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Hi, I recently got the Marantz M1, and I'm coming from Bluesound Powernode 2 i, and Nad 3045. With the same speakers (NHT 1.1), of course in the same context the M1 was the best overall, wide soundstage, warm and detailed sound so much that it doesn't even seem like a class D. The other 2 sound much flatter, with a decidedly narrower soundstage. This is my opinion, obviously.
I have the q150, ls50 meta n lrs+… do you think it plays well on the lrs??? That requires me so much power and a subwoofer. I do think i prefer cutting subs out to handle all the bass even though my rels n others say the blending is better
Great review. I like the M1 but for $1K I would like to have 2 independent sub outs and a remote, to justify the price a little more over the cheaper amps it is competing with. And bravo for "Made in Japan" need more of this!
Great review! I love your Italian accent :) Would you think the M1 is overpowered and a good fit for the Project Speakerbox V2s? I am planning to buy a REL Tzero MKIII with it.
@@MrOliver1444 ok now, I didn’t test this combination but box 5 s2 is a neutral speaker and should work well with the M1 despite not having the need for all this power! Take a look also of Musica Fidelity A1, with Box 5 S2 are magic. But is another category of price and setup!
@@tobymaggs3981 thx, unfortunately i had the M1 just for a couple of weeks, just in time to complete all my test, before have to send it back to Marantz!
@@MadAudiofficial Are you sure? Marantz has a filter 1 and filter 2 on many of their products and those are never user based. They have to do with attack and smoothness
I agree 100%. If all the streaming crap is what you care about (I use Airplay for everything anyway), well then get the WiiM. But if you care about sound quality, get the M1. I would get the M1 and feed a WiiM mini into it if needed.
Thank you for a good and thorough review. I currently have Focal Chora 826 speakers and they, as you probably know, have a bright soundstage. Do you consider the M1 a better purchase than the Audiolab 7000A? Or will the M1 be too bright for my speakers?
@@patos6619 M1 is not supposed to be bright but instead very extended and detailed, so is not for those are looking for something more warm. BTW 7000a is warm on bottom but also emphasising a little bit top end so be careful!
@@m4nc1n1 I'm a bit skeptical. I'd bet that the new WiiM Ultra Streamer with iOS compatible room correction software @ $319. feeding a pair of Q Acoustics M20 Active Speakers @ $499. connected to a Kanto Sub 8 @ $269. would in a smaller room, blow away the Model M1. That's a total Equip. MSRP of$1,087... In a medium to larger room, I'd substitute the new Triangle BRO3 Actives @ $699. for the Q M20 actives an increase of $200. in both cases less $$$$ than the Model M1 connected to speakers of comparable fidelity.
Hi Mad Audio! Thanks for the great review! I have a question about my current setup, which consists of a Wiim PRO streaming via coaxial to a Geshelli Labs DAC, connected by RCA to a NAD C328 (50W) that powers a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 12.3 speakers. I’m only using the NAD for amplification and volume control, leaving its other features (DAC, Phono in, and additional inputs) unused. The Marantz M1 caught my eye as a potential replacement of the NAD due to its HDMI ARC/eARC capabilities and features that could enhance the cinematic experience (like virtual mode and Dolby decoding). My concern, however, is that the M1 seems to convert even analog signals from the RCA input to digital. My goal was to keep my Wiim + Geshelli DAC setup for serious music listening while using the M1 for movies and series from TV via HDMI ARC. I'm worried that the analog-to-digital conversion in the M1 might alter the sound signature I’ve achieved with the Geshelli Labs DAC, which I’m very pleased with. Do you have any suggestions? Would this upgrade be worth it?
@@MadAudiofficialnot yet, I really want a classic look like the Wharfdale Lintons and was looking for something like the M1 to match it. I only use an iPad and iPhone for my source. I haven’t had a hifi or stereo for about 15 years and lost my love for music, now trying to find it again. The shop recommended Yamaha N1000A….. THANKS
Is Tidal available on release? I am interested in the M1, and I am sure it is quite a lot better than the WiiM which is a fairly low bar. Looking in to the WiiM I can't put it on any list. If the pro has the same amp, I would be skeptical to any improvements. The M1 though at $1500 CDN must pack a lot considering there are few physical controls/inputs/outputs. Specs look relatively good. I look forward to hearing more about it.
@@jefflabute2946 Wiim is even closer in sound quality at the moment, we will see with the future wiim amp pro! Yes you have Tidal in Heos and Tidal connect is coming soon!
@@MadAudiofficial Thanks. I saw a review for the WiiM that demonstrated it's poor channel separation. I was not impressed with it based on that, although the Texas Instruments amp has great specs otherwise.
@@Left-is-right-8192 I saw, and that is good news! I was told in an email a few days back that it wasn't on the map (??) haha. But I see it available under HEOS FW.
@@Left-is-right-8192 What do you think? If two devices had a great price, the Cambridge EVO75 on sale, or the Marantz M1... what ought I pick? I could go either way, but I don't know if this is a no brainer selection or not.
Which will sound better for tv and movies? M1 + ker r3 meta plus subwoofer in M1's Virtual mode, or Marantz cinema 60 in 3.1 configuration with r3 meta and R2 meta centre channel, please?
Question: Does the M1 completely break if wifi is down? Like, am i going to have to get up from my spot and touch to get back function? I really like the Denon home amp that doesn't even have any touch functions. it just feels like these companies are creating problems just to push an agenda.
Not a fair assessment of the rotel A11 it’s only 50watts per channel A14mkii would have veiled better results. But I get it if you’re doing it at a price point.
@@MadAudiofficial open sound, very bright tweeter, the mid range is very detailed, the lows are light (sometimes too light). Perfect for jazz, bossa nova, Diana krall, most of dire straits.
@@Tolga819 To be honest, I’ll wait until we know what’s going on with Masimo Consumer. They are no longer responding to any emails, and the person who was responsible for Europe is no longer working with them!
amp pro improved SnR and DAC but has the same amp chip. Think the M1 would be better suited for power hungry speakers or larger rooms. Wiim Amp pro would be great for desktop and small rooms.
Sounds tempting, but I know that ultimately I'm going to hate not having a remote control so unfortunately have to rule it out without even listening to it.
I would have the comfort of using it as a fantastic streaming dac down the road, if I wanted to use tube amp (for example), or just more powerful amplification. Would have been easy enough for Marantz to include this and it would have really rounded out the feature set and the value proposition, for me.
@@declanwalsh1682 Fair enough, although for like $120, you have an awesome streamer with Wiim pro, or like Eversolo if you want the DAC also. You're right, standard pre-outs would have been nice, though sound united (Denon/Marantz) often seem to be allergic to pre-outs on their 2 channel amps. Never understood why.
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Hi,
I recently got the Marantz M1, and I'm coming from Bluesound Powernode 2 i, and Nad 3045.
With the same speakers (NHT 1.1), of course in the same context the M1 was the best overall, wide soundstage, warm and detailed sound so much that it doesn't even seem like a class D.
The other 2 sound much flatter, with a decidedly narrower soundstage.
This is my opinion, obviously.
@@fubigabri Is not only your opinion, enjoy it and thx for sharing 👍🏽
THANK YOU for trying it on the LRS+, I'm going to be doing the following setup = Fluance RT85 + Magnepan LRS+ + Marantz Model M1.
@@MrMyYoyo just let us know when you get it👍🏽
I have the q150, ls50 meta n lrs+… do you think it plays well on the lrs??? That requires me so much power and a subwoofer. I do think i prefer cutting subs out to handle all the bass even though my rels n others say the blending is better
Fantastic amp,i think i gonna buy one to my other room,you got my sub,greetings from UK👍🏴
@@Adrianek81 Thank You for the support, hope you enjoy the channel and the community, just let us know your thoughts as soon you get one 👍🏽
@@MadAudiofficial ok i will,have a great day✌️
Great review.
I like the M1 but for $1K I would like to have 2 independent sub outs and a remote, to justify the price a little more over the cheaper amps it is competing with.
And bravo for "Made in Japan" need more of this!
Thank you for sharing this👍🏽
Bella recensione amico. Bravo 👌
Grazie👍🏽
Great review! I love your Italian accent :)
Would you think the M1 is overpowered and a good fit for the Project Speakerbox V2s? I am planning to buy a REL Tzero MKIII with it.
@@MrOliver1444 Thank u very much, i am not sure about which speaker are you referring, v2s?
@@MadAudiofficial Pro-Ject Box 5 S2
@@MrOliver1444 ok now, I didn’t test this combination but box 5 s2 is a neutral speaker and should work well with the M1 despite not having the need for all this power! Take a look also of Musica Fidelity A1, with Box 5 S2 are magic. But is another category of price and setup!
@@MadAudiofficial thank you for that
@@MadAudiofficial Hey yes. The Musica Fidelity A1 is a bit out of my price range and I use it for music and movies. :)
So this should be a really good match for the ELAC DBR62s bookshelves. I think I’m sold on the M1.
Great review can you do a sound test , so we can hear them side by side
@@tobymaggs3981 thx, unfortunately i had the M1 just for a couple of weeks, just in time to complete all my test, before have to send it back to Marantz!
i see marantz and audiolab in backround...sir you have a nice taste in electronics^^
@@apollon755 hope not or we will lose this hobby forever, at least on affordable gears!
Great review. What is the difference between Digital Filter 1 and Digital Filter 2?
@@seniorbaka thx, this are only presets, so you can create 2 different EQ settings!
@@MadAudiofficial Are you sure? Marantz has a filter 1 and filter 2 on many of their products and those are never user based. They have to do with attack and smoothness
I agree 100%. If all the streaming crap is what you care about (I use Airplay for everything anyway), well then get the WiiM. But if you care about sound quality, get the M1. I would get the M1 and feed a WiiM mini into it if needed.
Thank you for a good and thorough review. I currently have Focal Chora 826 speakers and they, as you probably know, have a bright soundstage. Do you consider the M1 a better purchase than the Audiolab 7000A? Or will the M1 be too bright for my speakers?
@@patos6619 M1 is not supposed to be bright but instead very extended and detailed, so is not for those are looking for something more warm. BTW 7000a is warm on bottom but also emphasising a little bit top end so be careful!
At $1000. the M1 should sound way better than the WiiM.
@@geoffreydebrito2653 it is! Just test it and let me know✌🏽
Sure does
@@m4nc1n1 I'm a bit skeptical. I'd bet that the new WiiM Ultra Streamer with iOS compatible room correction software @ $319. feeding a pair of Q Acoustics M20 Active Speakers @ $499. connected to a Kanto Sub 8 @ $269. would in a smaller room, blow away the Model M1. That's a total Equip. MSRP of$1,087... In a medium to larger room, I'd substitute the new Triangle BRO3 Actives @ $699. for the Q M20 actives an increase of $200. in both cases less $$$$ than the Model M1 connected to speakers of comparable fidelity.
It sounds WAAY better than the WiiM amp. I’m incredibly impressed.
@@Left-is-right-8192 Thank you for sharing this!
Hi Mad Audio! Thanks for the great review!
I have a question about my current setup, which consists of a Wiim PRO streaming via coaxial to a Geshelli Labs DAC, connected by RCA to a NAD C328 (50W) that powers a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 12.3 speakers. I’m only using the NAD for amplification and volume control, leaving its other features (DAC, Phono in, and additional inputs) unused.
The Marantz M1 caught my eye as a potential replacement of the NAD due to its HDMI ARC/eARC capabilities and features that could enhance the cinematic experience (like virtual mode and Dolby decoding). My concern, however, is that the M1 seems to convert even analog signals from the RCA input to digital.
My goal was to keep my Wiim + Geshelli DAC setup for serious music listening while using the M1 for movies and series from TV via HDMI ARC. I'm worried that the analog-to-digital conversion in the M1 might alter the sound signature I’ve achieved with the Geshelli Labs DAC, which I’m very pleased with.
Do you have any suggestions? Would this upgrade be worth it?
@@agustinpaz1530 thx, maybe you can take in consideration an integrated amp with HDMI like Audiolab for example!
Nice! What tablet are you using? What size.
Thx 👍 Have you compared the Marantz M1 with the Cyrus One Cast?
Great video. Do you think the M1 would be a good match for Wharfdale Linton speakers?
@@HAL-vu8ef Do you have already the Linton? And if yes what you are using to drive them?
@@MadAudiofficialnot yet, I really want a classic look like the Wharfdale Lintons and was looking for something like the M1 to match it. I only use an iPad and iPhone for my source. I haven’t had a hifi or stereo for about 15 years and lost my love for music, now trying to find it again. The shop recommended Yamaha N1000A….. THANKS
@@HAL-vu8ef Yamaha is doing also excellent products, but N1000A is more expensive and will require more space!
Hi
What is a sound difference between Marantz M1 vs Denon home amp ?
Is Tidal available on release? I am interested in the M1, and I am sure it is quite a lot better than the WiiM which is a fairly low bar. Looking in to the WiiM I can't put it on any list. If the pro has the same amp, I would be skeptical to any improvements. The M1 though at $1500 CDN must pack a lot considering there are few physical controls/inputs/outputs. Specs look relatively good. I look forward to hearing more about it.
@@jefflabute2946 Wiim is even closer in sound quality at the moment, we will see with the future wiim amp pro! Yes you have Tidal in Heos and Tidal connect is coming soon!
@@MadAudiofficial Thanks. I saw a review for the WiiM that demonstrated it's poor channel separation. I was not impressed with it based on that, although the Texas Instruments amp has great specs otherwise.
Tidal connect dropped on it today :)
@@Left-is-right-8192 I saw, and that is good news! I was told in an email a few days back that it wasn't on the map (??) haha. But I see it available under HEOS FW.
@@Left-is-right-8192 What do you think? If two devices had a great price, the Cambridge EVO75 on sale, or the Marantz M1... what ought I pick? I could go either way, but I don't know if this is a no brainer selection or not.
I think this would sound nice with my setup: Wharfedale Diamond 12.1 speakers + SVS SB-1000pro.
@@tessie4204 if you have the chance to test it, please let us know👍🏽
Which will sound better for tv and movies? M1 + ker r3 meta plus subwoofer in M1's Virtual mode, or Marantz cinema 60 in 3.1 configuration with r3 meta and R2 meta centre channel, please?
@@claudiutoader5938 cinema 60 is for sure a more sophisticated system that will give you also the possibility to make a room correction!
@@MadAudiofficialthank you.
So, is the M1 and Svs Ultra evolution bookshelf a good combination?
Question: Does the M1 completely break if wifi is down? Like, am i going to have to get up from my spot and touch to get back function? I really like the Denon home amp that doesn't even have any touch functions. it just feels like these companies are creating problems just to push an agenda.
Not a fair assessment of the rotel A11 it’s only 50watts per channel A14mkii would have veiled better results. But I get it if you’re doing it at a price point.
@@shaunrichards744 yes was a comparison under 1 grand👍🏽
Thankyou
@@MadAudiofficial
Looking for a new amp for my ONKYO D66RX speakers, do you think it might fit?
@@alexkn3999 please describe a little bit the sound of this Onkyo for me, thx!
@@MadAudiofficial
open sound, very bright tweeter, the mid range is very detailed, the lows are light (sometimes too light).
Perfect for jazz, bossa nova, Diana krall, most of dire straits.
Marantz M1 be better for TV sound in 2.1 Setup as it has
HDMI eArc
Subwoofer Crossover Settings,
Dolby Digital Plus,
Dialogue Enhancer
Would Marantz M1 be an upgrade over Rega IO, sound quality-wise?
@@Tolga819 To be honest, I’ll wait until we know what’s going on with Masimo Consumer. They are no longer responding to any emails, and the person who was responsible for Europe is no longer working with them!
Wiim amp pro is soon to be released though...
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh yes but when, will see!
@@MadAudiofficial according to wiim's anouncements/ statements it would be during 3rd quarter so it shouldn't take long.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh as far i remember I only saw the WiiM Ultra at the High End Munich show this year, will see for sure i try to get one to test it!
amp pro improved SnR and DAC but has the same amp chip. Think the M1 would be better suited for power hungry speakers or larger rooms. Wiim Amp pro would be great for desktop and small rooms.
@@jeffreyrecord3108 any info about the release date?
Anyone know if the M1 and MA Bronze 200 speakers would be a good match? Also considering the Dali Oberon 5’s
Sounds tempting, but I know that ultimately I'm going to hate not having a remote control so unfortunately have to rule it out without even listening to it.
@@d.s.6268 yes I don’t understand the choice to not give one, at least should be optional like Eversolo!
@@MadAudiofficial Guess I'll have to wait for the 2.0... Thanks for a great review though !
@@d.s.6268 thx for watching 👍🏽
Pre-outs sorely missing. Otherwise very nice looking piece!
@@declanwalsh1682 what would you like to do with pre-outs?
They have sub out, and you can always use speaker level inputs on entry level subs, which is probably what this would pair with.
I would have the comfort of using it as a fantastic streaming dac down the road, if I wanted to use tube amp (for example), or just more powerful amplification. Would have been easy enough for Marantz to include this and it would have really rounded out the feature set and the value proposition, for me.
@@declanwalsh1682 Fair enough, although for like $120, you have an awesome streamer with Wiim pro, or like Eversolo if you want the DAC also. You're right, standard pre-outs would have been nice, though sound united (Denon/Marantz) often seem to be allergic to pre-outs on their 2 channel amps. Never understood why.
@@declanwalsh1682 is designed for different purposes, make no sense to spend 1 grand and use it as preamp IMO!
Bluesound Powernode is a little bit better...
Sound quality speaking or something else? Thx
Seriously? For that price you should compare it to something like eversolo dmp-a6 or a8
@@nevgeniev please check the second review in comparison also with the Bluesound Powernode! Thx
TURN THE SUBTITLES ON FOR A BIT OF CHEER. "So you will not need an external Duck" lol bugger, I wanted to buy the duck. 😆😰
What a knob head you are. 😂
Partial to BS app interface 😮
So I'd look for a NAD amplifier
@@CarlVanDoren61 comparison with Blusound is coming also really soon, stay tuned!
Phono stage on such system? Wtf??
I do not agree.
You don’t have to, but please at least tell us about what you’re referring to.thx
no answer ? well... I unsubscribe
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