Mortal Shell - Nintendo Switch - DF Tech Review - An Ambitious Port Blighted By Poor Performance

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • An indie-based Souls-like game running on Unreal Engine 4, we rather liked Mortal Shell on PC, PlayStation and Xbox consoles - and now there's a Switch version to consider. Tom stacks up the port to the Nintendo hybrid against the PS4 version and while the visuals hold up, performance simply isn't good enough.
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  • @izzieb
    @izzieb Год назад +654

    How they thought regularly dropping to 15-20fps was acceptable I don't know.

    • @trblemayker5157
      @trblemayker5157 Год назад +68

      Its fine for Soulsborne players. Have you seen the framerate of Bloodborne?

    • @jesser4221
      @jesser4221 Год назад +154

      @@trblemayker5157 Bloodborne has frame pacing issues not frame rate issue. The game is lock at 30fps. So your point is?

    • @Jericco8
      @Jericco8 Год назад +49

      @@trblemayker5157 Bloodborne's framerate is totally fine,the game has just weird frame pacing,just like Elden Ring on PS5,the game runs at 50-60fps but the weird frame pacing make's it look worse

    • @SicSemperBeats
      @SicSemperBeats Год назад +21

      @@jesser4221 The 30fps lock is an issue in itself. Its a souls game, i cant think of a single other non shooter/driving game where motion and timing is any more important. No excuses to be made for one of their most popular games.
      Whether its frame pacing or the actual frame rate, its genuinely difficult to go from souls on my pc (or demons souls/elden ring on ps5) to bloodborne and play at the same level instantly.

    • @480pixels
      @480pixels Год назад +55

      @@jesser4221 u guys r LYYIINNGGGG bloodborne has regular drops to 20 fps

  • @plume...
    @plume... Год назад +129

    Ported by Run Games and released 3 weeks ago. It took a month and a half for the original developers Cold Symmetry to update the PS5 enhanced edition to fix the fps. There is no mention on their socials of a patch or update and anyone that asks is met with silence. I reckon Run Games is one of those studios that ports games and moves on, not contracted to follow up with updates or patches (like the situation with Mass Effect Legendary Edition). Wouldn't surprise me if there was one small update with "Various performance fixes" that doesn't really do anything, and that's it. I'd love to be proven wrong though, this is merely conjecture.

    • @modermonkula
      @modermonkula Год назад +15

      Like how the GTA trilogy definition edition was handled

    • @jackbassindale4336
      @jackbassindale4336 Год назад +2

      I believe they released a patch on like day 2 or 3 that stabilised the framerate a little. Evidently not much but it at least made it playable

    • @benhillman8384
      @benhillman8384 Год назад +1

      Like Grip Digital - they spent about a year gaslighting their customers on reddit and discord over their pillars of eternity port before releasing a final patch that completely nuked the game with issues.

    • @plume...
      @plume... Год назад +8

      @@benhillman8384 Looking into it, they all have the same sort of websites too. "We provide support to studios..." and it seems when they port games that are poorly performing on release they just move on to the next project and provide a small patch. It seems the majority of the team are moved on and a couple of people are left to do a contractually obliged update. That is all they are paid for.
      GTA Definitive addition got so much flack for how shit it was, that Rockstar took it back from Grove Street to fix it. The same happened with the PC port of Horizon Zero Dawn who hired Virtuous to port the game and it was a mess so Guerilla took over. With the Mass Effect port Bioware did the same thing of hiring an external company to port the games (all they did was put textures through AI filters and change a few things in the coalesced.ini), and once that company was done they moved onto the next game. That is why you didn't see any updates for the framerate mess that game is.
      Bioware hired them to port the game, provide a day one patch and that is it! Sorry for the wall of text, but that is literally what is happening with these ports and it's sad :(

    • @Cogglesz
      @Cogglesz Год назад

      @@modermonkula I'm rather late to the discussion here. As a young teen who grew up with the original 3d triology, Would you say it's worth picking up now? Seriously i wasn't sure if the fixes where going to help with it being derived from a mobile port and moved over to UE4. I had tried it at launch but due to the Stutter struggles and really weird enviroment placing (floating grass, bugged water etc) I had to refund that PC version. I don't mind the art style too bad. Just darn i'd like it to feel somewhat original or enhanced from it. I'd love to hear from someone who's played it recently who can compare it to launch, Those GTA Channels talking about this are kinda' bias in their reporting i feel.

  • @billykotsos4642
    @billykotsos4642 Год назад +29

    Literallly within 15 secs of the vid you know this game is unplayable

  • @JebesNikove
    @JebesNikove Год назад +3

    Visually it looks OK for that shitty hardware, but the poor performance is just awful, save your money people !

  • @jeremyf1901
    @jeremyf1901 Год назад +184

    It’s crazy that games get released having frame drops down into the teens.

    • @IzzyMann
      @IzzyMann Год назад

      whats crazy about it? the hardware limitations or the limitations of the coders?

    • @alrightylol
      @alrightylol Год назад +9

      Srsly.. it happens over an over again and it looks "crazy" ? Its something usual for 2023.

    • @alext3811
      @alext3811 Год назад +2

      I mean this is by an indie developer, so they don't have the most resources or expertise. They did the best they could on the Switch.

    • @abdalla8558
      @abdalla8558 Год назад

      Witcher 3 was equally bad

    • @pennywisethedancingclown7139
      @pennywisethedancingclown7139 Год назад +15

      @IzzyMann The fact anyone even tried to do this on a switch and then charge money for it... It's literally a waste of time, money resources. It's nearly theft. The Switch is done. All these AAA games are simply cash grabs.

  • @Svante
    @Svante Год назад +3

    People on NintendoLife is actually defending this shitty port, calling it great, and don't notice the horrible framerate. 😂

  • @CaptainBlaine
    @CaptainBlaine Год назад +187

    Taking people back to the N64 days with that framerate

    • @DrMcMoist
      @DrMcMoist Год назад +17

      I used to play the Conkers Bad Fur Day multiplayer with my mates. It used to go down to about 10fps when a lot was happening onscreen.
      Still great fun though, not to mention laugh out loud funny.

    • @dashing_diamond
      @dashing_diamond Год назад +9

      Or PS3/XB360

    • @Armataan
      @Armataan Год назад +7

      @@DrMcMoist no game has ever performed so poorly while being so fun as the original starfox on SNES. 7fps while I’m telling my friends it is one of the best games I’ve ever played.

    • @DubElementMusic
      @DubElementMusic Год назад +1

      they should baöance the game again, playing this in ultra slow mo is much easyer 😅😇

    • @Chicky_Lumps
      @Chicky_Lumps Год назад +2

      The history of 3D games' framerate targets is definitely strange. Early on horribly inconsistent fps might have been seen as acceptable, but you also had many games targeting 60 fps on older systems.
      Then around 360/PS3 era it seems like AAA became synonymous with pushing the hardware until it barely kept 20 fps in some scenarios, although technically the games were "30 fps" at max.
      Around last gen is when the importance of *consistent* framerates was really acknowledged, but 30 fps became so standard that a lot of fast paced games, which may have targeted 60 fps two gens earlier, settled with 30.
      Last mid-gen was bizarre and misdirected because AAA corporations pushed the "4K" buzz really hard, when all but the slowest games would have benefitted far more from 60 fps.
      This generation is a relief, because it's finally being normalized to give console players options, and it seems like having a 60 fps preset is becoming a minimum standard. With fast paced games like shooters also venturing into 120 fps presets.
      For all the problems with AAA games themselves nowadays, performance control is in the best place it's ever been for consoles.

  • @harlekkindreitausend249
    @harlekkindreitausend249 Год назад +5

    I payed 3€ for this on switch and i want my money back

  • @dr.simonius609
    @dr.simonius609 Год назад +11

    Bruh its a slideshow

  • @churibman
    @churibman Год назад +52

    Man, poor Tom Morgan back at the Mortal Shell mines 😭

  • @SwitchUpYt
    @SwitchUpYt Год назад +8

    People moaned that 8/20 for visuals and performance was harsh lol

    • @benm1889
      @benm1889 Год назад

      Switch up knows best! Thanks for all your hard work Mark & Glen! 💪🏼

  • @vintatsh
    @vintatsh Год назад +43

    I really hope for decent backwards-comp on the next Switch akin to current-gen consoles.
    There are so many games now that could profit massively, especially the ones with an unlocked framerate and/or dynamic resolution.

    • @vanivan5202
      @vanivan5202 Год назад +1

      Highly unlikely, considering Nvidia hardware is going to be involved. And those guys don't really care about that.

    • @modermonkula
      @modermonkula Год назад +1

      DLSS 2.0 would work well on next fen Nintendo hardware

    • @vanivan5202
      @vanivan5202 Год назад +5

      @@modermonkula now look at the power consumption of DLSS and think again about it. DF have their own analysis regarding that on this channel.

    • @steveleadbeater8662
      @steveleadbeater8662 Год назад +3

      Nintendo? Backwards Compatibility? How would they sell you all their old games again? I've not seen anything to suggest their anti-consumerism has changed. I mean, I'll get a 'cease and desist' for just typing 'Nintendo'.

    • @SolidPython2099
      @SolidPython2099 Год назад

      @@steveleadbeater8662 are you dumb or something? Most of Nintendo consoles are backwards compatible with their previous iteration, you could play Game Boy and Game Boy Color on GBA, you could play Gamecube on Wii, you could play GBA on DS, you could play DS on 3DS, you could play Wii on Wii U etc

  • @halo3boy1
    @halo3boy1 Год назад +4

    Poor switch performance in 2023? Sounds about right.

  • @yoquese2.026
    @yoquese2.026 Год назад +3

    PS4: Mortal Shell
    Xbox One: Mortal Shell
    Pc: Mortal Shell
    Switch: : Mortal Shit

  • @SteamPunk96
    @SteamPunk96 Год назад +64

    Mortal Shell is actually an Axiom for Tom's ritualistic suffering that revolves entirely in and around the game itself.

  • @chrisbrown113096
    @chrisbrown113096 Год назад +5

    Damn Nintendo is really flexing their exclusivity. 15fps games.

  • @ctsperformance1755
    @ctsperformance1755 Год назад +6

    For games like this I have my Steam Deck, why even bother porting it now? Hardware is shit, I only use my Switch for Nintendo games now. Honestly screw Nintendo for not listening to their customers and still supporting this weak ass Hardware.

    • @TROBassGuitar
      @TROBassGuitar Год назад +3

      Can't really blame them when people are still buying

  • @ryanwaignwright6857
    @ryanwaignwright6857 Год назад +2

    Their not gonna improve the fps cause no one is gonna buy it and no one is gonna buy it because the fps is bad.

  • @Andeijogando
    @Andeijogando Год назад +5

    Mortal Shell Demake Edition

  • @livinlikeeli6785
    @livinlikeeli6785 Год назад +3

    11:42 HA! Almost 60 FPS, not even PS4 can do that! Switch > PS4 confirmed

  • @therealbluedragon
    @therealbluedragon Год назад +20

    Reminds me of Dark Souls on PS3, ahhh memories!

    • @SBandy
      @SBandy Год назад +9

      @enrique7934
      Been quite a few ports of games from PS3 era that run much better on Switch than PS3 so will call bollocks on that.

    • @zapallo566
      @zapallo566 Год назад

      @@SBandy are you brain smoth? Because the ps3 came in 2006 and switch 2017

    • @SBandy
      @SBandy Год назад

      @enrique7934
      Nowt to do with "me doing me".
      You are just categorically incorrect.

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. Год назад

      @Enrique We enjoy all consoles and handhelds. You do you and stick with your vanilla PS4 🥰

  • @rexthesheep
    @rexthesheep Год назад +3

    15-40fps, no screen tearing, 720p-ish resolution. This is Watch Dogs on Wii U.

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx Год назад +1

      Wait, Watch Dogs available on Wii U? Then it should be fine running on Switch but Ubisoft don't release it?

  • @HermannTheGreat
    @HermannTheGreat Год назад +5

    Putting out a slideshow game, they shouldn't have even bothered.

  • @leonkenedy4616
    @leonkenedy4616 Год назад +2

    Good to see N is plaing on strecht the Switch another decade xD

  • @madgebishop5409
    @madgebishop5409 Год назад +6

    i wonder how long before some of these developers just stop bothering with the Switch due to the terrible performance

  • @trochowski11
    @trochowski11 Год назад +2

    The existence of the steam deck makes these ports so much worse

  • @kotface3919
    @kotface3919 Год назад +11

    Keeping good graphics at the expense of the framerate is always the worst thing, a developer can do. They should screw down the graphics further!

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Год назад +2

      Did you not watch the video? The game is noticeably pared back from the *base PS4* version. There’s only so much they can do without completely destroying the visual identity of the game. Sounds like they were running up against the inherent CPU/memory bandwidth limitations of the Switch.

  • @ERREX
    @ERREX Год назад +7

    Flashbacks to blighttown on 7th gen consoles xD

  • @bluwolf9357
    @bluwolf9357 Год назад +40

    What an unnecessary port.

  • @youtindia
    @youtindia Год назад +4

    Steam deck makes all non-nintendo games redundant on Switch anyway. You can easily play this game at 30fps Medium settings on Steam Deck and get over 2 hours of battery life.

    • @retrogamer64007
      @retrogamer64007 Год назад

      I would rather play it on switch. It’s just a more slick console.

  • @reneaquarius
    @reneaquarius Год назад +11

    I've encountered a game breaking bug in the virtuous cycle mode: after paying for the dungeon with the fire boss and entering it, the game hard crashes. Did you also encounter this?

  • @gleam6370
    @gleam6370 Год назад +26

    Almost every switch port is riddled with issues… almost as if we need better hardware 😳

    • @parasolo89
      @parasolo89 Год назад +2

      Yes it's a very strange conundrum. 🤔

    • @Joseph-wh5of
      @Joseph-wh5of Год назад +9

      Mmm... If only Nintendo would actually release a more powerful switch instead of just an OLED screen.

    • @WalkerIGP
      @WalkerIGP Год назад +1

      I love the sarcasm displayed on here, top marks guys!

    • @ishaansaral502
      @ishaansaral502 Год назад +2

      @Joseph Nintendo fanboys will eat anything Nintendo releases. An overpriced underpowered POS? I'll take your entire stock. Overpriced ports of wii games? How generous. They get what they deserve. The Deck is just better in every way, but their OLED screen somehow fixes all the performance issues.

    • @WalkerIGP
      @WalkerIGP Год назад

      @@ishaansaral502 I mentioned the same on a different comment. People are paying a large amount of money for the experience, why should it be subpar?

  • @RainingFlow19
    @RainingFlow19 Год назад +10

    Tom actually went farther into the playthrough than most reviewers showing just up to 1st boss. I like that I mean if ur gonna review the details of the visuals and gameplay of the game u got to stress the later parts.

  • @J.A.Z-TheMortal
    @J.A.Z-TheMortal Год назад +8

    Daily reminder than Nintendo could have easily used the significantly more powerful Tegra X1+ or even the Tegra X2 SoC, but instead opted for the older/cheaper Gen 1. Also, Nintendo was very close to releasing the Switch with a miserable 2 GB of onboard RAM. Leaving only 1 GB available to developers. It wasn't until developers complained about this, that Nintendoa greed to increase to 4GB. Nintendo is right there with EA and Activision as the cheapest and most greedy companies in the industry.

    • @DDT-lr3zz
      @DDT-lr3zz Год назад +1

      Well devs have to choice between Tegra X2 with 2GBs of RAM or Tegra X1 with 4GBs of RAM.
      Devs got what they wanted, why didn´t complained to Nintendo with the CPU they went?.
      Consoles doesn´t need much RAM as PCs.
      As PC has to run a gargantuan program (Windows, MacOS, Linux, etc..) and then a game on top of it; not to mention background applications... the more installed, the more background data. As opposed to a dedicated gaming machine, RAM takes a back-bench to all processors, especially the CPU.

    • @nadirjofas3140
      @nadirjofas3140 Год назад

      @@DDT-lr3zz OS doesn't need that much

    • @DDT-lr3zz
      @DDT-lr3zz Год назад

      @@nadirjofas3140 Nope, look out for example Battlefield 3.
      On PC you need 2GBs of RAM with 512 MB Video Card while the Xbox 360 runs the same game with unified 512MB of RAM.
      CPU and GPU are far more important than RAM in a gaming console

    • @nadirjofas3140
      @nadirjofas3140 Год назад

      @@DDT-lr3zz settings and optimization

    • @nyesExpress
      @nyesExpress Год назад

      @@DDT-lr3zz They should've gotten Tegra X2 with 4 GB of RAM. Switch is the only console hardware of the big three that sells at a profit

  • @MetroidFREAK21
    @MetroidFREAK21 Год назад +12

    I hope the physical version will have any and all updates on card before it's released

  • @gaetanoisgro6710
    @gaetanoisgro6710 Год назад +3

    Developers figured out that on Switch games can be released unplayable and people will thank them, at most they will feel obliged to overclock the console to obtain acceptable performance.

  • @ToadyEN
    @ToadyEN Год назад +70

    All I can say is that I appreciate them making the game cartridge hold the game rather than it being a cloud only streamed game 🙏🏼

    • @chop46878
      @chop46878 Год назад +4

      to be fair tho once Witcher 3 was able to do a few years ago that it doesn’t surprise me as much

    • @borrellipatrick
      @borrellipatrick Год назад +12

      @@chop46878
      Nintendo has Switch cards available that go up to 64GB. Just that most publishers don't want to use anything bigger than an 8GB or 16GB card and it's frustrating

    • @6reen6uy
      @6reen6uy Год назад +1

      These guys are legit, just a small team

    • @ghost085
      @ghost085 Год назад

      @@borrellipatrick I guess they don't want the digital release of those same games to take too much storage space on users Switches.

    • @anasevi9456
      @anasevi9456 Год назад +3

      given what utter unplayable dogcr@p the game is, they should just never had made a port for the pathetic gutless wonder that is the switch in 2023... or since launch to be honest. The only visually nice 3d games that have any business on it are ones developed from the ground up for the wheezy old tegra maxwell.

  • @paracuja
    @paracuja Год назад +48

    The game testers were like: 15 fps, marvelous! More than we have ever expected 😍 gives that nice slow-motion laggy feel 🤩

    • @cybersosis
      @cybersosis Год назад +4

      lol what testers?

    • @SkewtLilbttm
      @SkewtLilbttm Год назад +1

      Ahh, it takes me back to the halcyon days, when pixels were nearly as big as the pockets on my Jnco Jeans

  • @Solidouz
    @Solidouz Год назад +3

    DF should do switch vs steam deck comparisons instead of ps4.

  • @serialtoon
    @serialtoon Год назад +3

    I dont even know why they even bother with the switch and these huge games anymore. The console is so dated at this point.

  • @paul1979uk2000
    @paul1979uk2000 Год назад +60

    Sometimes I have to wonder if it's even worth the developers making a port to the Switch when the cut backs are so big and the performance is so low.
    I can't imagine many gamers wanting to play that game in that state and it would be interesting to see how well the game performs on the Steam Deck being as it's a portable device.

    • @SweBeach2023
      @SweBeach2023 Год назад +6

      Yeah, the Switch is still a great console and with plenty of life left in it. But not for as heavy games as this one. Just make a clean break and accept from now one Switch will no longer be able to run the latest and greatest games. It doesn't mean it can't run hundreds of other awesome games, just look at most Nintendo first-party games.

    • @marcelosoares7148
      @marcelosoares7148 Год назад

      Yes, the switch has a massive userbase and there's people that only have it as a gaming device so it's probably pretty lucrative even if the game looks like crap in terms of visuals

    • @jebusnazareth1869
      @jebusnazareth1869 Год назад +20

      The switch has millions of users as a user base and the overwhelming majority of them don't even know Digital Foundry. This was a license to print money as Pokémon and other franchises that released substandard games on switch rarely feel the pinch of consumer dissent. They get what they deserve for buying into Nintendo's scam walled garden.

    • @modermonkula
      @modermonkula Год назад +5

      If i was an 8 year old kid i probably wouldn't care or notice about the low quality textures and frame rate.
      As a kid i play alot of command & conquer on N64 and that ran at 15 fps or less, didn't phase me i just thought that's how the game was.

    • @yancgc5098
      @yancgc5098 Год назад +17

      @@SweBeach2023 Even Nintendo first party games are starting to struggle on the Switch, so no, it doesn’t have plenty of life left in it. We need the Switch 2 this year.

  • @MrAmjak
    @MrAmjak Год назад +54

    Nintendo really needs to release a new console. it really is about time

    • @halahmilksheikh
      @halahmilksheikh Год назад +17

      Yeah this terrible performance is not "bespoke" or "ambitious", it's just sad.

    • @alexanderryufenando9711
      @alexanderryufenando9711 Год назад +2

      Its about power. We stay hungry, we devour

    • @WalkerIGP
      @WalkerIGP Год назад +6

      They really do. It is coming though, Nintendo releases a new console every 5 -7 years, Switch release was in March 2017. So we will hear about it this year or next.

    • @anasevi9456
      @anasevi9456 Год назад +3

      @@halahmilksheikh DigitalFoundry need to be called out, their standards for the Switch ports are downright sh!lling territory.

    • @supremekizzle
      @supremekizzle Год назад

      @@alexanderryufenando9711 Put in the work, put in the hours and take what's ours

  • @b01scout96
    @b01scout96 Год назад +3

    At some point Nintendo's interest in building low grade hardware has to stop in some way. These constant performance struggles in various games are a genuine scare for me, away from the Switch.

    • @Charles-hy6gp
      @Charles-hy6gp Год назад

      Well a very powerful console is expensive
      If someone makes an underpowered console, its because of the low price and to sell for profits

    • @b01scout96
      @b01scout96 Год назад

      @@Charles-hy6gp I agree, I don't like Nintendo's min-maxing with the Switch though. The tablet's specs were luke warm even in 2017.

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Год назад

      From a business perspective, why would they? They made a healthy profit on each Switch sold, while still being able to sell at a lower price than the competition, they're still making money hand-over-fist on first-party software and much of their audience seem oblivious to the technical issues as they only play a handful of first-party games. Nintendo is nothing if not shrewd business-wise - don't get me wrong, not condoning them using the weakest hardware they can (Capcom had to beg them to up the RAM to 4GB), just saying that knowing them they'll only upgrade to newer hardware when it's strictly necessary (eg. when sales of original Switch drop off a cliff)

  • @ryanwaignwright6857
    @ryanwaignwright6857 Год назад +4

    A lot of the “impressive” inclusions should not have been included. How they expected a game that only runs 900p on ps4 at 30fps to work is beyond me.

  • @Svante
    @Svante Год назад +3

    Getting flashbacks from the N64 era, with all the terrible framerates.
    Just because you CAN port a game to the Switch, if it won't be able to run smoothly, then what's the point?

  • @SicSemperBeats
    @SicSemperBeats Год назад +4

    Why the hell do they keep porting games that genuinely barely run on switch? Who the hell pays for that? 30fps already looks like dogshit, why release anything that averages in the teens??

    • @The_Ostrich
      @The_Ostrich Год назад +2

      You must be Gen Z. Here 🍼

    • @nocfox3050
      @nocfox3050 Год назад

      @SicSemperBeats
      Thinking of buying Mortal Shell mainly because it reminds me of Dark Souls on the 360..
      Blighttown 12 frames, honey

  • @uselence
    @uselence Год назад +2

    damn this game is so bad, but even so they thought someone would play this crap at 20 fps

  • @Daimomaru
    @Daimomaru Год назад +4

    They should revise artwork, textures, polycount and effects to cater the weaker hardware, not just try and brute force the game to run on the Switch. More people should learn from Playtonic for example, and how they ported Yooka Laylee to the Switch by revising art assets and modifying the game to run on it.
    At least this port tells us that Mortal Shell is possible, now revise the art style, effects and patch it. Easier said than done, I know.

  • @BitterLad
    @BitterLad Год назад +3

    I think you just saved me a lot of disappointment. I really appreciate this video, dude.

  • @xtherealhughesy
    @xtherealhughesy Год назад +6

    Such a shame that the frame rate is so shocking and also uncapped. Hopefully it can be improved as I’d love to play it on Switch but not in this state

  • @DJBV
    @DJBV Год назад +4

    Another day another game that proves we need a switch 2.0

    • @WERV2003
      @WERV2003 Год назад

      But we don't know how "powerful" it will really be, maybe the difference between Switch 2 and PS5 is the same as between Switch 1 and PS4 so the problem would remain the same.

    • @DJBV
      @DJBV Год назад

      @@WERV2003 if its at least on par with a base ps4 with some new features like nvidia dlss it would be enough

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy Год назад +3

    Poor performance on the switch? 🤔 now I’ve truly seen everything!

  • @flatnotes
    @flatnotes Год назад +2

    sorry but it just should not release in this state. If you own switch you can easily afford any semi modern graphics card or even ps4 or some clould gaming and have much better experience. It's not impressive. It's mind boggling that someone will pay for this

  • @HArryvajonas
    @HArryvajonas Год назад +17

    ''An ambitious Switch game'' is not a term of endearment in 2023.

  • @88oscuro
    @88oscuro Год назад +2

    Lower resolution than PS vita native resolution. And that was released 2011. Why even port these games to switch, game looks like shit and plays like crap.

  • @keijijohnson9754
    @keijijohnson9754 Год назад +15

    Wait when the heck did THIS come out on Switch?! I didn’t even know this was even a thing; it didn’t even get a trailer on Nintendo’s own RUclips channel!

    • @borrellipatrick
      @borrellipatrick Год назад +4

      Was featured on their Indie holiday special. Was 5 days of mini indie directs

  • @Aggnog
    @Aggnog Год назад +2

    This game is so old and wasn't even that popular, why did they even bother porting this?

    • @johnbishop2536
      @johnbishop2536 Год назад

      Tin foil hat mode lol. Since the game just returned to Gamepass after leaving a couple of months ago maybe there in with Microsoft as they did say they'd try to bring more games to Switch but can't outright state anything acquisition wise due to the ABK deal and the porting of this relatively unknown game was no skin off there back money wise.

  • @belgregor
    @belgregor Год назад +6

    Nintendo Seal Of Quality.

    • @nintendokolekcjoner239
      @nintendokolekcjoner239 Год назад +2

      It’s not a Nintendo game…

    • @belgregor
      @belgregor Год назад

      @@nintendokolekcjoner239 Gry pudełkowe, które posiadam mają znaczek mimo, że nie są to gry od ninny.

    • @nintendokolekcjoner239
      @nintendokolekcjoner239 Год назад

      @@belgregor zgadza się że mają ten znaczek gry pudełkowe 😅 ale na nes czy snes też miały, a trafiły i tam się crapy prawda ? 😉

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx Год назад +1

      @@nintendokolekcjoner239 all Nintendo Switch games have that stamp for whatever reason.

    • @nintendokolekcjoner239
      @nintendokolekcjoner239 Год назад

      @@bltzcstrnx I know. Standard procedure 😅

  • @kebm1388
    @kebm1388 Год назад +2

    Oh wow, a next gen game modified for hardware barely a step above the PS3 runs like a PS3 game? Color me surprised

  • @Adoooly1991
    @Adoooly1991 Год назад +3

    Kinda expected as the game still performs poorly on PS4

  • @KoolMB
    @KoolMB Год назад +2

    Don't know why anyone is surprised that third-party switch ports run like shit.. Hell, even their latest first party games run poorly. Sadly Nintendo won't do anything about it until people stop paying for mediocre performance!

  • @AkiKimurr
    @AkiKimurr Год назад +7

    Tom is having fun with mortal shell again! Yay!

  • @rometherevenant8749
    @rometherevenant8749 Год назад +2

    That poor Tegra X1 hanging on to dear life..

    • @dariosandoval3608
      @dariosandoval3608 Год назад

      Well its Nintendo, they are creating weak consoles since the Wii
      Even thought it sold better than PS3 and 360, it had shorter lifespan than both consoles

    • @xXSonTJXx-x
      @xXSonTJXx-x Год назад

      That Nintendo for ya buddy all they care is about money

  • @pronstorestiffi
    @pronstorestiffi Год назад +3

    The people who finish this game on Switch are the true elite. FromSoft stans has nothing on you.

  • @sambagogo777
    @sambagogo777 Год назад +2

    Who even cares how it compares to the PS4 version. Surely a more relevant and interesting comparison would be the game running on Steam Deck.

    • @retrogamer64007
      @retrogamer64007 Год назад

      No because deck uses newer hardware, switch uses hardware from 2015

  • @artemkanaki9274
    @artemkanaki9274 Год назад +22

    that’s why I’ve been using Steam Deck as a main console since I’ve got it. I really like portable consoles, and deck checks all marks for me

    • @artemkanaki9274
      @artemkanaki9274 Год назад +11

      @@mikeuk666 sure, when you play AAA it doesn’t last long. But I rather carry power bank with me then tolerate 15-20 fps

    • @crisbuenaventura6566
      @crisbuenaventura6566 Год назад

      You forgot to bring also 1M Mah of power bank 1hour for playing then 2-3 hours for charging

    • @edster1801
      @edster1801 Год назад

      ​@@crisbuenaventura6566 lmao someone doesn't have a deck I see

    • @edster1801
      @edster1801 Год назад

      Haven't even used my steam deck since the day I got the steam deck, better overall

    • @crisbuenaventura6566
      @crisbuenaventura6566 Год назад

      @@edster1801 Yeah because i have my gaming PC for indoor While switch is for my outdoor

  • @KosOrSomeSayKosmo
    @KosOrSomeSayKosmo Год назад +2

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

  • @driftyprince
    @driftyprince Год назад +3

    this hot garbage cost's $30 lol

  • @tokyobassist
    @tokyobassist Год назад +2

    Frames Per Shell
    At this point, devs and pubs are just throwing stuff MVP (minimum viable product) at the Switch. "Does it turn on? Good...ship it."

  • @dallacosta2868
    @dallacosta2868 Год назад +7

    The time of impossible ports is long gone.

    • @cosmosofinfinity
      @cosmosofinfinity Год назад +2

      You could port Cyberpunk 2077 to Switch, if you're fine with 1 polygon at 1 fps. Technically possible! But just because we can, doesn't mean we should

  • @crispybottom
    @crispybottom Год назад +2

    Borderlands 2 on the Vita levels of performance lmao. At least that one ran at native res, the Switch can’t even do that

  • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
    @Youtube-Censorship-Police Год назад +4

    awesome job with the framerate, i got real xb360/ps3 ds1 vibes, very atmospheric and cinematic!

  • @Lionlovesunity
    @Lionlovesunity Год назад +2

    Man Nintendo needs to get it together. Zelda will get wrecked this year I fear due to the switch. They need a pro. 25fps won’t cut it in 2023

    • @Lionlovesunity
      @Lionlovesunity Год назад

      @@mikeuk666 I know. I’m just saying the switch is trash when compared in Power to Xbox and ps5. They need to upgrade.

  • @ArthurDraco
    @ArthurDraco Год назад +3

    Why. Can't. You. Admit. That. The Switch. Is a. Weak. Console? Even Nintendo admitted that when they announced the Switch Cloud.

  • @DubElementMusic
    @DubElementMusic Год назад +1

    isnt the game easyer in in slow-mo on the switch? they should do a balance patch 😅

  • @jebusnazareth1869
    @jebusnazareth1869 Год назад +3

    Meanwhile the deck runs it at 60fps...

    • @livinlikeeli6785
      @livinlikeeli6785 Год назад

      11:42 so does the SWITCHH!!!!!

    • @jebusnazareth1869
      @jebusnazareth1869 Год назад

      @@livinlikeeli6785 Hahahahahaha, I too like to play sections consisting exclusively of looking at fog... LOLOL

  • @kapt980
    @kapt980 Год назад +2

    Resolution is so low the almost "2D blockiness" apparence of a few textures could be a pass for a pixel art artistic approach somehow.

  • @gianlucag6976
    @gianlucag6976 Год назад +53

    I would be interested to see how the game performs on a overclocked Switch. Please, do it.

    • @simonrockstream
      @simonrockstream Год назад +10

      pointless, why.

    • @kigasdj2
      @kigasdj2 Год назад +10

      It would perform like crap. Switch is dead, it has no headroom, need switch 2 ASAP

    • @melu0o
      @melu0o Год назад +1

      @@kigasdj2yup

  • @cronoesify
    @cronoesify Год назад +2

    Yeah this is about what I expected from a PS3 Pro.

  • @219SilverChoc
    @219SilverChoc Год назад +3

    I’m surprised it’s even running on Switch considering how low resolution it is on last gen consoles and how brutal it is on budget PCs.

  • @GameNest
    @GameNest Год назад +1

    Why bother releasing the game in such a despicable state? It's simply unplayable right now.

  • @SBandy
    @SBandy Год назад +3

    It seems Nintendo demands games are fully v-synced on their platforms because I can't recall any games on Switch, Wii U, Wii etc that have screen tearing.
    And personally I would take a hit to the FPS to avoid screen tearing which I despise.

    • @christianr.5868
      @christianr.5868 Год назад +2

      I'd take tearing over framerate drops any day personally. As long as they're kept to the edges of the screen

    • @SBandy
      @SBandy Год назад

      Fair enough, different strokes and all that.

  • @SOTVT
    @SOTVT Год назад +1

    Are there really people out there who waste money on those abysmal switch-ports? 🤣

  • @DogginsFroggins
    @DogginsFroggins Год назад +2

    Luckily the game is almost free in some parts of the world, its less than 1$ where I'm at when looking at currency translations (R18, South Africa), so even if it sucks, I'll get it and enjoy it on Switch 2.

    • @miguelangelramos7709
      @miguelangelramos7709 Год назад

      Yes Sir just buyed it today 2.99 in us

    • @alirezagerami1215
      @alirezagerami1215 Год назад

      ​@miguelangelramos7709 how is the fream rate?dose it receive any patches to improve fps?after this video

  • @nightowl3582
    @nightowl3582 Год назад +1

    It's time for new Nintendo hardware, bro.

    • @WERV2003
      @WERV2003 Год назад

      But we don't know how "powerful" it will really be, maybe the difference between Switch 2 and PS5 is the same as between Switch 1 and PS4 so the problem would remain the same.

  • @jrelwaldo
    @jrelwaldo Год назад +7

    Oook...
    It is time to bring a real new hardware! It isn't Nintendo?

    • @The_Ostrich
      @The_Ostrich Год назад +1

      @enrique7934
      The Switch is already several times more powerful than a PS3 kid, but the real question is when will you get a brain that is as strong as a calculator.

    • @WalkerIGP
      @WalkerIGP Год назад

      @@The_Ostrich The Switch is more powerful than an PS3, but not by several times. I should know since I bought two of them: the launch and the V2. PS3 ports run very well, but anything higher it struggles. This is why ports like Witcher 3 were massively downgraded and others got the cloud treatment. If Switch were several times powerful it would handles these in full, no problem. Want a device that ACTUALLY is several times more powerful than PS3? Get a Steam Deck.

    • @WERV2003
      @WERV2003 Год назад +1

      But we don't know how "powerful" it will really be, maybe the difference between Switch 2 and PS5 is the same as between Switch 1 and PS4 so the problem would remain the same.
      So lol

    • @WalkerIGP
      @WalkerIGP Год назад

      @@WERV2003 Indeed, we have no idea how much power a Switch 2 will have. If Nintendo are smart though, it will be at the level of at least a PS4. So, Steam Deck basically or better. We can't expect them to actually do a PS5/Series X level console, they don't care about competing with them.

    • @The_Ostrich
      @The_Ostrich Год назад +1

      @@WalkerIGP
      Thats not how compute power is measured, son. The Switch has twice the gflops, 8× more RAM and a decade newer CPU and GPU that are a lot easier to use than the abysmal cell processor found in the PS3 that bottlenecked the system. So yes, the Switch is several times more powerful.

  • @RiasatSalminSami
    @RiasatSalminSami Год назад +1

    Unless they recreate the assets with older rendering methods, it's not really a good idea to port to switch. But I guess that's too much time and money for devs, but where have the standards gone? These ports are waste of time and shouldn't be done.

  • @louis1443
    @louis1443 Год назад +3

    This game runs like shit

  • @mikeluttor
    @mikeluttor Год назад +1

    No More Heroes 3 - PC,Xbox and Playstation ports Puh-leaaaaase.
    Thank you :)

  • @Ohem1
    @Ohem1 Год назад +3

    Should've let Panic Button do the port.

  • @paulerxx
    @paulerxx Год назад +3

    The game looks great if they can iron out the performance.

  • @NhanADL
    @NhanADL Год назад +1

    i feel like playing a "slowmotion game" of 2002 in the year of 2023...lol...they should stop porting a modern game to Switch because it's a crappy damm old system. Even Nier Automata is an decent port, I still think playing 30fps action RPG games in 2023 is ''unacceptable".

  • @mitchboland9591
    @mitchboland9591 Год назад +10

    Really enjoyed this on pc. Sad to see the game struggle here.

  • @talkadelics
    @talkadelics Год назад +2

    They couldve killed the graphics and made it run good.
    Especially in unreal.
    We need an android game developing and editing editor's editor engine

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Год назад +1

      I mean, they pretty much did, including ripping a bunch of geometry out in certain scenes. I think they gutted it as much as they could without destroying the visual identity of the game. I'm not sure this game should have been ported in the first place/perhaps they should have made a version specifically made with the Switch hardware in mind.

  • @BVargas78
    @BVargas78 Год назад +3

    15fps just ain't good enough. It's not a bad game though.

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Год назад +1

      We tolerated that back in the N64/PS1 era in certain circumstances, Ocarina of time was capped at 20 FPS, but yes, that is unacceptable in 2023, particularly for a game/genre that demands precise input timing.

  • @arjun220
    @arjun220 Год назад +1

    Dark souls 2 maybe could run better on switch since dark souls 1 is kinda running okay on switch.

  • @bulletpunch9317
    @bulletpunch9317 Год назад +24

    Cant expect everyone to put in the effort for this phone chip.

    • @Bombastic_daioh
      @Bombastic_daioh Год назад

      You really believe this crap? Switch's chip is amazing and wayy more powerful than both the ps3 and 4

    • @The_Ostrich
      @The_Ostrich Год назад +20

      Its not even a phone chip, it appeared first in the Nvidia Shield tablet. Get your facts straight, kid.

    • @niks660097
      @niks660097 Год назад +19

      @@Bombastic_daioh lol, how high are you!?

    • @bulletpunch9317
      @bulletpunch9317 Год назад +10

      @@The_Ostrich youre right gramps, its much weaker than a phone chip.

    • @niks660097
      @niks660097 Год назад +15

      @@The_Ostrich 2015 tablet, which has even lower performance than today's 200$ phones with lowest end mediatek chip ..

  • @mattg8888
    @mattg8888 Год назад +1

    How can you charge money for a game that doesn't run at 30fps or above? It is beyond me. I mean tiny drops could be bearable, but 10fps on Switch? Even at 25Eur, it is just not acceptable.

  • @herohunter81
    @herohunter81 Год назад +3

    Remember when people were impressed that games like these could be played on the Switch? Not so much anymore. It’s time for that Switch 2.

  • @carlosnascimento9269
    @carlosnascimento9269 Год назад +1

    How is this considered acceptable to be sold? Jesus...
    I didn't realize just how much of a Dark Souls ripoff this is, even down to the UI. Holy shit.