Why can't they improve the working conditions and recruit people with a passion for agriculture. There's many areas for improvement on the side of the agriculture industry owners.
@void9837 It will always be a back breaking job of which Americans are not willing to take on. I wish Juvenile delinquents were forced into this, so that the $ they might have made would pay for their room, board & etc. Tough love is very healthy. They can still learn ALOT on the field & around it. Just a thought. "Sra Isa"
That Senator is one of the most corrupt fascists in this excuse for a government. Our economy is heading into the tank. Every statistic that shows a poor economy are on the rise, homelessness, foreclosures, increased food bank use, increased unemployment, housing crisis, all of that except corporate profits for the most subsidized industries in this country. DeSantis is the worst thing to happen to Florida even next to Rick “5th Amendment” Scott.
My favorite irony is that for as red as Florida is when it comes to reducing or eliminating illegal immigration, the right have no alternatives for filling positions that have traditionally been held by undocumented workers. I very much doubt that any of Florida's millions of retirees or legal American citizens will leave the air-conditioned comfort of their condos or even a fast food restaurant just to pick crops in hot weather. And the best part is that this dilemma is only adding to difficulties of living in Florida as more insurance companies have abandoned anyone who chooses to live in a state famous for expensive hurricanes.
There's no irony. Only the media wants to portray agriculture as using only illegal labor. The farmer interviewed uses LEGAL labor. If it ever got to be a problem, then we stop sending kids to schools for useless degrees and put them to work in the fields. A little hard work won't hurt them.
Many of them spew the same vitriol and rhetoric about illegal immigrants, knowing fully well that Americans DO NOT and WILL NOT work under those conditions.
Passed a similar law as Florida around early/mid 2000s. This affected their agriculture production. Crops were left unpicked/unplanted. Couldn’t find enough native born ppl or legal immigrants to work in this field. So it had an economical impact in this industry. Be ready to see the price of produce go up like it did when Georgia and a few southern States implemented this type of law
@RR-lt8cm BS. Crops get dumped all the time for many reasons other than not enough legal labor. However if you flood a country with illegal labor, that will definitely drive wages down. Trucking has seen this big time over the last 4 years.
The CEOs seek cheaper labor across the border and overseas. Cheaper labor doesn't need to enter. American citizens are being laid off. Why are you listening to the people who have wealth and no work ethic?? @francismarion6400
As sad as it is for the migrants being forced to leave FL, Desantis & FL GOP deserve the economic fallout that will happen next year! GA tried this & found out the hard way!
The two 'experts" that responded to your post didn't even watch the video no doubt because the grower stated at 0:55 that getting new help isn't easy or possible.
I live in massachusetts in the economic downfall of taken care of over twenty thousand adults and putting them in all in hotel The moped gangs driving vehicles and no license or insurance, causing everybody else's insurance to go up, Fifty deep in a one bedroom apartment. This is the biggest theft of american taxpayers Probably in the history of the world.
Now we need all able-bodied Floridians to start doing all the jobs that they don't want to do luckily for us water breaks are no longer provided a new law that was also signed by the Republicans
@@chottozumiit’s simple: they don’t want any agricultural industry in Florida. There is a labor shortage so either you treat your workers well or you don’t have workers. And breaks are simply necessary in this climate to keep on working. Someone dropping out of work after 4 hour due to a heat stroke will not help the farmer and certainly never return to this farm.
@@svenweihusen57 Great point. My thought on it, as soon as I read your comment:maybe BlackRock et al are trying to monopolize the land ownership. Maybe, Bill Gates, in on it, too? 😬😬
The last guy gets it: if the workers don't come here to work, they'll work somewhere else and export food to the US. Not exactly a great policy for national food security.
Carrots, Onions, Cabbages, Potatoes, Cranberries, Certain varieties of Sweet Corn, Peanuts, Every staple grain, “Process grade” tomatoes, and many tree nuts, plus many many more produce items… What do they have in common? They can ALL be farmed with machines that drastically reduce human labor. Dyson of Great Britain has already developed smart machines that can HARVEST STRAWBERRIES, yes delicate strawberries. Every person interested in this subject needs to DO THEIR RESEARCH on European and Japanese agricultural technology. It is MILES ahead of America. Also, who cares if you have to import tomatoes from Mexico?
Yes indeed, how stupid!! This sort of nonsense is only exploiting the ignorance of many and those who are easily fooled. There are work visas H-1B that the farmers can apply for, for his workers. There are now and have been for decades workers who legally come over to work and when the season is over, they go home. It's for seasonal workers. The problem is, these people don't want to do it legally. Stop falling for the BS!
Crackdowns result in same issues over the decades for ag industry. Florida’s naive to think state will escape consequences. Immigration system’s indeed broken, and US food security along with it.
If farmers vote red, what do they expect? It seems the people who vote Republican always end up getting shafted. How can I sympathize with them if this is what they chose? It sucks for the rest of us too...we also pay the price in higher food costs.
Facts. They complain about them publicly but hire them privately. There are several accounts of farmers trying to hire legal citizens but most of the time they'd quit before the first day was over. If you think fruits and veggies are expensive now? Wait til they actually have to pay minimum wage and hire "Colton" fresh outta high school. If he can even last out there. You have to want to survive to do that work bc I damn sure wouldn't. Lol. I know how privileged I am.
I'm a farmer and I vote red. And I don't use immigrants for labor and never will. Gets to where I can't do it myself or hire some high school boys from time to time. I'll quit.
That senator is sitting there being righteous in his suit, while the farmer is telling you what is really happening. What is happening is that the Senator is cracking down on people looking for better opportunities, by using the law as his shield for his distaste of immigrants. We have to elect better politicians, I will leave it at that.
People can look for better opportunities as long as they follow the rules. Apply for the appropriate VISA through USCIS, not by entering another Country illegally. If I come to your house eshoandy and sneak in and help myself to the keys to your vehicle and steal it (because I am looking for a better opportunity) are you going to support me and dismiss the fact I broke into your house and stole your truck? Yes, you say? Ahh, here comes my cousin next week and he breaks in and steals your new vehicle, are you going to support that as well? Yes? Here comes my brother in law the next week and he breaks into your house and steals your vehicle. I'm sure you see the pattern here. Illegal and undocumented immigration is not fair to the hundreds of thousands of people who have been waiting 10+ years and that filed for proper entry VISAS through the USCIS. You're worse than the NFL if you want to enforce some US laws such as breaking an entering and grand theft auto, bank robbery, Ponzi schemes etc but you don't believe it is right to enforce US immigration laws!
They glossed over the part where the Florida Republican State Senators and Representatives told the farmers, not to worry about the new laws (in 2023). They told the farmers, the laws would not be enforced. But, many farm workers fled directly after the law passed.
@@eldebtor6973 Do you really believe that these businesses will pay more money to get keep workers? They voted to get rid of their own workers, they never think of the long run.
When Bush Jr. got elected in 2001 he wanted to do immigation reform right off the bat and got no where in his party. George Bush as governor of Texas he knew and realized that Mexico was by far are our largest trading partner in the world and it was going to be good business in the LONG run to create a path to legalize workers to come to the US and to have a fair and efficient system for people to be vetted and become citizens. Build bridges not walls to solve this issue. It's never to late to do the right thing.
*In addition, in April, Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a law banning local municipalities from requiring employers to give heat breaks to outdoor workers No shade, no water, no breaks: DeSantis' new law threatens Florida outdoor worker health.* When scientifically on some of our 105+ degree days these should be occurring at least every hour.
@nealskrenes2612 I've worked in construction for 28 years down in South Florida and no one ever stopped me from taking a water break nor have I ever heard of anyone else being stopped from taking a water break.
I tried to respond directly to francismarion6400 , but RUclips wouldn’t let me so all right it here: Your past experiences have no bearing on Florida House Bill 433, (you can check this out with Google. Can’t post a link here) which DeSantis signed into law in April. so an employer on their own, can decide to offer shade and water brakes, but the official Republican position is that no local government can demand that they do so. Truly, an inhumane view of all of those who labor in the extreme heat, not just immigrants.
Tried to reply directly to marjoriejean-louis1229, but RUclips won’t let me so I’ll do it here. You believe that *capitalist employers are more humane than the government, which is supposed to look after the health and welfare of its citizens, is some kind of a defense!?*
@nickg2561 Democrats Don't want to fix the border. We don't want more people. Wages are stagnant, health care is expensive if you can get it, taxes are high, and everything else is inflated costs too!
Allow farmers to employ these workers so they can be properly taxed and have a living wage while they are waiting to process their immigration paperwork. It’s a win win. The rise of crops and food are only going to go up. No American is willing to take on these jobs smh
They are taxed, being undocumented doesn’t mean the irs doesn’t want their share. Also not everyone qualifies to become legal due to undocumented entry or having a path to become legal.
Nothing called win-win here. They’re in the US wrong in the beginnings and will have to face consequences if get caught. Don’t encourage any more wrong doings.
@@bradhuffjr777 Cattle and hogs may be raised by citizen owners but I would like to eat some vegetables too. Edit: BTW, the crops in the border states were often cultivated by Mexicans who entered the USA under the "Bracero Program." The USA and Mexico had an arrangement for workers to enter the USA for agricultural work. When the program ended, some growers closed their agricultural business. They couldn't get workers to do the work, not high school students, not people in their 20s. Most who started the day didn't stay until the end of the day. As an example, the Maniscalco Cactus Ranch, in San Diego County, the largest producer of cactus apples in the world and an exporter from the USA to Mexico, and a producer of melons and tomatoes, closed operations, was sold and developed into small homes.
@@bradesibd.-uz2zmshit goes up all the time without actually increasing worker’s pay so that argument just doesn’t work it goes for almost everything yeah it goes up tomorrow be fair but not to the extent that it’ll be unaffordable for the majority of people. Just an excuse to keep paying worker’s low wages and it goes for anything just look at how much it costs to produce certain electronics and medications amd how much it actually sells for
@@bradesibd.-uz2zmit would actually be less. You have undocumented immigrants using up the resources without contributing to pot with taxes. Ya hiring legal workers cost more to the business owner but those legal workers pay taxes unlike undocumented workers
Florida is going to have to pay competitive wages for their agriculture workers now. You’re going to have to keep raising wages until people start showing up to apply. For triple digit temperatures I’m thinking something like $25 an hour after taxes to start.
So more than teachers? So what about when everything is growing? Everyone needs help during picking times. Not planting or growing. So the farmer should pay for weeks while nothing is being done. Great real.
@@johnallenbailey1103 don't get mad at him. If you think he is wrong show us how you can go out and do it for less money. Half of this country is just out of touch with reality l!
Wow, that politician is lying through his teeth. Construction and agriculture has taken a hit. Prices are continuing to rise because no one is able to pick food or work.
As a very young boy living on a rather large ranch that employed immigrants illegally..but dutiful workers..loyal.One night, it was pitch black and a truck was coming into the lane slowly with its lights off.And I asked my mother who is that and why are they driving slow with no lights on ? She said it's the immigration they are hoping to catch the workers camp where the men are sleeping. They are going to deport them back to Mexico because they are here illegally. And they try to catch them off guard..and beat them up.But she said they always have someone on look out..and then they run into the fields. It was the beginning of my understanding what was to be...the understanding of coming to work here to send money back to their family. It was a very sad situation for them and myself. Young as I was it the first of many times ahead to find out about the facts of life..and unfairness. Most Americans would not do this kind of labor..! This country was founded on immigrants. My heart goes out to those in this kind of predicament.The person on the nicely dressed suit at the end of the segment has this in his mind..it looks good on paper so it will work.And the tomato farmer is correct in his statement. It's doomed for failure on both counts. It's a shame all around !!!!
It's not immigrants, it's ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! There are work visas H-1B that seasonal workers can get. I know first hand because I and many of my family members have done so. And after many years of working here legally with a work visa, we applied for green cards with the help of local nonprofit and immigration attorney. We are now all here and are sworn in as US citizens. Those who are here illegally choose to enter illegally because they chose to not respect the laws and the process. But there is a process and there is a path to LEGAL immigration. Many are on the legal path because they choose the LEGAL path and not the ILLEGAL one.
@@faithandgrace8244 I'm glad it all worked out. Here's something to think about. How long did the whole process for your entire family take. Don't you think it was too long with an awful lot of hoops to jump through. While you were going through that whole process how much less money did you earn because of your status? I'd love to take back through all the payroll records of your family during this process. I guarantee you we're being taken advantage of even if you didn't know it. I know if I was in this situation that some of these people are in I would come in at all cost.
This country was not founded on immigrants. It was founded on indigenous Indians that got their land taken and black slaves that worked fields for hundreds of years WITHOUT pay
@michaelvaladez6570 I worked at a recycling place once, and we had a fire. When the fire trucks showed up, all the workers ran off into the woods. They all came back to work the next day.
@@smokindauberdoo4208 the problem is industrial farming. There are people all over RUclips farming for self-sustainability. There are also documentaries about American farmers dealing with corporations. The system is failing us on so many levels.
@ILovePancakes24 Wouldn't be much different than what I do now. But no, my carpentry company benefited from his tax plan before and I was able to grow the company. Usually people that say stuff like you just did, are the laziest in a society.
I've heard directly from farmers that they are hurting to find workers, since the 90's. It's just getting worse for them. I hear it first hand. My family is farmers.
Want the labor but don't want to pay wages! Last year workers got fired because it was 110 degrees in the field and workers wanted to leave it was too hot duh!!
These folks are an important part of our economy for sure. Our nation was built with immigrant labor, my grandfather being one who came over through Ellis Island in 1919. Whats wrong with an Ellis Island type immigration program once again?
@Bob-The-Guy We have a working visa program. Migrants want construction jobs now instead of farm jobs. This is in part due to our education system which has pushed everyone to get useless degrees instead of going into trades.
@@francismarion6400no it's due to spoiled nation. Every empire runs through this cycle. Your parents came and worked hard because they had to. What they told you was go to school so you wouldn't break your back. Every generation afterward works a little less until they do not work at all.
For those who are in denial because of the apparent hypocrisy and paradox of historically “conservative” farmers employing undocumented immigrants, welcome to America. We were built on such contradictions of ideals. Yes, they want their cake, and they want to eat it to, but they damn sure don’t want to pay anyone full price for it so of course they are going to resort to the cheapest labor possible. That’s the American way, for better or for worse. It certainly is problematic and it poses risks to all parties. But there’s no reason to demonize either side, because the farmers are forced to do it to stay competitive without going belly up, and the immigrants just want to work and seek a better life, like all of us. This has been going on since well before our lifetime. Don’t let fear mongering politicians make you think a century + old practice has become a crisis overnight because a democrat is in the White House.
But yet Americans said they were taking their jobs. If these low paying jobs aren’t the jobs they were referring too, then what were those jobs? Hmmm BS walking and talking.
All I'm hearing from these farmers are "how is it going to affect ME and my profits?" what about the human lives it affects? THE WORKERS. America needs to make the immigration process more efficient and fair.
Harris/Biden purposely imported 10+ million illegal immigrants - more population than 10 of our states. How many do we need. Democrats just want to replace Americans with new votes. That’s what racist about the Harris/Biden intentional policies.
I mean, they were asking them their perspectives after all. But you kinda have to frame it tgat way for Americans to care and eventually politicians to act.
A lot of farmers in Homestead FL used Telemundo to let people know that they had fields full of fruit and vegetables that were going to go to waste because the workers left in fear because of the new law, and they wanted people to go and grab as many fruits and vegs as they wanted for free. It was a shameful scene with a economically heavy toll to the farmers.
We live in St Petersburg, FL and I have noticed changes in vegetable and fruit supplies at Whole Foods Market. The produce here is not so fresh. I saw rotten produce as well! And ‘out of stock’ has become normal. It's frustrating to go grocery shopping in Florida nowadays.
@@trevor2001 Walmart is not a good example. Nearly all of their produce is imported, and they never use local farm products. Never. Everything goes through Bentonville Arkansas.
@@susannpatton2893WHAT? I do live in South Florida, down in the Florida Keys. And when I'm up in the Redlands in the homestead area where a lot of agricultural crops are grown year round and by migrant workers, YOU will See a lot of tomatoes and stuff rotting in the fields becuz there ain't enough people to pick them, and when the tomatoes rot in the field, the prices go up at Publix and everywhere else they sell them, and the tomatoes, beans and avocados, papayas, mangoes zucchini squash watermelons pumpkins. Unpicked, turn back into the dirt from which they came. And the prices go up.
How proud the GOP must feel. The party that basically will create food insecurity, weaken the economies of many states, and proudly say "this is the right thing to do".
@@mepulley7913 Regulations are creating food insecurity. The small farmers have to sell out to big farmers like Monsanto and Tyson. Those guys will deliberately create shortages to raise prices. Think!
@@francismarion6400 - That is what I'm doing - thinking. Exactly the opposite of the division the GOP creates and also Congress by not acting on comprehensive immigration.
@@francismarion6400 - Do you even realize the amount of money wars produce for rich people? Contracts by extension that are awarded by our government. The DOD surplus of products are given to LE departments across the US. My point and I do have one is, wars are favored by our government officials on BOTH SIDES!
The issue is that America has always exploited farm labor going back to its founding and that exploitation has existed throughout its history. You see it in works like "The Grapes Of Wrath" which documented white tenant farmers in the late depression era. Not to mention migrant workers of the 1950s and 60s were mostly black and lived in squalid conditions with poor pay as documented by Edward R Murrow in "Harvest of Shame". This is why you had the growth and development of the United Farm Workers who openly rejected importing immigrant labor because it would allow for the exploitation to continue. And this is what is going on now. And using illegal immigrants to do this work is nothing but exploitation because the farmers refuse to raise the pay to compensate people properly.
@dnifty1 the few who can purchase a $2.5 million yacht like a soda - and the desperate looking for a job guit within 30 minutes. Hard work ethic isn't a dream that you fantasize about. Hard work ethic isn't exploited( 98% of us are exploited). Hard work ethic succeeds.
@@newNILRULEisgreat.2504 None of that has any bearing on the reality of greed and the desire to work people without paying them. This is the reason so many Europeans were willing to leave Europe and travel to places like America. What you are talking about is a fantasy that exploitation hasn't been part of European and other societies for thousands of years. It isn't an issue of hard work, it is an issue of who owns the land and is the one paying for that work. In your fantasy world Europeans and only believe in merit and never exploit anybody and make sure the wealth gets distributed fairly when we all know that is false.
@@dnifty1 you are talking about a completely different subject. The haves and the have nots. Greed has always existed. Not even you will pay someone who doesn't ever show up to work.
Because no American in their right mind would ever work in those scorching fields. Migrant labor is needed and Desantis is bankrupting his own state, besides growing food please tell me what Florida is known for?
DisneyWorld and beaches come to mind! And the reason Americans would never work in the fields is not because of the scorching fields. It's because of the pay. Simply put, you can't stay in the middle class making the wages these workers make. And that's kind of the point. The only way fruits and veggies can be sold to Americans at a cost that's at least somewhat affordable is ti pay low wages and the only people that can accept that are those coming from central and south America. So in that regard, you're correct that Desantis is making things worse, but he gets to throw meat to his xenophobic voter base, so it's all good!
So really, we have a great deal of gratitude to show to those “pickers” from South and Central America. They feed use, our children, our elderly. They’ve been demonized for nothing but political gain.
No, in Florida, adult employees working 8 hours are not legally required to be given a lunch break by their employers, as state and federal laws do not mandate meal or rest breaks for adult workers; the decision to provide breaks is entirely up to the employer's discretion.
cheap unprotected labor is their goal, while they pretend to support U.S. workers for the votes.. so immigration reform will not actually happen.. except where there's a population boom (Florida) where farm land is coveted for development, in which case immigration reform is a weaponized ruse to make farmers fail and sell off their pre cleared, pre leveled and pre drained land.
The AEWR (H-2A Visa) pay rates for seasonal immigrant workers are actually between $14 and $20 for the 50 states and D.C. So, unless you're unfortunate enough to be an immigrant in Puerto Rico or Guam, the pay rates exceed the Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour, by 2x.
A relative told me back in the 70s and 80s Otay Mesa (South East San Diego) was a wire as it's border. The border patrol would be lenient during harvesting season on the tomato farms nearby.
Streamline the legal system right at the farm with honest oversight and the hiring system will remain strong for all of us. Otherwise expect the cost of producing and providing raw food far more expensive.
You're acting as though Desantis cares about this. All he wants to do is look like he's a tough guy on immigration. He couldn't give a rat's behind that he's actually making things worse.
Even when there was a bill proposed to improve the legal immigration system in Congress I saw conservatives complain it would let too many people over the border daily. I think they just want everything to be dysfunctional and broken so they can complain. The outrage addiction ought to be considered an epidemic.
Producers of our food! Thank you for doing the work. We do not want imported produce and we should pay attention to what we are putting in our mouths for sustenance and not just what's coming out in political rhetoric. You are hurting our farmers and our country pushing us to imported processed food and potentially killing the future.
The government should give these people permit to work period!! As long as crime is not committed why not give them the job? Subsequently the crops can be planted and harvested too! Too much politics.
Your right, too many politicians involved in the farm labor problem. Prices are high for everyone and farm labor needs to eat, clothing and shelter. They should earn a living wage on there would be a lot more unemployment among the residents to. I am 71, but I need more money, I'm trying to live on minimal social security so I work for a day or two if I can. I paid in for 30+years.
@slipslop9990 Sure and then we can pay $8 a pound for tomatoes and 75% of the people will stop buying them. You act as though there's a magic money tree to pay them these higher wages. You should probably go back and listen to the last part of the video again. If restrictions make it that the price to grow fruits and veggies goes up to a point where it's cheaper to simply import them, then that's what will happen.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 I live down in South Florida in the keys and I buy tomatoes at Publix and I see them rotting in the fields and I buy Three Tomatoes at Publix small ones mind you and they cost about $3. Who's getting all that money whose prophets are way up, it's not the farmers. I see all kinds of produce rotten in the field for lack of someone to pick it.
Legal immigration should be the gold standard and those here illegally should be given an opportunity for path to citizenship and/or legal work status. Just keep in mind that once you remove "illegal" immigrants the price of goods are probably going to go up or as the last farmer said, goods will probably be imported from countries with even cheaper labor like China. So those hating on immigrants, just keep that in mind when your goods are more expensive.
The problem with Florida, my state, it how it is being run. Desatin has vision and the people have their own. They are very different. Desatin is pushing his on the people. We hired him to look out for the state and the people. Not to serve himself. Something he can not grasp. But I have to look on the positive side, he will be done and gone in two more years. Hope is we will elect someone that will do the job we hire them for. Without hope you have nothing.
the interesting part is he was doing shady things first term. he was reelected and now he is continuing with those shady things. I only hear people complaining now bc the newest wave targets them. no one cared when he was talking crazy and passing ridiculous things first term. it's kinda like well, good. I know the lesson I'd like residents to learn is missed on them, but I hope ppl realize when red flags are being waved, take note bc you're next
Political grandstanding, mainly the GOP, and now the Democratically led executive branch actively made this an issue that will not go away until a majority of US growers are out of business. Also, violence against immigrants is at an all-time high (look it up). We do things in extremes without using critical thinking skills. Add to this the loss of unbiased Civics and US history instruction in education, leading to a mess of misunderstanding and misguided action. We know what to do, but our elected officials respond to the direction of hot air media and extremist small-group biases. It's a mess.
1. The GOP don't want a solution because they want chaos. 2. Gringos won't do the work. 3. Ag employers have two choices: a. cut back on what you sow. b. Watch your crops rot in the field. Wait till Trump's tariffs take hold. Inflation is going up 2% to 3% and unemployment will increase by millions. Way to go MAGA.
Dont say "You don't want the immigrants. " We want LEGAL immigrants. Devise a Guest Worker program that benefits labor, management, the state, everyone.
@@MM-sf3rl Exactly. Also, it's well known that the people who own businesses, especially farms, are far more likely to be republican than the general population. The system right now provides them a way to pay sub minimum wage, and abuse their workers since the workers have no legal protections. There's multiple reasons why the republican party refuses to do anything about reforming immigration, democrats have tried.
IF Trump hadn’t interfered in the huge border changing bill that was agreed upon by both Parties, things would be starting to be fixed. It angers me when Republicans are still fear mongering about the border.
You can't ignore the contributions that undocumented immigrants pay into the economy. Whether it's through local, state, or federal taxes, their economic impact is enormous.
Illegal immigrants file taxes with ITIN number, they get all that money back plus EITC and Child Tax Credit($3600-$3000 per child) Illegal Immigrants get tens of thousands of dollars in cash from the US taxpayer, on top of free education/Healthcare/Food for their American born anchor baby children.
You people that talk like this never grasp the backend cost of this "cheap labor". Its not cheap when these people get to suck up social services intended for our own poor people.
As a former farmer I would rather hire someone from Mexico or another country. They work hard. They don't complain all the time. I always hired legal and always paid the going legal wage. Treat them with respect and they will more than return the favor. Grant more work permits.
@@FollowTheJohnonly paying taxes on a stolen SS# claiming 25 dependents and then not filing. That’s how they get $4K a month in food stamps. I know how that game works. Don’t be so naive.
The chickens have come home to roost and those aren’t BLACK JOBS anymore this century Florida. They will force the prison inmates to do it in the next few years.
Florida needs to raise the minimum wage and you will have a much larger Workforce, and you might not even need immigrants. The immigrants have been coming here for thousands of years to pick crops and to work farms under the Aztec and Mayan Dynasty. They would make a yearly Journey North. It is in DNA. Birds, animals and fish migrate. But we all need to eat
@@sireconde5969 I think I already replied today I'm all about it and I don't think of it is a problem I need to do all the little bosses down here that higher the immigrants. You don't speak Spanish you don't stand a chance
LOL let me know what Americans will work in the field for $25 an hour. Also what are your thoughts on apples costing $3 each so they can pay that wage. Story after story these farmers say they try to bring Americans in and they usually last less than a day.
Yea I side with this farmer it would be next to impossible to hire Americans to do that intensive labor for minimal pay. Legal Immigrants are essential to our economy. The only other option would be use Inmate labor
I just visited Fla for first time.. across the state. Living in Ca, my jaw dropped how there’s no dystopian levels of walking dead homelessness like our crisis. (Except When Xi Jinping comes to visit of course).
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hey yall wanted your jobs back, now you can
Exactly.
We didn’t mean “ these” jobs
Send maga to work on the fields
@@ronymorales3527no we're sending everyone one on welfare to the fields
@@HVACMAN-c7vhey work is work 😂😂
Most of these farmers are conservatives who voted for these politicians. So that's how it works. You voted for this so now you complain about it?
Exactly. If they lose their farms, that's on them. This is what they wanted
100 perfect agree!! Biting the hand that works, what a shame
@@user-qr7ee2cp4y proveus wrong
These policies have no effect on farmers in Florida because like the one interviewed, they use LEGAL labor.
Welcome to Florida. People vote for conservatism for "small government" but complain when issues come to their doorsteps.
Be aware of who you are voting for people. That senator is not your friend.
The first thing that came to mind!!! 🤣🤣😅
Why can't they improve the working conditions and recruit people with a passion for agriculture. There's many areas for improvement on the side of the agriculture industry owners.
@void9837 It will always be a back breaking job of which Americans are not willing to take on. I wish Juvenile delinquents were forced into this, so that the $ they might have made would pay for their room, board & etc. Tough love is very healthy. They can still learn ALOT on the field & around it. Just a thought. "Sra Isa"
That Senator is one of the most corrupt fascists in this excuse for a government. Our economy is heading into the tank. Every statistic that shows a poor economy are on the rise, homelessness, foreclosures, increased food bank use, increased unemployment, housing crisis, all of that except corporate profits for the most subsidized industries in this country. DeSantis is the worst thing to happen to Florida even next to Rick “5th Amendment” Scott.
@@void9837because capitalism 😂
Blame it on Ronnie and Donnie Dumb
a.k.a dumb and dumber.
My favorite irony is that for as red as Florida is when it comes to reducing or eliminating illegal immigration, the right have no alternatives for filling positions that have traditionally been held by undocumented workers. I very much doubt that any of Florida's millions of retirees or legal American citizens will leave the air-conditioned comfort of their condos or even a fast food restaurant just to pick crops in hot weather. And the best part is that this dilemma is only adding to difficulties of living in Florida as more insurance companies have abandoned anyone who chooses to live in a state famous for expensive hurricanes.
yessir and with there januess gop vote for them. and STAY there
All of us Floridians must open our homes and take new commers in. That's the true American way.
Elon musk's Tesla robots will do it in about a year anyway! Kick them out
There's no irony. Only the media wants to portray agriculture as using only illegal labor. The farmer interviewed uses LEGAL labor. If it ever got to be a problem, then we stop sending kids to schools for useless degrees and put them to work in the fields. A little hard work won't hurt them.
@@PeonSanders911 In a year Tesla will be on the verge of bankruptcy lol. Don't kick out immigrants, kick out people like you instead.
Those farmers deserve the government their state voted for👌
Many of them spew the same vitriol and rhetoric about illegal immigrants, knowing fully well that Americans DO NOT and WILL NOT work under those conditions.
i'm ok with that. food prices need to skyrocket. produce should only be affordable to the rich.
I can work in farm
@@noerodriguez9047
Studies have been done since the 1960's It'd be a hard failing to admit Just like all those other's Americans did in studies
Yes like a democrat would of been better. 😅
Georgia tried this and it failed spectacularly
I live in Georgia. So did the politicians capitulate to their owner's demands (big Ag) and get rid of a good program to curb illegal immigration?
What did they try and how did it fail?
Passed a similar law as Florida around early/mid 2000s. This affected their agriculture production. Crops were left unpicked/unplanted. Couldn’t find enough native born ppl or legal immigrants to work in this field. So it had an economical impact in this industry. Be ready to see the price of produce go up like it did when Georgia and a few southern States implemented this type of law
@RR-lt8cm BS. Crops get dumped all the time for many reasons other than not enough legal labor. However if you flood a country with illegal labor, that will definitely drive wages down. Trucking has seen this big time over the last 4 years.
The CEOs seek cheaper labor across the border and overseas. Cheaper labor doesn't need to enter. American citizens are being laid off. Why are you listening to the people who have wealth and no work ethic?? @francismarion6400
As sad as it is for the migrants being forced to leave FL, Desantis & FL GOP deserve the economic fallout that will happen next year! GA tried this & found out the hard way!
And farmers will still stupidly vote republican.
Not going to happen there are ways to get workers legally they just want the cheapest.
Let me guess you graduated economics from columbia.
The two 'experts" that responded to your post didn't even watch the video no doubt because the grower stated at 0:55 that getting new help isn't easy or possible.
I live in massachusetts in the economic downfall of taken care of over twenty thousand adults and putting them in all in hotel The moped gangs driving vehicles and no license or insurance, causing everybody else's insurance to go up,
Fifty deep in a one bedroom apartment. This is the biggest theft of american taxpayers Probably in the history of the world.
Now we need all able-bodied Floridians to start doing all the jobs that they don't want to do luckily for us water breaks are no longer provided a new law that was also signed by the Republicans
Like THAT is going to happen…who the hell do they think is going to perform those unbelievably difficult jobs?
Not to mention providing shaded area. When I read that, I just couldn't believe it...just inhumane.
@@chottozumiit’s simple: they don’t want any agricultural industry in Florida. There is a labor shortage so either you treat your workers well or you don’t have workers.
And breaks are simply necessary in this climate to keep on working. Someone dropping out of work after 4 hour due to a heat stroke will not help the farmer and certainly never return to this farm.
@@svenweihusen57 Great point. My thought on it, as soon as I read your comment:maybe BlackRock et al are trying to monopolize the land ownership. Maybe, Bill Gates, in on it, too? 😬😬
@@svenweihusen57 Unless the victim visits one of those lawyers that advertise on TV for a personal injury claim based on an unsafe workplace.
The last guy gets it: if the workers don't come here to work, they'll work somewhere else and export food to the US. Not exactly a great policy for national food security.
@@holycrapchris talk about stupid decisions huh!?
Carrots, Onions, Cabbages, Potatoes, Cranberries, Certain varieties of Sweet Corn, Peanuts, Every staple grain, “Process grade” tomatoes, and many tree nuts, plus many many more produce items… What do they have in common?
They can ALL be farmed with machines that drastically reduce human labor.
Dyson of Great Britain has already developed smart machines that can HARVEST STRAWBERRIES, yes delicate strawberries.
Every person interested in this subject needs to DO THEIR RESEARCH on European and Japanese agricultural technology. It is MILES ahead of America.
Also, who cares if you have to import tomatoes from Mexico?
Yes indeed, how stupid!! This sort of nonsense is only exploiting the ignorance of many and those who are easily fooled. There are work visas H-1B that the farmers can apply for, for his workers. There are now and have been for decades workers who legally come over to work and when the season is over, they go home. It's for seasonal workers. The problem is, these people don't want to do it legally. Stop falling for the BS!
Crackdowns result in same issues over the decades for ag industry. Florida’s naive to think state will escape consequences. Immigration system’s indeed broken, and US food security along with it.
@@holycrapchris Competeing with Mexico at Mexican labor rates isn't fair.
If farmers vote red, what do they expect? It seems the people who vote Republican always end up getting shafted. How can I sympathize with them if this is what they chose? It sucks for the rest of us too...we also pay the price in higher food costs.
Facts. They complain about them publicly but hire them privately. There are several accounts of farmers trying to hire legal citizens but most of the time they'd quit before the first day was over. If you think fruits and veggies are expensive now? Wait til they actually have to pay minimum wage and hire "Colton" fresh outta high school. If he can even last out there. You have to want to survive to do that work bc I damn sure wouldn't. Lol. I know how privileged I am.
I'm a farmer and I vote red. And I don't use immigrants for labor and never will. Gets to where I can't do it myself or hire some high school boys from time to time. I'll quit.
This is just Bs propaganda they push these big farm use to get cheap labor. .
You voted for higher food costs and they keep rising thanks to you so quit whining.
They want tax cuts and deregulation but they also want cheap immigrant labour.
That senator is sitting there being righteous in his suit, while the farmer is telling you what is really happening. What is happening is that the Senator is cracking down on people looking for better opportunities, by using the law as his shield for his distaste of immigrants. We have to elect better politicians, I will leave it at that.
That Senator is a GD liar.
@@trevor2001 To have a valid argument is what defines sanity, you lack that friend
@@stevea2909 And whats your argument? Pretty ironic you disagree with someone with an argument but you have none to offer.
People can look for better opportunities as long as they follow the rules. Apply for the appropriate VISA through USCIS, not by entering another Country illegally. If I come to your house eshoandy and sneak in and help myself to the keys to your vehicle and steal it (because I am looking for a better opportunity) are you going to support me and dismiss the fact I broke into your house and stole your truck? Yes, you say? Ahh, here comes my cousin next week and he breaks in and steals your new vehicle, are you going to support that as well? Yes? Here comes my brother in law the next week and he breaks into your house and steals your vehicle. I'm sure you see the pattern here.
Illegal and undocumented immigration is not fair to the hundreds of thousands of people who have been waiting 10+ years and that filed for proper entry VISAS through the USCIS. You're worse than the NFL if you want to enforce some US laws such as breaking an entering and grand theft auto, bank robbery, Ponzi schemes etc but you don't believe it is right to enforce US immigration laws!
Hey c’mon:
People once listened to Donald trump & mike pence instead of Dr Anthony Fauci!
They glossed over the part where the Florida Republican State Senators and Representatives told the farmers, not to worry about the new laws (in 2023). They told the farmers, the laws would not be enforced. But, many farm workers fled directly after the law passed.
they still have workers. they have to pay them an extra $0.50 per hour.
@@eldebtor6973 Not if they don't want the work. It's hard work and pays squat.
@@davidlong1786 guess they’ll have to raise the pat
@@eldebtor6973tell me who? Even most migrants don’t want the work once they get the papers.
@@eldebtor6973 Do you really believe that these businesses will pay more money to get keep workers? They voted to get rid of their own workers, they never think of the long run.
When Bush Jr. got elected in 2001 he wanted to do immigation reform right off the bat and got no where in his party. George Bush as governor of Texas he knew and realized that Mexico was by far are our largest trading partner in the world and it was going to be good business in the LONG run to create a path to legalize workers to come to the US and to have a fair and efficient system for people to be vetted and become citizens. Build bridges not walls to solve this issue. It's never to late to do the right thing.
*In addition, in April, Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a law banning local municipalities from requiring employers to give heat breaks to outdoor workers No shade, no water, no breaks: DeSantis' new law threatens Florida outdoor worker health.*
When scientifically on some of our 105+ degree days these should be occurring at least every hour.
@nealskrenes2612 I've worked in construction for 28 years down in South Florida and no one ever stopped me from taking a water break nor have I ever heard of anyone else being stopped from taking a water break.
I tried to respond directly to francismarion6400 , but RUclips wouldn’t let me so all right it here:
Your past experiences have no bearing on Florida House Bill 433, (you can check this out with Google. Can’t post a link here) which DeSantis signed into law in April. so an employer on their own, can decide to offer shade and water brakes, but the official Republican position is that no local government can demand that they do so. Truly, an inhumane view of all of those who labor in the extreme heat, not just immigrants.
Desantis did sign that law. Employers choose to continue to allow water breaks but no one can force them.
Tried to reply directly to marjoriejean-louis1229, but RUclips won’t let me so I’ll do it here. You believe that *capitalist employers are more humane than the government, which is supposed to look after the health and welfare of its citizens, is some kind of a defense!?*
Thank you for your valid point and observations. It gives me hope for future generations to do better than our parents.
They dont want to fix the broken system they just want to shut the door to make their base happy
You want this fixed? Talk to your member of Congress.
@nickg2561 Democrats Don't want to fix the border. We don't want more people. Wages are stagnant, health care is expensive if you can get it, taxes are high, and everything else is inflated costs too!
@@nickg2561 Shutting the door makes wages go up.
Yyeess!
@@francismarion6400 who’s wages will go up?
Allow farmers to employ these workers so they can be properly taxed and have a living wage while they are waiting to process their immigration paperwork. It’s a win win. The rise of crops and food are only going to go up. No American is willing to take on these jobs smh
Nope, deport.
@mkate1947 Cattle and hogs are still primarily raised by citizen owners.
They are taxed, being undocumented doesn’t mean the irs doesn’t want their share. Also not everyone qualifies to become legal due to undocumented entry or having a path to become legal.
Nothing called win-win here. They’re in the US wrong in the beginnings and will have to face consequences if get caught. Don’t encourage any more wrong doings.
@@bradhuffjr777 Cattle and hogs may be raised by citizen owners but I would like to eat some vegetables too.
Edit:
BTW, the crops in the border states were often cultivated by Mexicans who entered the USA under the "Bracero Program." The USA and Mexico had an arrangement for workers to enter the USA for agricultural work. When the program ended, some growers closed their agricultural business. They couldn't get workers to do the work, not high school students, not people in their 20s. Most who started the day didn't stay until the end of the day.
As an example, the Maniscalco Cactus Ranch, in San Diego County, the largest producer of cactus apples in the world and an exporter from the USA to Mexico, and a producer of melons and tomatoes, closed operations, was sold and developed into small homes.
Migrant farm workers experience horrific working conditions. There are no protections and are less expensive to the farmers.
Right
The reason why you see the exploitation and why no matter what group, fair wages and conditions s/b mandated.
and the taxpayer pays the bills for their cheap labor.
So why not arrest all the criminals get tough on crime folks.Why hiring them ain't no felony?!
@@ronnieitaquab1008 Actually, it is a felony. It's called 'greasing palms' to avoid accountability.
It's amazing how they always eventually admit that it's about importing cheap labor. How about you pay better?
@@bradesibd.-uz2zmshit goes up all the time without actually increasing worker’s pay so that argument just doesn’t work it goes for almost everything yeah it goes up tomorrow be fair but not to the extent that it’ll be unaffordable for the majority of people. Just an excuse to keep paying worker’s low wages and it goes for anything just look at how much it costs to produce certain electronics and medications amd how much it actually sells for
@@bradesibd.-uz2zmit would actually be less. You have undocumented immigrants using up the resources without contributing to pot with taxes. Ya hiring legal workers cost more to the business owner but those legal workers pay taxes unlike undocumented workers
That is not what has made our food go higher . A worker deserves fair wages for his work .
Without slaves/immigrants who will do X ?
@Johnarchiebald some of the lazy, overweight high school students.
Republicans EXCEL at pointing out problems. On the other hand, coming up with viable solutions...not so much!
I think you misspelled Democrats...
Heck they even make the problems.
Look what biden and harris two democrats what they have done for America everything is double price or more
@@curie3938Democrats excel at creating and exploiting problems.
@@curie3938 all you guys do is deflect to democrats yet they actually come up with solutions to fix these problems
Republicans thoughts on illegal immigrants: “we want the labor; but not the immigrants !”
Liberals thoughts on Mass Illegal Migration: "I want it, but I can't logically defend it".
Republican and Democratic politicians are one in the same. In it for their own best interest, they could care less about you and me and the illegals.
True. Both parties love playing those type of mind games on people.
Republicon food processor plants exploit foreign workers
@@morrisparrish76 Monsanto aren't Republicans.
There won't be food in Florida but we will have lots of golf courses in our state parks.
😂😂
Lmao shoutout to DeSantis 😭😒🤦🏽♀️
...but nobody to maintain the landscaping, lol.
And gated communities
@joemanly9519 Blackrock and such are buying up all the farmland and it has nothing to do with labor.
Florida is going to have to pay competitive wages for their agriculture workers now. You’re going to have to keep raising wages until people start showing up to apply. For triple digit temperatures I’m thinking something like $25 an hour after taxes to start.
You all say this but say 25$ for a food service worker would raise the price of a burger. Which one is it?
So more than teachers? So what about when everything is growing? Everyone needs help during picking times. Not planting or growing. So the farmer should pay for weeks while nothing is being done. Great real.
@@johnallenbailey1103 don't get mad at him. If you think he is wrong show us how you can go out and do it for less money. Half of this country is just out of touch with reality l!
@@adamcasas6519 THIS IS A DUD ACCOUNT, @adamcasas6519 DOESN'T HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ACCOUNT. REPORTED.
Wow, that politician is lying through his teeth. Construction and agriculture has taken a hit. Prices are continuing to rise because no one is able to pick food or work.
As a very young boy living on a rather large ranch that employed immigrants illegally..but dutiful workers..loyal.One night, it was pitch black and a truck was coming into the lane slowly with its lights off.And I asked my mother who is that and why are they driving slow with no lights on ? She said it's the immigration they are hoping to catch the workers camp where the men are sleeping. They are going to deport them back to Mexico because they are here illegally. And they try to catch them off guard..and beat them up.But she said they always have someone on look out..and then they run into the fields. It was the beginning of my understanding what was to be...the understanding of coming to work here to send money back to their family. It was a very sad situation for them and myself. Young as I was it the first of many times ahead to find out about the facts of life..and unfairness. Most Americans would not do this kind of labor..! This country was founded on immigrants. My heart goes out to those in this kind of predicament.The person on the nicely dressed suit at the end of the segment has this in his mind..it looks good on paper so it will work.And the tomato farmer is correct in his statement. It's doomed for failure on both counts. It's a shame all around !!!!
It's not immigrants, it's ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! There are work visas H-1B that seasonal workers can get. I know first hand because I and many of my family members have done so. And after many years of working here legally with a work visa, we applied for green cards with the help of local nonprofit and immigration attorney. We are now all here and are sworn in as US citizens. Those who are here illegally choose to enter illegally because they chose to not respect the laws and the process. But there is a process and there is a path to LEGAL immigration. Many are on the legal path because they choose the LEGAL path and not the ILLEGAL one.
@@faithandgrace8244 I'm glad it all worked out.
Here's something to think about.
How long did the whole process for your entire family take.
Don't you think it was too long with an awful lot of hoops to jump through.
While you were going through that whole process how much less money did you earn because of your status?
I'd love to take back through all the payroll records of your family during this process.
I guarantee you we're being taken advantage of even if you didn't know it.
I know if I was in this situation that some of these people are in I would come in at all cost.
This country was not founded on immigrants. It was founded on indigenous Indians that got their land taken and black slaves that worked fields for hundreds of years WITHOUT pay
@michaelvaladez6570 I worked at a recycling place once, and we had a fire. When the fire trucks showed up, all the workers ran off into the woods. They all came back to work the next day.
Hell yes! Raised in the SW and
and have watched these people make America work. We need to care for them.
Never bite the hand that feeds you😂
Suits who've never got dirt under their nails, are over stepping. They're screwing farmers.
That’s it. It’s not like Americans don’t want to do farming. They just won’t deal with corporate bs the way migrants would.
@@smrk2452nope
I worked picking strawberry in the 70s for 1 month
It's a very hard job
I don't know any Americans that would do that job today
@@smokindauberdoo4208 the problem is industrial farming. There are people all over RUclips farming for self-sustainability. There are also documentaries about American farmers dealing with corporations. The system is failing us on so many levels.
The farmers voted the suits to office, let them live with it
* gotten. Not “got.”
These kind of laws have been passed in other states before and failed . It will fail in Florida as well .
@@danielfalcon450 There's already robots that can work in fields.
@ILovePancakes24 Wouldn't be much different than what I do now. But no, my carpentry company benefited from his tax plan before and I was able to grow the company. Usually people that say stuff like you just did, are the laziest in a society.
@@francismarion6400which robot can pick strawberries?
@@bluebandites multiple. been in use for almost 10 years now.
@@francismarion6400 THIS IS A DUD ACCOUNT, @francismarion6400 DOESN'T HAVE AN INDIIVDUAL BEHIND THIS ACCOUNT. REPORTED.
congress had a bi-partisan bill that was all set to pass until trump told republicans to vote againist it.
@@grannana It wasn't going to stop illegal immigration. The Senate refused to pass a single issue bill.
tied up with ukraine funding i bet. there are no more single issue bills in congress.
@@alexanderc3467It had nothing to do with Ukraine. Trump told Republicans not to vote for it as it would be seen as a win for Biden.
GOP doesn't want legal immigration either. Look how GOP vote when it comes to funding the legal process.
I've heard directly from farmers that they are hurting to find workers, since the 90's. It's just getting worse for them. I hear it first hand. My family is farmers.
Exactly, Maybe its people like billy gates trying to get judges to pass these laws to get farmers to go bankrupt and take over?
And how do they vote…because most republicans one against their own interests because they think they are better than the next.
Keep voting for people with stupid ideas and expect less than stupid results.
Want the labor but don't want to pay wages! Last year workers got fired because it was 110 degrees in the field and workers wanted to leave it was too hot duh!!
And high as the cost of living is an American can't work that cheap
These folks are an important part of our economy for sure. Our nation was built with immigrant labor, my grandfather being one who came over through Ellis Island in 1919. Whats wrong with an Ellis Island type immigration program once again?
@Bob-The-Guy We have a working visa program. Migrants want construction jobs now instead of farm jobs. This is in part due to our education system which has pushed everyone to get useless degrees instead of going into trades.
The people that would come in would be too brown so the GOP would never pass reforms like that.
@@francismarion6400no it's due to spoiled nation. Every empire runs through this cycle. Your parents came and worked hard because they had to. What they told you was go to school so you wouldn't break your back. Every generation afterward works a little less until they do not work at all.
They're working let them work they're not robbing people
Yes they are robbing people we need those jobs.
Yes they are, omg. Do you not watch the news?
They are robbing people. Get a clue.
@@smrk2452Wow, racist much? 🙄
Exactly!
It's gonna drive up the grocery / food prices. Wait for it. Reps will deny that fact when it happens.
They'll blame your nearest Democrats
For those who are in denial because of the apparent hypocrisy and paradox of historically “conservative” farmers employing undocumented immigrants, welcome to America. We were built on such contradictions of ideals. Yes, they want their cake, and they want to eat it to, but they damn sure don’t want to pay anyone full price for it so of course they are going to resort to the cheapest labor possible. That’s the American way, for better or for worse. It certainly is problematic and it poses risks to all parties. But there’s no reason to demonize either side, because the farmers are forced to do it to stay competitive without going belly up, and the immigrants just want to work and seek a better life, like all of us. This has been going on since well before our lifetime. Don’t let fear mongering politicians make you think a century + old practice has become a crisis overnight because a democrat is in the White House.
But yet Americans said they were taking their jobs. If these low paying jobs aren’t the jobs they were referring too, then what were those jobs? Hmmm BS walking and talking.
Maybe Walmart et Al will pay more and take a cut in its profits. For the good of the community of course.
The state needs to stop voting Republican to change things.
All I'm hearing from these farmers are "how is it going to affect ME and my profits?" what about the human lives it affects? THE WORKERS. America needs to make the immigration process more efficient and fair.
Harris/Biden purposely imported 10+ million illegal immigrants - more population than 10 of our states. How many do we need. Democrats just want to replace Americans with new votes. That’s what racist about the Harris/Biden intentional policies.
I mean, they were asking them their perspectives after all. But you kinda have to frame it tgat way for Americans to care and eventually politicians to act.
Ditto
Liar. The guy opens with his heart being on his farm and the people that work on it. So you are a liar.
You obviously have no idea where your food comes from.
A lot of farmers in Homestead FL used Telemundo to let people know that they had fields full of fruit and vegetables that were going to go to waste because the workers left in fear because of the new law, and they wanted people to go and grab as many fruits and vegs as they wanted for free. It was a shameful scene with a economically heavy toll to the farmers.
It could have been DeSantis using Florida taxpayer money so they show up and become political props too, they aint stupid.
People complain about the price of food but dont realize we need these people who work in horrible conditions to keep prices lower.
Produce is "affordable" on the backs of immigrant labor.
@@Cecilia1902-2 When will you go out to harvest the crops, then?
White males at the mall shopping for new shoes with Mom's credit card
@@Cecilia1902-2 right
@@jeanetteschock4744 You sound horribly entitled.
We live in St Petersburg, FL and I have noticed changes in vegetable and fruit supplies at Whole Foods Market. The produce here is not so fresh. I saw rotten produce as well! And ‘out of stock’ has become normal. It's frustrating to go grocery shopping in Florida nowadays.
How about Publix near Central Avenue near Janus Landing? There's an arm guard.
In Jacksonville we still regularly have empty shelves at the only Walmart around, the apples are the size of plumbs now, for $4.99 a bag.
most so called "farmers market" produce comes from"pinhookers" who get their shipped-in produce from wholesale distributors
@@trevor2001 Walmart is not a good example. Nearly all of their produce is imported, and they never use local farm products. Never. Everything goes through Bentonville Arkansas.
@@davidgough3512 That's not true in New Jersey, at all.
Let those who always shout "Go back to your country" work in those fields.
Id love to see that 😂
@@ItsGRamirez01 haha they wouldn't last a minute!
Easy solution raise the minimum wage to a living wage or fire the Republicans in Florida
Both
@@susannpatton2893WHAT? I do live in South Florida, down in the Florida Keys. And when I'm up in the Redlands in the homestead area where a lot of agricultural crops are grown year round and by migrant workers, YOU will See a lot of tomatoes and stuff rotting in the fields becuz there ain't enough people to pick them, and when the tomatoes rot in the field, the prices go up at Publix and everywhere else they sell them, and the tomatoes, beans and avocados, papayas, mangoes zucchini squash watermelons pumpkins. Unpicked, turn back into the dirt from which they came. And the prices go up.
In order for Americans to work in the same harsh condition as an migrant. You would have to pay 6 figures salaries, nothing less than that.
Florida just raised the minimum wage to $13/hour genius.
@@trevor2001 In Florida, the AEWR (H-2A) pay rates are now $14.77 p/ hour, as of January 1st 2024.
How proud the GOP must feel. The party that basically will create food insecurity, weaken the economies of many states, and proudly say "this is the right thing to do".
DeSantis also has an insane home and auto insurance crisis, that’s he’s just denying doesn’t exist.
@@mepulley7913 Regulations are creating food insecurity. The small farmers have to sell out to big farmers like Monsanto and Tyson. Those guys will deliberately create shortages to raise prices. Think!
@@francismarion6400 - That is what I'm doing - thinking. Exactly the opposite of the division the GOP creates and also Congress by not acting on comprehensive immigration.
@mepulley7913 Well maybe the Democrats can craft a border bill without attaching money to Ukrain for once.
@@francismarion6400 - Do you even realize the amount of money wars produce for rich people? Contracts by extension that are awarded by our government. The DOD surplus of products are given to LE departments across the US. My point and I do have one is, wars are favored by our government officials on BOTH SIDES!
America is sick.
No, Ron Santos is sick
You can leave anytime my friend!
@@ectorreyes5470AmeriKKKa is a very sick country. Just look at its history.
@@azulaquaza4916 Don’t fear the truth, friend. Find help.
How can I profit from American citizens struggles plz advise
I thought Florida was going to put child labor to fill in this gap
Or inmates. lol
Right
I want to see blonde-haired, blue-eyed, English-speaking children working the fields.
The issue is that America has always exploited farm labor going back to its founding and that exploitation has existed throughout its history. You see it in works like "The Grapes Of Wrath" which documented white tenant farmers in the late depression era. Not to mention migrant workers of the 1950s and 60s were mostly black and lived in squalid conditions with poor pay as documented by Edward R Murrow in "Harvest of Shame". This is why you had the growth and development of the United Farm Workers who openly rejected importing immigrant labor because it would allow for the exploitation to continue. And this is what is going on now. And using illegal immigrants to do this work is nothing but exploitation because the farmers refuse to raise the pay to compensate people properly.
@dnifty1 the few who can purchase a $2.5 million yacht like a soda - and the desperate looking for a job guit within 30 minutes. Hard work ethic isn't a dream that you fantasize about. Hard work ethic isn't exploited( 98% of us are exploited). Hard work ethic succeeds.
@@newNILRULEisgreat.2504 None of that has any bearing on the reality of greed and the desire to work people without paying them. This is the reason so many Europeans were willing to leave Europe and travel to places like America. What you are talking about is a fantasy that exploitation hasn't been part of European and other societies for thousands of years. It isn't an issue of hard work, it is an issue of who owns the land and is the one paying for that work. In your fantasy world Europeans and only believe in merit and never exploit anybody and make sure the wealth gets distributed fairly when we all know that is false.
@@dnifty1 you are talking about a completely different subject. The haves and the have nots. Greed has always existed. Not even you will pay someone who doesn't ever show up to work.
@@dnifty1 Giving someone a job is now exploitation! lol
@@dnifty1 Wealth isn't a finite resource.
Because no American in their right mind would ever work in those scorching fields. Migrant labor is needed and Desantis is bankrupting his own state, besides growing food please tell me what Florida is known for?
DisneyWorld and beaches come to mind! And the reason Americans would never work in the fields is not because of the scorching fields. It's because of the pay. Simply put, you can't stay in the middle class making the wages these workers make. And that's kind of the point. The only way fruits and veggies can be sold to Americans at a cost that's at least somewhat affordable is ti pay low wages and the only people that can accept that are those coming from central and south America. So in that regard, you're correct that Desantis is making things worse, but he gets to throw meat to his xenophobic voter base, so it's all good!
So really, we have a great deal of gratitude to show to those “pickers” from South and Central America. They feed use, our children, our elderly. They’ve been demonized for nothing but political gain.
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No, in Florida, adult employees working 8 hours are not legally required to be given a lunch break by their employers, as state and federal laws do not mandate meal or rest breaks for adult workers; the decision to provide breaks is entirely up to the employer's discretion.
There is a bill before congress that would help address the problem.
What happened to that?
Trump kaboshed it.
The Republicans wouldn't vote on it
I've been watching this issue for 40 years now. You would think by now someone would come up with an answer.
Not if the problem is more profitable for the politicians.
cheap unprotected labor is their goal, while they pretend to support U.S. workers for the votes.. so immigration reform will not actually happen.. except where there's a population boom (Florida) where farm land is coveted for development, in which case immigration reform is a weaponized ruse to make farmers fail and sell off their pre cleared, pre leveled and pre drained land.
The AEWR (H-2A Visa) pay rates for seasonal immigrant workers are actually between $14 and $20 for the 50 states and D.C. So, unless you're unfortunate enough to be an immigrant in Puerto Rico or Guam, the pay rates exceed the Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour, by 2x.
@@stevenmitchell1 piecework is the rule for harvest work, by the box, flat, bin, bushel or pound
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least of big corporate produce companies are behind the restrictions since they can make more from importing.
Yep. I posted the same comment above.
So my question is:
How many employers of undocumented individuals are arrested
Or
Is it just pointed to the workers? 🤬
It was to scare the farmers and big industrial
But a lot of them move out
A relative told me back in the 70s and 80s Otay Mesa (South East San Diego) was a wire as it's border. The border patrol would be lenient during harvesting season on the tomato farms nearby.
Streamline the legal system right at the farm with honest oversight and the hiring system will remain strong for all of us. Otherwise expect the cost of producing and providing raw food far more expensive.
You're acting as though Desantis cares about this. All he wants to do is look like he's a tough guy on immigration. He couldn't give a rat's behind that he's actually making things worse.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 not at all. Vote desantis out asap.
Even when there was a bill proposed to improve the legal immigration system in Congress I saw conservatives complain it would let too many people over the border daily. I think they just want everything to be dysfunctional and broken so they can complain. The outrage addiction ought to be considered an epidemic.
Producers of our food! Thank you for doing the work. We do not want imported produce and we should pay attention to what we are putting in our mouths for sustenance and not just what's coming out in political rhetoric. You are hurting our farmers and our country pushing us to imported processed food and potentially killing the future.
Sadly the same people crying for labor voted the very scumbags that passed these laws….reap what y’all sow
The government should give these people permit to work period!! As long as crime is not committed why not give them the job? Subsequently the crops can be planted and harvested too! Too much politics.
Your right, too many politicians involved in the farm labor problem. Prices are high for everyone and farm labor needs to eat, clothing and shelter. They should earn a living wage on there would be a lot more unemployment among the residents to. I am 71, but I need more money, I'm trying to live on minimal social security so I work for a day or two if I can. I paid in for 30+years.
@slipslop9990 Sure and then we can pay $8 a pound for tomatoes and 75% of the people will stop buying them. You act as though there's a magic money tree to pay them these higher wages. You should probably go back and listen to the last part of the video again. If restrictions make it that the price to grow fruits and veggies goes up to a point where it's cheaper to simply import them, then that's what will happen.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Exactly!!
20 million illegal aliens , Believe me NO LAW will stop companies to hire anyone who wants to work.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 I live down in South Florida in the keys and I buy tomatoes at Publix and I see them rotting in the fields and I buy Three Tomatoes at Publix small ones mind you and they cost about $3. Who's getting all that money whose prophets are way up, it's not the farmers. I see all kinds of produce rotten in the field for lack of someone to pick it.
Doesn't look like he actually does any farming... looks like he does all the eating! 😂
My last two trips to FL each hotel did not offer any housekeeping to me for 3 week stays! No clean sheets, towels, etc.!! I won't be going back!
You clean your own house right?
Or some other method?
Maybe they let them go and no one else will do the job?
Maybe do better research on what hotel to stay at?
Thank you for sharing this, so many don’t understand the ramifications of no migrant workers
@@bloatedsodium7301you can research all day and no hotel is going to state they don’t have housekeeping
Was this at Disney?
Easy fix. New Governor.
We have the worst governor in the United states here.
They deserve a pathway to citizenship
Legal immigration should be the gold standard and those here illegally should be given an opportunity for path to citizenship and/or legal work status. Just keep in mind that once you remove "illegal" immigrants the price of goods are probably going to go up or as the last farmer said, goods will probably be imported from countries with even cheaper labor like China. So those hating on immigrants, just keep that in mind when your goods are more expensive.
The problem with Florida, my state, it how it is being run. Desatin has vision and the people have their own. They are very different. Desatin is pushing his on the people. We hired him to look out for the state and the people. Not to serve himself. Something he can not grasp. But I have to look on the positive side, he will be done and gone in two more years. Hope is we will elect someone that will do the job we hire them for. Without hope you have nothing.
the interesting part is he was doing shady things first term. he was reelected and now he is continuing with those shady things. I only hear people complaining now bc the newest wave targets them. no one cared when he was talking crazy and passing ridiculous things first term. it's kinda like well, good. I know the lesson I'd like residents to learn is missed on them, but I hope ppl realize when red flags are being waved, take note bc you're next
Political grandstanding, mainly the GOP, and now the Democratically led executive branch actively made this an issue that will not go away until a majority of US growers are out of business. Also, violence against immigrants is at an all-time high (look it up). We do things in extremes without using critical thinking skills. Add to this the loss of unbiased Civics and US history instruction in education, leading to a mess of misunderstanding and misguided action.
We know what to do, but our elected officials respond to the direction of hot air media and extremist small-group biases. It's a mess.
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There's going to be a lot of "help wanted" signs for Americans who want to dig holes @ construction sites.
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1. The GOP don't want a solution because they want chaos. 2. Gringos won't do the work. 3. Ag employers have two choices: a. cut back on what you sow. b. Watch your crops rot in the field. Wait till Trump's tariffs take hold. Inflation is going up 2% to 3% and unemployment will increase by millions. Way to go MAGA.
Dont say "You don't want the immigrants. " We want LEGAL immigrants. Devise a Guest Worker program that benefits labor, management, the state, everyone.
If that would happen, who would be the political boogie man (pawn).
@@MM-sf3rl Exactly. Also, it's well known that the people who own businesses, especially farms, are far more likely to be republican than the general population. The system right now provides them a way to pay sub minimum wage, and abuse their workers since the workers have no legal protections. There's multiple reasons why the republican party refuses to do anything about reforming immigration, democrats have tried.
They have one, but it’s not enforced so people come here in a limited visa and then overstay, and nothing happens to them.
@@MM-sf3rlpolitical boogie man, I like that
There's already H-2A, which makes it legal. It's not even supposed to be difficult. But that may require farmers to pay minimum wage.
Hmmm wasn’t the idea to bring prices down on food!
Don’t worry Trump has all the answers! He will fix it!
IF Trump hadn’t interfered in the huge border changing bill that was agreed upon by both Parties, things would be starting to be fixed. It angers me when Republicans are still fear mongering about the border.
In florida it's all on Desatin vote 🗳 blue 🇺🇸 🗳 💙
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Become legal.
Explain then how the process should go since everything is easy to say when you dont live through it becky
The reason American people won't help with the farmers is the very taxes they pay is used to help farmers subsidies..
high pay labor high food prices😮
Los Gringos Son lazy.
Florida Farmers voted themselves into financial ruin. Come to Missouri...it's not as bad as Florida.
You can't ignore the contributions that undocumented immigrants pay into the economy. Whether it's through local, state, or federal taxes, their economic impact is enormous.
@@ibme93 You also can't ignore the cost!
Illegal immigrants file taxes with ITIN number, they get all that money back plus EITC and Child Tax Credit($3600-$3000 per child)
Illegal Immigrants get tens of thousands of dollars in cash from the US taxpayer, on top of free education/Healthcare/Food for their American born anchor baby children.
You people that talk like this never grasp the backend cost of this "cheap labor". Its not cheap when these people get to suck up social services intended for our own poor people.
those Jobs are SWEATSHOPS !!!Inhumane specially OUtdoors !!!Work3 months and be Off another 3 months!!! Only those at the very Bottom would DARE!!!
Keep voting red.😢
And our citizens like our senator 😂 sometimes I think the heat and humidity has clouded everyone’s ability to see that they’re being lied to
If you do a physical labor job you shouldn’t be taxed. Guarantee the workforce will jump by 20% in just one quarter alone
As a former farmer I would rather hire someone from Mexico or another country. They work hard. They don't complain all the time. I always hired legal and always paid the going legal wage. Treat them with respect and they will more than return the favor. Grant more work permits.
I APPLAUD THIS, as someone who has spent thousands of dollars in work visa applications and has waited for years for the due process to be complete.
You know these farmers hire immigrants yet they look down on them. Yet again when the immigrants leave these same farmers cry.
Get all your family out there with the immigrants picking and packing not just watching and cry about labor shortage and thank desantis
Young American people are not going to do or want to do this physical type of labor of work.
The farmers should encourage them to get their H-2A work permit.
Serves Florida right.
Taking tax money out of their paycheck leave these people alone
They have always paid taxes!
@@FollowTheJohnthey didn't pay taxes on my sisters nextdoor home.
@@FollowTheJohnonly paying taxes on a stolen SS# claiming 25 dependents and then not filing. That’s how they get $4K a month in food stamps. I know how that game works. Don’t be so naive.
The chickens have come home to roost and those aren’t BLACK JOBS anymore this century Florida. They will force the prison inmates to do it in the next few years.
Florida needs to raise the minimum wage and you will have a much larger Workforce, and you might not even need immigrants. The immigrants have been coming here for thousands of years to pick crops and to work farms under the Aztec and Mayan Dynasty. They would make a yearly Journey North. It is in DNA. Birds, animals and fish migrate. But we all need to eat
you kidding no they don’t. Move to Florida you will know
@@sireconde5969 I think I already replied today I'm all about it and I don't think of it is a problem I need to do all the little bosses down here that higher the immigrants. You don't speak Spanish you don't stand a chance
LOL let me know what Americans will work in the field for $25 an hour. Also what are your thoughts on apples costing $3 each so they can pay that wage.
Story after story these farmers say they try to bring Americans in and they usually last less than a day.
Apples don’t grow in Florida.
@@edwardroche2480😂😂😂 what a good joke.
Yea I side with this farmer it would be next to impossible to hire Americans to do that intensive labor for minimal pay. Legal Immigrants are essential to our economy. The only other option would be use Inmate labor
Shame on us for allowing this inhumane treatment.
All Americans should work early morning at the farm for $2 a day
We are all from somewhere . Not here .My family came to the USA in 1697 from the Holland yes we are Americans with a past,!!!!
Was there a generous taxpayers funded safety net?
if you dont produce it in your own country you will have to import it from another country
I just visited Fla for first time.. across the state. Living in Ca, my jaw dropped how there’s no dystopian levels of walking dead homelessness like our crisis. (Except When Xi Jinping comes to visit of course).
Come to Jacksonville, there’s plenty.
One more chapter in theSouth’s book of horrors.
Every high schooler could have a job in ag or the service industry