Mormon Polygamist Cult EXPLOITS Minors at 25 Cents per Hour
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024
- Apostolic United Brethren prophesied this now comedian would restore the true LDS (Mormon) church to the earth. In Ben's case, 2 moms prove to be far more difficult than convenient, as he was dealing with working long hours for little to know money at 8.
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Ben is one of the most engaging story tellers I've ever experienced. Intelligence & Comedy, I could listen to him for days. Really great interview.
I felt exactly the same about him! 😂
Same here I just love him is great
You took the words from my mouth. I assumed there has to be at least one person who thinks like me...and here you are 😊
Ben's interview was so engaging and interesting.
This was "time excellently spent". ❤
yes, please have him back on if possible!! :D
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Folks keep respecting communities like this and the Amish who exploit child labor! I love when people can tell it like it really is: heartless, dangerous, and undocmented in too many cases!
The Amish totally depends on the community. We live in a community surrounded by Amish. Nearly all the males have their own businesses by 18 or have a partnership in one. Better than english farm kids. Work their butts off on the farm for no pay just for their parents to rent it out because "they want more for their kids". 🙄
Wait, when did they take the planet away?
As an ex Mennonite, and the descendent of Amish family members, I could not agree more.
Very well said, thank you
The Amish are amazing people. Not all but most
Spirit babies? Planets? Eternally preggers? No genitals? Just...OMG 🙉 I had no idea this cult was THAT weird.
😂😂😂 when you reaaaaally get into the weeds of Mormonism it’s a trip
And THATS the mainstream!! 😅
@@CultstoConsciousnessback in the late 90s, i nannied after school for a couple with autistic nonverbal twins & their 9 year old son. They were Mormons. I remember her mentioning something about spirit babies and all these crazy conversations her mother was trying to drag her back in to. They had moved from Utah to NJ specifically to my area because, for the time, we had a school system with REALLY good services for autistic children like her twins. She hated what they had in Utah and said it was glorified babysitting. Looking back, I am wondering what else she was running away from. Her relationship with her parents sounded pretty good, outside of the religious things that I thought was incredibly wacky from my NE coast flavor of Baptist view. I have no idea what else she mentioned, my brain was stuck on loop trying to figure out what the hell she meant by spirit and shadow babies! In NJ, we had absolutely zero understanding of Mormon beliefs beyond the polygamy.
Knowing what I know now, I’m glad she left and her husband left the church with her (they have not gone back), and his parents at least didn’t shun them. I cannot imagine the immense guilt the religion placed on her for how disabled her kids were. I miss those twins, they were so much fun. (Turns out I’m autistic too and probably why I got on and understood them so well.)
No weirder than the concepts of all major monotheistic religions. They're all just taking a page from one another's book of power to dominate, oppress, gain power and wealth, and feel morally superior. If everyone could open their eyes to see the parallel between what they're deeming strange here, compared to their own unrealistic ideology- the world would be a much better, more sane and peaceful place
To my knowledge, they aren't teaching that anymore, but they gaslight you that they never taught that, tho you can find essays and other church material on their website, that still says it.
But if you know nothing else, it's all par for the course.
You are told to doubt your doubts, before you doubt your faith, and not question the elders or church leadership.
Anything they don't subscribe to in their magazines or essays, or tv channel is antimormon and untrue.
But if you're assaulted, they will ruin you socially and protect your a tracker because purity culture and you're responsible for men's thoughts. Still
"They are bad dudes" Thank you Ben for saying it plainly. 👏👏👏
Yes, they wouldn't offer a glass of water. That's evil.
It’s really nice to see someone who was raised in such a terrible environment become such a well adjusted adult. He’s very inspiring!!
It's a privilege to be able to recover from trauma that well, but also not everything shows on the outside.
There's a difference between teaching your kids hard work and expecting them to contribute to the household or community and using them as cheap or free labor in an abusive way.
I recently had 3 Mormon boys volunteering on my property. I have never been Mormon.
They shared their testimonials and read several chapters from the book during the 3 months they came. I feel so bad for 1. Taking advantage of their kindness (I figured I was helping them get a planet). 2. They are so brainwashed. I told them I am a lesbian, coffee drinking, pot smokin, human and don't intend to change. They still tried to save me. I kindly let them know the church is too racist and misogynistic for me. They felt sad for me but appeared to know I was right.
It was an odd experience.
Maybe you were a relief for them to be around? Sounds like you were still nice to them, and more honest than they were used to.
Or maybe they fancied you.
I think it’s like the suspended disbelief of reading or watching a really really good story. Who didn’t want to ride their own special dragon in Game of Thrones? Who wants Gandalf to visit? Aslan to walk with you in the forest?
❤love, loved Benjamin in this interview! He's so passionate and ready to laugh at the silly lies people choose to believe 😂 So proud of him for sharing and finding his truest self.
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@@thefreshkingbenjaminwhen you said the answers were in the back of the book I was already laughing and actually said it at the same time as you 😂 not because I’d seen your comedy but because that also how I learned algebra 😂 isolationist homeschool life was wild
yes, you love a satanist! wake up!
I’m not Mormon but have always been interested in this cult when I stumbled on Mormon Stories many years ago. I have to say Benjamin was the best guest ever I’ve heard. He was able to convey and bring that church down in just over an hour and a half. There are so many Mormon families on Utube now exploiting their children and making large amounts of money which is helping the church in a big way with the tithing. I know we’re all aware of Ruby and eight passengers, also the horrific Daybell case but there are so many Utubers out there that I would love it to be addressed.
Yes! We have done lives about Ruby and Jodi
Wow. I love this guy. He's so good at explaining things and seems like a really good person. Please bring him back for more!
I grew up in the Church of Christ.
I now realize it was very cultish. I was terrified of hell as young as three or four. I'm grateful for you S. You have helped So many of us❤
❤️🙏 I’m so happy to hear it’s helpful!
never stop! this is your real mission. @@CultstoConsciousness
I grew up in Church of Christ also!! It was pretty wild
So did I! Even went to a C of C college. I’ve had to unlearn a lot of attitudes that were harmful to me.
Thank you for punching my old bishop! 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️ Excellent interview.
I was sent here by Realitea Squad and I was not disappointed! Shelise and Ben are gold! Please do more episodes together. ❤
Me too!
I was sent here for Ben's interview by Reality Squad to as Ben being the nephew of Cody Brown. Would love to see Ben and Amanda Rae with you Shelise
Me too❤
I'm so glad you had Ben a a guest. I have learned more about the Mormon cult today than I ever had before. Thank you Shelise, for all your work from someone who managed to get away from a Christian cult (Rex Humbard).
I could seriously listen to King Benjamin for at least another hour...or two! So insightful,fun and entertaining while teaching us so much. Definitely have him back!
Well Benjamin was frickin amazeballs. More please! You two play off each other so well if was super fun to watch.
Hello, fellow British person! Amirite? (Apologies if not, of course.)
Love this channel! Thank you for introducing so many of us to Ben! He is AWESOME!!. I'm a no-mo but I am interested in the stories of those who were raised in and/or came to be members of cults. I was raised in a conservative religion (Lutheran MO Synod) including church every Sunday and 8 years of Lutheran grade school but in 1972, as a 7th grader, I led a revolt of my fellow female classmates to be able to wear pants to school. We hid them in our coats and put them on when we got to school. lol We got vocal resistance from the administrators but within a couple of weeks, we eventually won the war. Looking back, I did get an excellent education so I'm thankful for that.
Thanks so much! And thanks for sharing that! Pretty awesome!!
Wow! You were a pioneer! Thanks for standing proud. ❤
You made Mormonism sound like Oprah. 🙋🏾♀️“You get a planet! You get a planet! You get a planet!” 🌍🪐🌏
😂!
@@Lillaloppanlook under your seat!
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Benjamin’s whole interview is a Linda, listen! 😊 I love the passion.
South of Santaquin, west of I15 in Utah you can see a large polygamist community. I grew up going to school with a few of them, they are absolutely abused and neglected.
I understand that Utah/Colorado taxpayers end up paying for all the polygamist children via welfare. I'm all for keeping children safe, fed and housed, but the FLDS seem to abuse the system.
This is one of my favorite interviews!
Super interesting!!!!!!! I love history lessons! I'd love to have Ben speak more about Mormon history!
OMG it is so important that you went through the political view of it. Bigotry, homophobia, misoginy, racism, all of these are intrinscically connected to all of that type of christianism
Exactly - these beliefs are not siloed.
@DebHell you are so que tal
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That's not "Christianity". It gets called that, but it's not accurate.
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That's the excuse they use. They pretend the buybull gives them instruction how and permission to be full blown bigots from an imaginary sky daddy.
And that is because the only reason religion, any religion, was invented was to control people. Mostly women and children. Because religion is, and always has been and always will be about power and control.
We need to close the religious loophole on child labor!
AND child abuse/sexual abuse, AND genital mutilation for any gender, AND spousal abuse, AND oppression of minority groups, AND AND AND...
the GOP are currently loosening child labour laws or trying very hard to
Red states are. They are bringing all state child employment laws into line with what churches have been allowed to get away with.
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. It’s incredibly important that this info exists. I fear this is the future of America in some ways. So I thank you even more because this will enlighten others to the dangers of cults. I’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with this child abuse and that our country did not find a way to protect you.
My absolute favorite interview! Benjamin is so knowledgeable & I can’t get enough of his energy. I’d love to see more from him!
I have spent 5 days listening to your channel, it has made me laugh, cry, be angry and amazed. Thank you so much, your channel has a new subscriber.
Finally a man forcefully speaking up for women. His heart is in it and I wish more men would man up in this way.
favorite guest on the show till date. Love the way he weaves in subtle humour with blunt factual statements
This interview is great! Ben is so fun to listen too, I could keep listening for hours… also I feel he really addresses some that get skipped over in some morman interviews. I feel I learned a lot about Mormonism. Thanks, Ben!
Hi Shelise! I just want to thank you for your channel. I've been on my own journey dealing with my own faith crisis and your content has been so helpful in helping me ask myself questions about what I believe and has created a safe space for me to criticality think about "blasphemous " ideas.
Keep up the great work! It is so needed. ❤
Probably the best sassy statement I've heard in a long time. I definitely follow King Benjamin.
Best guest ever….we need more Ben in our lives ……..he’s got such a pure heart….and a wicked sense of humor 😇
I have learned so much just from this interview. Thanks for interviewing Ben.
If he doesn’t already, he needs to go on a lecture circuit on this subject.
Yay!! I’ve followed Ben on TT for a while! Just found Shelise recently through ex-Scientology. So happy to see y’all talk!!!!
I am always so amazed ( I shouldn’t be!) how articulate and intelligent the amazing ex-cult members are!!
this guy was hilarious! such an amazing episode. please have him on again ❤
Show us the plates! If I learned anything from my cult experience, it is that a prophet is not a prophet without props. So please, King Benjamin, show us the golden plates. Also Shelise please bring him back. Ben is hilarious and so articulate. I love hearing him express all these diverse thoughts and well thought out points. I also loved his exploration of the generational trauma caused by doing these rituals with such malicious roots. That is some seriously bad juju and I was glad he paused to bring it up. And also to remind my cult programmed brain to hold all beliefs loosely.😊
Just revealed them on my TikTok!
Congratulations on 100k, Shelise-well deserved ❤❤ Ben’s humor and warmth are amazing, and I had not previously seen him, so this was a treat.
This guy is awesome. Thanks Shelise :)
What a smart, charismatic, strong and wonderful young man. He has so much clarity. My hat off to him. 👏👏👏❤️❤️
Only just watched this interview…wow! Ben is such a great speaker, and it was fascinating to listen to his life experience story.
Fantastic! That was so interesting, educating and f'ing funny! Ben has officially done the longest and most detailed Linda Listen! Loved it ❤😂
He is both hilarious and a great motivational speaker. 🔈 This guy is going to change things.
This was a fabulous interview! Ben has a great sense of humour after all he's seen and experienced. Thanks Ben and Shelise!
I lived for a couple of years in a middle eastern country. I struggled internally on a daily basis with what I perceived as a faith that insisted women covered themselves from head to toe. In order to come to terms with this, I reminded myself that my home country of the US also had segments of society that governed women must dress a certain way in addition to other slights against them as a female in their faith. It’s a dangerous mindset when people are brainwashed to believe that being a devout woman equates to always feeling uncomfortable.
Yep.
This was one of the best episodes ever! And the Linda listen was hands down the absolute best Linda listen moment! Absolutely fantastic! 🎉
Great interview! Huge fan of Ben. Love the way he breaks things down. He has a bright future. ❤
He really embodied the energy of the "Linda listen" kid!! I love that.
Thank you!!! Would love to hear more!!!! Excellent conversation. 👑✨✨✨
I was not raised nor am I religious. I can, however, appreciate what a wonderful resource your work is for people escaping cults and religion. You do great work. These people you interview are incredible. I wish everyone freedom, choice, education, and happiness.
Another amazing interview!
I loved his interview. I live in Cody Wyoming, about 45 miles from where he's from. Wish he was still here! We need more cool, fun, spiritual people like him here! Thanks!
Child labor in these cults is so terrible.
Bens story about how he was "posessed by devil" is so familiar to me. I was told I was opressed by a deacon in my non denominational IHOP (International House of Prayer) Aligned church at 12 13ish. I was having a nervous breakdown from realizing I was queer, hormone imbalances, starting to develop depression from extreme bullying, ect. It wasn't until I was 20 and left after being kicked out by a sub group for not wanting to be healed. turns out the church was my actual oppressor not a demon.
So happy you left before they tried some kind of torturous "conversion" on you! It's always a good day when someone is able to live as their true self!!!!
Congratulations!
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One of the teachers at the Christian high school i graduated from was obsessed with IHOP. She always gave me cultish vibes.
I love you two both so much; what a dank interview. Im in, Ben Brown! True Prophet indeed.
This guy is great. The part about the mormon church stealing his family's money for GENERATIONS has to be such a gut punch - it's just so crazy, like you are paying for your own torture.
And then on top of all that they didn't take him to the hospital when he was obviously in need of medical attention! Wow
But Ben was so funny and just cut right through the heart of the matter on so many points showing how it's all such a huge fake.
This was really powerful!! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for this interview! I was just talking about how there is a loud group of people on YT who think children should be treated as adults and that's a slippery slope that I don't agree with. I'm sharing this with everyone.
That’s very culty AND a big argument that pedophiles use to excuse their crimes. And that’s why they are trying to legalize child labor again.😡
I used to say something like that (that children should be treated like adults) but what i really meant is children should be treated like people. Their feelings, thoughts and opinions should be listened to and taken into consideration especially when pertaining to themselves. Not that we should actually treat them like adults. Becayse there are people who dont even believe that.
I loved your guest today! Excellent speaker and very engaging. I would really like for him to come back in the future. ❤ His Linda Listen Moment was very inspiring and appreciated.
Thank you for putting Mormonism into an easy way to understand the underlying beliefs in a fun way 🙌
I loved this episode so much. I laughed and learned.
Ben is great!! Love the way he tells the story
Your conversation about how weird the temple ceremony is reminded me about the last time I went to the temple in 2020 and had a major panic attack halfway through the endowment ceremony. Even though I knew it was "wrong" according to the rules, I got up and walked out of the endowment room, changed my clothes as quickly as possible, and left the temple. I have never gone back and have since left the church entirely. We can trust our feelings and our bodies!
Congrats for getting out!
That had to be stressful to be in that environment when you realized what was up. I'm so happy for you to have realized what it was and that you got yourself out of that!
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Well done!! You listened to your heart, your gut, and you have a voice!
The most epic "Linda, listen" hahaha. GREAT episode, Shelise!
Great intelligent conversation. Thank you for the inside snapshot of Mormonism and the UAB.
Shelise, a wonderful interview, as always.
Ben, you crack me up. I'm a woman, born in 1935, watching this on my phone, but don't want old men leading anything.
Haha YOU crack me up. Thanks for watching!
Thank you soooooo much CTC!!!! I enjoyed so much listening to BEN! He’s HOPE. How do you talk truth to people who have been brainwashed from birth, generation after generation, on a need to know basis?????? BEN & the power of JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!
"Prophet" Ben is a hoot! I had a good time listening!
Vote for Ben!
I just found his stand up recently! It's so good.
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Mormonism trains men to be narcissists and not all boys can become dictators and be mentally sound
"Folks, we are dressed up in weird clothes..!". I love his reality checking attitude. Hes amazing. Thankful for his voice
Thank you Ben for sharing your story.
I found this video after finding his channel where he is reacting to sister wives. I’m so glad he is speaking out. I hope he does an interview on Mormon stories. Being related to Kody Brown is going to bring a lot of viewers
I love this guy, hope you do more, as always quality content Shelise and hubby ❤
Benjamin thank you your perspective is so refreshing.
I had a friend who worked for a mormon bookstore in Washington. She was divorced twice to 2 dead beat Dads who won't pay child support and the church just paid her minimum wage. Just ridiculous! Pay tithing and go to church just to get shafted
Hey, we're voting for you! Love the idea of church leadership coming clean and telling the truth with sincere apology.We love your clarity of thought. Not sure of the full trickle down effect of losing one's voice, heart and gut instincts either. One family member used to say she felt like a 'Stepford Wife." Many in our large family seem shut down, I know I was in my youth. The peer pressure is real and scapegoating seems common. Yes, we need more folks to be their true creative sparkly selves! Great Insight. Thank You Ben..
When Ben was talking about Brigham Young converting and collecting up new mormons and taking them to the desert where the government couldn't reach them (around 45:00), I was immediately reminded of Jim Jones and Jonestown. There's really nothing new under the sun, is there?
Also this Linda listen was so fun! I was laughing the whole time! I know it’s serious but we gotta laugh right ❤
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
All of them. 🤟🤘
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Benjamin would be a awesome history teacher.
I have also had a Mormon exorcism. 1985. My mother also thought I had a demon in me, but no, it was a seizure disorder that I have had from age 15 to my current age, 53.
Mormonism sucks at diagnosing what’s really going on 😢
I’m sorry that happened to you. I hope it wasn’t too long before you were able to get adequate care?🙏🏼
True. This happened in 80s
My deaf brother had a virus attacking his heart at 15 years old. Was left in bed for days and had only hand blessing. Finally was almost dead when brought to an actual doctor. Doctor made my parent rush him to hospital. They were scolded by hospital. If they had brought him days before there would have been less heart damage. He has had to live with this heart damage since. 1980s
@@ascent8487 yes, thank you! My father put wisdom in my mother's ear 😆
He was a convert to the church and wasn't as coocoo haha
I love him!! Amazing interview thank you so much!
Um… That was the absolute best, Linda listen, I have ever heard! Excellent episode! I so enjoy what you have to offer! Keep it up! You’re making a difference!
It's so nice that people have a platform to speak out and not be judged, I absolutely love these podcasts but I feel like 1 hour just Zips right by because I'm so invested with their stories. Thank you Shalise for this platform and for all the brave people that come out here and speak their truth💚🐲🐉💚
Thanks so much for watching and supporting!
Shelise, you are such an inspiration. I love your show! Your spirit is so bright. Keep up the incredible work you are doing.
This has to be the best interview you have had to date. What a great speaker. Enjoyed it.
Thank you for sharing! It was a fun convo for sure!
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I'm pretty sure I'd rather skip the genitals than be forever pregnant
100% 😂
Excellent interview! I'm amazed how well-adjusted Benjamin is despite all the crazy sh** he had to deal with.
Therapy is awesome!
@@thefreshkingbenjaminso impressed that you chose to go to therapy! Real men go to therapy. Good on you!
(Also, as an Aussie, hearing to swearing your head off, is wonderful. Rude words are not cursing. They are necessary emphasisers, at times. Glad you are free enough to speak freely.)
This guys was super entertaining. Great episode as always ❤❤❤❤
I've been watching a lot of your videos. Please have King Benjamin on again. He did such a great job of filling us non-former-mormons in on the history and was great at telling us about his experiences. Thanks!
Being pregnant FOREVER? I'm sorry, but I said, "One and done," and I meant it. 😂
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Yep, I thought, oh joy! The first time I heard that one. Not exactly Heaven, huh? Nausea, pain, and squished internal organs! See the big line of men signing up for that? Nope.
The Ken doll swipe 😂 this guy is great. I hope he returns to the show!
Love, love, LOVE your podcast!! Your insights & humor are amazing!
I have really enjoyed this. He is very charismatic! Keep up the good work
I can relate to the neglect, both emotionally and physically as the 10th of 11 children,plus throw in drunk granny.😮😅
Only child, here. Sending you a hug if you want one.
Loved loved loved this episode! More from king please!
Loved this interview! So fun😂
That was the best Linda Listen ever 😂. He was phenomenal, we need more!