🟡 Best Medium Format Camera For Beginners | Mamiya 645 Review (M645 Super + 1000S)
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Best Student Medium Format Camera: Mamiya 645 Review: M645 Super + Mamiya 1000S
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Perhaps the best medium format film camera for beginners. This Mamiya M645 review looks at the 645 Super model and the older Mamiya 645 1000S. The later releases have the interchangeable Mamiya 645 film back but the older model still had the interchangeable either Mamiya 645 prism finder or Mamiya 645 waist level finder ("WLF"). In terms of the best Mamiya 645 lenses the Mamiya Sekor 80mm f1.9 lens is the fastest lens and best Mamiya 645 portrait lens (for me). The mamiya 645 80mm kit lens is smaller and sharp and great for a minimal setup. If you compare the Mamiya 645 vs Hasselblad 500cm the Hassy is larger and heavier (marginally). For the Mamiya 645 vs Mamiya RZ67 Pro II the RZ is twice as heavy! For Mamiya 645 film loading see the blog post link below. Video includes Mamiya 645 portraits and other sample photos. O sometimes use the Mamiya 645 extension tube to allow me to get closer for portrait images.
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Matt's smile and enthusiasm for whatever he is sharing is so infectious. Love how he holds each camera up close so we can see it actually being used and handled. So helpful...
Ha thank you!
Such informative and helpful reviews across the board. Thank you Thank you!
Thanks no problem! See my other videos for more 645 cameras.
Now.. even this vid is a year old... Matt is giving me again the brilliant insight in exactly this camera I still have in this config in my house inherited from my late dad... Again Matt, your knowledge and practical explanation is beyond outstanding. Thx so much. What bothers me is that I get similar topic videos with similar cam compares from other youtube channels in my feed , copying your ideas. Don't they have their *****ing own ideas. :-))))))
Ah thanks Jack haha.. I guess I'm starting to do OK if others are now copying me!! I'm getting there slowly and yes nice camera! :) Cheers!
thank you for this video!! about to buy my first and this was the most helpful video i found
Ah thank you very kind! Yes I try to make all my videos more facf and photos instead of the cool b roll style
That was a very very comprehensive review of the Mamiya 645! More power!
Thank you!
another banger video! Thanks matt!
Thank you! I'm having a few days rest now but i'll be back next week! :)
I don't think you can go wrong with this, the Pentax 645 or my choice the Bronica ETRSi. Of course if money is no object the Contax 645 is an amazing system, but hard to justify its price. I love the Bronica over the others for a couple of reasons. The 40mm PE lens is OUTSTANDING, the price is usually cheaper and the best thing is the coveted 135w back that lets you do panoramic 35mm shots like a much cheaper x-pan. That back is rare and hard to find though. Downside of the ETR system is that the hand crank is stupid expensive so it's actually better to just get a speed winder even though it makes the kit a bit bigger. I do prefer my RB67 as I do like 6x7 better than 645 as a format, but the 40mm is a great walk around combo with slide film and not much bigger than my Maxxum 7 (a very very under rated modern SLR) with grip. My account on RUclips is for my drone racing stuff, but look for "patrick clarke" on Flickr for some examples of the Bronica.
Thanks! I'm sure readers trying to decide which 645 system to get will find this of interest too. Thanks for sharing. ..and yes the Contax 80mm f2 lens is pretty unmatched. I used to use that setup.
Great video! I absolutely LOVE my Mamiya 645 1000s! I have the 80mm 2.8 and the 45mm-both great sharp lenses! I’m in Arizona so I’ve got plenty of landscape photography goodies here👍🏼
Thanks, ah great! I’ve not tried the 45mm.
Thanks Matt. Back in the early 1980s I used the Mamiya 645 1000 and we tested the 80mm lens at NESCOT college. The lens came out as good as the bench mark Planer lens used on the Rolleiflex of the time. The Mamiya 645 was just a wonderful easy to use and handle camera; superb weight and size and robust build costwise compared alongside the Hasselblad, Bronica and Rolleiflex. I miss mine dearly.
Thanks Ron, nice memories! You can find them on eBay if want to get back into it.
Thinking about dipping into the medium format (I had already decided the Mamiya 645 Super was the one!) and your video was extremely helpful and well done. Plus your photography proves that you are a talented image maker as well as RUclipsr, there are a lot of gear hounds on RUclips but it's better to hear input from someone with the skills of creating great work. I have a deep background with 35mm film but Medium Format was something I just never delved into so it's good to hear from a pro about what matters in day to day shooting with this camera. The lens choices seem to align with what I was thinking of too. Nice work Matt and subscribed.
Thanks Dan, appreciated! Yes these are still great value cameras compared to Hassy etc. yes I’m still more a photographer than a RUclipsr! (See my medium format playlist for similar videos)
Love that intro! Great video, I’ve been looking at the 1000S as a cheap first foray into MF so found this really useful seeing how it compares to the super! Subscribed and look forward to consuming more of your content!
Thanks Andrew. You are welcome to buy my 1000S but i've not tested it so would sell it as "for parts" as they say on eBay. Yes it willl do the same job as the Super. (You will laugh at my next video - tomorrow.. think of my words then think of your videos in terms of the camera price.. It will make sense when you see it!) :) ..thanks for Sub!
Have you considered the 645 j?
@@pasqualecannavacciuolo61 I purchased an M645 a few months ago, there are some videos on my channel using it in different situations and I have to say I’m really happy with it!
Great video, very informative.
Thanks Henry!
AMAZING, thanks for the auto extension ring tip, I had no idea what that thing did lol
Thanks Ryan! No problem 👍🏻
Excellent expose. Thanks for sharing
Thank you!
Thanks for your review, Matt, and the beautiful portraits. The 645 is indeed an interesting format, and after decades of Leica shooting, I got myself a Bronica ETRSi in January this year with the 2,8/50mm and the 3.5/105mm, which renders an even clearer image on the ground glass than the 50mm. I love the waist level viewfinder like I loved it with my Rolleis (Rolleicord and Rollei SL2000). I was stunned by the b/w negatives, which scanned so easily. The negatives are, of course not 6 x 4,5 mm, but 40x50mm, which is still almost 3 times bigger than the nett format of 35mm film. In short: I have a new love affair!
Thanks Les, congrats on your new mistress! :)
Thanks for the video,, Very informative.
Thank you Malcolm, I need to use mine more now! :)
Hey Matt, thank you for this video! It's good to see that rather "old" cameras are still in place. In the 1980s I replaced my 35mm SLR with with a Mamiya 1000s because I was facinated about the image quality. In 1988 I sold my old 1000s and bought a Mamiya 645 Super because of the changeable film backs which gave me the opportunity to use different films with different film backs. That was really a professional use although I was a Hobby Photographer. And for landscape work this camera was amazing. Being rather heavy I didn't care about it in the Namib Desert, I did awesome pictures. I still have this camera fully equipped and from time to time I use it. My dream was a Hasselblad - but too expensive at these times. And as a landscape and still photographer the format of 6x4.5 was was better for me than 6x6. 6x9 was also an option but that was more an option for professional photographers 😉. This was most of the brilliant and affordable cameras in the late 1980s with high quality and could beat ANY 35mm camera a this time. A scan from today of the slides or negatives still gives you 53 MP images. I loved (and still love) this camera because of its professional use. That's one of the camera's I never sell. Cheers Thomas
Thanks for sharing Thomas! Yes 645 is a big jump up from 35mm
Hi Matt, excellent video also this time, I don't have a 645 but a 6x7 pro sd .... much heavier, I must say a little uncomfortable to carry around.
It was my first medium format with 3 lenses so I just can't sell it (I use it very little ... but every time you use it it fills your heart with joy, the lenses are of a spectacular quality.
take care
Thanks Claudio, great to see you here! Thanks regarding 67, yes I hear they are lovely, just heavy! :)
I bought a 645J back in the 80's used it for proms,weddings,school photos,sharp photos and beautiful color with standard 80mm lenses, a great camera.
Thanks Vince! Yes the kit lens is very capable and it offers a big step up from 35mm for sure.
Back in the day, I had a Bronica SQ-A. Amazing camera with lenses! Thanks Matt!
Thanks if I ever use one i'll be sure to review it! :)
Started in medium format with one of these Mamiya’s way back when. Had to rent for a weekend as I could not afford. Never did purchase one as I went for a Hasselblad but maybe I should reconsider. Again Matt thanks for another great video.
Thanks Peter, these offer great value (even if price has gone up) but yes like you I normally use a Hasselblad instead.
Peter McKinnon? Thomas Heaton? Bah! They don't have a THING on you Matt!! This was one of the best review videos I've seen.... you hit so many good points in a minimum of time and you know how to keep the camera in focus unlike so many others!!! And yes, I just subscribed to see where you go..... my 645 Super should arrive in the next 2 days. hmmmmmmmmm!!!!
Thanks David! That’s me one sub closer to the big guys :) Congrats on your new camera!
Great video!
Thanks Pablo!
Really really well done...
Thank you Steve!
To me it's the best for anyone, beginners and experienced pros alike. I hate to do it, but I'm selling my M645 Pro TL (US only) with two lenses and multiple backs after missing too many shots due to my aging eyes. But now I use the AF version, which isn't as charming, but yields equally lovely results.
Thanks yes I found my hit rate on my M645 lower than other cameras so I got the H2 with AF lenses. More expensive but I enjoy the setup.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Sorry Matt but what is the H2?
@@dinodemopoulos3336 hi Dino, Hasselblad H2. See MrLeica.com for info
All different lengths of extension tubes can be mounted as
pairs or single between the camera body and a wide angle lens,
a standard lens, a tele lens, a long focal lens, a zoom lens,
a macro lens, a micro lens, a sofft focus lens, a TS lens,
a PC lens, a macro bellows, a slide duplicator or a pin hole lens cap lens.
Thanks Jaco! Yes lots of options for these cameras!
The images are amazing
Thank you! See other videos to see more images. I try to include in most videos
Great video 🎉
Do you know much about the extension tubes and it’s compatibility?
Thanks! I only know that the tubes should let you mount any lens and focus closer.
Great video. I love Mamiya cameras, but I've only used C-series TLRs and an RB67. I've toyed around with getting an M645, but I'm kind of in love with my RB and (at the moment at least) I don't mind the weight so I'll likely just end up getting a 645 back for my RB instead. The one thing drawing me to the M645 though are those faster lenses though, those things render amazingly....
Hey Ben! I’m sure you don’t need GAS but yes the Mamiya 80 1.9 is one of the best lenses out there! (that and the Pentax 105 2.5 are commonly named top 2)
..I have the RZ (see that vid) so I can relate to your RB love! Those WLF are amazing :)
Beautiful photos and system. Very nice rendition by the lenses. I imagine very few labs process MF roll film.
Thanks for joining from Facebook! As mentioned pro labs all develop 120 film just not high street stores.
I hope you can do a few videos on the individual lenses for landscape and portrait.
Thanks Steve, when I get to talk about lenses I can say how I use them, no problem.
Yes on the lenes - cool channel!
Thanks!!
I got hooked on Bronica cameras I have owned 2 ERTSI, and a ECTL. I sold the all but still have my S and SQA with 120, 220, and 645 backs. Very affordable and nice glass!
Thanks for sharing! Good to know.
Thanks for the video! Wonderful. Could you tell me which lens you used for the pics starting at 12:40? So good
Thanks! Shot with the awesome and unique 80mm f1.9
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks man!!
Just received a full kit of this camera with the grip, a power bounce flash, a 80mm f4 macro and a 45mm f2.8, in a nice Mamiya case for 400€. Of course, I'm already lurking for a better lens for portraits. And here is my question for you Matt : would you recommend to pair this with something like a good ad200 flash for studio photography? Thanks a lot and keep up the good work 👍
Hey Florian, sorry I missed this. These camera are not great for flash with slow sync speed but get a leaf shutter lens for it and then yes great with flash like AD200. I have that light (see that video).
I have had several Hasselblads, never liked the 6x6 format. Now with Mamiya 645 pro I feel like home. Sold the blades and use Mamiya and digital Canon 1dx mark 2, the brick ;) when needed. Photographed since 1971, Old Timer ;)
Thanks Sam, nice! Yes I do find 645 easier too. I use the H2 mostly. (Hassy)
I shoot the Pentax 645 and it serves me well. I did enjoy watching this video, very informative. My question....... Since I saw a lot of your portrait work in the video, would you mind giving an opinion on your favorite film for portraits, B&W & Color?
Thanks nice. I shot a Pentax 67 today for the first time. Maybe a video to follow! If you visit MrLeica.com and go to the M645 blog post (or any) click the image you like and it will show you full res with camera, lens and film info (+ dev) for that shot. I have used many films but I like budget Fompan 100 for B&W (or Delta 100 or ,, many) and I guess Portra 400 for colour but my preference would be 120 Gold now its available. I find Portra. bit boring. and prefer the warm Gold tones.
I really good model for this to look for as well is the 645E. People tend to view it as subpar the other ones but it's not really. Uses inserts vs backs so no mid roll change but frankly multiple backs were just as commonly used back in the day for speed in changing from completed roll to fresh one as they were for multi-film shooting, perhaps more so. Inserts in that case work fine. The viewfinder is molded on but if you plan on shooting the way all these tend to get used then that's fine too. As to the photo quality - absolutely the same. Not one spec of difference, regardless of some of the odd statements online. Overall these tend to get passed over which can mean a bargain for you. It's part of Mamiya's last generation as well for whatever that's worth. From a pure optical performance level there simply is no upgrade from there as long as you're staying in the same format (645).
Thanks! Noted. I really need to dust mine off to use again
Hey Matt, great review. What’s the weight difference between the super and 1000s? Curious how much heavier the all metal body is. Thanks.
I would have to Google it as I don’t have the cameras to hand. I would expect the Super to be lighter.
The metal body is not much heavier, just 45 grams.
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Double dutch by Mamiya.
For Mamiya 645 close up photography you need:
an extension tube, an an extension ring and a washer.
I love my Hasselblad, because all I need is an extension tube.
The 645 SLR is crap; you must be a spastic to make vertical shots.
Is there a tripod mount at the left or right side of a Mamiya 645 body?
If Mamiya would have designed a 6x6 SLR, in Sweden the Hasselblad works might went down.
Has the Mamiya 645 SLR been designed by a Dutch LF camera manufacturer?
Thanks Jaco, half way through reading I knew this must be from you :). Yes not great for portrait orientation!
Hi Matt, I shoot all 3 formats that you have mentioned, along with APS-c. I do gravitate to med, and large format for most of my work though. I just recently got a Mamiya 645 Pro, and liked it so much I picked up a TL, and a 1000s so I would be very interested in seeing your lens review for the 645. I currently own an 80 2.8, a 150 3.5, and the 55 2.8. I admit, those are the three main focal lengths I try to cover first when getting a new format, so I would be very interested in your thoughts on other lenses for this camera. Thanks for the nice review, and being new to your channel, I would be interested also, in your thoughts on a Yashica Mat 124g.
Thanks Monty, nice setup! Lens review.. OK noted! I will put on my list. As for TLR I looked at the 124G but bought a Rolleicord (see video) and later a second lesser known TLR that I still need to review. The Yashica is as good as any in my eyes. (For standard models - excluding the f2.8 Flex's etc).
As a studio portrait guy using strobes in addition to fresnel hot lights, 1/60 is slow for the 150 mm I use so picked up the 150 leaf shutter lens that gives up to 1/500 sec sync speed. Hand holding in studio it tack sharp.
Hi there! Great work. 😊I am looking into medium firmst film and trying out the 500cm at the moment on rent. There is a good deal on a Mamiya 645 super with a 150mm lens in mint condition though in a local store. What is your take on 645 vs 6x7? 😅
Hi! If you shoot portrait (vertical) you'll need the prism for the M645. With 6x6 you dont have that issue. With 6x7 the RZ67 is tank (see that video). Better for studio or less suited for travel. M645 is small and light in comparison. Hasselblad in a happy middle ground (see that video too). M645 are the cheapest / lightest and still a big jump up from 35mm (in neg size).
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom many thx! Will try to get my hands on some more cameras to compare. My current 500cm does lack the magnifier and I feel that I am guessing focus mostly based on eye sight and the distance scale 😂
Matt I love your videos. As you asked I loved a all this fine cameras you spoke about. However, I still waiting for the lens comparison that I would love to see. I have a Mamiya 1000s with one lens only. I would love to see a side by side comparison of the other lens'. Thank you sir.
Thanks Roger!
Mr. Osborne; I truly love your work and the passion you bring to it. God Bless you. Roger
Hi Matt, have you ever tried the pentax 67 with the 105mm f2.4. Its has a very good reputation. Maybe one day we will see the review....😉. I have the pentax 645n and the pentax 6x7. Very good cameras. By the way, your portraits are stunning
Thank you! NOt my best work as most the images date back 3-5 years. When I got the Hasselblad 501c I stopped using the M645 and then with thre H2 that is now my go to setup. Others have also told me to try the P67 setup. Maybe one day! My eyes are not good enough for SLRs! :) Thanks regarding P645n too btw. (Useful for other readers).
I have to say I like the look of those mamiya lenses, I am using the Hasselblad H2 and H3DII-31 with the HCD 28mm, the HC 50mm, the HC 80mm, the HC 120mm Macro and the HC 210mm lenses. For travelling nothing beats my Rolleicord Model I Art Deco.
Thanks and impressive setup you have there! I need to use my Rolleicord (It needs a service first but I have another TLR I want to use too). :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Great photography. Have you tried the Hasselblad HVM finder for waist level shooting? I love it.
@@Funktrainer Ah very cool! No i've not though with my eyesight I think i'd prefer the prism with tall models! :)
Hi Matt, if you have to choose only one lens between the 80mm f1.9 and 110mm f2.8 for portrait photos, what will be your choice? Thank you 😄
Hi, oo tough question! For vintage/bokeh look get 1.9, for sharpness get 110.. very sharp! I'll try to do a review on some of these when I get chance.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you, I'm currently considering one of them since their price are very similar in my region 😄
I started with the Mamiya 645 and stayed with it. I have the original 645 and the 1000s if I need more then one type of film I bring the extra body. I stick with the metal bodies because they are more rugged and I'm a bit clumsy. They have taken a beating and just keep working similar to the Nikon F2. I did get a 500cm that spent two months in the shop but was unrepairable due to a lack of parts. I'm staying away from expensive old cameras because their days are numbered. I picked up the 1000s body for $95, however, Ebay prices on 645's has gone up around $100+. My favorite and sharpest lens is the 70mm, it rarely leaves the camera. I heard the 110mm is also very sharp but it is a bit rare and pricey compared to the other lenses. If you find a system that works for you pick up some extra bodies when you find a good deal. If you find someone that can repair your 645 and he can find parts it will cost you more then the body is worth.
Thanks Mathew,great to hear you use the Mamiyas and thanks for the info. My 1000S may work I’ve just never tried it.
Glad i found your channel mate makes me want to grab my Mamiya 645 AFDII and Mamiya RZ didnt shoot with them for ages :( also my Graflex 4x5" with aero ektar
Hi thanks! Ha yes it is time to dig out your film cameras! :) :) I teach / share a lot of info on my lighting on Patreon (link on most videos). You might enjoy it. Yes v800. Hassy! Yes! :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom haha funny yesterday i was already temped :D have just to check which tier is right for me :) damn it those times where the best have some health issues so i cant do any photos where chemicals are involed thats why digital "real" medium format :) but those 4x5 wetplates GRRRRR :D
@@jsfotografie sorry to hear! Yes £3+vat gives you most content excluding tuition (most popular tier)
@matt do you think the pro TL is really worth it over the super ?
Both will take the same photos so it will just depend on your preferences.
I'd like to see a video on the lenses. I have access to an early version with 80 and 150mm lenses, full kit extension tubes, flashes, grips case.
Thanks Jaime, I've not used this camera for ages as I seem to be shooting mostly 35mm film but I will try to if I get a chance!
Nice introduction..
Thanks Felix!
Hi Matt, have you heard anything about adopting leitz summicron 90/2 to 645? Do you think it worth to try or rather go for mamiya 85/1.9?
I have heard about a Leica 90mm being used on MF some years ago but I don't know the details. The 8519 is likely easier to do.
..I think it was the 90f4 not the 90f2.. you need a big enough image circle etc.
Medium format (and larger, I actually do my most "serious" photography with my 5x7 and 11x14 large format cameras) is the only reason to do analog again. To me, 35mm has no real advantage over digital anymore, since you can emulate nearly anything nowadays (including a quite convincing Kodachrome 25 or b&w film look) with settings on the camera or the software.
Right now, I only have my large format cameras, and I'm in the process to decide which medium format camera would suit me best. For a long time I favored the Fuji "Texas Leicas", but after much thinking I'm now down to 6x4.5 format, mostly because of size, weight and economy. Now I only need to decide if I go the range finder route or go back to my beginnings as a photographer with a more Hasselblad style rig, what would have me look at the Pentax or Bronica systems as well.
Hi! I still need to share my 3 LF 4x5 cameras.. I keep getting side tracked by 35mm cameras. I do like 35mm actually for portraits as the low-fi look as some term it helps to soften skin for female portraits. If you want 645 consider Fuji GA645, GS645, M645 as here, Hassy H series or Hassy Vs with 645 backs. I use all these so see the camera review playlist for more on each of them. They all have pros and cons. I've not shot with Pentax or Bronica systems yet.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom If you want to create softer portraits while using large format cameras, you could try to use a Wollaston style meniscus lens. You can try to buy 100+ years old ones, or - what I did - buy them from this 80+ years old guy in the USA, who is building them himself. Just google for Reinhold Schable.
@@Dahrenhorst thanks! I’m fortunate that I have an Aero Ektar and some projection lenses for that
I'm interested in something like an old press camera. I like the Mamiya Super 23 in 6x7 or an older Graffex Crown Speed Graphics 4x5" w/ creative use in 6x7 roll film back.
I’ve got a Speed Graphic. See my large format / 4x5 video 👍🏻
..I use 6x7 + other 120 backs too
Heh now it is my second dream camera ;3
Good value MF camera though very popular so not as cheap as used to be. I need to use mine again.
Definitely do a follow up video on your Mamiya lens thoughts
Thanks Steve, OK great i'll put it on the list! :)
I have a Mamiya 645 E. A great camera for the amateur photographer. I am planning to buy a Sekor C 1.9/80 N lens, but it seems to me that it is not fundamentally better than the already good enough standard Sekor C 2.8/80 N.
Quite different John, size and built to start with.. 2.8 is small, light and more plastic. For bokeh get the 1.9, 2.8 can give shallow DOF if get in nice and close. I have both.
For sharpness it's the Sekor C 4/80 Macro
Do you have any experience of the 200mm Mamiya 645 lenses. They seem dirt cheap
Sorry I don’t, I tend to shoot 50mm equivalents (80mm on MF) though I have a 210? On the Mamiya 7. Also cheap.
Can you drop a link to where you got your camera strap pls
Hey Kevin, I think it came with the camera. Search eBay Mamiya 645 strap, you’ll find some 👍🏻
I am looking at this video in the future. Back where you are, do you still use film? Do you develop and print this film? Here we use Sony A7 level cameras with Mamiya 645 lenses.
Hey! Yes I still have it but haven't used for ages. I normally shoot 35mm film Leicas (or Nikon sometimes). I need to shoot more MF! I dev but don't print* (See latest video for me using film)
In the last few months bought 3 of the lenses and use with with a simple adapter to my Sony A7Rii shooting through the middle of the glass and have no edge issues. Looks great. No glass in the adapter.
MAMIYA SEKOR C 45mm F/2.8 N
MAMIYA SEKOR C 80mm f 2.8
MAMIYA SEKOR C 150mm f 3.5
6 months after this video was made, this BASIC 645super system on ebay is over $1000. wow.
Yes the prices on these continue to rise. They seem to be the go to camera for new film shooters as cheaper than a Hassy etc. They sell for about £350+ here
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Mamiya 645 Super OR BRONICA ETRSi?
I might be deaf or blind, but what kind of film do you use with your 645? I have a 645 s1000 and I'm still trying to figure out what I like and dont like.
Hi Michael, I use a lot of film stocks (see the MrLeica.Com blog for all the film reviews). Currently I use Fomapan 100 a lot
Did you ever sell the old 645? Def interested!
Yes sorry I sold it. Check eBay for deals
My first mf camera was/is a Mamiya c33. Got me hooked on wl finder & 6x6. Still have that camera, can't seem to part with it.
Nice Ryan, I nearly bought one a few times in the past. I do love 6x6 WLF!
Hi everyone
Getting my first medium format film camera.
I’m torn between mamyia 645 range or bronica etr range.
Can anyone please help 🙌🙌
Mamiya are great. I’ve not used Bronica
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for replying.
Any specific one (budget friendly )?
i’ve had absolutely no experience with photography and film. i recently asked my dad to buy a reusable film camera and he told me that my grandad had left him this camera (along with tons of stuff for it) from when he had a photography shop. He asked me if i wanted it so i’m looking at videos all day but i’m very confused. What would you recommend me to do ?
Hello, great to hear you grandad left the came for your dad. These cameras are actually "trending" right now with new film photographers as they offer good value for "medium format". This need "120 film" rather than usual 35mm. You can still buy it on Amazon etc and labs develop it. This gives you more detail in the photos as the film is bigger than 35mm.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you for responding. i’m thinking of picking up something like the olympus om1 or canon ae1 to get used to film cameras because like i said before i have zero experience with it :) can i message you somewhere if and when i pick the mamiya?
@@chrysa480 I’m on Patreon if you want a helping hand as you learn film photography. Just reach out and I will try to help (I do the same with other Patreons). Yes I recommend a simple camera to start with, also look at cheap Nikon’s F80, FG20 (see videos), Minolta X300 (see video). Canon is popular and OM-1 is nice too, I did have one.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you so much for your help. i’ll look into your patreon once i pick up my first film camera :)
@@chrysa480 no problem and good luck with it 👍🏻😊
Do a lens video!
Thanks, I need to use this camera more again but yes I will try after that 👍🏻
just one interesting fact, that mamiya became today's Phase ONE, started with 645DF then teleported to the xt/ XF we see today, in fact simmilar to all digital MF cameras today, hasselblad, Fujifilm GFX, Leica S2, Phase ONE xf, they Are 6x4.5 cm format sensors!
Thanks Andy! I use the Hasselblad H2 too (see video), great camera, same format.. and the Fuji GA645 / Fuji GS645 (see vids)..and 645 backs on the Hassy 500s/ RZ occasionally.
I'm lucky enough to own several MF film cameras and 'Best' is of course a personal thing, but if I had to choose just one to shoot with for the rest of my life, it would most likely be my Mamiya 6 and its 3 lenses.
Thanks Mike, agreed the Mamiya 6 is definitely up there for sure! :) See that video if you've not already spotted it! :)
Often you recommend metal bodies over plastic/polymer yet today you seem to recommend the Mamiya Super over the 1000S which I guess is about the increased functionality offered by the detachable backs?
Hi yes good point. See tomorrow’s video for a similar contradiction. Yes function first, form second. I use the plastic Bessa L camera as I wanted a light as possible camera for example. In the video example yes the Super is far superior with the interchangeable back etc so I didn’t even consider not getting a super vs metal 1000s.
..I’m excited for tomorrow’s video so let me know if you approve! It’s not the usual format and right on your topic. :)
Hi there Matt Osborne, I realise I'm a bit late to this video but if you're still looking to sell your 1000s body I may be interested! Thanks
Thanks! Sorry it’s already gone but I appreciate you asking. I hope you find one.
Great camera and it's somewhat easily available in Russia, but scanning film is gonna be the real issue since all proper scanners on used market may cost as much as the camera itself if not more :(
Thanks John, yes true. I think my Epson is around £500 at a guess.
You can scan with a digital camera like people do now.
645? Handsome, but not the kit I would want to worry about in a sudden thunderstorm on Crete. I'm going to barge in and describe what I want.
It would be a 6x6 film camera, a modern version of my beloved Zeiss folder. The body might be some kind of strong polyester/carbon, perhaps lighter than the Zeiss. The fixed lens would be a modern version of the Tessar, but it would NOT be front element focusing. Focusing would be achieved by moving the film plane, as in the Mamiya 6. The lens would have modern coatings. I would want a slightly wide angle lens, perhaps 60mm. The viewfinder/rangefinder would be much bigger and brighter than the Zeiss. There would be no metering or other electronic impairment of any kind.
Will anyone build something like this for me? Alas, not a chance!
I was already saying Mamiya 6 after 2 sentences.. that ticks most of the boxes and great optics/ size.
Looks like you always exclude Pentax, Koni-Omega and Bronica from your consideration. The quality of bokeh of the 1.9 lens is often criticized as not being really defined. I read also the focusing screens are rather dark, did you notice that?
Thanks Nico, that’s only because I don’t own them and or have not been tempted. I’m sure they are great but I can only talk about cameras I have experience with. Like most fast lenses it isn’t perfect (think Noctilux f1) but it’s the best Mamiya offers for a fast lens. The Contax 80mm f2 is better.
I’ve not noticed the screen being overly dark..
Yo let’s have you run down the lenses kind sir
Thanks Shane, it’s on my todo list!
This is the frustrating thing about RUclips videos: the content may be valuable but speak clearly and enunciate your words and don't slurr them!!!
Thanks LWRC, sorry i'm learning on the job so trying to improve with each video. 200+ videos done and some slight improvements coming through slowly. I'll get there.