Joey And Pacey Come Clean To Dawson About Their Feelings! | Dawson's Creek
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2020
- It's time for Joey and Pacey to come clean about their feelings and relationship to Dawson, but it won't be easy!
From Season 3 Episode 20, 'The Longest Day'. The same story repeats three times, from different perspectives. Joey (Katie Holmes) and Pacey (Joshua Jackson) work out how to tell Dawson (James Van Der Beek) about their feelings for each other. Dawson's reaction is not what they'd hoped for.
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Confronting issues of mortality, infidelity, homosexuality and betrayal, DAWSON'S CREEK presents the poignant stories of teenagers growing up in a rapidly changing world as it follows the relationships of a tight-knit group of friends in a small Massachusetts town to college in Boston and beyond.
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Pacey was the emotionally mature, understanding and patient one. Dawson was selfish, insecure and an emotional wreck. Said what I said.
but that 100 percent not true, why dawson did throw a fit, after finding out his best freind LIED to him.
pacey was the same one that told joey i not staying here if you pick dawson, when they broke up i cant be your freind, was jealous all the time when they were dating. throw a fit anytime he did not get his way, broke up with joey in the worse way possible
why dawson risk his life for pacey, was man enough to tell pacey he like his siter before anything happen, and pacey first tried to tell him NO, then talk mad shit about dawson to his sister, then tried to set her up with her cheating ex, then dawson had to pay and push joey for college, why pacey got drunk and got into fight,
THEN when pacey broke up with joey in the worst way possible, left and would no one know if he was alive or dead for mouths.
dawson after dealing with gratchin breaking up with him, brooks DEAD, still help joey did his best to make her feel better AND then once again prove what a good man he was when she ASK him to stay, he could have gotten back into a relationships with her BUT said no give her the summer and more to heal, and she had to ask him to date.
so pacey was never emotionally mature, or he was a little bit patient at time. and then wanted to drink and start fight.
dawson was never selfish, was never insecure, and out side of this one fight, or a emotional wreck,
Everything you said is the exact reason why I don’t understand why people love Pacey and Joey so much. It boggles my mind.
i know they over look everything bad pacey did. they say dawson only like joey after the pageant witch is not true.
but over look pacey spying on joey changing and then asking her out.
I agree with everything you said. For people who say this relationship was “pure” Are you kidding? The start of the relationship was built on lies and deceit. The relationship was completely forced. I will agree in the first and second season Dawson was a tad bit immature. But he was a kid/dreamer that’s all he knew. But for me he was the one that matured the most through the series. Even he told Joey it’s time to move on and get out of this room. There’s so many reason why Pacey and Joey didn’t work. For starters Joey was clearly in love with Dawson. It was so obvious throughout season 4. Why is she upset about Dawson and Gretchen? If she was so content with Pacey. Answer. She wasn’t, she was in love with Dawson. First person she wanted to see when they got back was Dawson. First person she kissed 20mins after Her and Pacey broke up....DAWSON! And Pacey became so insecure in season 4 because of that relationship. They’re relationship has it’s cute moments but it was destined for failure because it wasn’t True Love. Dawson gave up everything for Joey. Sacrificed his love, gave her his money, dropped out of school to be with her. I can go on and on. Pacey didn’t even want her to go to school. Just writing this makes me more confused as to why the writers and people wanted Pacey and Joey. It was always Dawson!
here one, people BASH dawson for asking one time if she sleep with pacey,
but leave out everyone ask her.
but also joey ask dawson SIX time about his sex life, when JEN, with EVE, when he went to the nightclub with jen ex, she broke into his bedroom to ask him the second he walk into the door. and then ask him Two time about grachin.
she never once ask pacey even when they broke up.
ps if pacey was jealous before how he going to deal with dawson being a big director why he run the ice house, you know the same place joey sister ran and she acted like she was dirt about it.
This was one of the shows that taught me the difference between a "Nice Guy" and a Good Man.
no it did not, becouse, both were not nice guys, both were boys growing up to be good men.
both made huge mistakes.
Who’s the good man
i was saying there both grow up to be good men.
@@az21bob666 you are not the arbiter of Ms, Kpat's life lessons. You are the holder of opinions.
How was Dawson a "good man?"
Dawson acted like they'd cheated...he was so weirdly possessive of Joey. I never sensed any romantic chemistry between them, compared to Joey and Pacey.
I think he just always thought he was better than Pacey and never thought he'd lose his ex against to his best friend out of all people. Him and Joey have been broken up but I think bc him and Joey had so much history he didn't think the other guys would ever compare to him and that Joey would eventually always run back to him bc of their history and how close they are but Pacey was the one guy he truly felt threatened by bc he shares the same amount of history with Joey as Dawson did since he's been around just as long and the fact that they use to "hate" each other to now fallen in love makes Dawson question how that could of happened and now he feels like he lost his place in both of their lives and felt defeated by Pacey in some way. It was clear that Dawson was still in love with Joey and knew that if Pacey won her heart that it was officially game over.
@Miss Manawaka there is still a difference between a person at sixteen and a toxic one. you can be heartbroken, but he claimed joeys feelings "do you feel the same way about me", no dude, come on. she couldn't make her decision without his approval and since he saw she was way happier with pacey, he couldn't give it to her. he wants joey, when he can't have her and even in their friendship he treats her horribly. i agree that the "all or nothing" vibe is very teenager, but its not really reflective. he takes her love for granted and when it changes, he gets angry. that has nothing to do with 16, its possessiv and that makes him toxic.
@Miss Manawaka i tend to have the reaction like the initial comment above, or boy was dawson a dick... but i agree with you. those points are very valid. especially about how immature and green kin life we are at 16...!
@@not-a-ghost2206 shut up with this toxic bullshit already. Learned a new word yeah?
He didn't want her until someone else did. That's not love.
What's so funny is Dawson didn't want Joey 😂😂😂 he just didn't want nobody else to have her💀
That not true
Bingo
That's inaccurate. You clearly never watched this show.
@@echoerains9075 lol please elaborate YOUR POV then. We'll wait.
Or maybe he just didn’t want her with his BEST FRIEND 😂
Ok am I the only one who thought that joey was the main person in this show not Dawson
Yeah she was the only one in every episode. She was the best character on that show and its always on her wants and needs.
@@ahceda09 yes she was the best character
No I'm sure everyone started to realize that during this show
It should have been joeys creek honestly
she was. look back at the old WB promo commercials they used to showcase the network, Joey was front and center - more than anyone else from any other show
I think the problem was that dawson always thought he was better than pacey. He had an idea that pacey was his charity work. Remember his birthday when he was drunk and started telling he missed pacey being the screw up só he could look better. Dawson was very toxic and thought the world revolved around him
Just this clip he telling pacey he didn't have anybody with, thinking he was the one who called the shots with his friends
called Dawson's Creek for a reason - As you said Dawson feels like the world revolves around him and like it’s his Creek
yea and pacey said the only reason he play sport with him is to feel better and like telling every dawson a virgin all the time.
i mean if my best freind dated the women i love without telling me i would be hurt to.
@@az21bob666 you can be hurt without being toxic and Dawson was toxic and controlling. Pacey wasn’t perfect, none of them are but Dawson has a lot more issues than the rest.
you right you can be hurt with being toxic, BUT dawson was not toxic or controlling,
Pacey had FAR FAR more toxic then dawson.
let go over, who grab joey ARM by force and drag her from a party, that was pacey,
who was allwasy jealous, that was pacey,
who was getting drunk and starting fight, that was pacey,
who made joey feel she cant tell good new to becouse it make then feel bad, that was pacey.
and who broke up with joey in the worse way, that again was pacey.
so sorry pacey was far FAR more toxic.
what really dawson really do, after finding out his best freind dated the women he loved in secret he was mad, that it, he told joey if she date pacey, he not going to be there when it fall apart, all that mean is he will not date her if she pick pacey, that it. that all he did.
pacey was far worse. i not sure how people cant see that.
@@az21bob666 eww no. Dawson was jealous, controlling and didn’t respect joeys right to make decisions. Paceys insecurities come from a broken family, still he grew to become faithful, loyal, and supportive. Dawson threw Joey away like trash and didn’t even think of her again until he found out Joey and pacey were together. Then he wanted to stake his claim. If he were such a good person he would have never manipulated Joey into choosing. Joey clearly wanted to be with pacey and told Dawson as much, but since he was her friend she wanted his blessing and didn’t want to cut ties with Dawson and his family. While pacey didn’t always have the best behavior, neither did Joey and certainly neither did Dawson. He was the worse character on the show by far. I’m glad many people see that.
i started watching it few days ago, here i am spoiling it for myself
literally me oof
same
Lol
I'm saw this when I was on s1
And it kinda spoiled it
Say what you want about the show but this is some damn fine acting. That young cast sold the hell out of those story lines and are what made the show so watchable for all those years.
I’m a lil embarrassed watching Dawson & Joey argue in that last part 🙈 their acting made me feel like I was watching a real (and personal) argument in front of my eyes. Chills 😰
I 100% This episode when it was back and forth between pacey trying to tell Dawson and Joey trying to stop him was so stressful for me.
Omg yes!!! That's what got me hooked. Never watched its initial release because I thought it was corny but as an adult I started watching it on Netflix and it's too good.
Yeah it’s so refreshing being able to enjoy a show I loved when I was a kid, as an adult too. This was my favorite back when new episodes were still airing.
That’s a fact Jack
Dawson's reaction makes us adore Pacey more.
Yeah pretty much. This scene made me hate Dawson it solidified everything.
Us is too many people. I’m
Still team Dawson.
@@Nazaba09 I actually didn't watch the show. I've only watched some clips and I think Pacey and Joey are meant for each other. If I watch the full show, I might understand Dawson more. I thought there was only Team Pacey.😆
Dawson were so boring... 🙄
@@chipmunkdambi hahaha it's like 80/20 team Pacey/team Dawson but there are some die hard Dawson fans !!
omg i just realised pacey and Joey held hands the whole time dawson yeld. They're so cuteeee
I just noticed this too! In the shot of them right before Andie starts speaking. Thought that was so cute!
Yes !!!! 😂😂😂😂
Pacey taking a stand. My woman 🤝
Dawson just wants Joey when he can’t have her, he likes the Hunt a lot more.
That is not true. Dawson was healing after what Joey did to him.
That's actually the other way around my friend.
💯 That man is not healing from nothing. He’s just a melodramatic dude who doesn’t know how to let things go and thinks he’s the center of the universe. There’s really no reason for him to be legitimately angry. They have been over for a long time and he has pursued other flings same as her. He just doesn’t want Pacey to have her because he feels like she belongs to him.
@@9525joe exactly he literally thinks joey is her possession or something
YES and the fact that back in season 2 (I think) Dawson was trying to get Jen back then there's this episode where pacey shows interest in Joey for the first time, tells Dawson and was only after this that he would look Joey with other eyes
I didn't realize how emotionally manipulative he was. He always thought he was better than Pacey or that Joey couldn't do better in life than him so she always be grateful for any attention he gave her. He loved being the center of thier universe more than he actually loved them or thier friendship.
true point... Dawson had major pride...he was probably a littleee jealous of them.
he never thought he was the center of her universe, and he loved her you just projecting becouse you like pacey.
@@az21bob666 the "he loved being the center of thier universe" comment was in reference to both of them. I didn't think this the first couple of times I watched the show but now as an adult and look back on it I see it. An example of what made me change my mind was how he acted once he realize Joey and Pacey were becoming friends separate from thier friendships with him. Even though the only reason Pacey hung with Joey separate from Dawson was because Dawson asked him to.
Dawson is not the only character that now as an adult I see differently
go back and watch dawson defend pacey to joey, and was happy they weree being freind.
remember when joey found out that pacey was ask to be there for her, and joey was mad and dawson SAID how can you not thing he cares about her.
In my opinion, Dawson wasn't as bad as many make him out to be. Joey was the one that strung him into a relationship in the first place and then proceeded to break up with him twice for the dumbest reasons when he did nothing wrong. The girl literally turned him into a wreck. Joey was the bad guy in this whole thing. Dawson wasn't always perfect, but he is far from the reason things didn't work out between him and Joey. Then Pacey proceeded to break bro code to make things worse. Dawson deserved better quite honestly.
Dawson was being ridiculous he’s actually one of the worst characters on the show in my opinion. He didn’t treat Joey right and he was possessive of her
And in what way did Dawson not treat Joey right?
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes he treated her right when they were together but after he moved on and had another girlfriend he still was so mad about Pacey and joey. He was possessive and over reacted BIG time
@@isobelyoung7636 When and how did Dawson do any of that?
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes he did it all the way through he would want her but she was happy and he would try and make her choose like between Pacey and himself and then when she actually wanted him he was with Jen and other girls so he chose her when he felt like it
@@isobelyoung7636 When did Dawson choose Jen when Joey wanted him? Apart from season 1, Dawson did not want Jen when Joey wanted him. And that too, Dawson was unaware of Joey's feeling for him in season 1. There is nothing wrong in Dawson telling Joey to choose between him and Pacey because that would have made it clear who Dawson was to Joey. And this was at a time when Dawson had just healed from what Joey did to him at the end of season 2 and was ready to get back with Joey. After all, Joey was Dawson's soulmate.
For people saying it was ok for Dawson to react that way: he trapped Joey like she was a doll he could control. Held their life long friendship and the only constant family she's ever known ( since both her parents are gone)over her head and tried to force her to get back with him. Remember he pretended to organise the prom for Jack but really it was to manipulate Joey. He nearly killed Pacey in a boat race. He only put the blame on Pacey , acting like Joey was a toy he stole. Gave Joey no free will . Then in the end he says he's going to "free her" and she should "leave before I change my mind"! Like wtf how cruel and toxic can you be. I hate that he controls her and gives her no free will. No women should ever be with a man like that. I understand he could been sad, upset , angry all that but if the women you love has to break down crying in your arms for you to decide to let her be happy, you never loved her at all.
she played with his feeling and all he said was I not going to be there if it does not work, THE same think pacey told her when he broke up with her, he also told her to go after the man she loved,
so yea you only saying what dawson did wrong, not what pacey or joey did wrong.
@@az21bob666 I said for the comments saying Dawsonnws in the right when in my opinion he wasn't. This comment was not about Pacey or Joey. Also come on it was way different ! He told her they don't have a friendship anymore and he stop their friendship if she dated Pacey! In S3 finale she tells dawson that if she thought there was even a slight chance he would let them still be friends she would have picked Pacey. He only let her go because she was miserable and he had no choice. Like at there parents wedding rehearsal, he blames her for not looking happy !? Also Pacey never said he wouldn't be there for her , he said he wanted to break up and they needed some time apart. The episode after the breakup they have another talk and he apologized for everything, she even slept over at his so clearly they still had a friendship. Dawson never ever apologized for what he did!
But he did apoliogized and told her to go to pacey.
my point was they both said close to the same thing but you only blame dawson not pacey,
@@az21bob666 he didn't apologize, he never said sorry , he set her "free" coz she knew he was miserable staying with him. What did Pacey say?
he said go to him, i want you to be happy. so yes just becouse he did not say the word apologize does not mean he did not apologize.
Show should have been called Joey’s creek or Pacey’s creek....definitely not Dawson’s creek
Thank you!!!
Yes, or "Stupid Pacey and Joey storyline' creek"
It’s that everything happens on his creek that’s why 😂
Nah it's fine the way it is mate. Fuck outta here.
@@clauderain312 preach.
why does he genuinely think the world revolves around him and he’s so much better than everyone else
Because that's teenagers for you lol
cuz the title of the series said so
I know. I mean Dawson had some good moments where he was a good friend but majority of the time he was an entitled, self centered, whiny, spoiled brat. I understand as to why he was upset with Joey and Pacey but at the same time Joey broke it off with him and she tried to get back together with him when she saw him with another girl. He told her no and that they needed time apart, which I didn't blame him bc Joey did break his heart but at the same time he let her go and even encouraged Pacey to look out for her which brought them both closer and fell in love. Dawson had no problem seeing Joey with other guys, bc he knew he had the upper hand over them bc of his friendship/relationship history he had with Joey. He didn't think no other guy could compete with that, but it was obvious he was very threatened by Pacey. It's like he didn't want Joey anymore since he refused to take her back but he didn't want Pacey to have her either. He felt threatened by him bc Pacey shares alot of history with Joey too and he was afraid what they have could be real and he might lose anymore chances with Joey for good.
Because he is an only child until the end of this. My son is an only child and he thinks the world revolves around him also.
It pretty much does
@@georgehernandez2156 when I was a teenager I minded my own business and enjoyed life. I didn’t live in some fantasy like Dawson lmao
Dang Andie walks up like “hi!” just to be bamboozled and have Dawson spill the tea via yelling at her 😂
I’m like girl~~~ u can tell from couple of feet away that u DONT wanna get into that right now 😏😒😒
This clip is one example of how both Dawson and Joey always tried to force romantic love into their friendship and it backfires every time. It’s Dawson’s turn here to behave as he owns Joey and he holds their friendship hostage. In the second season Joey breaks things off with Dawson to find herself because they were so young and being in a relationship with her best friend she’d known for so long was suffocating. Pacey and Joey falling for each other in season three was the perfect example of how love works. It just happened and they couldn’t get rid of it.
Only they were still expecting Dawson to be behind them and help them sort out their relationship problems. They were bad for each other. This is the perfect example of relationship immature people think is love.
@@mightybitchyThey expected Dawson to be their friend and to be there for them. Yes, they were wrong in how they hid their feelings for each other from Dawson but they were scared they’d loose his friendship. Pacey and Joey were friends who became closer and developed feelings for each other,to me, the immature thing would have been if they’d stayed away from each other and miserable under Dawson’s controlling behavior. Dawson claimed to have some kind of romantic hold on Joey even though they weren’t boyfriend/girlfriend and to me, that’s toxic and immature.This is how they wrote it, not an attack on Dawson’s character from my perspective. Also, teenagers are immature and this show is about growing up. When Pacey and Joey understood that their romantic relationship was not making them both happy they broke things off and remained friends, never once laying claim to each other romantically when they weren’t together until they rediscovered their feelings for each other. They supported each other when they were boyfriend and girlfriend and when they were just friends. Dawson and Joey fought continuously over why they never could work out as a couple. If they truly loved each other romantically they would have been able to sustain a romantic relationship. Instead, they constantly put their friendship through hell. The writers could have written it differently and Dawson and sometimes Joey, would have been more likable as characters. They should have made the choice to have them be a couple or remain friends and left it alone instead of dragging it.
why dawson did say something wrong he told her to go to pacey and was her best friend after that doing everything to help her form paying for her college to being there for her, when pacey broke up with her dawson was there for her, and then went to a different state, He did not try to hit on her
after pacey broke up with her, he was JUST her friend and even after pacey sister just left him when they had plans to leave together he was STILL there for joey.
One of the overlooked details of season 3 that adds to its greatness is that American Eagle provided all the outfits for the main cast. It's one of the only seasons of a teen drama ever where the cast all dressed exactly like real people their age. My friends and I all had the same clothes the cast wore.
I always wondered why dawson dressed like a nerd in the 90s. Something i would see others wear. Sketchers and like the long 90s jeans. The striped sweaters. It all makes sense. Pacey with the hawaiian button shirts and the cargo shorts. They dress like ppl in a small town who shop in department stores.
They looked way better when they wore J.Crew clothes in Season 1 and 2. J.Crew >>> AE. That's not even debatable.
That's cause the characters aren't rich and fashionable like in Gossip Girl, The OC and PLL
Joey & Pacey were so much better for eachother! Dawson was being a whiny baby, only wanting Joey when he couldn't have her.
I don't think you watched the show. If you did you wouldn't have made that statement about dawson wanting joey when he couldn't have her. WTF 🤯
He acts irrationally and emotionally at first, and who wouldn't at 16 learning that the girl that you have loved for so long had been with your best friend? It's OK, it's adolescent, it makes sense. And in the end he wisens up and lets her go, he realises that if he truly loves Joey and really wants the best for her, he has to let her go, and guess what, he does it. He ends up totally broken at the end of Season 3 but he does it anyway because it was the right thing to do. It's a breaking point in his growing up process. Season 4 Dawson after those events is a much more mature character.
Um Joey was actually a shit girlfriend to Dawson but ok.
Yass
You must be living in an alternate universe, because Joey was the one who kept fucking everything up with him. And Pacey was just a huge loser. Man, I felt sorry for him with the crap his father pulled on him. But he really was a moron.
The acting in the last scene was phenomenal
Okay even though I cannot stand Dawson
James Van Der Beek nailed this scene
To this day, I am so happy the show went with Joey/Pacey as endgame. It just made sense and their relationship was one of the best things about this show.
The best friends to lovers trope doesn't always work out....Dawson/Joey was simply meant to be bestfriends
We would still be rioting if they did go with the Joey & Dawson endgame plan 😂😂😂
No and it did not make sense at all
Guessing you never read the writers POV...
I still understand why Dawson was upset, his best friend fell in love with his ex girlfriend who he still had feelings for but then again he did blow it when he let her go and he did tell Pacey to look out for her which was hypocritical on his part.
becosue joey broke dawson heart,
and pacey the next year did the same thing by breaking up with joey and then leaveing the state and then asking dawson to be there for her.
@@az21bob666 He had every reason to be upset, but it wasn’t like they were trying to hurt him. The Problem with Dawson was that he never thought things through which led him into situations like this.
So you blameing Dawson for his two best friends going behind his back.
I think he over reacted but I get why he was a hurt
@@az21bob666 No I agree. What I was saying was is that Dawson made the mistake of letting Joey go and then since Pacey was spending more time with her that year he overreacted to them being together, they weren’t trying to hurt him and Dawson and Joey weren’t together at the time.
I agree but people act like Dawson broke up with Jory. The problem she broke up with him. Telling him she never wanted to see him again That broke him. It destroyed him
Then after she did not call it talk to him she tries sleep with him just because she saw him with a girl
He was to hurt to true her.
Something that I really love is that Joey and Pacey isn't something that just comes out of nowhere, like a gimmick for a fun plot in the show. When it happens, it feels like it was always meant to be. My favorite callback moment is in that episode early on, when they have to go looking for snails. When you first watch it, you don't make much of it because you're rooting for Dawson to finally notice Joey, but on every rewatch it's one of my favorites from the early seasons.
Agreed!
It's in the first scene ever of the show. Joey and Pacey have this banter that only true lovers can have. It starts out with the two of them.
I never understood why they wrote Dawson like this- they made him truly despicable!
Dawson's character was based on Kevin Williamson, the series creator, after all, the show's first couple of season were very autobiographical. Dawson is not your typical main character for a teenage drama, which is why he's not that likeable aside from the fact that he's "a good guy". He's neurotic, insecure, and over analytical, which are traits that girls don't really like no matter how romantic the character was supposed to be. That's why everybody loves Pacey and rooted for him and Joey. Pacey was "the perfect boyfriend". Good looking, noble, romantic and charming, and his only flaw was being an underachiever. He sets the bar so high for women that his character is probably the least realistic of the main cast. As a fictional character he was more likeable than Dawson, perfect for teenage girls' fantasies but way less interesting for me at least. And as the show progressed, it became less and less about Dawson and more about Joey.
@@siriusv7 Reluctant Hero lol
@@SpinDoctor91 Both Dawson and Pacey were "Reluctant Heroes" on said episode ;)
@@siriusv7 That's because Joey was the only character who was set up with a clearly defined goal (get out of Capeside, go to Ivy League college) and obstacles in the path of that goal. We always knew what she wanted and what stood in her way. That's storytelling 101. Dawson had goals but no obstacles (at least until later on but even then his path towards being a director was pretty easy), Pacey had obstacles but no goals, Jen's goals were nebulous... I think that's part of the reason why Joey became the main character. I wouldn't even say she's the most interesting and they nearly removed all her obstacles by the end of the show's run (which is part of the problem with the later seasons).
IMO anyway.
I have always been team Dawson, but maybe that’s because the funny charming act never works on me. My father was like that in public and abusive in private. He’s a good friend,
Sure, but husband and father? Sucky as shit. I saw the same in Pacey.
Dawson was a spoiled, manipulative, self-possessed, immature, boy. I was extremely pleased that the ending of this show played out the way it did. Kudos to the writers for fleshing out the truth and giving Pacey the ending he deserved.
Pacey was a back stabbing friend. Joey going to leave him. And it will be pacey fault
Dawson is the toxic nice guy... I never got his appeal then and especially now...
but that just not true you are forgetting joey told him I DO NOT KNOW who i want to be with, WHEN she acted like a adult and told him she wanted pacey he told her to go to pacey, LIKE a good freind.
You are all full of Hate.
I dont have any hate, but being told by the women you love she never wants to see you would be very hurtfull, so i cant blame dawson for wanting to take a break.
but agian you still over look every bad thing pacey did.
@@az21bob666 it is true. Dawson was horrible to his friends! They were there to only serve his happiness!
or really how, when he save joey dad life, when he save pacey life, when he help pacey like 20 times, when he was alwasy there for JEN, or when he paid for joey art, or paid for her college, or save jack life, so please tell me how dawson was horrible to his freinds
Joey: "Everything between you and me is so complicated"
Dawson: "If things between us are complicated it's because you made them that way"
This dialogue sums up Dawson's Creek pretty well.
@Miss Manawaka That's just what I said :-)
@Miss Manawaka WHAT? That's the other way around bro, nice try.
@Miss Manawaka Yes, actually from the moment they kiss for the first she someway o the other always pushed Dawson aside. Dawson said best on The leading lady episode: She can´t be with him or without him. Sbe feels alone. And he knew that for life.
@@radicalreactions1633 Joey emotionally manipulated both Dawson and Pacey. Maybe try watching the show. Joey Potter was a toxic person.
@@darth_kal-el 😆 🤣 😂
the cast chemistry is unreal and so is the writing
The acting in this scene is so strong. Dawson is just whiny, but y got to hand it to Joey. She just does a great job when she defends Pacey.
Man even watching it now it's hard to get through! The awkwardness, the sadness of friendships falling apart! My favorite show!!!
lowkey dawson never cared about who joey dated at this point except for when it was pacey
I agree and I think that’s because Pacey was the first person Dawson saw as an actual threat to his relationship with Joey. Nobody else had any comparable history with her except for Pacey, plus the fact that they used to strongly dislike each other meant that this change in feelings was even more likely to be authentic. In other words, Dawson was hurt and scared because he realized they had really fallen in love with each other and he had lost his place. He was used to being her soulmate and Pacey’s best friend but this new romance meant that he had lost his place in both respects.
@@impasse0124 no I think he was hurt more because Pacey was his best friend. Those other guys were random boys he didn’t have relationships with. But Pacey knew how much Dawson loved Joey and he still perused her. If ur bestfriend and ex hooked up u would feel the same.
@@impasse0124 I definitely agree with everything you said!
I remember watching this, it felt my own friend group tearing itself apart. I was so distraught, dying from all the tension. I was watching with my dad who could not fathom why his daughter cared so much. Oh, the teenage years...
Season 3 put every other teen drama in history to shame. This is how you do a love triangle
This was one of the best set ups for a love triangle I’ve ever seen. It’s not shoved in your face originally for drama. It happens so naturally and organically, that by the time it’s actually happening, you’re kind of rooting for it. Also on rewatch, you can see subtle hints of it in previous seasons- like that snail episode, or when Pacey punches a guy out for nearly taking advantage of Joey in season 1. It all coalesces really beautifully.
Yes ❤
Pacey and Joey ended up being one of the greatest love stories ever put on TV
The way Pacey looks at her…I can’t
I used to watch this in my late teens/early 20's but never watched the whole series. Binge watching all of it on netflix now as a 42yr old. I gotta say...this show is the epitome of no "bro code" or girl-code. Everybody sleeps with everyone else's ex. That's ok cuz that's reality but the fact that they all remain friends is unrealistic in my opinion. Maybe that happens in some "mature" circles but not most. Most realistic part is Joey chooses Pacey in the end instead of Dawson. I like how they make Joey & Dawson seem like they're gonna end up together in the end like some fairytale but while they might be soulmates, they are not romantic soulmates. They're friend soulmates. Joey & Pacey are romantic soulmates.
well pacey was sleeping with jen, in secret, even breaking into dawson room to do it.
then dating joey in secret,
and dawson get blame for being mad.
dawson did date pacey sister BUT he took him fishing the next day and told him.
@@az21bob666 Pacey didn't sleep with Jen
I agree this group of people would never stay friends. If u get with ur friends ex all trust is broken and the friendship would never be the same.
In an interview. That was the original plan. Joey and Dawson at the end.
But ratings were going down and Pacey and Joey really got people watching it again
There should be a streaming service that airs teenage dramas....... all in one service. Instead of having to subscribe multiple services.....
I'd buy that.
I was literally thinking about that the other day
With the original TV soundtrack, and you can sign me in too.
It's on netflix now
@@graceplet1223 thank you
What made Dawson feel like they had to run the relationship by him first? Dawson was dating and had the chance to be with Joey multiple times, but he encouraged Joey to move on. I can see being upset because he missed his shot, but he literally threw away 2 lifelong friendships because of their love for each other. He really had no real grip on reality.
becouse if they were half way decent freind they would have TOLD HIM, and he stay freind with joey, and he no longer wanted to be friend with pacey and there nothign wrong with that.
@@az21bob666 There is something wrong with that. Supposedly, they were both his besties, right? And they were literally stressing out how to tell him, almost like he was dating Joey when--lets remember--he WASN'T. He should have have equal anger for them both, but Dawson couldn't stand that Joey loved Pacey because he thought he was better than Pacey.
He never considered that they were so in love they couldn't stay away from each other. He only considered himself.
look if dawson SAID i would not be your freind if you date pacey THAT would be wrong.
BUT he never said that, he never HINTED that. he said you cant come BACK and DATE ME,
he did not want to have a another jack were she date a guy then they break up and she does back to him.
that what everyone miss.
@@az21bob666 He actually said that she couldn't date Pacey and be his friend. That's a terrible ultimatum and extremely manipulative. How could he possibly think that's the way to win over a girl? Like I said, Dawson was horrible.
@@karolyndowns2973 but he did not do that the next episodes he lets her go to pacy and he tries to move on with his life just bc he was toxic and this emotional moment does not make him a toxic person and if you want to talk about toxicity why doesn’t anybody talk about how Joey never told Dawson that she did not want him she always kept him on a leash when she had sex with pacey she did not tell him because she’s afraid he would move on when they took breaks she never says I don’t want you Dawson she always says am focusing on myself and your my soul mate how is that not toxic ? The fact that she would never let him go even when she was dating pacey
Can we talk about how phenomenal the emotionally acting of Katie Holmes and especially James van de Beek was?!
Yeah they both did great !
Also Joshua Jackson. They trimmed the scene but when Andie comes over, she says something like “how could you be so stupid?” And Pacey looks like he’s almost going to cry. Great acting all around.
The entire Joey/pacey chemistry/dynamic or whatever just makes me so happy! I just want to watch it over and over
Pacey always loved Joey deep down and Dawson would always seem to choose other women over Joey.
❤ Pacey
Haha its like I'm in junior high again lol
Once he did it. She was the one who kept pushing him away afterwards.
Dawson also loved Joey deep down - much more than Pacey ever did.
he dated jen when him and joey were friend, and then after that understood he was in love with joey, she keep break up with him, hell when they get together she again does the we need to grow up alone crap,
it like what a child no one grow up alone.
But she constantly broke up with him for no reason saying she needed to find herself only for her to get a new boyfriend shove it in his face and her say nothing but when he has a girlfriend oh it's so wrong but she can't do it why is it double standards they both do the same thing
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes Actually I think Joey was loved by Pacey just as much. So much that he was insecure and believed she deserved better than him. He did all those shitty things so Joey would leave him. But Joey knows this and won't let him go.
This show will always hold a special place
If you weren't #TeamPacey, idk how you sleep at night 🖤🤷🏻♀️
Pace is THAT DUDE! 🥰
Yes, I adored Joey and Pacey's entire dynamic, so I was incredibly thrilled when they were officially made the Endgame couple! 👫💖💘
Absolutely Dawson was a Prude in seasons one to five, he semi matured in season 6 Pacey was great the Ultimate boyfriend until Prom, then he changed and mid way threw season 6 he returned to normal. it just makes me mad that Pacey and Joey broke up, then he starts dating Audrey who was Joey's Roommate and also went to A Pristine IV league Private school he Pacey said he couldn't of been with Joey cuz she was " Better then him "
@@LadyEmilyRose Which goes to show how toxic their relationship was. And why they should’ve never been endgame. Unbalanced couples never work.
@@mightybitchy Who?
@@mightybitchy you could maybe argue that their relationship wasn't balanced initially but by the end of the show it definitely balanced out more. I'd also point out that Kevin Williamson has gone on record and said that he tried to write and shoot the last episode so that Dawson and Joey would be endgame, but he had to admit to himself that Pacey and Joey was what felt right.
he was not prude, he was very mature in season 4 and 5, it was joey that had most of the problems,
Honestly this was my favourite part. I loved how they finally brought out the truth. It was hurtful and a mess and brilliant. We knew it would be a monumental change that will affect the whole series and it was.
Please remember they we're 16. At this age everything is over dramatic. Even adults get overwhelmed by their feelings...selfish or not. So i kinda understand Dawsons reaction.
He was being lied to. Nobody at any age likes that.
@@Nazaba09 Dawson was mad at pacey for years though. Which is absolutely ridiculous.
I 100% believe he would have reacted the exact same way if he would have been told from the beginning.
I don't know man, I was 16/17 when I watched this show for the first time in 2008, I absolutely hated Dawson this season. Yeah maybe its realistic that some teenagers are this selfish and dramatic but it still doesn't/did not, make me sympathize with him. Dawson had a high entitlement problem throughout the show that is showcased excellently here.
I do to a extent Dawson sometimes holds grudges for quite some time but in this episode it was sad nobody told him the truth except Jen even though there not together she was just being a friend but it’s sad Joey and Dawson would not work out anyway they always argue they had some good times but when there together they did have lots of misunderstandings so that’s pretty toxic and stressful.
I used to love watching this show when I was a preteen. Now watching these clips I’m like, OMG wow this is SO dramatic😂
And I’m surprised how now I want to punch Joey in the face, when she says « you can’t ask me to choose, it’s unfair! », bitch, you made you bed, now lie in it and don’t go crying 😂 I guess it’s maturity speaking 😏
I love this episode. I'm not a huge fan of James VDB's acting, but in this episode he really nailed the scary/angry demeanor.
James Van Der Beek is talented..it's just this role ..and the awful writing..that comes with it.. never liked the acting overall but it's b/c of the writing.
How dare you bring up Varsity Blues
Honestly, when Dawson was talking to Joey upstairs in his bedroom, he was being manipulative and laying a guilt trip on Joey.
The way Pacey grieves the loss of Joey in the following episodes is what grips me, emotionally speaking. He sinks into a depression that is incredibly relatable.
I remember being a teenager thinking these peddy things were so inportant now it's about rent bills and my kids lol!!
Dawson was possessive of Joey in a weird way.
They're his movie characters and they're not behaving the way he wants them to
A lot of people saying dawson was possesive and i agree but i will also point out you could argue joey was being just as possesive. She wanted him to still be her friend just because it made her feel good, despite lying to him, if he doesnt want to be your friend after that you gotta suck it up and accept your mistake imo. You cant force someone to hang out witn you if that makes them sad just because you feel good. Seems pretty selfish to me
I’m saying YES to this dialogue here, it’s amazing
i get that dawson was upset that the two people he was closest to lied to him but it was still super toxic how he reacted especially in the end in the scene w joey
Joey wants to find herself LMFAO xD
The comments are priceless. Cmon people. They are supposed to be 16 in this. How do you expect Dawson to act? haha
He tells his best friend to take care of Joey because he is still hurt and he just sneaks behind his back with her but yeah how could Dawson be upset and angry?! Joey isnt his puppet!!
Finally a Smart comment
Joey breaks up with Dawson: Dawson keeps chasing and chasing till he gets her back
Joey breaks up with pacey: he just wants her too be happy weather it's with him or anyone else
dawson did not chase her, in fact she drag him back, she the one that ask to get back together.
People criticize Dawson's reaction, but I bet they would react the same way or worse in real life. Bunch of hypocrites.
You have to make a decision when it comes to friendship and relationship. Because of that in the end the friendship was ruined because of a relationship with another person. What an incredible episode of the Dawson's creek. Friendship is worth saving.
Loved this series!!!! What an extremely talented cast.
Man Dawson really was a jerk
Yeah his best friends are lying to him and he’s mad about it. Total jerk. 🙄
No he's not
Yo I watch this entire series like 15 years ago and I've watched it several times since then because it's one of my favorite shows. The character of Dawson was definitely a jerk. I mean sure he had his good moments but he was incredibly selfish. He treated Joey like she was a toy he could keep on a shelf and play with whenever he wanted.
@@Peachy36801 and Joey cheated on him the first time they dated and then broke up with him for trying to protect her from her father who was dealing drugs. She was kind of a POS too.
Yet you'll never talk about how much of a jerk Pacey was when he humiliated Joey in front of everyone during prom in season 4, blamed her for everything and broke up with her.
Honestly, I love Pacey and Joey a lot. They have the chemistry and spark that Dawson and Joey never did. But I don’t blame Dawson for getting angry. I mean the ex you’re still in love with and your best friend are suddenly together. A bit of a shit situation really. I hated Dawson insinuating their relationship could only be sex or revenge against himself, though. That was a bit immature, but I mean he’s 16 so his immaturity is valid. I don’t think Dawson and Joey are right for each other at all, but he’s not all too bad. Tbh I preferred him with Jen but he kind of treated Jen terribly in S1
dawson treated jen great, she like you look at me different, so you dont know what that mean.
it was not till JEN ex came to town and she had him stay as dawson for a few day why he was trying to get back, then he blow up. what would you do.
@@az21bob666 uh no. Dawson unhealthily idolized Jen, put pressure on her to be the perfect girl, and then had a mini meltdown when he found out she had a not-so-perfect past even though it had nothing to do with him, their relationship, or who she was trying to become in Capeside. And then when she finally did open up and accept that she wanted a relationship with him since he’d been trying to convince her, he went and casted her aside for Joey despite going months treating Jen like he wanted a real relationship with her. If you think that counts as treating someone “great”, your standards for men must be twisted. I don’t hate Dawson but he really didn’t treat Jen amazingly. Anyways, don’t you have anything better to do than to reply to a comment that’s legit three months old?
none of that is true, remember what he did when JEN told him, he held her hand that IT, he never yell or got mad, just held her hand.
GO back and want the sence of her telling him, THEN she got bad at him for looking at her, but she over thought what a look ment.
remember THEN she broke up with DAWSON, he got over her.
Remeber she wanted to get back together mouth after he was over her.
@@az21bob666 yeah no that’s definitely not how it was. Dawson treated Jen terribly and if a guy treated me that way, I’d run. But that’s my opinion. Clearly you and I saw it differently so you can see it however you want but that isn’t gonna change my mind
becosue you remember stuff that DID not happen,
It felt real seeing this live and it still feels real seeing it today. The acting was so good it feels like you’re watching real people and not characters. Dawson was being unfair making her choose. She loved and cared about both of them in different ways. Pacey asked for Dawson’s permission to ask Joey out in Season 1. Dawson asked Pacey to look out for Joey at beginning of Season 3 after he rejected her. Dawson thought they were having an affair not long before this. Dawson saw how Pacey went above and beyond to help Joey and her sister. Dawson pointed out that Pacey was at risk of being expelled from school for Joey. The signs were there and yet he had this reaction… He was right to be hurt. Dawson was in a weird place at the time and was trying to figure things out. Dawson missed his opportunity and his best friend took on the role he was supposed to have when he eventually got his stuff together.
Dawson acted how anyone would act if they found out, not to mention he had to find out from another person and not to mention in front of his house
Dawson didn’t care when Joey was starting something with A.J, but when he found out Joey and Pacey developed feelings for each other, he all of a sudden gave a f**k! Plus he knew full well that Pacey was better than him.
he did care about her dating AJ, he went there and the second he said AJ she throw a FIT, and there not way in hell pacey better then him,
That's not true. He had no problem with her dating AJ. He didn't mind at all.
@@az21bob666 Did you watch the show? Pacey was better for Joey in every way possible.
how yelling at her being jealous, being controling and then breaking up with her in the worse way THEN saying i cant be your friend and disapearring for month, she haveing no idea if he alive or dead.
@@az21bob666 Things changed after that. But the truth was they never stopped loving each other.
This was soooo good! I remember being 18 and watching this!
Dawson may have been dramatic, but it's always gonna be weird when an ex dates your friend. Why else were they having trouble telling him? They knew. Can't blame him for feeling blindsided. Pacey of all people, and not just a guy they had no history with
I agree 100%
I don't understand why people stand up for Dawson
Dawson didn’t love Joey he loves the ownership of Joey
I love this episode! It still gets to me till this day. I am so glad that Pacey and Joey got together in the next season. As well as the last episode of the show.
Omg Dawson is so extra 😂 relax ahaha
They didn't really come clean. It's more like they got busted.
You know except for the entire episode was them trying to tell him. Jen told him because she knew that pacey and Joey were trying to tell him and thought they already had. Fact is pacey didn't steal Joey. They had mutual feelings for each other.
@@Peachy36801 Yes. Except the key word there is "trying". Neither Pacey nor Joey ever had the balls to tell Dawson; until they had to. Than it all blew up!
It's funny. At the beginning of season 4, Joey still needed her friendship with Dawson. Why?
@@Peachy36801 Pacey completely stole Joey from his best friend. Joey was not only Dawson's love, but also his soulmate. Pacey had no right to go after Joey.
@@Peachy36801 Pacey should’ve asked him point blank, instead of going behind his back like that. I don’t know, maybe it’s because I’m an upfront person, but the worst part in this, is the betrayal and the lies.
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes Joey is her own person with her own agency. SHE IS NOT DAWSON'S PROPERTY!!! She and Pacey fell for each other and they BOTH decided to pursue those feelings. No one was stolen. No one was forced into something they didn't want. Joey was in no way beholden to Dawson; they weren't together and hadn't been for a long time at this point.
As much as I hate Dawson, my heart broke for him when he told Pacey not to look at Joey. He knew he was out of the loop at that point and there was nothing he could do.
I remember this episode because I was speechless and shocked
Of any teen drama of the last 25 years, nothing has ever compared to the Dawson/Joey/Pacey love triangle!
...It's exactly like reliving my past... The beginning of my love story... I love this show so much. ❤
There's always going to be a debate on who is better for Joey, Dawson or Pacey. I personally believe that it was Pacey. Dawson was in love with the idea of being in love but he was never actually in love with Joey. It took a while Pacey to realize that he was actually in love with Joey and vice versa. Throughout their courtship and their relationship as a whole they supported each other and made each other strive to be better people. It was a mature relationship from the beginning Dawson and Joey never had that. They were always better off just friends. It took Dawson a long time to realize this but he came to that realization to. Filmmaking always came first for him and that's fine. Pacey and Joey always put each other first. It took Joey and Pacey a long time to realize they were worthy of love and a healthy relationship even their family situations and past relationships. ALSO, keep in mind as a teenager you're just figuring out who you are, what you want to do with your life and who you want in it. That entire group of friends made mistakes they weren't perfect but they learned from their mistakes. That's what made this series realistic. A lot of the topics on the show were groundbreaking in terms of what was showing on TV at the time. And many teenagers go through similar situations even today.
Pacey was a jerk. And a terrible boyfriend to Joey. I don’t like her, but she deserved a lot better than whiny losers like him or Eddy 😬
I believe you got to look at it this way, Pacey matched well with Joey. Joey was an overly analytical person that thought everything to death. She spent so much time talking and not living/doing. Having lost both her parents, she probably had abandonment issues and needed a partner that would be focused on acts of service and focused on showing love through action. That is Pacey. Pacey, coming from a horrible family life where he was criticized a lot, needed words of affirmation and quality time. That is Joey. Joey was the thinker. Pacey was the doer. They matched up well.
Dawson, also overly analytical, was a neurotic thinker like Joey. It just didn't work out the same.
@@mightybitchy you're welcome to your opinion
@@fizzychizzy I comment with the way I did because there's always going to be an ongoing argument about who is better for her. There was no growth or potential for it the relationship she had with Dawson.
but there was a lot of grow, dawson the one that got her into art, and push her to go to college, not pacey.
This was my favorite show
This was the peak of the show.
When dawson said "what are u in love, is that it?" I would of said yes
You can see a mile off how much pacy and joey love each other, when two people love each other like they do, there is no keeping them apart, true love always finds a way
This episode with the repeating story was a headache... I loved it
_Dawson; "do you wanna sleep with him?"
YES DAWSON, WE ALL DO!!!
I would at least be a better friend to Pacey
If the situation was reversed, if Joey had dated with Pacey first, and if Dawson dated her without tell the truth to Pacey, I'm sure magically, people would judge this act odious, and would understand Pacey become crazy. People are so blinded by their fascination pour Pacey their understanding of situations is constantly distorded. Like we say in french, it's like "Penser avec sa culotte" ;)
EXCEPT we, the audience, has seen the reverse and Pacey and Joey reacted better than Dawson. Let's just assume they saw how poorly Dawson reacted and knew how to better handle the situation. In Season 5, Pacey finds out that Dawson is trying to move to Boston to be with Joey in a relationship and he wishes them the best. At this point, Pacey broke up with Joey. He has no claim on her. And he doesn't act out about it. And in Season 5, Joey catches Jen and Dawson making out after she thought she was going to start up a relationship with Dawson. And STILL, better reaction than Dawson.
I think the reason people favor Pacey is because of how he reacts after this fight. He didn't force Joey to chose. He kept telling her that he was not going to give her an ultimatum. Whereas Dawson clung to something that was not there and try to force a relationship when Joey stated several times she just wanted to be friends with him. So, its because of what Pacey did after this episode that got people to side with him more.
first dawson told her before he got to with JEN he was not going to date her, when his dad died it broke something in him.
second pacey DID giver her a ultimatum, ask me to STAY or i am leaveing the state.
and NO dawson DID not clung to anything SHE told him she cant decide who she wanted to be with, after pacey and her broke up SHE again wanted to start something.
stop acting like it only dawson that goes after her.
Whenever Pacey gets dumped especially by Joey he doesnt throw a tantrum like a child, Pacey has a low self esteem because of that he is always waiting for people to dump him and he always accepts when he gets dumped.
In season 6 you see that clearly when Joey tells him she didnt come to see him because Eddie came back, he just walks away.
I would like to know how many of us would react gracefully in Dawson's position.
Miss these days love Dawson's creek
BEST HIGH SCHOOL DRAMA EVER!!!!!!!!
Joey and Pacey are so stupid in this storyline. Gretchen said it : they lie so much to protect each other that, and in the end, things are worst. In this kind of situation, there is one rule : tell the truth, from the beginning. Especially between best friends.
I literally had a friendship like this in college, except was only ever interested in my Pacey, never my Dawson. It’s so stressful. When my Dawson found out about me and my Pace, he put us in the very same predicament. Just too much.
Ahh to be young again. I miss those problems
Brilliant acting!
So for all the people hating Dawson , let me ask you a question. If you were still in love with your best friend and she started dating another lifelong friend, how would you react as a teenage boy? I know the answer because it happened to me. And they hid it from him. They didn’t have the guts to come clean for a while. Of course he lashed out. He is am immature teen. I get it. It’s a very natural reaction and well written
You may have been in love, but Dawson had clearly shown that he was willing to move on from Joey before this moment. He was hooking up with another girl in front of the entire school even though he knew that Joey was willing and wanting to have sex with him not more than a week or two beforehand. He was able to take her dating AJ. Sure, he acted like an immature teen. But I think you aren't characterizing his state of mind well beforehand.
Thank you 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I would react like he reacted when she was dating AJ.
You kind of answered your own question. His an immature teen. That's why people are hating him. He needed to show maturity
I respect Dawson because he wouldn't even consider the friendzone. Its never fair not even for a lil while
I feel so old watching this lol!
Because Pacey and Joey are end game..I'm rooting for them
They were so bad for each other. Their relationship in season 4 ended on a train wreck. Then they realized they were better off as friends. And are endgame? It disappointed me coming from Kevin Williamson, it was preteen writing level.
I just ended the whole show and god! I totally recommend it idk if it’s just my opinion or something but I absolutely loved it and Rn I feel so mesmerized about it. It made so much sense for me in this time of my life
Pacey had to grow up so much and was so much more grounded than Dawson. Dawson lived in a fantasy world. His behaviour displays so many red flags for me
pacey had far far more red flag was was a worse person.
I soooo miss this show
Honestly as sad that Dawson founds out that Joey and Pacey are together Dawson and Joey were toxic in some ways towards one another it would never work out between them they always argued and never got over of the past so there so much hurt but i know Joey still cares for Dawson more like a best friend truthfully we can’t always get what we want.
Pacey was also toxic for Joey.
Pacey and Joey were more toxic. Joey chose to be with him and he was still insecure. Like goddamn, she chose you over her best friend. What else do you want?
Joey and Pacey were toxic
Dawson Gretchen great. Dawson men great. Dawson actress. Work good
Joey Pacey he hate himself. Eddi e was deeply hurt. Dawson her best friend. she does not talk for. Year
Pacey. She hate him self break up with. Joey room age have a break down. He punchs his bosses
And some how Dawson the bad one
@@Nazaba09 he was insecure because he had bad grades how would and him having a girlfriend didn’t change that
@@Nazaba09 well remember Dawson clearly had so many chances to be with his so called soulmate and he rejected her can’t blame Joey for this reminder Dawson was also playing around messing around with Eve why mess around with you can have your soulmate by your side instead of messing around fooling around so clearly Dawson and Joey are not soulmates Dawson don’t understand the meaning Pacey indeed is Joey soulmate there got back together and stayed together so that’s not toxic in my opinion Pacey got it together got his life back together and end game with Joey.
Dawson, imo is a character who, more than wanting to be a movie director, has an intense need to control everything and everyone with an ability to handle difficult unpleasant situations. James Van der Beek seems to demonstrate he works so much better with the more complex darker emotions than the 'good boy'. i feel like one of the reasons why so many viewers hated Dawson wasn't only bc of the character's scripted actions & words but the actor's intense performances in scenes where when he's angry, grieving and berating those around him.
Dawson never tried to control anyone. If you believe that you just stupid