TheDreamerPlayz A bottleneck can be explained like this: If you have a Core 2 Quad (Very old and low performance processor) paired with a 2080ti, the Core 2 Quad will be too old and low-performance for the 2080ti. This means that the CPU will eventually cap out on usage and the RTX 2080ti will suffer. The ‘bottleneck’ is when the CPU begins to hinder the performance of the 2080ti.
"Don't look at the fire." Never have those words sounded so true when it comes to compensating for your struggling pc. That along with "Don't look at the sun..."
I also think your RAM is bottlenecking due to the fact that it's DDR2. I had a 9650 at 3 gh with 8gb of ddr3 clocked at 1066 mhz and played bf1 with some great frametimes.
Please I'm begging you for better RAM, this series is genius! It's so much fun :D I'd love to see more poorly matched systems e.g. an IDE hard drive matched with a comparitively super fast system. Maybe try editing on the 9900k with the minimum amount of slowest DDR4 RAM you can find and so on :D
Ah yes. I got a friend who used to have a Core 2 Quad Q6600 machine laying around. All it needed was some upgrades and a nice GPU. Threw a GTX1050 in that and that machine ran pretty good. The only main reason it was replaced later on is because the machine developed a motherboard failure. But it had its time.
I paired my old 9800GTX+ with a Xeon E52618L and 32GB of ram. GTA V ran~kinda. ~30ish fps all kinds of spikes and dips. If you just stayed at in a city's block area it wasn't bad, onece you started driving long distances it would choke the game to a seconds pause to dump the Vram and continue and try to keep up
Me too man! q6600 but with p5qc motherboard. At the moment i have a gt610 but i'm gonna upgrade it to a 1050ti and will be the best days of my life HAHAHA
I just did this same test exept with core 2 quad q8300 and a 1080ti strix, and it did a lot better. My ram is 1066mhz ddr2 though. You should definitely re test with faster ram. Results are dramatically different
I heard that disabling windows defender/other windows tasks really cuts cpu usage on lower end processors and helps speed up the other processes like games(Im not sure if it works tho). Its a possible video idea with the low end hardware you keep using.
I have to say that these core 2 quads still have some life left in them, overclocked they are not bad chips, if you want a cheap starter build, not a bad option! I bought a mobo/cpu combo for 15 euro (core 2 quad q9450), i used it to play older games from the nineties, paired with a gt 1030, it is good enough for what i use it for, offcourse i have a modern rig as well, but still, i enjoy my c2q!
It doesn't take that off the CPU as much as load down the GPU enough to bring it down closer to the CPU's max FPS. However, it still doesn't matter if the CPU is still too slow.
Finally I waited so much to see how bad CPU bottleneck was for ray tracing, run RTX with an i5 8400 next please Brett, I have an RTX 2080 with an i5 8400 (temporary), I want to see how bad the bottleneck is before I buy bfv for $60
Some of my friends are still playing on QX9650. I remember back in the day $1000 CPU back in the day with the 8800 GTX a $2,000 PC setup back in the day. Thanks for doing the C2D and C2Q setup to really show what is "CPU bottleneck". I'm really sick of people saying the 1090T or the 2500K is a bottleneck, when older CPUs are more of a bottleneck. Or saying that 970 or their RX 480 is a bottleneck etc...
Im not sure that are cpu bottlenecked here on last RTX ON test. Existing some issues (crash and performance) on 1080 resolutions with the RTX cards. (try 720 ou 4k resolution) And what about on dual cpu configuration like=2x XeonL5420 or similar the Q9550.
so this answers an important question: if someone with a restricted budget who wants to primarily play games needs to decide whether to buy the better CPU or the better GPU, always buy the better GPU (within reason - not like in this video which took it to the extreme on both sides! that's why this video is actually great because extremes illustrate best). If budget restricted and putting a system from used parts together, any Intel "Ivy Bridge" (released 2012) and newer is good. Ideally mated to a modern midrange or upper-midrange GPU. Wouldn't recommend AMD Phenom II and FX CPUs unless its a super deal (like you get it for free) and you need an auxiliary heater for winter anyway. If AMD and heavily budget restricted, rather buy a new Ryzen entry level like the Ryzen 3 1200 or 2200G.
The CPU was the bottleneck in BFV, even if the CPU isn't at 99% use it can still be the bottleneck, there is more to a CPU than just cores, probably cache blocked up.
I have a Q6600@2.4GHz (stock) bought in 2008, that I recently upgraded from 2GB to 8GB DDR3@1066MHz and a GTX 1050. I'm playing GTV V pretty well in 4K with minimal settings. Of course, there is some stuttering, but its pretty playable and I'm having some fun spending little money. Now I'm waiting for a new SSD to put in this system and see if brings me some more performance because I notice that even with 8GB of RAM, the games still using a lot of pagination memory and my old HDD@7200RPM doesn't help a lot. So I would love to see how your system would performance using DD3 memories instead of those DDR2. Best regards from Brazil!
@polythebhola How are the youtubers stupid ? They need more fps to provide a better video, i mean, you'd rather watch all videos on youtube at 144p 10 fps ? I don't think so.
Always enjoy your videos and appreciate that you bring something different from all the other tech channels like Linus and Gamers Nexus so I know when I watch your videos it's not gonna be watching the same video I've already seen 5 times. Always make me laugh to. Keep um coming, hope you had a great Thanksgiving if you celebrate Thanksgiving:) as an American in South Africa?? :) GESONDHEID!
unfortunately Minecraft shaders can't get the RTX features because lack of support. OpenGL is of course still supported in these days, but OpenGL itself doesn't release anything for RTX Platform, which can be used for developers. And that's the simple reason why Shaders doesn't have any RTX features
My Q2C Q9550 runs at 3.71 Ghz(max, more than that = blue screen) With 8Gb ddr2-6400. At the beginning of the video you said that you would use Q9650, but then CPU-Z revealed that it was Q9550. If that is indeed Q9650, I have high hopes that you can overclock it to 3.9 or 4.0 or 4.1 or maybe even more, who knows (with better ram of course). It will show better results in the game that you have tested. And not in the high graphics settings, but maybe the pro settings (you can googling the pro settings for each game), or low settings. Maybe you can get more than 100fps while playing fortnite, everyone will be amazed of course. But I'm very glad you still love old hardware.
"Its not the ram, we have 8 gygs.." 4:42 its running at 850mhz man, and actually 7GB is shown so something is wrong there aswell ! U should retest with 1600mhz modules..
@@uphill248 AMD likely will get CPUs with more than 8 cores onto Ryzen so it'll probably be more future proof than the 9900k. Also it performs like 10-20% faster for almost double the price, not worth it imo
Why is that the cpu was "only" at like 80-90% usage?(i know it was at 100 when you was turning) Obv this cpu is not capable of maxing out the 2080ti, so why is the cpu not at like 100%?
It could be processor cache. Also not all apps are able to max out cpu, even if their workload would normally allow them to, like Handbrake which never uses 100% of my CPU on my PC.
Could have also been the design of the CPU, if I remember correctly core 2 quads were essentially 2 dual core CPU's fused together, so not all cores could communicate directly, for example if core 1 wanted to communicate with core 3 it had to go all they way through the sluggish FSB... that could also play a role in the CPU not being able to max out in addition to other things people have mentioned here.
Nice!!!! Old school style in Modern era. I still have and still using until now, Q9550 on Rampage Formula first Gen OC to 3,2Gigz with tandem GTX 1080ti........so far so god in 60fps.
i still use my first pc after 10 years and it feels amazing. it comes to me a p4 on it first time and i upgrade it into a q9400 now still using and im happy 😁
I maxed out a X5460 on Need for Speed 2015. It was time to upgrade. An amazing CPU for the time and lasted several years. I decommissioned the system to office work which still does the job beautifully, albeit massively energy inefficient.
How about trying it with something closer to the bottom of useful limits. Like an i5 4690K water-cooled overclock. It will still bottle neck in 1080, but might not in 1440 or 4K.
In my main desktop, I do use an i7-4770k with a GTX 1080 and 16 gb ddr3 ram at 2400 mhz. Managed to overclock the cpu to 4.4 ghz. Still runs any new games at 1080p max quality with 80 to 90 fps or more.
and if you try to change the other ram memory options, such as Command Rate, Timing Control, etc., is it possible to make the RAM stable with more than 850Mhz?
I still have my old Q9550 and what i can see here is that the ram is impacting the performance a lot. Cause I'm running mine with DDR3 1333mhz ram and with a modern gpu the games run fine. But I will try pubg or something and see how it runs combined with a RX470.
My Xeon e5450 on stock speed ( 3.0 GHz ) and slow 800 MHz dual channel ddr2 ram is easily maxed out on windows 10, even on basic tasks like downloading a game or a video ( doesn't matter the source ). I even tried battlefield 1 but sadly it cannot keep up with even 25% of the gpu power. My Rx 570 sits on the standby clocks because the framerate doesn't go any higher than 28 FPS ( but 17 FPS average on multiplayer ).
@@combatantezoteric2965 Seems like your ram is the bottleneck of that system as well. RAM can make a big difference in system performance. I used to run single channel always wondering why my fps was struggling to go above 30fps as well in my games, but then I realized I should be running dual channel. Since I have a first gen i7 X58 mobo I could run mine in Triple-Channel and after I made that change boom! my fps skyrocketed to 60fps+
I used to have a rig with an Intel DX38BT motherboard. Stupid reliable, bios is recoverable no matter what you do period. And you got DDR3 with supported Cpu's. Paired mine with a C2Q 9650 and for the time I had it even while still old back then, It was a damned good build for the price. If Anyone really wanted to max out the C2Q series, a DDR3 board with good ram would be insane for it
hey! can you give your opinion on whether I should buy the RTX 2070 Founders Edition. Also, whether it will go with my current spec of i7 4770K + 32GB RAM+ VS 650 PSU. If you the answer is no, then what should I go for... please guide me through this pickle!
Outstanding!!! Unexpected!!! You REALLY need to try and get a DDR3 Capable MB! With a QX9650. That would be a REAL comparison of 45nm to 14nm. Granted, it's REALLY NOT a comparison. But, could be a real Value comparison? I'd Watch That!!! Thank you sir.
For 20$ on aliexpress you can get x5660 6 cores 12 threads cpu. For this price performance it's absolutly great. More than 1000cb in cinebench after overclocking to 4ghz+. The problem is it is lga 1366 but you should try this..
You know what, I realize PCI E did not exist back in single core processor days. I wish it was possible to see how the actual single core holds up though. It's rare to even find a working one now days
That's really cool I have a Dell optiplex 755 with a 1050 GTX..and 8 gigs with a velocerapter hard drive to help it...it runs decent. Quads are good entry if u on a budget...
The Q9650, especially when mildly tweaked, still gives very relevant performance. My secondary PC has a modded Xeon X5670 which is basically the same chip but slightly higher clocked as standard. Single core perf is as good as a Haswell i3 and multicore is about 20% better. Considering it costs the equivalent of a meal out, when put with a 750ti or similar, it's a heck of a bargain.
Weird that your getting stuttering when you turn. I'm actually watching this video on my Q9650 stock and GTX 960 w 8GB DDR 3 RAM 1066MHz. Plus I just got done playing Destiny 2 on here with out any hiccups on high settings @ 45 to 60FPS (it stays at 60FPS most of the time). I'm wondering why you were getting that issue. This is my most solid old PC I have. I do have a few more options like my EVGA 780i SLI (actually have 2 of those but if you want one I will send it to you to do a video if you want). There is one issue with Win 10 on the board. Not sure why but if I use the onboard nic I gets a BSOD or just freezes when I transfer large files but they way I got around it was by using a PCI gigabit nic card and no more crashing. EDIT: Forgot to mention, the EVGA 780i has a unlinked OC setting were you can overclock the CPU while keeping the ram stock from the OC. I'm not to familiar with the ASUS board your using and if it has the same function.
Had a i7 920 for 7 years on 3,8 ghz and now a xeon x5650 on 4,0ghz, 12 gb ram on 1603mhz and a gtx 970: battlefield 5 60 fps on high settings 1080p! Not bad for a 9/almost 10 year old pc!
My 10 years old has X45 Ramage Extreme Asus mobo , DDR3 1600mhz g skill, QX9650 on 3,51 with GTX 1080 OC and he is happy with it ;) I tested my 1080Ti in it and benchmark wasn't to bad, some older (Metro Redux, Phantom's pain, Batman) on max settings running pretty smooth :) Core2Quad X still rocks lol :)
Top low cooling for 4GHz . You may change CPU PLL to 1.54 and OC RAM above 825MHz by adjusting its voltage to 1.92-96 which is sufficient for 967MHz for 800MHz RAM. You may need to ramp up North Bridge voltage to.
Una scheda video così recente dovrebbe dare problemi di avvio con una motherboard con bios legacy. Ossia lo schermo dovrebbe rimanere nero fino al caricamento di Windows, senza dare la possibilità di entrare nel bios. Questo è quello che sapevo. Io ho la necessità di sostituire la mia Radeon Hd4830 perché si è rotta. Avevo intenzione di prendere l'Asus GT1030 con 2bm di ram ddr5. Ho una motherboard Asus p5qse con un dual core intel e8500. Potrebbe la Gt1030 darmi problemi?
Upgrade your mobo (try to find the ones with X48. It's 775, but it's designed for OC, and some of the X48 mobo also already have DDR3 support), upgrade your CPU to Q9650 or QX9770 or Xeon X3370 (well, whatever), OC it (optional) and probably you'll see the difference between this spec
Hey I just got a Dell Inspiron 530 and I have just been given a 2080 from a friend's old pc. Do you think itll be compatible with the inspiring motherboard? I'm also worried I don't have a big enough power supply. Can someone help me?
Thread ripper 2950x with gt 210
In 480P res.
Ray Tracing at 320x240 Pixel XD
No, do it with a 2990WX
144p minecraft 30 fps
Game will not star its has only dx 10 support
Core 2 quad : yes I will be paired with rtx 2080 ti
I-9 processor: Am I joke to u??
Core 2 quad- yes u are
(G4560 and G5400 have left the chat)
Its like pairing a jet engine with a donkey
Athlon X4: Si!!!
Core 2 Quad still is the part of golden era for intel processor.
83 FPS: not terrible
*Me internally crying*
@Santosh Kumar matrix guy
actually name him maximillianmus, and want to take over internet xD you can check in forum
*oh yeahhh yeah yeahhh
"there is a bottle neck some where, looks like its the gpu" ... laugth so hard at this
@@dreamydiff8833 cpu is not enough to catch gpu, and it is giving you huge fps drop, that's the bottleneck
TheDreamerPlayz A bottleneck can be explained like this:
If you have a Core 2 Quad (Very old and low performance processor) paired with a 2080ti, the Core 2 Quad will be too old and low-performance for the 2080ti. This means that the CPU will eventually cap out on usage and the RTX 2080ti will suffer. The ‘bottleneck’ is when the CPU begins to hinder the performance of the 2080ti.
@@acd5677 Core 2 Quad Oc is still better than new Athlons and Pentiums.
Shadow Guardian that’s cool, but I was just making an example.
TheDreamerPlayz it’s when your cpu can’t keep up with your gpu
"Don't look at the fire."
Never have those words sounded so true when it comes to compensating for your struggling pc.
That along with "Don't look at the sun..."
But it's so RT pretty
I also think your RAM is bottlenecking due to the fact that it's DDR2. I had a 9650 at 3 gh with 8gb of ddr3 clocked at 1066 mhz and played bf1 with some great frametimes.
Well the motherboard should be change to.
What's your graphic card?
Please I'm begging you for better RAM, this series is genius! It's so much fun :D
I'd love to see more poorly matched systems e.g. an IDE hard drive matched with a comparitively super fast system. Maybe try editing on the 9900k with the minimum amount of slowest DDR4 RAM you can find and so on :D
intel i9 and one of the worst pcie gpus
Ah yes. I got a friend who used to have a Core 2 Quad Q6600 machine laying around. All it needed was some upgrades and a nice GPU. Threw a GTX1050 in that and that machine ran pretty good.
The only main reason it was replaced later on is because the machine developed a motherboard failure. But it had its time.
I still want an Intel i9-9900k with an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT, Brettholomew.
I paired my old 9800GTX+ with a Xeon E52618L and 32GB of ram. GTA V ran~kinda. ~30ish fps all kinds of spikes and dips. If you just stayed at in a city's block area it wasn't bad, onece you started driving long distances it would choke the game to a seconds pause to dump the Vram and continue and try to keep up
I found my old GTX260 yesterday
@@Soldier828 under the bed ?
@@malek2900 I think he found it in his mom's antic, he been living in the basement and decided to embark on an adventure.
Next use a lga 775 DDR3 Motherboard ok
My money its gone.
@@SaddySkull 9.99 for a lga 775 ddr3 optiplex board on ebay
try i5 2500k or smth for ray tracing interesting.
I wonder this as well.
YES
I want to see the non k variant.
Make bottlenek
Ray Tracing requires a BVH which is highly threaded and done on the CPU. The 2500k would struggle. You really want an 8 core for Ray Tracing.
Now THIS is what i wanna see. Now is the time to watch the vid.
I still have core 2 quad q6600 in my 11 years old pc and it still alive up to now with asus p5qe board.
I got a Q6600 in my 9 years old pc with an Asus P5Q.
@@lmcgregoruk Me is a happy User of Q6600G0 today :-) Gtx960, CL4 EPP Ram^^
Me too man! q6600 but with p5qc motherboard. At the moment i have a gt610 but i'm gonna upgrade it to a 1050ti and will be the best days of my life HAHAHA
Haha same :)
me too, i got my Core 2 Quad Q9400 in my 11yr old pc with a gigabyte EG45M-DS2H board. Built by my father in 2008
I love your crazy Videos.
Please pick some cheap 80gb hdds(about ten) and put them in raid 0. This would be crazy.
The motherboard only has 6 SATA ports.
I just did this same test exept with core 2 quad q8300 and a 1080ti strix, and it did a lot better. My ram is 1066mhz ddr2 though. You should definitely re test with faster ram. Results are dramatically different
Q9550 OC 3.4mhz --- Asus p5l-mx
1080P
GTA 5: 40 - 45 FPS (High- ENB)
American Truck Simulator: 50 FPS (Ultra)
Fallout 4: 50 FPS (High)
Not that bad. :P
Core 2 Quad 9550 is like my wife, always be in my heart Q.Q
Core2quad, decent rams and a bit of o/c would be good for a budget gamer together with a 1050ti or a radeon 570 still in 2018!
Definitely not with rx 570 that card is wayyy too powerful
@@manomant181 mehh.. i going to buy that and play to 4k or 2k and to do an overclock for decrease the bottleneck
I heard that disabling windows defender/other windows tasks really cuts cpu usage on lower end processors and helps speed up the other processes like games(Im not sure if it works tho). Its a possible video idea with the low end hardware you keep using.
Not only on low end hardware, either. I'm running a 8700k with a 1080 and disabling windows defender gave me a cool 5 frames in most games.
Using Windows 7 could also help.
Phil Thicc Same thing with my 7700K/2080Ti
I have to say that these core 2 quads still have some life left in them, overclocked they are not bad chips, if you want a cheap starter build, not a bad option! I bought a mobo/cpu combo for 15 euro (core 2 quad q9450), i used it to play older games from the nineties, paired with a gt 1030, it is good enough for what i use it for, offcourse i have a modern rig as well, but still, i enjoy my c2q!
Wouldn't running in 1440p push the gpu a little harder and take some load off the cpu in some of those games?
It wouldn't take any load of the CPU at 1440P as it will still be too many draw calls for the CPU to handle.
Uping it to 4k would do more but don't know if that would even be enough
It can with some setups, there are a few 2080Ti benchmarks showing higher fps at 1440p than 1080p, but that is with like 8700ks and things
It doesn't take that off the CPU as much as load down the GPU enough to bring it down closer to the CPU's max FPS. However, it still doesn't matter if the CPU is still too slow.
Finally I waited so much to see how bad CPU bottleneck was for ray tracing, run RTX with an i5 8400 next please Brett, I have an RTX 2080 with an i5 8400 (temporary), I want to see how bad the bottleneck is before I buy bfv for $60
@matej nemec um with ray tracing, which is optimized for 12 threads, I already know I can get 100+fps non dxr
From looking at other reviews it will still be pretty decent.
upgrade your cpu first
Are you people delusional... Even a 2080 ti can't get 100 fps on raytracing
@@shredderorokusaki3013 I'm still using an i7-2600. Still runs all my games great.
*What amount of bottleneck you want?*
*UFD Tech:YES*
Some of my friends are still playing on QX9650. I remember back in the day $1000 CPU back in the day with the 8800 GTX a $2,000 PC setup back in the day. Thanks for doing the C2D and C2Q setup to really show what is "CPU bottleneck". I'm really sick of people saying the 1090T or the 2500K is a bottleneck, when older CPUs are more of a bottleneck. Or saying that 970 or their RX 480 is a bottleneck etc...
And 1000 dollar is nothing old thausand dollar is now 2 k
Im not sure that are cpu bottlenecked here on last RTX ON test.
Existing some issues (crash and performance) on 1080 resolutions with the RTX cards. (try 720 ou 4k resolution)
And what about on dual cpu configuration like=2x XeonL5420 or similar the Q9550.
so this answers an important question: if someone with a restricted budget who wants to primarily play games needs to decide whether to buy the better CPU or the better GPU, always buy the better GPU (within reason - not like in this video which took it to the extreme on both sides! that's why this video is actually great because extremes illustrate best).
If budget restricted and putting a system from used parts together, any Intel "Ivy Bridge" (released 2012) and newer is good. Ideally mated to a modern midrange or upper-midrange GPU.
Wouldn't recommend AMD Phenom II and FX CPUs unless its a super deal (like you get it for free) and you need an auxiliary heater for winter anyway.
If AMD and heavily budget restricted, rather buy a new Ryzen entry level like the Ryzen 3 1200 or 2200G.
I'd love to see this same type of test with a 2600K overclocked as high as you can get it.
5ghz
i heard south africa and i was lik hey im from there and you just earned a sub
Same
I never asked, but I never clicked a video so fast before in my life.
LOVE the montage. Funny and well done, I'd love to see more of those in reviews.
The CPU was the bottleneck in BFV, even if the CPU isn't at 99% use it can still be the bottleneck, there is more to a CPU than just cores, probably cache blocked up.
Jefferson yea man, plus bfv is quite bad optimised for a Frostbite game ( usually frostbite game runs just fine in my 1060 6gb)
NZXT includes a Front Panel Connector to Individual Leads adapter in the accessories included with the case.
Why do I feel like the thin line between genius and madness has just been erased?
Hey man, a little question. I have a i5 2400, with 1050ti and I'm planning to buy 1660ti should I upgrade the processor and the MOBO also? TIA
An E3 1230 v2 or i7 2600will be ok
Try RTX 2080 with
Xeon x5450
8gb ddr3
I have a Q6600@2.4GHz (stock) bought in 2008, that I recently upgraded from 2GB to 8GB DDR3@1066MHz and a GTX 1050. I'm playing GTV V pretty well in 4K with minimal settings. Of course, there is some stuttering, but its pretty playable and I'm having some fun spending little money. Now I'm waiting for a new SSD to put in this system and see if brings me some more performance because I notice that even with 8GB of RAM, the games still using a lot of pagination memory and my old HDD@7200RPM doesn't help a lot.
So I would love to see how your system would performance using DD3 memories instead of those DDR2.
Best regards from Brazil!
Gets 80 fps...wooow this is playable... well duhhh.. -.-
Gaming has turned into flexing and chasing numbers..
@polythebhola but i need 144 :(
@polythebhola How are the youtubers stupid ? They need more fps to provide a better video, i mean, you'd rather watch all videos on youtube at 144p 10 fps ? I don't think so.
Peasants = 60fps
PCMR = 144fps+
Under A Bridge Too Far my guy we rarely get 60fps wtf you talkin about
@@itskidkelly that's if you have a low budget pc, average budget-high budget pc you can keep an average 90fps and for high about 130
Always enjoy your videos and appreciate that you bring something different from all the other tech channels like Linus and Gamers Nexus so I know when I watch your videos it's not gonna be watching the same video I've already seen 5 times. Always make me laugh to. Keep um coming, hope you had a great Thanksgiving if you celebrate Thanksgiving:) as an American in South Africa?? :) GESONDHEID!
Play minecraft with the 2080 ti
Using shaders.
unfortunately Minecraft shaders can't get the RTX features because lack of support. OpenGL is of course still supported in these days, but OpenGL itself doesn't release anything for RTX Platform, which can be used for developers. And that's the simple reason why Shaders doesn't have any RTX features
@Random Hoerse i've heard about that before, but not sure if it's gonna released for public. Probably just a private project. Dunno
@@KeradSnake raytracing is now supported
@@sullyham151 i know. PTGI. I'm surprised that it doesn't even need C++ Vulkan modification like Nova Renderer to be played
I love this series, more please!
every tie somebody brings up a 775 processor they are always using ddr2. there are ddr3 boards out there for 775...im using one right now
My Q2C Q9550 runs at 3.71 Ghz(max, more than that = blue screen) With 8Gb ddr2-6400. At the beginning of the video you said that you would use Q9650, but then CPU-Z revealed that it was Q9550. If that is indeed Q9650, I have high hopes that you can overclock it to 3.9 or 4.0 or 4.1 or maybe even more, who knows (with better ram of course). It will show better results in the game that you have tested. And not in the high graphics settings, but maybe the pro settings (you can googling the pro settings for each game), or low settings. Maybe you can get more than 100fps while playing fortnite, everyone will be amazed of course. But I'm very glad you still love old hardware.
This is how I play most games everyday... Seems pretty normal to me
F
"Its not the ram, we have 8 gygs.."
4:42 its running at 850mhz man, and actually 7GB is shown so something is wrong there aswell !
U should retest with 1600mhz modules..
I'm still using a Core 2 Quad; what do i replace it with that will last another 10 years.
oof
@@Tarkalark get ryzen 3 next year
2700x
Don’t listen to thm. Get the i9 9900 cpu
@@uphill248 AMD likely will get CPUs with more than 8 cores onto Ryzen so it'll probably be more future proof than the 9900k. Also it performs like 10-20% faster for almost double the price, not worth it imo
10:25
"Holy smokes!"
The core 2 quad : :") literally
6:36 Heavy image tearing on the monitor being a G-sync?
Can you do a follow up with 8GB DDR3 RAM?
Why is that the cpu was "only" at like 80-90% usage?(i know it was at 100 when you was turning) Obv this cpu is not capable of maxing out the 2080ti, so why is the cpu not at like 100%?
@@Malus1531 but in fortnite tho? It doesnt uses the RT cores as far as i know. and even that game wasnt maxing out the cpu
@TurboCMinusMinus it is ram , mobos with DDR3 running smoother than this
It could be processor cache. Also not all apps are able to max out cpu, even if their workload would normally allow them to, like Handbrake which never uses 100% of my CPU on my PC.
If the game would use 100% of the processor recourses there would be nothing left for Windows Wich is the main platform for the game. Think about it.
Could have also been the design of the CPU, if I remember correctly core 2 quads were essentially 2 dual core CPU's fused together, so not all cores could communicate directly, for example if core 1 wanted to communicate with core 3 it had to go all they way through the sluggish FSB... that could also play a role in the CPU not being able to max out in addition to other things people have mentioned here.
Nice!!!! Old school style in Modern era.
I still have and still using until now, Q9550 on Rampage Formula first Gen OC to 3,2Gigz with tandem GTX 1080ti........so far so god in 60fps.
Rtx 2080 ti on hp z230 i5 4th gen ??
i still use my first pc after 10 years and it feels amazing. it comes to me a p4 on it first time and i upgrade it into a q9400 now still using and im happy 😁
wat gpu
Core 2 duo 8400 or above with DDR 3 RAM motherboard
Or core 2 quad with DDR 3 RAM motherboard
Did you try getting the Core 2 quad extreme try seeing if you can get that and then overclock the living heck out of it with the DDR3 RAM touch
4k or 8k would 'minimize' the noticeability of the CPU bottleneck 😁
128 k
I maxed out a X5460 on Need for Speed 2015. It was time to upgrade. An amazing CPU for the time and lasted several years. I decommissioned the system to office work which still does the job beautifully, albeit massively energy inefficient.
How about trying it with something closer to the bottom of useful limits. Like an i5 4690K water-cooled overclock. It will still bottle neck in 1080, but might not in 1440 or 4K.
In my main desktop, I do use an i7-4770k with a GTX 1080 and 16 gb ddr3 ram at 2400 mhz. Managed to overclock the cpu to 4.4 ghz. Still runs any new games at 1080p max quality with 80 to 90 fps or more.
and if you try to change the other ram memory options, such as Command Rate, Timing Control, etc., is it possible to make the RAM stable with more than 850Mhz?
Here here, I don't pay $$$ for Fortnite either.
Default whoooo
I don't play fortnite = even better
@@LocoMe4u great!!!!!
Cool video . Thanks for it, By the way what motherboard are you using ?
I still have my old Q9550 and what i can see here is that the ram is impacting the performance a lot. Cause I'm running mine with DDR3 1333mhz ram and with a modern gpu the games run fine. But I will try pubg or something and see how it runs combined with a RX470.
My Xeon e5450 on stock speed ( 3.0 GHz ) and slow 800 MHz dual channel ddr2 ram is easily maxed out on windows 10, even on basic tasks like downloading a game or a video ( doesn't matter the source ). I even tried battlefield 1 but sadly it cannot keep up with even 25% of the gpu power. My Rx 570 sits on the standby clocks because the framerate doesn't go any higher than 28 FPS ( but 17 FPS average on multiplayer ).
@@combatantezoteric2965 Seems like your ram is the bottleneck of that system as well. RAM can make a big difference in system performance. I used to run single channel always wondering why my fps was struggling to go above 30fps as well in my games, but then I realized I should be running dual channel. Since I have a first gen i7 X58 mobo I could run mine in Triple-Channel and after I made that change boom! my fps skyrocketed to 60fps+
Very Nice Bro Keep It Up
rtx 2080ti but DDR2 ram that's so sad
I used to have a rig with an Intel DX38BT motherboard. Stupid reliable, bios is recoverable no matter what you do period. And you got DDR3 with supported Cpu's. Paired mine with a C2Q 9650 and for the time I had it even while still old back then, It was a damned good build for the price. If Anyone really wanted to max out the C2Q series, a DDR3 board with good ram would be insane for it
1600 FPS boiz
Oof
hey! can you give your opinion on whether I should buy the RTX 2070 Founders Edition. Also, whether it will go with my current spec of i7 4770K + 32GB RAM+ VS 650 PSU. If you the answer is no, then what should I go for... please guide me through this pickle!
Rma FTW
What overlay are you using to monitor the system stats? Looking for one to troubleshoot my girlfriends laptop wich is throttling at random moments.
Amd Athlon 64 3200 with rtx 2080 ti pls???
If Core 2 Duo is dual core, then why Core 2 Quad not named Core 4 Quad it has 4 cores?
Core 2 Quad = perfect 720p gaming CPU
Godness... Do you know what CPU EXACTLY is doing? At 4K or at 360p, fps will be the same.
When you don't know about hardware but you wanna farm likes
There are better cpus for you money if you search for a good deal for an old i3/i5 with board.
@@Tom2404 I mean "perfect 720p gaming CPU" is incorrect. Because resolution depends on graphics card's power not cpu's.
@@Dima0zykov I know that, but it doesn't change the fact that there are better used cpus.
Outstanding!!! Unexpected!!!
You REALLY need to try and get a DDR3 Capable MB! With a QX9650. That would be a REAL comparison of 45nm to 14nm. Granted, it's REALLY NOT a comparison. But, could be a real Value comparison? I'd Watch That!!!
Thank you sir.
i5 3570k ram 8 / gtx 1050 ti 4gb / bottleneck = 0.02%
eh, my i5 4690k, oc 4.6ghz, doesn't bottleneck my gtx 1070 16gb of 2200mhz DDR3 though
@@MrTakeaswig yeah u r lucky that ur 1070 is non ti
@Misery eh, probably be fine CPU only at 75% utilization generally, had been run at 4.5Ghz for the past few years.
Same setup but I got I3 sad
@@MrTakeaswig this is why I don't like oc my friend it reduce the life span of the cpu
Love this, can we request 2080ti going up the generations...??
Last
Probably first youtuber to use low end hardware in a high end case
what program do you use to see all the pc stats like gpu and stuff?
For 20$ on aliexpress you can get x5660 6 cores 12 threads cpu. For this price performance it's absolutly great. More than 1000cb in cinebench after overclocking to 4ghz+. The problem is it is lga 1366 but you should try this..
My old q9650 is still in use in my little brother's PC. Was a decent little cpu in its day
This guy is like the budget linustechtips with all the media team and all
Try one of the ddr3 motherboards. The extra memory bandwidth may help.
You know what, I realize PCI E did not exist back in single core processor days. I wish it was possible to see how the actual single core holds up though. It's rare to even find a working one now days
HEY BRETT I GOT A QUESTION MAN, WILL I BE ABLE TO RUN GTX 1060 3GB WITH THE INTEL I3 2100 CPU?
hello.core to quad q9650 Working with RX 580 8GB? Will they be compatible? Along with the DDR2 system? RAM 800 MGHZ. please reply thank you very much
Try FX8350, is it still usable ? I have one with a gtx 1060
If the graphics card was not there the computer would have exploded
6:33 THE TEARING
That's really cool I have a Dell optiplex 755 with a 1050 GTX..and 8 gigs with a velocerapter hard drive to help it...it runs decent. Quads are good entry if u on a budget...
The Q9650, especially when mildly tweaked, still gives very relevant performance. My secondary PC has a modded Xeon X5670 which is basically the same chip but slightly higher clocked as standard. Single core perf is as good as a Haswell i3 and multicore is about 20% better. Considering it costs the equivalent of a meal out, when put with a 750ti or similar, it's a heck of a bargain.
Weird that your getting stuttering when you turn. I'm actually watching this video on my Q9650 stock and GTX 960 w 8GB DDR 3 RAM 1066MHz. Plus I just got done playing Destiny 2 on here with out any hiccups on high settings @ 45 to 60FPS (it stays at 60FPS most of the time). I'm wondering why you were getting that issue. This is my most solid old PC I have. I do have a few more options like my EVGA 780i SLI (actually have 2 of those but if you want one I will send it to you to do a video if you want). There is one issue with Win 10 on the board. Not sure why but if I use the onboard nic I gets a BSOD or just freezes when I transfer large files but they way I got around it was by using a PCI gigabit nic card and no more crashing. EDIT: Forgot to mention, the EVGA 780i has a unlinked OC setting were you can overclock the CPU while keeping the ram stock from the OC. I'm not to familiar with the ASUS board your using and if it has the same function.
I have 8GB kingston DDR2 800MHz with nice heat spreaders laying around if you'd be interested :)
Now time to watch the rest of the video
Had a i7 920 for 7 years on 3,8 ghz and now a xeon x5650 on 4,0ghz, 12 gb ram on 1603mhz and a gtx 970:
battlefield 5 60 fps on high settings 1080p! Not bad for a 9/almost 10 year old pc!
My 10 years old has X45 Ramage Extreme Asus mobo , DDR3 1600mhz g skill, QX9650 on 3,51 with GTX 1080 OC and he is happy with it ;) I tested my 1080Ti in it and benchmark wasn't to bad, some older (Metro Redux, Phantom's pain, Batman) on max settings running pretty smooth :)
Core2Quad X still rocks lol :)
Top low cooling for 4GHz . You may change CPU PLL to 1.54 and OC RAM above 825MHz by adjusting its voltage to 1.92-96 which is sufficient for 967MHz for 800MHz RAM. You may need to ramp up North Bridge voltage to.
Core voltage about 1.375V. Will be more than enough.
Una scheda video così recente dovrebbe dare problemi di avvio con una motherboard con bios legacy. Ossia lo schermo dovrebbe rimanere nero fino al caricamento di Windows, senza dare la possibilità di entrare nel bios.
Questo è quello che sapevo.
Io ho la necessità di sostituire la mia Radeon Hd4830 perché si è rotta. Avevo intenzione di prendere l'Asus GT1030 con 2bm di ram ddr5. Ho una motherboard Asus p5qse con un dual core intel e8500. Potrebbe la Gt1030 darmi problemi?
And with a Intel Xeon W3690 on a 1366 x58 platform ?
Overclock to 4.5ghz ?
Upgrade your mobo (try to find the ones with X48. It's 775, but it's designed for OC, and some of the X48 mobo also already have DDR3 support), upgrade your CPU to Q9650 or QX9770 or Xeon X3370 (well, whatever), OC it (optional) and probably you'll see the difference between this spec
Hey I just got a Dell Inspiron 530 and I have just been given a 2080 from a friend's old pc. Do you think itll be compatible with the inspiring motherboard? I'm also worried I don't have a big enough power supply. Can someone help me?
11:05 @2080ti bottle necking the core 2 quad lol
have a q9550 until 2017 with 3.8ghz overclcok and played everithing at 1080 p high with a 7870 ,great cpu !