@@animal1nstinct394 bruv change ur dealer, he's complaining about a character being op, in every fg everyone complains abt metas, well a fatehead like u wouldn't hv a clue, bt fate complains & whines abt everything, even combos, knows nothing abt the game 0skills
I get what Fate is saying and I actually know people who don't really care about modern fighters these days because of how, in their eyes, it became too "crazy" to keep up with. Fate is someone who comes from a time where MK2 and even UMK3 style gameplay was where they felt most comfortable. There were combos but they were quick and easy to remember and even doing things like uppercuts did big damage. These days in just about any long running fighting game you're required to know how to use these various mechanics/systems and pull off tons of combos that take what feels like ten seconds to play out. Guys like Fate are overwhelmed by it all and if they come from the classic era probably feel alienated by everything around them. They can't just do a Scorpion Spear into Uppercut to take off 30% of someone's life anymore, they have to learn ten hit combos and how to call in kameos and learn every character's frames and normals on top of the specials and amplified specials, etc.
I honestly think Fate has some sort of handicap. He can't just be dvumb because at this point he would have already understood that he simply cannot argue with anyone that has a little bit of technical knowledge about fighting games yet he insists in doing so.
This was one of the most life draining and braindead experiences I ever had. Respect to anyone who sat through ALL of this... Edit: Its obviously because of King of Scrubs aka "Fight All Thy Enemies".
@@Nappr3:49:02 he also doesn’t understand the difference between *solving the AI and *adapting versus a human. The AI will never intentionally bait you into doing anything, it just has specific sequences programmed. Humans choose to react in any number of ways and can opt out of predictable patterns on a whim.
I used to be like Fate. Then I found sikander. Then I tried to get good and it somehow worked. And you need to live this yourself to get it. That is what Fate is not doing. It is a legit skill issue, he needs to experience the game and none of this would have happen. Regardless, thank you Fate you developing in me testicular cancer.
My issue when it comes to gameplay is the weird block stun or what ever that is. When my opponent hits me with a minus attack it’s like my buttons get stuck, they don’t come out. Maybe it’s the timing but it throws me off quite a bit
Go into the lab and practice your reversal timing. That's fundamental to leveling up, practicing counter pokes, reversal Kameos, reversal armor in Gap's. Go through the characters moves that give you a hard time and find weaknesses like Gap's, bad reach you can walk back or backdash wiff punish, or being -8 to -30 on block or if it's duckable or if it's flawless block punishable or UpBlock PUNISHABLE. The vast majority of stuff in this game has counters. For example Kenshi with Sento does F22, Sento 2 over and over, it has a gap in both. Kenshi B2/B12 into any sento has gaps.
I do agree when fate said i feel like im fighting the games engine…thats kinda true but it does sound like he just sucks at mortal kombat tbh its not that hard to figure out
Stryker isn't a problem, I have multiple videos up on how to counter Stryker Grenades. Sub Zero is a great example, Sub's D2 trades with Nades and does 14% and Sub only takes 6% and Sub has 20+ frame advantage. Do that twice and Stryker on cooldown. The Stryker player has to gap the Nades after their string for it to OS, meaning it has to be timed after to do a launch when your string into Nades hits, + on block if string and Nades is blocked. It only works that way on a specific timing. They can frame trap so it can't be D2'd but it loses it's strength it's ability to launch. Kung Lao hat used as HTB is also counterable with Kameos Ambush like Scorpion Kameo Flame, they Set hat and go right into overhead for HTB. You call Scorpion flame right where Lao Hat is set and it knocks the Lao Hat off screen for less than 4% damage taken and let's you Upblock punish the overhead. Doesn't matter if they do overhead to low or low to overhead timing with the overhead it removes the HTB mix completely. You can also counter Lao hat on reaction with Sub Zero Kameo or Khameleon Jade Glow and do the same thing. They have to space the overhead and low 4 frames apart because there is HTB Protection that auto blocks 1-3 Frame HTB's
@@JustSendMeLocationyour an idiot. He’s not saying he knows it all he’s saying there are ways to counteract Laos hat and strikers grenades. He doesn’t have to be in a tournament to figure that out. Stop being a smart ass to people in RUclips comments. Especially when they’re just trying to help people.
This was an awesome moment first time seeing these two discuss. “Scrap”, “Visual Player” among other terms coined by Fate, have become wildly hilarious in the larger MK community. I have my own nitpicks with MK1 but enjoy the game otherwise I would leave it alone. The point Sikander made to Fate is valid. Why waste all your time with MK1 if you hate it that much? I agree those who hate it, and don’t understand the mechanics… why should they have a voice in the direction of anything? Like anything in life… example if you hate a specific job. Either you put up with it or you find something else. You don’t spend the next months or years making hundreds of videos, I hate my job and this and that. 💯
FATE. "you literally tell people to go to practice mode!" Hollow. "Yeah, practice mode is where you go to learn about the game mechanics, not fight the AI." FATE. "no". also FATE: *instantly recommends a video telling people to go practice mode to fight against the AI*
I liked krushing blows but the problem was it wasn’t equal across the board for characters and guessing wrong on throws lead to at the least 21 percent and more for other characters. Krushing blows should’ve always been the whiff or crush counters and pokes not being punishable on block was also terrible.
2:42:37 fate if you see this, do you not realize ppl who play this game at a high, pro, competitive lvl doing big combos, they are having fun. Learning about the game is fun for them. But your saying that your uniformed knowledge, opinion, and skill of the game brings you no joy, fun or entertainment. So all you have to do is become more knowledgeable to have more fun. Problem solved. And also, if the 'competitive' player is having fun for actual learning and playing the game, why are you saying there in the wrong if there having fun?
It’s fine to be a casual, the difference is that if you don’t learn and study the gameplay you have no right to complain about the gameplay. This Fate guy’s logic doesn’t make any sense, idk how Sik and Mike sat through all that blabbering.
Right. As a contrast, when MK Tom Brady complains about game mechanics, it’s after he has studied the ins, outs, and counter options across multiple characters in training mode, so he can actually speak with authority based on tangible experiences he can recreate and demonstrate. Fate’s over here not able to figure out how to do a 4-hit combo, use his kameo or even turn off the Release Check option 😂
I'm sorry, but MK1 IS shit. I literally sold it today on EBAY. Screw NRS. SF6 is an actual fighting game not a fucking mario party game like MK1. Made by competent devs. NRS has NO CLUE how to make fighting games. PERIOD. Dont get wrong I love watching Sik. Hes funny as hell and good at MK. But I watch him for the entertainment not the game. It's objectively bad.
Had to stop midway into this "debate" because it went absolutely no where. It's no wonder the MK community is getting clowned on by other FGCs. Plus, didn't Sikk called out NRS for that BS overhead into a frozen Tanya? Now he's throwing shit at the wrong person while NRS gets away with a broken game? Keep fighting amongst yourselves, I'm sure MK1 will get better...
Sik isnt arguing that the game isnt broken though, he knows that we all know that. Fates problem, and siks argument is that the gameplay and its mechanics are good but obviously needs tweaks and he’s said that multiple times. On the other hand fate believes the game play and mechanics even if they weren’t buggy are bad and thats not the case its almost universally agreed that GAMEPLAY WISE this is one of the best mortal kombat games in that aspect. Fate simply isnt having fun with the gameplay and thinks its bad because he cant play it and he sucks and refuses to learn. The man literally doesn’t do combos past 4 or 5 hits and calls anyone else doing them to him cheaters so yeah this lil “gotcha” moment you thought you had isnt gonna work here, Sik didnt contradict himself by saying that you just didnt listen.
Sik complains about bugs that need to be fixed and balancing sometimes. Fate complains about the gameplay that he doesn’t understand when he could literally fix that by taking his ass to the games practice mode. Nobody is arguing that WBs practices arent shitty, the lack of content or the game being released unfinished which again nobody is arguing. people are only arguing with fate because he criticizes the gameplay and doesn’t even understand it.
@@AJ_A1best gameplay wise? Lol everyone complains about cameos or wishes they werent in the game. Or how air strings/combos dont belong in the game. Or how unbalanced the characters are, or how a lot of characters like sub zero or scorpion feel completly different. nrs and mortal kombat fanboys are funny to observe.
3:40:00 was a valuable piece of information its the australian bubble Fate cant play online and face enough opponents the matchmaking is not in his favour as player numbers are already low and that part ofthe world cant connect to others so i cant blame him for that he has had limited exposure to the human competitive side of the games.
I'm watching this back and I really wish I was on call with you LOL. I both see what your saying and what he's saying and I'm also noticing that when he is explaining his opinions on his issues with the combat system defensive wise from what I'm hearing he's saying that he has a issue with the fact that it takes three bars to do a breaker and because of how long you can be caught up in a combo it should take less then three bars to get out of it plus that same meter you use to get out of a combo you use as a special enhancer. So to fix his issue with that is to either have a separate meter for the breaker or to make it require less which he said in the video to break out of the combos but from what I was hearing him say having a separate meter wouldn't be enough because he would along with others would still complain about it taking all three bars to break out of combos. Content wise outside of online yeah of course they could have added more along with content that would be included online like for starters a mode without Kameos or a tag mode instead of Kameos to where you can switch between two characters and use a assist from your other character your not using at the moment and be able to do longer combos which of course the game already has it built in to be able to break out of combos if you really needed to. I didn't say what you where saying because you know what you where saying 100% and you wasn't wrong. People might misinterpret what your saying as a harsh opinion but your not wrong realistically having these issues is a skill issue. If your dealing with these issues in the game from what I been seeing from you and others that you need to take the time to learn and most of the time what your doing wrong in the game to get better at it. If your going to complain about you having issues with others doing longer combos to you then you can do them then you need to take the time and learn how to do them yourself and learn how to avoid getting hit by them. At times it's going to take you learning all aspects of the offensive and defensive system to do that. This doesn't just apply in Mortal Kombat 1 this applies in many others and many others don't have a way to break out of combos in the air the way Mortal Kombat does.
Fate is right, NRS have no history with "assist" mechanics. And if MK was a SPINOFF of the series it will be okay, but kameos and air combos in the main series???? Nah.
Yo, you don't have to UPBLOCK the attack if you're crouch blocking. You just have to STAND to block the overhead. You don't have to use upblock lmao. Fate can't explain what he wants to say about breakers. He left out "mk11 had breakaway as a defensive mechanic when you're in the air". His point makes it sound like he wants to armor in air, but he's just saying you can't do anything to get out of air combos except combo breaker.
he literally hates the game because he isnt good at it. thats literally his entire argument, insane..... i garauntee if he became good at the game (i.e. understood framedata and learned how to do a few 40%-50% combos) he wouldnt complain at all about it... its all 46 year old old man reaction slow reflexes salt.... nothing more... fates arguments sound like my kid brother when i beat him at street fighter... "this game is trash.... its not fair you do so much damage to me and i dont know what to do...i hate it, im never playing this game again!!!! aahhh" ..... im lik bro get good stop crying
Age has nothing to do with reactions. I don't care how young or old you are. You're not reacting to moves that have a start up 17 frames or less with 3 or 3 active frames
@whirlybird268 my guess is you live under a rock if you haven't seen all the talk and videos about how bad it is dummy. I'm definitely not a fate fan either. You probably hate mk11 because you suck at it 😆
COMBOS are too easy, I realised this from the jump. Casual fools shouldn’t be able to do this for free almost or in some cases. Same with kbs in mk11 free damage for no reason, just mash d2 into fatal blow
Used to be a date fan.. but he is just a rinse and repeat… and makes videos to hate on a game he so happily plays…. Sik… we thank you for this… he had it coming
Also he sits there and talks to better players and says things like I understand ok I get it then the next day makes videos going back to all his original points and hurling childish insults.
@@Nonlifting_breezy right… used to respect fate… before he started to attack people.. and then say.. I DONT attack people… I say the truth.. what a load of shit from that man…..
@@bitterindustry not only that but he’s just wrong on so much. Everyone he’s debates with he’s lost to. Mike said it’s a skill issue and it is. Sikander said you bought an assist game and that’s a game he don’t like and then complains about mechanics he don’t understand.
@@Nonlifting_breezy I agree Non… I have seen a pattern in his videos just trashing mk 1… Just to make vidoes.. if he doesn’t like it why make videos about it… it Click bate at its finest….. yeah… fate complains also because he is not good at mk…. He would not admit it…
@@bitterindustry right Mike hollow thinks the game is shit and won’t play it but fate hates the game and continues to play it. It does not matter if you paid money for it. If you buy something and don’t like it you just have to chalk it up and say ok next time I won’t and then stop Playing the game. I don’t play games I don’t like I don’t eat food I don’t like and I don’t date women I don’t like. It can all be applied to a video game as well
2:35:09 This is my main issue with Fate. Dig deeper into the game, he might find it fun. With this much publicity from "PRO" players, telling me to Git Gud - I would learn the game just to make a valid point either way. But fates too lazy or dumb to try.
The reason why people "spam" combos and never use meter at lower levels is because these players doesn't know frame data so they ramdomly press buttons or use unsafe moves so they'll get punished. On higher levels it's hard to open your opponent's defense so it's not the same type of game. If fate at least tried to learn fighting games on a technical level and understand frame data he would understand (maybe) why he gets comboed constantly.
Although fate is cringe and wrong, i think i agree with his biggest issue with the game, its so easy and so entry level to do half health combos in this game. It used to take skill and execution even in mk11 to do high damage combos, in this game I can legit get to minimum 40 my first practice sesh with any character, it used to take time and dedication to earn high damage combos on command. In mk11 I had to work for 40 with noob, the opener had to fully connect, you gotta time dashes, stuff was tight. sub zero didn't get 40 without a Kb or being in the corner. mkx is the same, you had to actually practice a good combo to land it on someone online; now you can pick any character with any kameo and freestyle for half a health bar.
@@sanguinecthulhu6131 i know its not an issue, it never has been for high level players. But I have friends who have never touched mk before picking up the game learning 40% combos in 5 minutes or less, there used to be a bigger skill gap is all im saying.
That's a flat out lie. MK11 you can get a 23% damage just for uppercutting. You don't have to work in any way to get damage in MK11. That game is stupidly easy. All fighters are making it easy to do combos, especially Tekken (T7 and T8 specifically).
@@MaacMaliceMMAThat's what I'm saying. People think that just because you can do a high damage combo that you're good. I have a friend who has a 40%+ combo with Scorpian and Sereana, but it take 3 bars. That's awful!
4:24:51 Pretty much every fate 'debate' I've come across, and learnt nothing from his point of view. You can't save this dude. Can't take his debates seriously neither 5:01:13. In denial too 5:07:50
@@alexis5526 He doesn't have enough numbers to make a living off it. I'm willing to bet he lives off daddy's inheritance money and uses the stream profits as a side hustle while acting superior over someone like ISDD
The only right argument he had was about the other content, apart from good gameplay and a mid story, this game is ASS, 2 base skins with palletes (wtf), Invasions (lol), and u have to play more for skins in this game than actual characters its ridiculous
Fate doesn't answer a tactical question right away cause he googles the correct answer 1st Every podcast this fate lolcow talks abt the same thing, bt everyone explains him then he agrees gets exposed, tries another content creator, repeat
Grandmasters should have no comment on such things. He's complaining about combos because thats literally all grandmasters know how to do. Thats it. They have no defense. They have no strategy. They memorized 3 or 4 fairly large combos, and thats all they do! And he's stuck in that because he's a grandmaster! I hate getting matches with grandmasters, because if they fluke it, I lose twice as much exp. They're literally the most annoying class in Kombat League, because they know just enough to cause real damage if they want to, but not enough to make for an interesting or compelling match. They spam combos. That's it. He is stuck fighting scrubs, so he hates the game. I honestly feel that way about many people who hate MK1. They never found their stride. Its fun AF when you're a God. You see all kinds of wild stuff when you're legit at the game. These people complaining about it aren't that good. Literally.
However, all that said - I don't approve of all the bullying of FATE. This is where TrueUnderDawgGaming greatly surpasses his detractors. He handled FATE best by calling him FEET. He also said some nice things about him. 😊
I personally can’t stand the janky, stiff movement in Tekken. With tiny little jumps 🤷🏻♂️ I don’t know. To each their own I suppose… I was personally upset that I bought Tekken 8 just to find out it’s more like 7.3. Anyway!… interesting conversation. Thanks Sik!
FATE is like "Why Are You Mad Bro" because you want scrubby savior mechanics and you admit you're trash and don't understand the main mechanics to guard against the things that beat you. Being fair Sik is always mad, I've never seen one stream without him getting MAD 💢 He also loses his mind when someone has a different opinion than him, especially on character balance.
Fate makes no sense in his videos has no information or evidence for what he says last time i checked getting hit in a fighting game is normal all a sudden fate says it's not that makes no sense he pretty much saying he don't like fighting games cause he gets hit
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Fate consistently contradicts himself inadvertently.
They both do
@@dmaxbravo_9562when did sik contradict??
@heretickishyt when he tells fate to get good instead of complaining but also complains
@@heretickishyt he says FATE complains too much but he himself said he hates how Stryker and Tanya are used in the game
@@animal1nstinct394 bruv change ur dealer, he's complaining about a character being op, in every fg everyone complains abt metas, well a fatehead like u wouldn't hv a clue, bt fate complains & whines abt everything, even combos, knows nothing abt the game 0skills
MAKE MORTAL KOMBAT GREAT AGAIN.
Fate is literally the biggest back peddler ever wtf is this lmaooooo
@@JustSendMeLocation idk the whole conversation pretty much
No idea who this Sikander cat is but love his energy. Proper mad lad
Not sure if autism or narcissism, but Fate surely has at least one. He cannot read the room AT ALL, Jesus. This was painful at times.
Damn so this fate dude who is constantly FLAMING THE GAME doesn't have a single fucking clue how it works? Lmao
Nope he’s that bad.
I get what Fate is saying and I actually know people who don't really care about modern fighters these days because of how, in their eyes, it became too "crazy" to keep up with. Fate is someone who comes from a time where MK2 and even UMK3 style gameplay was where they felt most comfortable. There were combos but they were quick and easy to remember and even doing things like uppercuts did big damage. These days in just about any long running fighting game you're required to know how to use these various mechanics/systems and pull off tons of combos that take what feels like ten seconds to play out. Guys like Fate are overwhelmed by it all and if they come from the classic era probably feel alienated by everything around them. They can't just do a Scorpion Spear into Uppercut to take off 30% of someone's life anymore, they have to learn ten hit combos and how to call in kameos and learn every character's frames and normals on top of the specials and amplified specials, etc.
Anger issues is real with this kid.
He doesn’t even know what an overhead is lmaoo
I honestly think Fate has some sort of handicap. He can't just be dvumb because at this point he would have already understood that he simply cannot argue with anyone that has a little bit of technical knowledge about fighting games yet he insists in doing so.
the moment we have all been waiting for
This was one of the most life draining and braindead experiences I ever had. Respect to anyone who sat through ALL of this...
Edit: Its obviously because of King of Scrubs aka "Fight All Thy Enemies".
I can’t finish watching it 😂😂😂 it’s too cringe 😬 😂😂😂
3:46:02 FATE should go have a talk with Roger Federer.
“So that’s nice that you won 10 Wimbledons… BUT how would you do against THE BALL MACHINE!?”
Great analogy
@@Nappr it’s crazy to me that he thinks like this!
@@Nappr3:49:02 he also doesn’t understand the difference between *solving the AI and *adapting versus a human.
The AI will never intentionally bait you into doing anything, it just has specific sequences programmed. Humans choose to react in any number of ways and can opt out of predictable patterns on a whim.
omg bro this guy kept yapping, he doesnt get tired god damn
On cheap meth fo sure
He is the best yapper in history if I’m being honest… it’s actually impressive I’m ngl
@@kalyambaba4847it’s sad though when you consider his age
Funniest thing I’ve ever watched 😭 bless you man.
Frekin hilarious. Thought he was gonna give Sik a migraine
Fate committed terrorism to my ears.
Great to see 3 best friends chatting about MK1 . I'd like you guys too do this every week. A really good chat between friends.
mike came in and started spitting facts non stop ngl 😂😂😂
Yeah Mike was on point
He cooked fate as per. You can tell pretty quickly how slow Fate is
@@JustSendMeLocationhis comprehension skills are incredibly bad. He’s not the sharpest tool in the shed
This passive aggression guy likes bare bone videogames like it is the 2nd coming of Christ.
Desync issue has hit the PC version as well after the Khameleon patch.
I used to be like Fate. Then I found sikander. Then I tried to get good and it somehow worked. And you need to live this yourself to get it.
That is what Fate is not doing. It is a legit skill issue, he needs to experience the game and none of this would have happen.
Regardless, thank you Fate you developing in me testicular cancer.
its over for Flopal Kombat ❤
3:58:13 - Hey FATE, tell me you’re racist without telling me you’re racist.
@@MAGA-dq1wjracist undertones >>> silly locker room talk.
@@MAGA-dq1wjYou came to siks channel to defend fate, sounds more like siks “little remarks” are bothering you
Wanting to like a product doesn’t make you a boot licker … this guy is such a waste
"I can hear the fat in your voice" - Sikander
My issue when it comes to gameplay is the weird block stun or what ever that is. When my opponent hits me with a minus attack it’s like my buttons get stuck, they don’t come out. Maybe it’s the timing but it throws me off quite a bit
Go into the lab and practice your reversal timing. That's fundamental to leveling up, practicing counter pokes, reversal Kameos, reversal armor in Gap's.
Go through the characters moves that give you a hard time and find weaknesses like Gap's, bad reach you can walk back or backdash wiff punish, or being -8 to -30 on block or if it's duckable or if it's flawless block punishable or UpBlock PUNISHABLE.
The vast majority of stuff in this game has counters.
For example Kenshi with Sento does F22, Sento 2 over and over, it has a gap in both. Kenshi B2/B12 into any sento has gaps.
Lmao imagine fates wife.. 😭😂
💀
Dude I know. He’s a jobless loser. His wife takes care of him
easily the most miserable woman in the world. The fact that FATE is even partially responsible for teaching a child anything is terrifying.
I do agree when fate said i feel like im fighting the games engine…thats kinda true but it does sound like he just sucks at mortal kombat tbh its not that hard to figure out
Stryker isn't a problem, I have multiple videos up on how to counter Stryker Grenades.
Sub Zero is a great example, Sub's D2 trades with Nades and does 14% and Sub only takes 6% and Sub has 20+ frame advantage.
Do that twice and Stryker on cooldown.
The Stryker player has to gap the Nades after their string for it to OS, meaning it has to be timed after to do a launch when your string into Nades hits, + on block if string and Nades is blocked. It only works that way on a specific timing. They can frame trap so it can't be D2'd but it loses it's strength it's ability to launch.
Kung Lao hat used as HTB is also counterable with Kameos Ambush like Scorpion Kameo Flame, they Set hat and go right into overhead for HTB. You call Scorpion flame right where Lao Hat is set and it knocks the Lao Hat off screen for less than 4% damage taken and let's you Upblock punish the overhead. Doesn't matter if they do overhead to low or low to overhead timing with the overhead it removes the HTB mix completely.
You can also counter Lao hat on reaction with Sub Zero Kameo or Khameleon Jade Glow and do the same thing.
They have to space the overhead and low 4 frames apart because there is HTB Protection that auto blocks 1-3 Frame HTB's
@@JustSendMeLocationyour an idiot. He’s not saying he knows it all he’s saying there are ways to counteract Laos hat and strikers grenades. He doesn’t have to be in a tournament to figure that out. Stop being a smart ass to people in RUclips comments. Especially when they’re just trying to help people.
Fate just make my left ball explode!.. I don’t know how they wereable to survive this.
This was an awesome moment first time seeing these two discuss. “Scrap”, “Visual Player” among other terms coined by Fate, have become wildly hilarious in the larger MK community. I have my own nitpicks with MK1 but enjoy the game otherwise I would leave it alone. The point Sikander made to Fate is valid. Why waste all your time with MK1 if you hate it that much? I agree those who hate it, and don’t understand the mechanics… why should they have a voice in the direction of anything? Like anything in life… example if you hate a specific job. Either you put up with it or you find something else. You don’t spend the next months or years making hundreds of videos, I hate my job and this and that. 💯
Fate is headache-inducing. My goodness...
It is a problem not knowing what an overhead is...Cmon Fate your whole arguement is mute now.
5 hours is insane
5 hours and 19 mins,wow fate yaps a lot lol.
Before I clicked this video I was expecting a short call lol
FATE. "you literally tell people to go to practice mode!"
Hollow. "Yeah, practice mode is where you go to learn about the game mechanics, not fight the AI."
FATE. "no".
also FATE: *instantly recommends a video telling people to go practice mode to fight against the AI*
Sik you’re clearly the best MK content creator! Loved this stream 🫡 Fate needs help lol
Sik would you do a beef set with him for money?
I liked krushing blows but the problem was it wasn’t equal across the board for characters and guessing wrong on throws lead to at the least 21 percent and more for other characters. Krushing blows should’ve always been the whiff or crush counters and pokes not being punishable on block was also terrible.
Lmaooooo just notice the thumbnail! That shits gold! 😂
2:42:37 fate if you see this, do you not realize ppl who play this game at a high, pro, competitive lvl doing big combos, they are having fun. Learning about the game is fun for them. But your saying that your uniformed knowledge, opinion, and skill of the game brings you no joy, fun or entertainment. So all you have to do is become more knowledgeable to have more fun. Problem solved. And also, if the 'competitive' player is having fun for actual learning and playing the game, why are you saying there in the wrong if there having fun?
It’s fine to be a casual, the difference is that if you don’t learn and study the gameplay you have no right to complain about the gameplay. This Fate guy’s logic doesn’t make any sense, idk how Sik and Mike sat through all that blabbering.
Right.
As a contrast, when MK Tom Brady complains about game mechanics, it’s after he has studied the ins, outs, and counter options across multiple characters in training mode, so he can actually speak with authority based on tangible experiences he can recreate and demonstrate.
Fate’s over here not able to figure out how to do a 4-hit combo, use his kameo or even turn off the Release Check option 😂
Sik about to fucking pop a blood vessel at the beginning with that remote in his hand
I'm sorry, but MK1 IS shit. I literally sold it today on EBAY. Screw NRS. SF6 is an actual fighting game not a fucking mario party game like MK1. Made by competent devs. NRS has NO CLUE how to make fighting games. PERIOD. Dont get wrong I love watching Sik. Hes funny as hell and good at MK. But I watch him for the entertainment not the game. It's objectively bad.
I swear on my LIFE THIS IS THE BEST YAPPER IN HISTORY😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭…. Man become a politician or something damn…
Omg Sik is hilarious! And I loved how at times you could hear Mike laughing in the background at Siks insults toward Fate 😂😂
Suk a dik has me on the floor da way he pronounce it lolol
Mike?
@@xerospades Mike Hollow. He’s the other guy on the call with Fate and Sikander
Terrible watch, cringed so hard my jaw broke listening to Fate.
10/10 Ty sik
Had to stop midway into this "debate" because it went absolutely no where. It's no wonder the MK community is getting clowned on by other FGCs. Plus, didn't Sikk called out NRS for that BS overhead into a frozen Tanya? Now he's throwing shit at the wrong person while NRS gets away with a broken game? Keep fighting amongst yourselves, I'm sure MK1 will get better...
Sik isnt arguing that the game isnt broken though, he knows that we all know that. Fates problem, and siks argument is that the gameplay and its mechanics are good but obviously needs tweaks and he’s said that multiple times. On the other hand fate believes the game play and mechanics even if they weren’t buggy are bad and thats not the case its almost universally agreed that GAMEPLAY WISE this is one of the best mortal kombat games in that aspect. Fate simply isnt having fun with the gameplay and thinks its bad because he cant play it and he sucks and refuses to learn. The man literally doesn’t do combos past 4 or 5 hits and calls anyone else doing them to him cheaters so yeah this lil “gotcha” moment you thought you had isnt gonna work here, Sik didnt contradict himself by saying that you just didnt listen.
Sik complains about bugs that need to be fixed and balancing sometimes. Fate complains about the gameplay that he doesn’t understand when he could literally fix that by taking his ass to the games practice mode. Nobody is arguing that WBs practices arent shitty, the lack of content or the game being released unfinished which again nobody is arguing. people are only arguing with fate because he criticizes the gameplay and doesn’t even understand it.
Fate also didn’t like mkx or mk11 so he bought 3 mk games thinking it would be jump kick spear uppercut
@@AJ_A1best gameplay wise? Lol everyone complains about cameos or wishes they werent in the game. Or how air strings/combos dont belong in the game. Or how unbalanced the characters are, or how a lot of characters like sub zero or scorpion feel completly different.
nrs and mortal kombat fanboys are funny to observe.
@@Yalbou you: “game too hard, game bad”
also you(fate fanboy): “everybody who like gameplay also bad, bad man like gameplay” foh😂😂
Just notice you are a big Halloween movie fan. Awesome ! Me too.
That chair is 🔥
Thumbnail for this vid is perfect!
3:40:00 was a valuable piece of information its the australian bubble Fate cant play online and face enough opponents the matchmaking is not in his favour as player numbers are already low and that part ofthe world cant connect to others so i cant blame him for that he has had limited exposure to the human competitive side of the games.
How do you not have grey hair yet sik 😢 this was painful to listen to. 🗿
I'm watching this back and I really wish I was on call with you LOL. I both see what your saying and what he's saying and I'm also noticing that when he is explaining his opinions on his issues with the combat system defensive wise from what I'm hearing he's saying that he has a issue with the fact that it takes three bars to do a breaker and because of how long you can be caught up in a combo it should take less then three bars to get out of it plus that same meter you use to get out of a combo you use as a special enhancer. So to fix his issue with that is to either have a separate meter for the breaker or to make it require less which he said in the video to break out of the combos but from what I was hearing him say having a separate meter wouldn't be enough because he would along with others would still complain about it taking all three bars to break out of combos. Content wise outside of online yeah of course they could have added more along with content that would be included online like for starters a mode without Kameos or a tag mode instead of Kameos to where you can switch between two characters and use a assist from your other character your not using at the moment and be able to do longer combos which of course the game already has it built in to be able to break out of combos if you really needed to. I didn't say what you where saying because you know what you where saying 100% and you wasn't wrong. People might misinterpret what your saying as a harsh opinion but your not wrong realistically having these issues is a skill issue. If your dealing with these issues in the game from what I been seeing from you and others that you need to take the time to learn and most of the time what your doing wrong in the game to get better at it. If your going to complain about you having issues with others doing longer combos to you then you can do them then you need to take the time and learn how to do them yourself and learn how to avoid getting hit by them. At times it's going to take you learning all aspects of the offensive and defensive system to do that. This doesn't just apply in Mortal Kombat 1 this applies in many others and many others don't have a way to break out of combos in the air the way Mortal Kombat does.
Fate is right, NRS have no history with "assist" mechanics. And if MK was a SPINOFF of the series it will be okay, but kameos and air combos in the main series???? Nah.
Air combos was introduced into 3d era of mk games
Yo, you don't have to UPBLOCK the attack if you're crouch blocking. You just have to STAND to block the overhead. You don't have to use upblock lmao. Fate can't explain what he wants to say about breakers. He left out "mk11 had breakaway as a defensive mechanic when you're in the air". His point makes it sound like he wants to armor in air, but he's just saying you can't do anything to get out of air combos except combo breaker.
How the effing hell did you manage 5 hours of this. Credit to you both.
cant spell fate without fat. so theres that
What's that got to do with anything? Lol
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I love your approach Sik 👏🤣 can’t stand anyone that makes a living off of whining…
it really doesn't matter how little the guy knows or doesn't know.
mk1 is still complete trash Sik lmfaoo I'm sorry
Yeah fate he's playing against the ai mike is 100 percent right 💯
I bet he plays on the easiest setting lol
he literally hates the game because he isnt good at it. thats literally his entire argument, insane..... i garauntee if he became good at the game (i.e. understood framedata and learned how to do a few 40%-50% combos) he wouldnt complain at all about it... its all 46 year old old man reaction slow reflexes salt.... nothing more... fates arguments sound like my kid brother when i beat him at street fighter... "this game is trash.... its not fair you do so much damage to me and i dont know what to do...i hate it, im never playing this game again!!!! aahhh" ..... im lik bro get good stop crying
exactly if he got good he wouldnt complain at all
The game is trash tho
Age has nothing to do with reactions. I don't care how young or old you are. You're not reacting to moves that have a start up 17 frames or less with 3 or 3 active frames
@whirlybird268 my guess is you live under a rock if you haven't seen all the talk and videos about how bad it is dummy. I'm definitely not a fate fan either. You probably hate mk11 because you suck at it 😆
@whirlybird268 this game being trash is all over yt and even actual pros are complaining about it. You just wanna act dumb
COMBOS are too easy, I realised this from the jump. Casual fools shouldn’t be able to do this for free almost or in some cases. Same with kbs in mk11 free damage for no reason, just mash d2 into fatal blow
Youre too angry Sikander. Calm down before you stroke out.
Used to be a date fan.. but he is just a rinse and repeat… and makes videos to hate on a game he so happily plays…. Sik… we thank you for this… he had it coming
Also he sits there and talks to better players and says things like I understand ok I get it then the next day makes videos going back to all his original points and hurling childish insults.
@@Nonlifting_breezy right… used to respect fate… before he started to attack people.. and then say.. I DONT attack people… I say the truth.. what a load of shit from that man…..
@@bitterindustry not only that but he’s just wrong on so much. Everyone he’s debates with he’s lost to. Mike said it’s a skill issue and it is. Sikander said you bought an assist game and that’s a game he don’t like and then complains about mechanics he don’t understand.
@@Nonlifting_breezy I agree Non… I have seen a pattern in his videos just trashing mk 1… Just to make vidoes.. if he doesn’t like it why make videos about it… it Click bate at its finest….. yeah… fate complains also because he is not good at mk…. He would not admit it…
@@bitterindustry right Mike hollow thinks the game is shit and won’t play it but fate hates the game and continues to play it. It does not matter if you paid money for it. If you buy something and don’t like it you just have to chalk it up and say ok next time I won’t and then stop
Playing the game. I don’t play games I don’t like I don’t eat food I don’t like and I don’t date women I don’t like. It can all be applied to a video game as well
4:24:41 Greatest moment in gaming a true grandmaster.
But what is an overhead tho 😂
The thumbnail is so funny
2:35:09 This is my main issue with Fate. Dig deeper into the game, he might find it fun. With this much publicity from "PRO" players, telling me to Git Gud - I would learn the game just to make a valid point either way. But fates too lazy or dumb to try.
The girls are fighting😂
The reason why people "spam" combos and never use meter at lower levels is because these players doesn't know frame data so they ramdomly press buttons or use unsafe moves so they'll get punished. On higher levels it's hard to open your opponent's defense so it's not the same type of game. If fate at least tried to learn fighting games on a technical level and understand frame data he would understand (maybe) why he gets comboed constantly.
My brain hurts
Although fate is cringe and wrong, i think i agree with his biggest issue with the game, its so easy and so entry level to do half health combos in this game. It used to take skill and execution even in mk11 to do high damage combos, in this game I can legit get to minimum 40 my first practice sesh with any character, it used to take time and dedication to earn high damage combos on command. In mk11 I had to work for 40 with noob, the opener had to fully connect, you gotta time dashes, stuff was tight. sub zero didn't get 40 without a Kb or being in the corner. mkx is the same, you had to actually practice a good combo to land it on someone online; now you can pick any character with any kameo and freestyle for half a health bar.
combo damage is not even an issue tbh just dont get punished simple really.
@@sanguinecthulhu6131 i know its not an issue, it never has been for high level players. But I have friends who have never touched mk before picking up the game learning 40% combos in 5 minutes or less, there used to be a bigger skill gap is all im saying.
That's a flat out lie. MK11 you can get a 23% damage just for uppercutting. You don't have to work in any way to get damage in MK11. That game is stupidly easy.
All fighters are making it easy to do combos, especially Tekken (T7 and T8 specifically).
@@TheCaptainhowdy11 For real how can OP say MK11 of all games was easier to do combos lol
@@MaacMaliceMMAThat's what I'm saying. People think that just because you can do a high damage combo that you're good. I have a friend who has a 40%+ combo with Scorpian and Sereana, but it take 3 bars. That's awful!
4:24:51 Pretty much every fate 'debate' I've come across, and learnt nothing from his point of view. You can't save this dude. Can't take his debates seriously neither 5:01:13. In denial too
5:07:50
Bunch of grown jobless individuals talking about a game does not matter in the grand scheme of things 😂
FATE has a job and a son
@@alexis5526 He doesn't have enough numbers to make a living off it. I'm willing to bet he lives off daddy's inheritance money and uses the stream profits as a side hustle while acting superior over someone like ISDD
Yet here you are 😂😂
@@animal1nstinct394 I feel sorry for the kid, he's gonna grow up with insecurities if Fate is the same father as a debater
@@zalybrainlessgenius503 because he doesnt like MK1 somehow that effect his fathering skills? MK1 flopped. thats not FATEs fault
The only right argument he had was about the other content, apart from good gameplay and a mid story, this game is ASS, 2 base skins with palletes (wtf), Invasions (lol), and u have to play more for skins in this game than actual characters its ridiculous
Fate doesn't answer a tactical question right away cause he googles the correct answer 1st
Every podcast this fate lolcow talks abt the same thing, bt everyone explains him then he agrees gets exposed, tries another content creator, repeat
Grandmasters should have no comment on such things. He's complaining about combos because thats literally all grandmasters know how to do. Thats it. They have no defense. They have no strategy. They memorized 3 or 4 fairly large combos, and thats all they do! And he's stuck in that because he's a grandmaster! I hate getting matches with grandmasters, because if they fluke it, I lose twice as much exp. They're literally the most annoying class in Kombat League, because they know just enough to cause real damage if they want to, but not enough to make for an interesting or compelling match. They spam combos. That's it.
He is stuck fighting scrubs, so he hates the game.
I honestly feel that way about many people who hate MK1. They never found their stride. Its fun AF when you're a God. You see all kinds of wild stuff when you're legit at the game. These people complaining about it aren't that good. Literally.
don't delete my comment mod! you want some??!
Fate puts so much time into mk1 for not liking it. How am I just now seeing this. Hilarious
But in all honesty. F 5 arkin
If he took a fraction of the time to learn a basic combo he wouldn’t complain so much about them
This is WILD
However, all that said - I don't approve of all the bullying of FATE. This is where TrueUnderDawgGaming greatly surpasses his detractors. He handled FATE best by calling him FEET. He also said some nice things about him. 😊
I personally can’t stand the janky, stiff movement in Tekken. With tiny little jumps 🤷🏻♂️ I don’t know. To each their own I suppose… I was personally upset that I bought Tekken 8 just to find out it’s more like 7.3. Anyway!… interesting conversation. Thanks Sik!
Fat all thy enemies that should be fate new name
hes thinks his opinion is fact. this guy is delusional. seek help.
FATE is like "Why Are You Mad Bro" because you want scrubby savior mechanics and you admit you're trash and don't understand the main mechanics to guard against the things that beat you.
Being fair Sik is always mad, I've never seen one stream without him getting MAD 💢
He also loses his mind when someone has a different opinion than him, especially on character balance.
fun is subjective to person to person. if he doesn't like the game, don't play it.
People like fate are thick
Fate makes no sense in his videos has no information or evidence for what he says last time i checked getting hit in a fighting game is normal all a sudden fate says it's not that makes no sense he pretty much saying he don't like fighting games cause he gets hit
Hi Sikander :) ❤
The game is bad obviously 😂
Sik what up lil bro 😎
What a podcast lmao.
Good video
He’s not 45-46 y/o, he sounds like he’s in his late 20’s
It’s just that he hasn’t grown up
@@Nonlifting_breezy that’s life, get over it
@@nguyenn99527he’s 46
he's 40-41
@@animal1nstinct394 fate is 46
Queen of England ?
he is also so negative to the mortal kombat franchise. his whole career is mortal kombat and he dislikes everything about the game
Sikander's argument is "I agree with everything you say but you dont have a position to talk about gameplay"
Just gonna leave that there
This was great lol.
😂😂😂😂 mk 1 is joke tekken is thousand times better