    omg that first TikTok you posted was sooo accurate!!!!! i have so many people on facebook who will share posts about abused dogs and literally type stuff like that and then these are the same people who also share jokes about vegans with laughing emojis. the cognitive dissonance is so insane that it makes me feel like i'm going insane myself! it's so grounding to have vegans like you to remind me that i'm not alone!

  • @tboo1760
    @tboo1760 3 года назад +22

    Rose I just love how outspoken you have been about the ethics of eating and using animals. I know you have always been an ethical vegan but I feel like you have really been leaning into the philosophy of veganism and I am here for it.

  • @painlesslyvegan
    @painlesslyvegan 3 года назад +4

    This is so frustrating. I've been making vegan content on and off for about 5 years and I surprisingly haven't received any rude comments until I made a tiktok.

  • @The14roscoe
    @The14roscoe 3 года назад +57

    Whenever you see a vegan TV character, it seems to be a negative thing. The press also like to forward the narrative that vegans are preachy, negative and are trying to take away all the things that people love.
    So I'm not suprised by the attitudes of some people. We just need to keep being positive. I know my friends attitudes have started to change (slightly) as they see me thriving.

    • @ashhcatchemall
      @ashhcatchemall 3 года назад +1

      True whenever there is a vegan like say on a cooking show, they don't get far over the dumbest reasons. I think sometimes it's just set up, tv producers probably are bribed by meat companies so that they have to be careful not to make the vegans look good.

    • @SladeShadows
      @SladeShadows 3 года назад

      Lol right like characters from TotalDramaIsland or Darth vegan from johnny test.

    • @rust-2450
      @rust-2450 3 года назад +1

      Except Beast Boy from teen titans, we love Beast Boy in this house

    • @cmntr_
      @cmntr_ 3 года назад

      Maybe this will change in the future. Look at lgbt+ representation in the media, especially movies and series, in the 2000's and compare it to the last 10ish years.

  • @ignasicolominas4582
    @ignasicolominas4582 3 года назад +30

    These type of videos I loove so much. Because it reinforces my point of view upon (not) eating animal-derived products. It makes me feel like I am not alone 🥲

    • @CheapLazyVegan
      @CheapLazyVegan  3 года назад +7

      awww i'm glad! will keep making these types of videos :)

    • @whitalleys5893
      @whitalleys5893 3 года назад +3

      Ignasi, I love your name! I had a great grandparent from Slovakia with the Slavic version of that name and have never seen anyone else with it.

  • @jenp1032
    @jenp1032 3 года назад +60

    I love these videos bc i feel like i learn so much about how to better structure my arguments and to be a better animal activist! You’re always so well spoken and clear in your beliefs and it’s very refreshing to hear someone actually explaining the full arguments

    • @CheapLazyVegan
      @CheapLazyVegan  3 года назад +7

      Aww thank you!!! So happy they're helping - gotta knock down all the dumb arguments 😊

    • @chloe2264
      @chloe2264 3 года назад +5

      Agreed! I was thinking this too!

    • @chocol8me
      @chocol8me 3 года назад +3

      I couldn't have said it better myself Jen!

    • @Holldizzle
      @Holldizzle 3 года назад +2

      Yesssss, exactly. I feel better prepared to handle arguments against veganism because of Rose!

  • @G00-t9x
    @G00-t9x 3 года назад +17

    When you talked about Never let me go, I felt like sharing an anime show named Promised Neverland.
    Its about humans being bred as livestocks for aliens. There are "vegan" aliens too, trying to convince the other aliens that they dont require human meat to survive. The human eating aliens are totally using the same arguments that I have heard irl. Its really good and emotional, and can make you think about stuff irl :)

  • @adhiantos
    @adhiantos 3 года назад +77

    Me: “tells some anti vegan about health, ethical environmental impacts of consuming animal products”
    Troll: you need to stop feeling more superior than us
    Me: ????!!!!!

    • @DamnTastyVegan
      @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +13

      Yeah, they love that argument. Makes no sense. Like, we're not in veganism to feel "better than everyone". We go vegan because we are horrified of the animal abuse in animal agriculture. Has nothing to do with our egos.

    • @parkerdinhwilliams15
      @parkerdinhwilliams15 3 года назад +6

      @@DamnTastyVegan Classic response to this: “But I care about the environment and animals too!! I JUST DONT PREACH ABOUT IT! Besides, I get my meat from sustainable farms and I only eat chicken and fish, I BARELY eat red meat!!!”
      It’s so hard not to hit people in the face sometimes.

    • @judithfinelli6916
      @judithfinelli6916 3 года назад +3

      Who are you to tell me I can not feel superior for my choices? Get over it. Nancy

    • @DamnTastyVegan
      @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +4

      @@parkerdinhwilliams15 Lol! Seriously! Everyone eats "local humane meat and only a little bit and only eggs, fish and chicken and oh yeah, sometimes steak, but it was sung to before it got its throat slit open" when they talk to vegans.

    • @ashhcatchemall
      @ashhcatchemall 3 года назад +5

      When ppl say something around that I usually just say "I never said that but if that's how you feel, then that's how you feel." Cause then they have to own up to it lol.

  • @SilvanaLTD
    @SilvanaLTD 3 года назад +5

    The thing about the dog thing is also like...i can't do anything about how someone else treats their own dog. I can spread awareness about it, but there's nothing i can physically do to stop other people abusing their pets while i can stop eating animal products.

  • @devont3002
    @devont3002 3 года назад +30

    The tiktok algorithm is awful for vegans. All tiktok knows is I like videos with animals in them. So I get cute sanctuary videos and animal exploitation/abuse videos in equal measure even though I block every animal harmer account I see.

    • @aeaeae7
      @aeaeae7 3 года назад +9

      I get a bunch of dairy farmers for some reason. They are allllll over tiktok.
      One was acting all proud while showing off his cows which were housed in basically a steel box. It was gross seeing how delusional people are.

    • @devont3002
      @devont3002 3 года назад +6

      @@aeaeae7 Yes I’ve seen those too unfortunately. People are sick. Look how “cute” these exploited mother cows are!

    • @davidthescottishvegan
      @davidthescottishvegan 3 года назад +8

      I am glad I don't use Tiktok.

  • @BucketsLukas
    @BucketsLukas 3 года назад +6

    I get a lot of flack when comparing dogs to cows. They say dogs are pets, cows were meant for food. I usually say Why? What makes them any different? They are just brainwashed into thinking that, and that excuse may make them feel better to allow such horrible things happen to animals.

  • @ThatDayDreamer_
    @ThatDayDreamer_ 3 года назад +7

    I really admire vegans like you Rose
    I've been vegan for 4 years 5 months and I really don't have the energy to engage anymore it's so draining to have the same argument/conversation over and over again
    I don't have any vegan friends & I'm the only vegan in my household and I feel so alone

  • @azulluna1432
    @azulluna1432 3 года назад +45

    Your banana bread got my man hooked. We just celebrated 5 years. Love ya

    • @piau1798
      @piau1798 3 года назад +1

      Aw congrats! Also I have to try that banana bread now ☺️

    • @azulluna1432
      @azulluna1432 3 года назад +1

      Thanks

    • @azulluna1432
      @azulluna1432 3 года назад

      @@piau1798 Thabks

    • @davidthescottishvegan
      @davidthescottishvegan 3 года назад +1

      I am also vegan 5 years ago on the 22nd June which is this Tuesday so I will have to celebrate it.

    • @azulluna1432
      @azulluna1432 3 года назад +1

      @@davidthescottishvegan oh I meant 5 years dating. I've been vegan 3 years ☺

  • @francescacorvaia1803
    @francescacorvaia1803 3 года назад +8

    "Animals eat other animals" herbivorous animals actually exist and there are also some animals who decided to become "vegan" for example pandas, they are bears and so they are carnivores and at the beginning they were carnivores but they started to eat just bamboo...I think we all should do like pandas

  • @ArizonaFreakshow
    @ArizonaFreakshow 3 года назад +8

    Every rant video I so damn agree with you, like every single one of your arguments is so valid and I totally get your frustration. Keep spreading the vegan message for the animals. Victims that are being abused and murdered every. single. day. So no, we don't care about your tastebuds. And we're not gonna shut up.

    • @Assassin99584
      @Assassin99584 3 года назад +1

      Typical buzzwords and misinformation

  • @aeaeae7
    @aeaeae7 3 года назад +40

    My favorite thing about the "animals were meant to be eaten but I don't agree with how they are treated" is that they are saying the most paradoxical thing of all time.
    People think animals are meant to be treated like products but object to them being treated like products? Like if animals were "meant" to be eaten why do they care how they are treated? They aren't "meant" to be treated well according to them, they are only "meant" to be eaten.
    It really shows how brainwashed some people are. They actually ARE empathic to animals but they can't understand that it doesn't have to be this way. It's really depressing and frustrating.

    • @nosynosee3835
      @nosynosee3835 3 года назад +1

      I think it’s more nuanced than “animals should be treated like products but shouldn’t be treated like products.“
      And I assume that the nuance isn’t lost on you.
      Not saying I agree with that view, just that you can believe an animal shouldn’t live through harsh conditions even if you will ultimately eat it.
      Might not be a great analogy but I think of it as similar to someone being in prison. The way a security card treats people in prison says more about the security guard than it does about the people in captivity.

    • @aeaeae7
      @aeaeae7 3 года назад +4

      @@nosynosee3835 so what does it say about us that we take *innocent* animals and then kill them? And sell them? As products? I don't understand your analogy sorry. It's only "nuanced" because people want to think killing animals is the default thing to do when it doesn't need to be.

    • @TessavandieKaap
      @TessavandieKaap 3 года назад +2

      People would some times make this argument when they think about factory farm animals vs so called free range.
      The problems with that kind or thinking are :
      1. Free range animals are many time not truly free range. They could be in a big shed with many others, not in a small cage. But it’s still very poor conditions for them. Or they are just parts of there lives free range.
      2. It’s literally impossible to meet the huge demand for animal products when you practise it on free range agriculture . If humans want more free range animals it would mean they have to destroy even more of the little that is left of natural habitats and echo-systems on earth. Even if we have used all available land on earth, there won’t be enough space on earth to raise animals on a free range basis. It’s just not attainable.
      3. Even free range animals are treated very cruelly. Even if the cruelty happened just on the day of slaughter, the slaughter itself is so inhumane it should be reason enough to stop doing it.

  • @GreenVegan816
    @GreenVegan816 3 года назад +7

    Humans suck in so many ways. It's hard to feel good about being one. Your responses were great Rose! I appreciate and will use some of the points you made.

  • @toniwatson8401
    @toniwatson8401 3 года назад +20

    I follow you on TikTok and compared to other “sassy” vegans,, you are super tame. But some people just want to be OUTRAGED for any reason. 🤔🤨 It’s not like you’re “That Vegan Teacher” 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

  • @Sou_va7
    @Sou_va7 3 года назад +4

    I hear the sadness in her voice and it made me sad too!😔

  • @Lucx1Dx
    @Lucx1Dx 3 года назад +2

    This video was so cathartic, listening to someone voice my thoughts and actually make sense 😍 I hate people too, but not you 🌱

  • @natasaperun3242
    @natasaperun3242 3 года назад +12

    I'm on the half of your video, still ringing in my ears: 'some animals meant to be eaten'!!!! 🤬 Geeez, some persons are ignorant and withour soul! I am so glad to find your channel last year! Love from Serbia, Europe! ❤☀️ Vegan forever! 🌱💚

  • @ilovesustainableenergy9563
    @ilovesustainableenergy9563 3 года назад +12

    the person saying "as a vegan we don't claim you" when you simply pointed out the hypocrisy of meat eaters *eyeroll*

    • @frankchen4229
      @frankchen4229 3 года назад

      they're called apologists
      thats why i loathe liberals

  • @Sofo41
    @Sofo41 3 года назад +12

    thank you so much for speaking out for the animals. It seems like very few vegan RUclipsrs are doing so these days. This work can be so frustrating but it’s so important we don’t give up and keep trying to get people to wake up and see what they’ve been indoctrinated to not see. Thank you Rose ♥️

    • @sophieoril
      @sophieoril 3 года назад +1

      Vegan RUclipsrs aren’t doing it anymore because they’re sick of being called preachy :(

    • @Assassin99584
      @Assassin99584 3 года назад +1

      Projection

  • @lisaleigh3573
    @lisaleigh3573 3 года назад +6

    Omg thank you for this ! I love how you explain your thoughts . Its like you're taking the words from my head . Thanks for being a voice for the animals !

  • @lauradaisy1571
    @lauradaisy1571 3 года назад +11

    This kind of content is so smart, your answers are so beautiful. I would love to see more videos like this one, but yes, it is stressful to see such hypocrisy so I think you should just do a couple of these... I guess?

  • @skyyexplainsitall
    @skyyexplainsitall 3 года назад +8

    Rose saying "we live in a society" whilst having green hair IS SENDING ME😭 I love it lol

  • @hollieinan8329
    @hollieinan8329 3 года назад +1

    Ah, I scrolled for about 30 seconds and already want to JUST Egg someone's house. People really hate using their brains.
    Love your stuff Rose!

  • @jaimemara1
    @jaimemara1 3 года назад +6

    When people say that these animals were created for the purpose of food, seems like they agree with the premise of The Handmaids Tale….

  • @erinevans9292
    @erinevans9292 3 года назад +3

    Just commenting so hopefully more people will see this. Thank you Rose - you articulate everything I'm thinking when I see arguments like these.

  • @garden.of.thistles
    @garden.of.thistles 3 года назад +6

    I love the point about comparing ourselves to other animals, and how people choose whether they wish to be compared to other animals or not based on convince 🙄 You worded all of your points beautifully ✨

  • @femkeneleflo
    @femkeneleflo 3 года назад +1

    I love how much sense you make. It's interesting how some people who think of themselves as very rational, make the same "arguments" and when you respond with an actual rational argument, they'd say you're an extremist etc. So refreshing to hear someone who thinks the same way, I love these videos. Thanks, Rose! :)

  • @sunflowers2469
    @sunflowers2469 3 года назад +39

    young people (the tiktok demographic for example) not being vegan is so disappointing. it’s 2021. ffs

    • @captainowk459
      @captainowk459 3 года назад

      Yeah, but I guess their age is the reason for that.
      All people I know, me included, became vegan as young adults, though we already knew about it when we were much younger. But for several reasons it's just more complicated to become vegan/vegetarian for younger people, who aren't independent yet, when they are raised by meat-eaters.
      I had so much struggle with my parents as a teenager when I decided to quit eating meat from one day to the other, oh boi, and it took me a long time to gain enough confidence to do so 😂
      Lots of my friends were facing the same issues so most of them didn't even get started. I think kids nowadays still have the same problem.

    • @saisusato2871
      @saisusato2871 3 года назад

      @@captainowk459 Yea im 17 and its nearly impossible to complete control my own purchases rn but im doin' ma' best :D

    • @jayrose4748
      @jayrose4748 3 года назад

      Lol wtf just because someone was born a certain year doesn’t mean they have to be vegan

  • @DrBear-rk4qb
    @DrBear-rk4qb 3 года назад +3

    I would definitely be interested in more content like this from you, Rose! As long as it doesn't damage your mental health. Maybe just occasional reaction videos to bad TikTok takes. 🙂

  • @alfinou_13targaryen
    @alfinou_13targaryen 3 года назад +7

    very interesting video Rose! I love Never Let me Go, I use it very often with my 17-year-old students in class when we study the theme of progress (is it really progress?). That scene with the teacher in the school, when she decides to tell them the truth is so powerful!!! Thank you for the analogy!!!

  • @alexandrachristina2721
    @alexandrachristina2721 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for your activism, Rose ❤️ It's very important to bring the word out of the bubble, eventhough the comments are annoying us 😅 I think your words still plant a seed in the minds of the people who watch the tiktoks 🌱 Thank you and keep going ❤️🌱

  • @mondfalkin3781
    @mondfalkin3781 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for your eyeopening work. 4-5 years ago I did not understand and "see" it. Since 3 years I am eating plant based... and I feel soooo much better now energetically and emotional. I could change because of people like you 🤗💚 Now I learn to substitute eggs. I really liked your soya variant of scrambled "egg".

  • @lod2658
    @lod2658 3 года назад +1

    I've struggled with this analogy for years with myself. I hate animal abuse yet I myself eat animals. Because of this I finally made the change to vegetarian, 4 months ago. It's a struggle but in today's world it is made much easier and I'm getting better and better.. I feel like I was brainwashed by society to think I needed meat on every dish. Ive got to the point I really don't miss meat at all. Channels like your help me to transition.

  • @ReventonSpeed
    @ReventonSpeed 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for making this, it feels good knowing others echo my sentiments. I know these really put your patience on the line and I just wanted you to know it’s very much appreciated!

  • @jenniferfloyd8486
    @jenniferfloyd8486 3 года назад +2

    I"m so sharing this video with my teen, who often gets crap for being so passionate about animal welfare.

  • @iamalexandra.
    @iamalexandra. 3 года назад +6

    People do understand analogies, they're just committed to misunderstanding everyone they disagree with - welcome to social media's side effects. 💁 Also, just a side note: please don't say things like "People should love who they want", as you can't choose who you love or your sexual orientation ❤

  • @GS-lq2is
    @GS-lq2is 3 года назад +2

    Btw, "Never Let Me Go" was a novel by Kazuo Ishiguro (author of many wonderful books, including The Remains of the Day, which was also made into a great movie). I didn't know they made a movie version - I want to watch, so thanks!

  • @snowman2530
    @snowman2530 3 года назад +3

    I love this. Keep preaching!! You are planting seeds or at least flowering some potential vegan seeds.. Never stop speaking the truth especially when the victims are voiceless. If vegans don't speak out, who else will help the animals?? You have been advocating mostly vegan food for a long time, I already love it , but now it's like you develop into sort of a more direct activism. Love!

  • @v_zach
    @v_zach 3 года назад +5

    12:05. "And animals eat other animals too" Haha, indeed I haven't heard that one in a while. At least they didn't mention lions.

    • @ciyoduhkriter
      @ciyoduhkriter 3 года назад

      Everytime they mention about a carnivorous animal it's always the lion lol

  • @yasmineahm7082
    @yasmineahm7082 3 года назад +5

    I heard a great reply to, "Animals also eat other animals" once. It was, "But we know better."
    My personal response is, "Usually it's carnivores who NEED it, unlike humans."

  • @carolynmilheron2301
    @carolynmilheron2301 3 года назад +5

    If the farm industry would grow stuff like hemp, vegetables, fruit, beans, they profit and make a living just as well as the meat industry. Seems to me there are a hell of alot more recalls on meat than vegetables! I bet hardly any of a meat eater has been to a slaughter house or a meat market. Last year Rose, I had double breast cancer and my doctor told me if I wouldn't have been a vegan I might not have survived.

  • @allisonbanner2757
    @allisonbanner2757 3 года назад +1

    Rose, I love all your vegan cooking videos but these in bed complaining videos are great too because it is so good to talk about these topics. You are certainly a leader in the vegan community. Your videos make a difference in my life. Thank you for the compassion and true care you have for animals. I cant thank you enough for making these videos and caring about animals so much.

  • @DamnTastyVegan
    @DamnTastyVegan 3 года назад +12

    10:48 is classic "pick me" vegan

    • @ilovesustainableenergy9563
      @ilovesustainableenergy9563 3 года назад +1

      ikr Rose just pointed out the hypocrisy of meat eaters. it's so blatant, you don't even have to be vegan to see it.

  • @amybialek
    @amybialek 3 года назад +1

    Love you for being you and standing your ground, Rose! Hypocrisy is bliss for some. I am a vegan myself and couldn't agree with you more. Sending love from Brooklyn, NY xx

  • @davidthescottishvegan
    @davidthescottishvegan 3 года назад +5

    I agree with everything that Rose said and disagree with any anti vegan comments. Rose is so beautiful inside and out. This video makes me love ❤ Rose more. People that claim that they care about animals yet kill them are hypocrites because killing animals or a living being is the opposite of love. Love doesn't promote or get involved with violence so that women looking after pigs before killing them doesn't love the animals but rather loves the money/profit she makes from animal expoiltion.

  • @lindsaycomerallen2590
    @lindsaycomerallen2590 3 года назад +4

    I thoroughly love your videos! Thank you for your honesty, it is refreshing!

  • @fayem4091
    @fayem4091 3 года назад +5

    I am a vegan for 1.5 year now (Vegetarian for 2 years before that) and i still cannot answer in a good manner questions/attacks. Either i will say what i know and info dump or i will be trying to make something up and stutter along my arguments from the seer volume of them. So i am either prechy or "you clearly dont know what you talking about and i won the argument"
    I hate everything. I lost 2 very good friends due to me being vegan.
    We went to that one chinese place and i ordered my food and salad as vegan as possible (eg i didnt asked if soy sos had honey in it but i ordered it without eggs for instance). Everytime i heard well
    the pan has meat juice in there doesnt that bother you ?
    You should eat eggs your iron levels will tank down
    Well we are not here to being preached (while the only thing i said was i want this food to be without animal products please like honey eggs or milk products

  • @sha46327
    @sha46327 3 года назад +1

    "We already think that we're better than other animals, so let's act like it." - Cheap Lazy Vegan, 2021 ♥

  • @sleepyerin9
    @sleepyerin9 3 года назад +3

    HAHAHAH I love you!!! Everything you said was just so well put and delivered, you go gurlll💪🏻💋

  • @carletaschwontkowski7350
    @carletaschwontkowski7350 3 года назад +3

    You go girl !! AND this is why i don't do social media.

  • @nadiarambles
    @nadiarambles 3 года назад +3

    If I was on TikTok, I’d always comment some positivity under your vids! 💚 Unfortunately, it seems to be popular for users to troll and leave nasty comments on that platform more than others so I’ve kept my distance lol. Love that you’re turning negativity into entertainment, take care of yourself and keep at this great content!

  • @ReillyWilde
    @ReillyWilde 3 года назад +4

    You made valid points as usual, Rose.🌹 If response posts won’t harm your blood pressure & mental health, keep going. 🤔One can’t argue facts against feelings-based statements & expect positive progress & change in oneself or the world. 🌎 A true dialogue & openness to learning allows us to be the change we want for the world. R🍀

  • @julius_owens
    @julius_owens 3 года назад +5

    This is one of the most educational and inspiring video ever! I am already vegan and cruelty free, but I needed this because some of my thoughts I thought were just personal. But they are not and I think all vegans can relate to these experiences. Thank You for spreading your knowledge and making the world a better place!🙂

  • @edgbarra
    @edgbarra 3 года назад +11

    "Animals eat animals so it's not the same..." Yet animals kick animals too, does that make it OK?

    • @Hope00Love
      @Hope00Love 3 года назад +8

      Animals sniff each other butts and I'm not seeing any people adopting that greeting..

  • @aimes2011
    @aimes2011 3 года назад +5

    You can probably thank “That Vegan Teacher” for a lot of the anti-vegan sentiment on TikTok. She did a really good job of making vegans look bad.

    • @miriamwaalkens6325
      @miriamwaalkens6325 3 года назад +1

      I've never seen this. What would be the best one to watch to see how she made vegan look cray? There are a bunch of her videos and imma lazy.

    • @aimes2011
      @aimes2011 3 года назад

      Miriam Waalkens Yeah I don’t have a specific video for you. You’re just going to have to watch them.

  • @brileonn
    @brileonn 3 года назад +2

    Rose, I love you. I feel relieved when I watch your videos because I know you won't suddenly turn your back on veganism for some dumb reason. You truly understand the vegan cause and love the animals 💚 it's so frustrating that these people think what they're saying is so smart and unique, but we've all heard it a million times and NONE of it is logical or holds up as soon as you replace the pig/cow/chicken with a dog. So tired of people lolll

  • @whitalleys5893
    @whitalleys5893 3 года назад +5

    First off- you look super comfy and your hair looks really healthy!
    Second- I think those Tik Toks (like the pork industry one) might be an industry PR stunt. I could totally see that happening to try and pull a younger consumer group that is becoming more and more aware of the violence and negative environmental impact of the meat industry.
    Good for you being vocal- I have been “shut up” so many times out here in the Midwest. We even have pig farmers in my family ( :( ). I’m not vegan, I’m vegetarian and on a journey, but it was super hard to get started because I had family members trying to “sneak” meat into my food all the time. This is the sort of bullsh*t Rose is talking about. Consent yo... all around basic consent.

    • @annoyedaussie3942
      @annoyedaussie3942 2 года назад

      Sneaking meat into food is terrible if they are fully aware of your decision. I for example have a friend who is Muslim and I would never consider doing something like that and to me it's no different what your reason is. Hope that has stopped now.

  • @Emily-hd9sm
    @Emily-hd9sm 3 года назад +1

    I'm not even fully vegan, just here for inspiration as I try to reduce animal products in my diet, but damn, I do not understand all that hate toward people who have been able to make that switch 😥

  • @lindsayweathering
    @lindsayweathering 3 года назад +3

    Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro is one of my favorite books of all time!!!

  • @MJLevesque24
    @MJLevesque24 3 года назад +5

    Just followed you on TikTok. Honestly, I have to give props to the vegans on TikTok because I've noticed that there is quite a lot of hate toward us there. Seeing all that negativity can definitely be hard on your mental health. Peace :)

  • @glittergirlsparks
    @glittergirlsparks 3 года назад +4

    Stand up for what you believe in. ❣

  • @seaotter1975
    @seaotter1975 3 года назад +7

    The comment "But if we didn't eat the animals then they would over populate the planet. So we have to eat them." That's another comment that annoys me.

    • @waeulbr
      @waeulbr 3 года назад +1

      Yeah it's so stupid. We can just stop breeding them.

    • @seaotter1975
      @seaotter1975 3 года назад

      @@waeulbr and that's always my comeback to them, but it seems to go over their heads.

  • @tanyathompson4322
    @tanyathompson4322 3 года назад +5

    Deciding to eat /abuse one animal over another is hypocritical. It’s not right.

  • @mbrady199
    @mbrady199 3 года назад +2

    I think people's complacency of, or even "pro" stance on, exploitation of animals says all about them that I need to know. Don't give those people your time or energy.

  • @tinyfluff8152
    @tinyfluff8152 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for speaking up for the animals! I think much of the English speaking world now has enough knowledge about veganism that it is time to step up amplifying the ethical arguments. I say this as someone who was interested in plant based foods because of relatable vegan content like much of your older content.

  • @talyah23
    @talyah23 3 года назад +2

    Omg i feel you! People are such hypocrites 😤 Im getting so mad at paid vegans in my community... We're struggling with a big problem in South Africa with all the famous insta vegans here super promoting Nestle and defending it cos "we're all vegan in different ways" despite being told that Nestle openly admits to testing on animals and over using single use plastic which is eaten by sea animals and birds. The hypocrisy is real and its so sad! 😢😭

  • @swedishgirl666
    @swedishgirl666 3 года назад +2

    WHen people says: try to make a lion vegan. Geez, some humans is a new level of stupid!

  • @piau1798
    @piau1798 3 года назад +9

    I’d really love to see more of these
    But always take care of yourself first, please!

  • @deannam.5098
    @deannam.5098 3 года назад +1

    That same plot line of humans being cloned for organs is in the movie The Island with Scarlet Johansson and Ewan McGregor. Such a good movie!

  • @jugua
    @jugua 3 года назад +2

    I have said this before, but I agree on all of your points!
    Btw, in Norway the pig industries have been a lot in the media, because of an undercover documentary by Norun Haugen. I am very happy these issues are finally being talked about in the media, however a lot of people say the same things as all of these tiktok comments... So ignorant

  • @melrox8809
    @melrox8809 3 года назад +2

    Ugh people use those tried old arguments against vegans all the time. I love it when have these discussions. People need to wake up.

  • @blackrosenuk
    @blackrosenuk 3 года назад +1

    That you stay in bed to do these types of videos is simply wonderful.
    It's a comfy chat. Reminds me of childhood sleepovers where my friend & I'd stay up for hours (past bedtime, like till 3am+) in bed just chatting & laughing :)

    • @TessavandieKaap
      @TessavandieKaap 3 года назад

      Yes, it’s like having a chat with a friend.

  • @rachele932
    @rachele932 3 года назад +4

    Never let me go was actually a book first but the book and movie are both great. Love the video😁

  • @DariaMcKormick
    @DariaMcKormick 3 года назад +2

    People can comment / answer horrible horrible arguments in real life as well as in social media. Thank you for that video \o/
    Taking care of you and your sanity, of course, I'd love to see another video like that!

  • @QueenOfHeartsEs
    @QueenOfHeartsEs 3 года назад +3

    Honestly Rose, I really needed this. I eat mostly vegan and make excuses on why I "could" have a meal with meat once in a while, which is SOOOOOOO unfair to the animals involved. I love animals more than people and I needed this video to be reminded of the compassion behind veganism. Thank you for speaking for the animals and providing content like this.

    • @VeganLiving247
      @VeganLiving247 3 года назад

      Thank you for opening your mind and heart to consider veganism! Wish you the best in your transition. 🤗🌱💚

  • @UnicornRoyalty_
    @UnicornRoyalty_ 3 года назад +2

    i get eactly what youre saying about the hypocrisy, the first time too and it makes sense

  • @pppotatoes
    @pppotatoes 3 года назад +1

    your thoughts on the individual vs. systemic change are spot on, ill never get over why veganism (and broader, environmentalism) are held to diff standards

  • @beckyd3546
    @beckyd3546 3 года назад +1

    I am so glad that you have been sheltered here in RUclips. It has given you the sight and hearing to go on to other platforms and bring some truth! Keep kickin' butt!

  • @prussianbluephantom3968
    @prussianbluephantom3968 3 года назад +3

    In nature, the plant based folk lived the longest, healthiest lives.. Even before medicine. That person's comment just kicked their own ass..

  • @katie6599
    @katie6599 3 года назад +8

    THANK YOU for being a vegan youtuber willing to talk about this. No shade to the others but I think they avoid these topics to come off as a "chill" vegan.

    • @sunflowers2469
      @sunflowers2469 3 года назад +1

      they’re “not like other vegans” 🤣

    • @joopdaloop5840
      @joopdaloop5840 3 года назад +1

      yes too many apologetic vegans

    • @Holldizzle
      @Holldizzle 3 года назад

      I'm in agreement, I'm glad there are people like Rose brave enough to talk about this stuff. But there's not a lot of vegans in the world - and even less on the RUclips platform. I hope that more vegans decide to utilize RUclips as a medium for their vegan activism. While I'd love to see more of this type of content on RUclips, not everyone has the personality and/or knowledge to throw it down like Rose does here.
      Hoping to see more vegan video content in the coming months and years - from all voices, personally types, life experiences, etc., to hear their unique take on things. Excited for the future of online activism!

  • @susanclark7872
    @susanclark7872 3 года назад +1

    Dear Rose, stop reading comments on Tik Tok. It’s not good for your mental health or productively. I know from personal experience that reading negative anything just sucks the joy and purpose from my life. As my husband reminds me often “There is no cure for stupid.” I love your channel and get great meal ideas. Keep sharing you meal ideas! I Bless you!

  • @veganust
    @veganust 3 года назад +1

    I read the book (Never let me go). It's shocking and heartbreaking. How they try to prove they are worthy of living, that they have a soul, and almost nobody cares.

  • @MakimasFuneral
    @MakimasFuneral 3 года назад +1

    Finally making the transition to veganism after watching your videos for years. I’ve cut back my meat/animal product consumption to only two days a week, but this video was super inspiring to me to make the full transition. Your arguments were rock solid! Couldn’t fault your logic at all lol Thanks for this

  • @gabbienungaray107
    @gabbienungaray107 3 года назад +1

    Oh that cloning story really got to me can you imagine...having emotions, falling in love, having children then all of the sudden hey your time to give us your kidneys sorry you have feelings and can feel pain you were created to give your organs...I don’t care that’s what you were created for” that really makes my heart break.