Served in them tried and tested in Lebanon and comprehensive training and maintenance programmes in situ within the defense forces, yet the government at the time refused to buy them. One can only wonder why🙄
Hi Jere. Yes, I was told by one ex-Irish army man that the SISU was stifling hot in Lebanon in hot weather. however, it was valued at the time as the Panhard M3, which it replaced, didn't have the power to climb hills when an infantry section was aboard. The SISU also had good mine protection and was very, very reliable. Thanks for your comment.
Please note: there was another very good comment left regarding the poor ergonomics of the SISU 6x6 but for some reason RUclips held it as potentially offensive (!) and then 'disappeared' the comment when I approved it as all right. Sadly this has happened before to certain reasonable, non-offensive comments left with some of my other videos.
Karl Martin Oh yeah I can imagine the heat in Lebanon when even Finnish summer feels hot. Also about the ergonomics. The seats are horrible. The driver and commander seats only support your lower back and in the rear section you can't sit up straight nevermind about leaning against the wall either . In the oldest model there are no seat belts either. Also the noice inside the apc is horrible. I think the manual said its about 90dB inside. I don't know how loud other APCs are though so can't compare it to others.
Hi Jimmy. In Finnish service each one contains a large propeller for use in water - the SISU XA-180 APC is amphibious. However, that capability wasn't required in Ireland where the two Irish-bought SISU in service were used to train Irish troops before they went to Lebanon, where the rest of the (UN-supplied) fleet was in service with Irish troops there. As a result the propellers weren't fitted. The two SUSI in the Curragh Camp were sent to support Irish troops in Somalia during their deployment there in 1993-'94. There are lots of Finnish videos on RUclips showing their SISU XA-180 APCs swimming in lakes etc.
@@karlmartin2698 Thank you Karl. I once worked in Timoney/ADTEC Teo. and was facinated by the stuff they were building in the prototype dept. They were doing a new bullet deflecting radiator grille thingy and many other cool things. Best of all was watching a dude trying to break the APC on the test field)) what a job..
@@jimmymcjimmyvich9052 It must have been very interesting working with Timoney/ADTEC in Navan. They have had a major input into the Singapore Technologies very impressive 8x8 APC en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrex_ICV and were of course also involved with the design of the Australian-built Bushmaster 4x4 protected vehicle. The Bushmaster performed brilliantly in Afghanistan and was used there, and elsewhere, by Special Forces as well as regular units. It is getting a bit long in the tooth now but was a very good vehicle in its day.
@@karlmartin2698 Hello again Karl. It was facinating to look in at the work. I once saw an entire 8x8 prototype shell made from soft steel. Not Armox)). I hope nobody who really needed it for protection took it from the scrap. Huge money involved there. You would often see ''unusual'' groups of people from overseas visiting. The last thing I saw was an armored huge offroad 'Volvo cab' truck that had elaborate fire protection gear. It was to provide fuel for up front stuff somewhere. I noticed you have a New York Fire truck on your front page. I was told that Professor Timoneys Suspension system is used on those. Also most of the US military fire systems. They probably are as the system is used in our airport fire trucks and they can do a full lock at very high speed with full tanks where other trucks would topple over. Very impressive)) We could have made these things for the defence forces but I was told that although they were state of the art in 98, they must have been proven first, The Austrian APC was proven at that stage. Pity cos it would have made lots of good jobs too here. Actually If you look down on the factory with google earth you can see the bumpy test track still in the field to the rear. only a circuit in 2 acres. Respect. Keep the vids coming. PS. There is a chap I know in the Baile Ghib gaelteacht who is a great historian who worked a long time for them who would know all the stuff. Owney Mc Fadden Mayo Road. Slan aris. Seamus Og
Ergonomics designed for the old days, when people had long legs and short torsos. Patria just released a new variant, which looks just like the old one: ruclips.net/video/slzjYnYAZdY/видео.html
Hi YK. It was influenced by a lot of designs, including the VAB. However, the closest might be the German-built TPZI FUCHS 6x6 armoured general purpose carrier. It replaced the BTR-60 in Finnish service I understand.
As an Irish I’m proud that we had Sisu
Served in them tried and tested in Lebanon and comprehensive training and maintenance programmes in situ within the defense forces, yet the government at the time refused to buy them. One can only wonder why🙄
It's fun to drive those off road in forests, though at the same time it's really hot inside the APC
Hi Jere. Yes, I was told by one ex-Irish army man that the SISU was stifling hot in Lebanon in hot weather. however, it was valued at the time as the Panhard M3, which it replaced, didn't have the power to climb hills when an infantry section was aboard. The SISU also had good mine protection and was very, very reliable. Thanks for your comment.
Please note: there was another very good comment left regarding the poor ergonomics of the SISU 6x6 but for some reason RUclips held it as potentially offensive (!) and then 'disappeared' the comment when I approved it as all right. Sadly this has happened before to certain reasonable, non-offensive comments left with some of my other videos.
Karl Martin Oh yeah I can imagine the heat in Lebanon when even Finnish summer feels hot. Also about the ergonomics. The seats are horrible. The driver and commander seats only support your lower back and in the rear section you can't sit up straight nevermind about leaning against the wall either . In the oldest model there are no seat belts either. Also the noice inside the apc is horrible. I think the manual said its about 90dB inside. I don't know how loud other APCs are though so can't compare it to others.
What are the round things on the back? Please.
Hi Jimmy. In Finnish service each one contains a large propeller for use in water - the SISU XA-180 APC is amphibious. However, that capability wasn't required in Ireland where the two Irish-bought SISU in service were used to train Irish troops before they went to Lebanon, where the rest of the (UN-supplied) fleet was in service with Irish troops there. As a result the propellers weren't fitted. The two SUSI in the Curragh Camp were sent to support Irish troops in Somalia during their deployment there in 1993-'94.
There are lots of Finnish videos on RUclips showing their SISU XA-180 APCs swimming in lakes etc.
@@karlmartin2698 Thank you Karl. I once worked in Timoney/ADTEC Teo. and was facinated by the stuff they were building in the prototype dept. They were doing a new bullet deflecting radiator grille thingy and many other cool things. Best of all was watching a dude trying to break the APC on the test field)) what a job..
@@jimmymcjimmyvich9052 It must have been very interesting working with Timoney/ADTEC in Navan. They have had a major input into the Singapore Technologies very impressive 8x8 APC en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrex_ICV and were of course also involved with the design of the Australian-built Bushmaster 4x4 protected vehicle. The Bushmaster performed brilliantly in Afghanistan and was used there, and elsewhere, by Special Forces as well as regular units. It is getting a bit long in the tooth now but was a very good vehicle in its day.
@@karlmartin2698 Hello again Karl. It was facinating to look in at the work. I once saw an entire 8x8 prototype shell made from soft steel. Not Armox)). I hope nobody who really needed it for protection took it from the scrap.
Huge money involved there. You would often see ''unusual'' groups of people from overseas visiting.
The last thing I saw was an armored huge offroad 'Volvo cab' truck that had elaborate fire protection gear. It was to provide fuel for up front stuff somewhere.
I noticed you have a New York Fire truck on your front page. I was told that Professor Timoneys Suspension system is used on those. Also most of the US military fire systems. They probably are as the system is used in our airport fire trucks and they can do a full lock at very high speed with full tanks where other trucks would topple over. Very impressive))
We could have made these things for the defence forces but I was told that although they were state of the art in 98, they must have been proven first, The Austrian APC was proven at that stage. Pity cos it would have made lots of good jobs too here.
Actually If you look down on the factory with google earth you can see the bumpy test track still in the field to the rear. only a circuit in 2 acres.
Respect. Keep the vids coming.
PS. There is a chap I know in the Baile Ghib gaelteacht who is a great historian who worked a long time for them who would know all the stuff. Owney Mc Fadden Mayo Road.
Slan aris.
Seamus Og
Ergonomics designed for the old days, when people had long legs and short torsos. Patria just released a new variant, which looks just like the old one: ruclips.net/video/slzjYnYAZdY/видео.html
It looks just like the French VAB
Hi YK. It was influenced by a lot of designs, including the VAB. However, the closest might be the German-built TPZI FUCHS 6x6 armoured general purpose carrier. It replaced the BTR-60 in Finnish service I understand.