Great comparison Simon and surprising but true. I'm not a big fan of the ranger to be honest, but if I was I'd definitely go for the PD. Appreciate the comparison. Definitely the PD is the one. I think San Martin are a bit cheeky trying to charge $218 for a pretty run of the mill case and movement. Had they included better lume and a PT5000 or at the very least an NH38, there could be an excuse for charging $150.
Crackin good comparison m8. I made up my time a while ago now. San martin is a better watch, but not better enough for me to spend the extra 150-300 dollars more on one of them over a pagani design, neither of which I plan on buying anymore at this point. Great comparison. I do hope pagani fixes that style of clasp with actual micro adjust or on the fly adjustment
Definitely a solid effort in comparison, was actually shocked at your result because I know your liking for San martin. Not having the watches in hand I still say the same as before, for the price the pagani is just a better option imo because of the bang for buck
My guy!! Most definitely and unfortunately many will disagree but value for money, it’s hard to argue IMO. Thanks for watching my man and your feedback 👍👍
Really enjoyed your comparison. I have had the Pagani Design for a couple of weeks now, wearing it every day. I also purchased the San Martin 36mm Explorer homage SN0021 at the end of last year, so can make my own comparison since the proportions of both watches are much the same. The San Martin is in a class of its own, with no issues whatsoever; pretty much synced with the atomic clock! The Pagani Design is an excellent watch with a very well finished case. The dial, hands and crystal are first class. The clasp is actually better than I thought it would be, requiring only minor adjustment with the tools to improve the functionality (although it has a sharp edge which could nearly shave hair). What let's down the PD is the bracelet! The female end link on the bottom case lugs sticks terribly and one link on that side also had the same problem. It isn't noticeable on the wrist once set in position. Can't win them all 😂. I'm lucky enough to own an entry-level Rolex Oystedate with a 36mm case (notice how I dropped that in) which I received new as an 18th birthday present a VERY long time ago. It provides a good benchmark for both the San Martin and Pagani Design.
I agree in general, San Martin are quality but I do question as time goes on, do they command 2.5x the price of a Pagani?? I’m not so sure… Enjoy your Rolex and I do like the way you incorporated it in to your comment - fair play. Thanks for watching Scott 👍👍
@@WatchtheTimeI would definitely agree Simon, that the Pagani Design price structure is unbelievable value for money. San Martin appear to be following the marketing strategy of higher price promotes a 'sense' of better quality therefore shifting more product. I also fail to see the merit in 2.5x difference in price between the SM and PD, even settling aside the minor imperfections with my Ranger homage. This is exactly how Rolex function. My parents paid £207 retail in 1981 for my Rolex. Depending on which inflation price index you look at, in today's term's that same watch would only cost around £800 to £900! Can you imagine? 😅 Rolex was certainly a luxury brand in 1981, and they would have been making a good profit then.
Very true and your point on Rolex is staggering and definitely not in proportion to inflation, although… they are very clever with waiting lists and drip feeding watches, a bit like diamond dealers. Appreciate the honesty my man 👍👍
San Martin went to the lengths to make an actual homage to that specific Swiss watch whereas Pagani Design just used a generic Oyster style case and just changed dial and hands. Hence the polished bezel and case sides. For me the San Martin wins all day long!
I hear you Alex but for the money I can’t say I agree. I do really like San Martin and some of their future offerings look QUALITY but in terms of value for money, there is only one winner IMO. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Much appreciated mate and I agree 💯 Pagani are making MASSIVE improvements, so much so, I never actually thought I’d say that 😜 Thanks for watching man 👍👍
Excellent channel every time. I appreciate your perspective and pleasant presentations. You gave the following scores to the Pagani Design of 118 and San Martin with a 115 score. In my opinion I give the Pagani 110 and the San Martin a score of 116.. Thank you my friend for your excellent channel..!! Rick in Florida USA 🇺🇸
Thanks for another great review. Don’t own any Sam Martin,but have bought 5 Paganis. For what you pay,great value. Keep up the good work. Look forward to next review. Paul.
Not even surprised that Pagani won because some reviewers said it's a great watch for the price. However, I'm a bit surprised by a few ratings (build quality, bracelet and finishing). It's very impressive from Pagani! I love the head to head (comparisons as well). So interesting! Thanks Simon for this great video!
I purchased the PD during the 11/11 sale and love it. I was pleasantly surprised by it as I have been disappointed by Pagani two times previously. The only thing that was poor on the watch was its lume. Because of that I recently purchased the San Martin and I have to say that it just feels better on my wrist. The bracelet and clasp are far superior. If the lume on the PD wasn't nonexistent I probably would never have bought the San Martin, but I'm glad I did. It's quite handsome and thinner, good lume (not great) and has a stronger presence on the wrist IMHO. That said both are nice, both are unbelievably accurate at +2, and I wear them both. I put the Pagani on a black rubber Baltic strap and keep the SM on the superior bracelet. Anyway I really enjoy your reviews, Thank you.
I know what you mean Kurt and if it wasn’t for the issues mine had, I might have felt the same. My problem is though, the last few San Martin watches I’ve had have had issues that were previously none existent on their watches. It’s a shame but I’m pleased you’re enjoying them mate 👍👍
Thanks for this comparison. The rehaut depth looks quite a bit more extreme on that PD compared to the San Martin, despite the ample crystal. I'm surprised you didn't talk about AR coating or lume quality. And I'm sorry if I missed it, but apart from difficulty with the screw pins, what other knocks did the San Martin receive on finishing and build quality?
Good point and something I’m definitely going to look to incorporate in future head to head’s. Here is what appeared in my pants section for the full review I did; Pants - Applied lume, oranged numerals, screw pin(s) and ghost position. Thanks for watching James 👍👍
9/10 for a good comparison effort Cobber.. Two fairly similar watches running the same movement and both on "sea-food bracelets" HAD to be closely scored eh. Prices are escalating for both brands that would push me towards SEIKO units ... except they too are climbing in cost. PD's watches are fantastic value generally and their quality is OK for the costs - the only big disapointment from them has been my TWO PD "ROOT BEER" watches that look real glossy but suck with their crowns being baulky & gritty & a pain in the ass the way their hands 'jump' when screwing it all back down. San Martin are very well made. Full Stop. - But they are still AliExpress from China for the racist snobs who only approve Swiss "Relaxes" eh. Cheers.
Sorry to hear about your experience and I agree, San Martin are quality but 2.5x as good?? That is what I question nowadays and something that is most certainly in question IMO. Thanks for watching Martin 👍👍
Thanks for the awesome and objective comparison! As a Pagani fan, I started to observe another sister's brand of theirs - Benyar. Especially the S002 model. Hope you can do a review on it or this brand soon mate.
I’m glad you liked it mate and I’ll always be COMPLETELY honest 💯 I’ll take a look and see what I can do - thanks for watching my man and have a great weekend 👍👍
I'm a bit confused by the ratings. So you give em in all brackets either 9 or 10 points, but then you also give 9/10 in price, although one costs more than double. Shouldn't the SM be more around 6 in the price bracket if it's overall that close to the Pagani?
No problem Max. In boxing, which is what I was scoring it like, you will very, very rarely give 6 for a round and it’s normally; 10-9 maybe, 10-8 with a knockdown. I hope that helps 👍👍
Although I don't think I'd purchase either watch but if your going with the overall looks of the two as much as I've had terrible luck with Pagani it would be my choice side by side in the video the Pagani was just the better looking option specs aside i do love these types of comparison videos i say show us more of these types After all it is the look we're buying these watches for imo But what do I know Anyways great video my friend Keep em coming and Be Well 👍
I like my lume to get old with me. White lume would be better. Pd sapphire is my choice for looks. That pd is the first watch that I think is excellent. I hope to see more of them. San martin is my favorite watch brand. 😊
I have no doubt the San Martin is the nicer watch in terms of finish. However, the Pagani Design is just nicer, it is different enough to the original that it isn't a direct copy and the smaller size suits the watch.
Only thing "wrong" with the San martin, the bracelet is too short, and you cannot order an extra link, I tried, so if you have a 24 or 25 cm wrist, average Dutch male, order a NATO..
Title is misleading, should have compared four or five models from each manufacturer. One on one comparisons are not a fare way to judge the manufacturers range of models.
How is it misleading?? I’m doing a head to head between 2 watches, not 2 brands but as you say, if it was a brand-off, I’d definitely do a few watches against a few watches 👍👍
The title makes me suspect it’s a comparison about who does the best Ranger homage. No doubt the San Martin wins. What brand is the best bang for the buck is a different question.
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If PD did the hands and markers in white, I’d buy it instantly.
I hear you mate and it’s probably why San Martin went the way they did - thanks for watching 👍👍
Great comparison Simon and surprising but true. I'm not a big fan of the ranger to be honest, but if I was I'd definitely go for the PD. Appreciate the comparison. Definitely the PD is the one. I think San Martin are a bit cheeky trying to charge $218 for a pretty run of the mill case and movement. Had they included better lume and a PT5000 or at the very least an NH38, there could be an excuse for charging $150.
All too true and one again, a great analysis my friend - thank you for watching 👍👍
Crackin good comparison m8. I made up my time a while ago now. San martin is a better watch, but not better enough for me to spend the extra 150-300 dollars more on one of them over a pagani design, neither of which I plan on buying anymore at this point. Great comparison. I do hope pagani fixes that style of clasp with actual micro adjust or on the fly adjustment
I hear you and agree on many levels Chris. I think the winner may surprise you and many others 😉
Definitely a solid effort in comparison, was actually shocked at your result because I know your liking for San martin. Not having the watches in hand I still say the same as before, for the price the pagani is just a better option imo because of the bang for buck
My guy!! Most definitely and unfortunately many will disagree but value for money, it’s hard to argue IMO. Thanks for watching my man and your feedback 👍👍
Really enjoyed your comparison. I have had the Pagani Design for a couple of weeks now, wearing it every day. I also purchased the San Martin 36mm Explorer homage SN0021 at the end of last year, so can make my own comparison since the proportions of both watches are much the same. The San Martin is in a class of its own, with no issues whatsoever; pretty much synced with the atomic clock!
The Pagani Design is an excellent watch with a very well finished case. The dial, hands and crystal are first class. The clasp is actually better than I thought it would be, requiring only minor adjustment with the tools to improve the functionality (although it has a sharp edge which could nearly shave hair). What let's down the PD is the bracelet! The female end link on the bottom case lugs sticks terribly and one link on that side also had the same problem. It isn't noticeable on the wrist once set in position. Can't win them all 😂.
I'm lucky enough to own an entry-level Rolex Oystedate with a 36mm case (notice how I dropped that in) which I received new as an 18th birthday present a VERY long time ago. It provides a good benchmark for both the San Martin and Pagani Design.
I agree in general, San Martin are quality but I do question as time goes on, do they command 2.5x the price of a Pagani?? I’m not so sure…
Enjoy your Rolex and I do like the way you incorporated it in to your comment - fair play. Thanks for watching Scott 👍👍
@@WatchtheTimeI would definitely agree Simon, that the Pagani Design price structure is unbelievable value for money. San Martin appear to be following the marketing strategy of higher price promotes a 'sense' of better quality therefore shifting more product. I also fail to see the merit in 2.5x difference in price between the SM and PD, even settling aside the minor imperfections with my Ranger homage.
This is exactly how Rolex function. My parents paid £207 retail in 1981 for my Rolex. Depending on which inflation price index you look at, in today's term's that same watch would only cost around £800 to £900! Can you imagine? 😅 Rolex was certainly a luxury brand in 1981, and they would have been making a good profit then.
Very true and your point on Rolex is staggering and definitely not in proportion to inflation, although… they are very clever with waiting lists and drip feeding watches, a bit like diamond dealers. Appreciate the honesty my man 👍👍
San Martin went to the lengths to make an actual homage to that specific Swiss watch whereas Pagani Design just used a generic Oyster style case and just changed dial and hands. Hence the polished bezel and case sides. For me the San Martin wins all day long!
I hear you Alex but for the money I can’t say I agree. I do really like San Martin and some of their future offerings look QUALITY but in terms of value for money, there is only one winner IMO. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Excellent comparison mate! Always nice seeing a win by the underdog. Pagani Design has really been stepping up their game in the past year.
Much appreciated mate and I agree 💯 Pagani are making MASSIVE improvements, so much so, I never actually thought I’d say that 😜
Thanks for watching man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime I feel you. I honestly could never have imagined myself saying that about a Pagani over a San Martin 2 years ago haha 🤣
No doubt!! I agree wholeheartedly 👍👍
Great comparison I would agree overall with the score the Pagani edges it for me on the price alone always great content.
Much appreciated Jason - thanks for watching my man 👍👍
Excellent channel every time. I appreciate your perspective and pleasant presentations.
You gave the following scores to the Pagani Design of 118 and San Martin with a 115 score. In my opinion I give the Pagani 110 and the San Martin a score of 116..
Thank you my friend for your excellent channel..!! Rick in Florida USA 🇺🇸
No problem at all and I really appreciate your kind words - top man 👍👍
Thanks for another great review.
Don’t own any Sam Martin,but have bought 5 Paganis.
For what you pay,great value.
Keep up the good work.
Look forward to next review.
Paul.
Much appreciated Paul - thank you for watching my man and I’ll keep em coming 👍👍
Enjoyable comparison....I have the PD enroute, can't wait....🏴⌚🏴⌚
You’ll love it my man - thanks for watching and always supporting, it’s much appreciated 👍👍
Not even surprised that Pagani won because some reviewers said it's a great watch for the price.
However, I'm a bit surprised by a few ratings (build quality, bracelet and finishing). It's very impressive from Pagani!
I love the head to head (comparisons as well). So interesting!
Thanks Simon for this great video!
Am glad you liked it Jonathan and I appreciate you watch, as ever - thank you my friend 👍👍
I purchased the PD during the 11/11 sale and love it. I was pleasantly surprised by it as I have been disappointed by Pagani two times previously. The only thing that was poor on the watch was its lume. Because of that I recently purchased the San Martin and I have to say that it just feels better on my wrist. The bracelet and clasp are far superior. If the lume on the PD wasn't nonexistent I probably would never have bought the San Martin, but I'm glad I did. It's quite handsome and thinner, good lume (not great) and has a stronger presence on the wrist IMHO. That said both are nice, both are unbelievably accurate at +2, and I wear them both. I put the Pagani on a black rubber Baltic strap and keep the SM on the superior bracelet. Anyway I really enjoy your reviews, Thank you.
I know what you mean Kurt and if it wasn’t for the issues mine had, I might have felt the same. My problem is though, the last few San Martin watches I’ve had have had issues that were previously none existent on their watches. It’s a shame but I’m pleased you’re enjoying them mate 👍👍
Thanks for this comparison. The rehaut depth looks quite a bit more extreme on that PD compared to the San Martin, despite the ample crystal. I'm surprised you didn't talk about AR coating or lume quality. And I'm sorry if I missed it, but apart from difficulty with the screw pins, what other knocks did the San Martin receive on finishing and build quality?
Good point and something I’m definitely going to look to incorporate in future head to head’s. Here is what appeared in my pants section for the full review I did; Pants - Applied lume, oranged numerals, screw pin(s) and ghost position.
Thanks for watching James 👍👍
9/10 for a good comparison effort Cobber.. Two fairly similar watches running the same movement and both on "sea-food bracelets" HAD to be closely scored eh.
Prices are escalating for both brands that would push me towards SEIKO units ... except they too are climbing in cost. PD's watches are fantastic value generally and their quality is OK for the costs - the only big disapointment from them has been my TWO PD "ROOT BEER" watches that look real glossy but suck with their crowns being baulky & gritty & a pain in the ass the way their hands 'jump' when screwing it all back down. San Martin are very well made. Full Stop. - But they are still AliExpress from China for the racist snobs who only approve Swiss "Relaxes" eh. Cheers.
Sorry to hear about your experience and I agree, San Martin are quality but 2.5x as good?? That is what I question nowadays and something that is most certainly in question IMO. Thanks for watching Martin 👍👍
Thanks for the awesome and objective comparison! As a Pagani fan, I started to observe another sister's brand of theirs - Benyar. Especially the S002 model. Hope you can do a review on it or this brand soon mate.
I’m glad you liked it mate and I’ll always be COMPLETELY honest 💯
I’ll take a look and see what I can do - thanks for watching my man and have a great weekend 👍👍
i got mine yesterday, 36.4mm does not look too small on my 7.5 inch wrist. georgeous !!
Nice one - I’m glad you like it mate 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime very satisfying for my first homage watch, thanks mate 👍
I'm a bit confused by the ratings. So you give em in all brackets either 9 or 10 points, but then you also give 9/10 in price, although one costs more than double. Shouldn't the SM be more around 6 in the price bracket if it's overall that close to the Pagani?
No problem Max. In boxing, which is what I was scoring it like, you will very, very rarely give 6 for a round and it’s normally; 10-9 maybe, 10-8 with a knockdown. I hope that helps 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime Oh, I see. Thanks mate!
No problem mate 👍👍
Great vid. I compared the two (video reviews etc) and bought the PD a few months ago - phew!
I’m glad you liked it mate and I hope you’re enjoying your Pagani - thanks for watching 👍👍
Both great value. Very fair assessment. One point, could you make the text on the paper larger next time, quite hard to read.
No problem mate - will do 👍👍
Although I don't think I'd purchase either watch but if your going with the overall looks of the two as much as I've had terrible luck with Pagani it would be my choice side by side in the video the Pagani was just the better looking option specs aside i do love these types of comparison videos i say show us more of these types After all it is the look we're buying these watches for imo But what do I know Anyways great video my friend Keep em coming and Be Well 👍
I’m glad you liked the video Michael and as ever, thank you for watching and for your continued support 👍👍
Thanks for your video. Has your opinion changed over time?
That’s hard to answer mate as I no longer own either watch, apologies
Late to the party again! 😅 Good fun comparison bro. & don't forget it's OK to be wrong! 😂😂
Many thanks bro and I hear you. As you know, these things are completely subjective but they definitely cause a bit of a stir 😉
i Just picked up the pd already, could not wait until the next sale😂😂😂
the 36mm will fit perfect my 6.5inch tiny wirst
Nice one mate - enjoy 👍👍
I like my lume to get old with me. White lume would be better.
Pd sapphire is my choice for looks.
That pd is the first watch that I think is excellent. I hope to see more of them.
San martin is my favorite watch brand. 😊
I hear you Dre and your analysis is pretty well aligned with mine tbh - thanks for watching my man 👍👍
I have no doubt the San Martin is the nicer watch in terms of finish. However, the Pagani Design is just nicer, it is different enough to the original that it isn't a direct copy and the smaller size suits the watch.
Fair comment and tbh I can completely see where you’re coming from mate 👍👍
The San Martin dial looks so dull next to the Pagani.
It sure does. It does have a Matt finish but all in all, the Pagani definitely has more pop to it 👍👍
Only thing "wrong" with the San martin, the bracelet is too short, and you cannot order an extra link, I tried, so if you have a 24 or 25 cm wrist, average Dutch male, order a NATO..
Sorry to hear that mate, that sucks tbh and definitely shouldn’t be the case 😞
For me personally I prefer the San Martin.
No problem my friend, that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it - thanks for watching 👍👍
Pagani is way more better, San Martin so ambitious on their prices no wonder people love Pagani❤
They are most definitely less expensive San Martin and I’m pleased you like their watches 👍👍
Haha. Touche!
😉 cheers mate, I scheduled this video weeks ago but because of other things, I kept putting it back but… here we are 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime Well done...very unexpected score. The Pagani looks pretty good ;)
Title is misleading, should have compared four or five models from each manufacturer. One on one comparisons are not a fare way to judge the manufacturers range of models.
How is it misleading?? I’m doing a head to head between 2 watches, not 2 brands but as you say, if it was a brand-off, I’d definitely do a few watches against a few watches 👍👍
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You'd get the sm if you have more money than actual sense
Indeed 👍👍
The title makes me suspect it’s a comparison about who does the best Ranger homage. No doubt the San Martin wins. What brand is the best bang for the buck is a different question.
I couldn’t possibly comment on watch watch these are ‘homaging’ but, I agree with both your sentiments 👍👍
SAN MARTIN is much better
I agree in general, no doubt but 2.5x times the price better? I’m not so sure. Thanks for watching 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime yes average price is $250 but its still better than paying $3000