Tennis Has a Mystery That Nobody Can Solve
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Who get's payed once every three weeks...or a month..?? Perhaps it was a brand new job...
Its really is because of the min hand... but you fail to understand basics physics... humanity fails to understand basics physics...
did your foot get stuck in a tea pot mmmmm !
@@EatonShitson How is debt settlement immoral?
is this sponsor good or does it have hidden fees as i have a family member with debt
What I've learned: When royalty plays with each other's balls in public, insanity ensues, and empires fall. Makes sense.
But when I do it I get arrested.
😂😂😂😂
They've got the balls to play with balls, quite ballsy
Is the ball in my court now😂😂😂😂
Balls Deep
Another oddity: Once a game has reched "deuce" (40-40) it is no longer scored numerically. In order to win, you have to win two consecutive points, so it is either "deuce" (tied) or "advantage player", until somebody scores two consecutive points and wins. The score 30 - 30 is sometimes called "little deuce".
The whole thing is so strange. Thanks for trying to straighten it out
@@davidlancaster8152 you think that's strange wtf is pickle ball
I just asked a freind bout that a month ago as we passed a new pickelball court. Never heard of it till then.I'm guessin it's scaled down tennis fer us oldercockers that can't run no mo.
@@seanwaston3892 I have no idea 💡
I stg some rich spoiled child made up these rules as they were playing for the first time
No idea why they used increments of 15. However how about this?: In a game favored and played by royalty, some King was neck-and-neck in a match when his opponent scored that third point and instead of pulling ahead by 15, King I. Neverloose suddenly declared that the third point only counted as 10. His opponent, I. Wannakeepmyhead, said , "Oh yes, of course!" and so it was. Remember, a foot was the size of "The King's" foot(which king? when? does it change with kings?) and we sill use that today. A bit fanciful but I think plausible. Always enjoy your channel!
One of the absolute best channels ever on RUclips.
Thank You.
Up there with the 'Whyfiles' if you haven't already check it out, i highly recommend
Agreed.
Been subbed to this guy since I was 14 in 2014 when he was just a small channel. He used to do a cool series called RIF (random interesting facts).
I put Thoughty2 up there in the same ranks as Tom Scott.
@@646464mario he really is brilliant.
I had a "Book of Facts" as a preteen that asserted that the tennis scoring system was based upon the weight of cannonballs (in lbs no less) fired by the opposing English and French navies during the 100 Years War. Even before the internet was invented, there were a lot of random interjections by uninformed spectators.
Your book of facts…..was a book of bs……sorry to infom you….
In the 1400s everybody was absolutely bloody mental... 2024 everybody is still bloody mental
More so now.
It’s okay, they can just “identify” as “not mental” and we’ll be fine
At least back then you wouldn't of been cutting your pecker off and forcing people to call you ma'am with the police and courts backing you up
True... But at least we don't have to worry about miasthema demons, dancing plague, or a pissed off monarch beheading peasants in the streets in 2024. In most countries anyway.
LOL 😂
It’s crazy to think I’ve been watching this channel since you had a few thousand subscribers…😂 when I scroll through your channel I’ve literally watched every video. Didn’t comment before I don’t think but just wanted to let you know I love sleeping to these videos 💪🤝 keep it up mate!
I don't know if admitting to sleeping to the videos is really a compliment
@@johncharles2357 depends on your perspective I suppose 😄
What a way to die, playing tennis and drinking wine 😂
I used to drink G&T when changing ends.
Could be more French… he could have had some cheese and a baguette.
My dumb ass read that as drinking tennis and playing wine 🤣
He was probably poisoned.
And it's also sounds poetic! Really worth it
Bring back Regular Thumbnails 😅
Piss off.
Shut the hell up.
I agree. These AI thumbnails seem so cringey & pretentious.
Yeah I’m not a fan of them either.
Piss off.
Love your storytelling and animations
When I was a teenager in 1970s USA the score history rumor was that the nobility used this strange system to keep the servants from figuring out the system and learning to play. Thanks for the story.
Honestly, while likely wrong, this actually makes the most sense lol
Kings and nobles are notorious dicks to the peasant class ;)
I asked my husband about this years ago, he just shrugged and said “15-30-40 sounds more precious than 1-2-3”. I guess it does.
im guessing the servants are scoring the matches on the sidelines
@@ibrahim-sj2cr Yep, didn't perceive that one at the time.
You should be proud of the content you make, its often interesting, informative, and entertaining. Just saying in the hope it might "bring a smile to you face". All the best and thank you.
I'm sure the money he's pulling in has brought a smile to his face.
Absolutely, your right.@@allanshpeley4284
Being nice costs me nothing , and he produces an entertaining "show", sometimes its just nice to be nice.
I wonder if the other king sending tennis balls was an insulting message based on something personal between them.
It was
Henry V was quite young and had spent his youth partying and playing tennis
The gift of balls was saying “go play tennis and drop your claim to these dukedoms”
@@jonathanwilliams1065like a grow you're own girlfriend gift, get off mine... It looks such, but it's more too ..
I reckon it's "Even if I give you all these, I've still got more balls than you!"😂😂😂
@@xandytee1041 sadly, you're really wrong... But sorta not... It's a gay thing... You can tell by the scoring system too... Sorta a ball check the Vatican did too. Ish... Goes back to Pythagoras... Pi... Circle... American pie northwest passage even... See every 15... 1+5=6... Love, 6 6 10... The Aten, the Pythagorean perspective of 10... Hoop and stick game.... There's way more... It's created, when the Julian calendar is becoming unlivable... And they bring in the Gregorian. Now essentially if Jesus is killed then Julian calendar, and it's 11 days off by the time they "fix it" who did they sacrifice for the Gregorian? Two women. 11 11 make a wish... This is templars time ... 5 and 6 have meaning in the lunar calendar... And those numbers are at play in the scoring system of tennis... This is sorta George slaying the dragon and Nessie let's use Nessie... If you know who that is .. the separation from the far east and the new world... Lunar calendar is necessary... 28... 2+8=10... It's males... Gay rich males with nothing to worry about so they cause problems and love it's called. Unless you're educated college level at least and country club lifestyle there's no way you have educational ability to figure out what they're doing. This is why they burn books and fake education. And it's not a female friendly bunch.... They'll kill to make sure a female DOESN'T FIGURE IT OUT... FIGUREHEAD.... I'M ONE OF THE FEW FEMALES THAT KNOW... AND BOY THE ABUSE.... These are the males that promote the "housewife" and shopping. All are mason's. In reality, and I myself have been working on this, since my pops, brought home a cobalt masonic ashtray circa 1984... Because they have secrets they demand you lie to spouse to cover, and in reality lying to spouse is grounds for annulment. Especially if the spouse, is merely demoted to fag hag baby maker for a playboy gay boy.
@@xandytee1041 I would have guessed it was: "Seeing your lack of BALLS as a king, here are a few"
My brother is an avid Tennis player and he bring a huge bag of tennis balls for my dog when he visits . My dog loves him has never even thought of starting a war with my brother.
"The popular sport were know and zero today" LOL
It was a good line.
Can you kindly explain me the meaning of his joke in that line? because English is not my native language 🙏
@@h-dvlpm so in the video he says the term 0 in tennis doesn't exist, it's called "love" so it wouldn't be "the score is zero to thirty" it would be "thirty, Love". Thoughty2 uses this terminology when he says the usual saying "Know and love" to make it "know and ZERO".
@@jaeger4703 ahh i see, thanks a lot for the clear explanation
I played Real/Royal Tennis at Macquarie University, Australia, back in the 90's.
I never enjoyed modern Tennis, but really enjoyed this older, more enclosed, version of the game.
Thank you I love these videos I been watching you from 16k subs never would I think you’d be at the top of the search bar on many people RUclips’s
Great video sir. Been following you since the early years and it's been awesome to see you evolve. Keep up the great work.
Geeze Thoughty! You just unscrambled my conundrum over tennis scores. Every time I watched a match I figured I missed something or was blacking out! (didn't think my pot was that good)
Thanks for all the videos!!
Thank you for the video! I get excited and giddy when you post!
Tennis? Well, I LOVE ALL your episodes. Quite naturally.
Arran, thx for your content. I really enjoy them. Cheers from Portugal
6:33 "The popular game we all know and *zero* today, evolved from an earlier sport called Real Tennis..."
Had to get that in there, didn't you?
Very interesting! I love your videos, man! One of my favorite channels!!!
THE ORIGINAL TENNIS SCORE WAS CALLED THOUGHTY 2😊😅😊
Tennis is the game where All you need is love.
🤣🤣🤣 Especially if you want to net a win
This is going RiiiGHT over people's heads. But it was a knee slapper fursurrrre. 😭☠️🤙✌️🖖
Sounds like a beatles song
I look forward to your videos every week and have your books. Thank you.
Thoughty, since you did such a stellar job explaining the backstory of tennis, I have a challenge for you: I have never found anyone who can successfully explain CRICKET to me. It makes no sense whatsoever to the casual observer. There, take the challenge, if you dare.
I legitimately began to attempt it and yeah there's soooooooooooooooo much to explain.
tbf, I don't think it's any more confusing than American football if you've grown up with it.
What i find totally weird about American football is some players can go a whole career without ever touching the ball.
@@JustDaniel6764 and 99% of the players never touch the ball with their foot
@@neWworlDmaN83 😂😂Well yeah, Hand egg ball maybe
I've never given a toss about most sports and tennis is at the top of such a list. I'm more into archery, hatchet throwing, dueling, HEMA... that kinda thing. But you, Aaron, and your mojo are bloody effin' brilliant.
Another awesome video, keep up the great work! Always look forward to your content
That hidden UwU caught me so off guard nearly spit out my drink 😂😂
I'm not alone😂
Time stamp please
@@myscreen2urs4:34 listen closely
thanks for posting i love your content!
I love the channel and how you narrate in your videos love from kenya
Birthplace of Obama!
Henry V supposedly spent his youth in various forms of debauchery and frivolity, including games of tennis, rather than being serious about the responsibilities involved in eventually becoming a king.
The Dauphin's gift of tennis balls was meant as an insult, highlighting Henry's past dereliction of duty and insinuating that he (Henry) was unfit to rule.
I eat gun for breakfast
You're doing it wrong. Make sure it's loaded first
I like eggs 🥚
Does anyone else want to eat mademoiselle crabaletta with some butter?
That 1st bite a spicy meatball
There’s no health benefits it’s an old doctor myth. That’s not good for your health
Hey Aaron, glad to gain more knowledge
Informative as always 👍🏼
Nice Big Lebowski reference at 14:52! Well done, sir.
I use to play Tennis in high school 🎾 Never won a single match but I had fun
These are great videos! Fun. Where does the title thoughty2 come from?
Cribbage has a very similar scoring system. Maybe they share a common element🤔
Hella cool video! just wanna say, that thumbnail gave me an interesting deja vu that helped me in one of my hobbies of conscious research. hella cool bruh!
Thank you. I love these videos
I’ve played tennis my entire life. I’ve thought about the scoring and I think it’s actually very simple and less confusing if you were to score 1,2,3,4 game. I know it sounds weird but in the heat of the moment it’s easier to remember 30-15, 30-30, 30-love 40-15 than 2-1, 2-2, 2-0, 3,1. Most people get confused about the score during tiebreaks which are scored 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 (tiebreaks end when a player gets to 7 first but ahead by at least 2 points). Most disputes about the score happen during tiebreaks which indicate when under pressure it’s hard remembering simple number patterns. Just my thoughts from experience.
Love the history of Tennis! Great Video! 🙏
One of the best channel on RUclips!!
Love from India❤️
Except his episode about Oak Island, its full of unsubstantiated assertions. His accusations of the show's fake-ness are a projection of his own fabrication.
His take did not age well, and is based on fiction, and not the actual carbon dating of artifacts recovered.
Perhaps he should issue a correction.
@@poolboy1690 maximum cope
Thanks for these wonderful contents 🙏🏽
Amazing video like always thoughty I never miss a video!
6:40 I'm 99% certain that "real" meant royal in Old Spanish, can somebody confirm?
I watch this channel because your a fantasic fact teller, not because of your thumbnail.. thank you for your work and dedication Thoughty❤
Since I was a kid I played many sports often and for several years. The summer before I started High School, my mom thought to Sign me up for tennis since she seen teenagers play to before and thought it looked fun.
When she said I had tennis lessons I wasn’t happy. She said just go and try it. So I did. It ended up being a sport I enjoyed and was naturally good at. Even the tennis instructor said I’m a natural at tennis.
In high school I played all 4 years. Varsity, we had to play 7 sets. Of course, was on the JV team as a freshman.
Anyways, I love smashing the overheaders and the opponent was so mad at me. 😂 But that’s what I was taught in tennis lessons to smash them hard so I could get an easy win for points. I was mostly a singles player meaning just me against 1 opponent. There are doubles meaning 2 people play against two other people and they have to work together and call if they think they can return the ball.
My backhand hits when so good it’s somewhat difficult for some people. Anyways, I never was good enough like those tennis pros, but good enough to win some matches at least. 😆
Thank you for another wonderful video!
Obviously, they changed 45 to 40 to make Thoughty2 sound like 42, and I don't know how but it works! Thanks for the tennis history lesson, Forty... oops, I mean Thoughty2.
Is his name a little joke on that film were every answer to every question is 42? I forget the name of the film right now 😂
Nicely done 😊
Thanks for the periodic dose of knowledge
Thanks for the video 🙏
Great video as always. 😊
Thanks a lot! I appreciate all of your work, and can't even describe how grateful I am. :)
The comic in you sure came out in this video. Love it!
“We’re going have to go all the way back in time to the 💥.” 😋
6:21 “The game we know and zero today. . . “ ROTFL 🤣
can't wait till you make videos about how modern fencing got its rues and scoring system
Great video mate
I’m so happy you are talking normally.. I couldn’t finish any of your videos before.. acting natural is always the way to go ❤
What do you mean?
Glad you dropped the stache. Looks so much better with just a little scruff.
As a french I love how cute it sound when you say "jeux de paumes" , good job.
That's French with a Lancashire accent.
Jus de poums!
Thanks for the video
Thanks for making learning fun again!
you are awesome, i really enjoyed this video thank you :))
Back to the Big Bang had me good 42, also i found it very fascinating about the minute hand being invented later on in time.
Thanks for the vid!
England: I don't want to talk to you
France: ok talk to my balls then
England: 🤬
😂😂😂
I enjoy your thumbnails Immensely, thank you for your content.
Love ya Thoughty2 !! My Homie! 😎
Thank you for another awesome story 😊
Thanks for sharing.
although probably not a reason for the scoring i think one important thing to mention is tennis' scoring results in a totally unique phenomenon where its not only about winning more points than the opponent, but winning important points. this has transformed it into a game of mental strength and pressure plays. you can lose more points than the opponent and still win
well done! feels almost like your older work..
Great video! I’ve always wondered about the reason but never bother to look it up. Turns out there wasn’t a concrete answer anyway.
The "African Hunting Dog" sounds hilarious
"The popular game we know and zero today" Haha! I appreciate.
Thanks. Big fan for a long time now.
Tennis has more than one royal family
WHOOOA OOHHH!
*Cody Rhodes enters the court* "Tennis is for Sodomites and women." *fireworks*
I know a guy that served with his racket at an angle which made the ball spin backwards returning to him. no way to return the serve. Don't know why it wouldn't be a legal serve. He could make it return over the net or off to any side he aimed for.
I think the most fascinating fact about the tennis scoring system is that a player can win the match despite winning fewer points than the opponent (or, in other words, a player can lose the match despite winning more points than the opponent).
The counting system that uses approaching the nets makes a lot of sense. While not quite as prevalent today, my dad talked about how "attacking the net" was what everyone did, nearly every game. Today people still stalk about "net game" meaning how good a player performs when they are close to or approaching the net. While a player choses when to approach the net, I wonder if historically one approached the net as a rule. Perhaps as time went on, certain players didn't want to approach the net so they made "house rules": Call out your score, but both players start at the base line and choose where they go from there. Modern tennis has gone the way of much more power and faster tennis ball speed, while we see players use the net less in singles tennis. In doubles...someone is usually at the net.
2:18 damn that's a nice set up
My dad was a tennis champ that he got a scholarship for it when he was in high school. He made us kids play it all the time but i was really a a soccer person because of my built. That's also how my mom at my dad she noticed him from her dorm playing against the backboard head or two courts we had at our college.
Love not war.
Don't forget The INFAMOUS Tennis Court Oath (1789).
It was *a key moment that set off the French Revolution.* On June 20, 1789, the Tennis Court Oath was taken. There, the men of the National Assembly swore an oath never to stop meeting until a constitution had been established.
Actually, the members of the French Third Estate took **the Jeu de Paume Oath** (French: Serment du Jeu de Paume) in the tennis court which had been built in 1686 for the use of the Palace of Versailles.Their vow "not to separate and to reassemble wherever necessary until the Constitution of the kingdom is established" were intro to French Revolution (1789)
Normal English speakers around the world:
Tennis has an 800 year secret
English and American teenagers:
Litterally Tennis have like 800 like years litterally of secrets
You and Danny Duncan are the only RUclipsrs I’ve watched every video from for years now love the vids
Thanks. Like a bunch. From all the years. Thanks
Thank you for the video
Arran, please go back to using the old thumbnail style. It was iconic. I understand the AI makes it easier but... It just lacks the old feel of excitement when you release a video🙏
According to Wikipedia they did have some clocks that marked minutes in the 1300s even though they didn’t have the minute hand.
Even if it wasn’t based on a clock, it would make more sense to use base 60 for any circular score keeping device they might have used. Circles have almost always been divided in base 60.
I could imagine they would have two dials on each side of the net, one to measure the games 1 through 6 (or maybe 10 through 60 originally) and then another for the points 0, 15, 30, 45, game. Just a theory.
That would help explain why the score goes to 40 instead of 45, that way they could use the 50 and 60 marks to help keep score since points don't matter just that a player won by 2, so being able to reset back to 40 would help a lot in keeping track of who's ahead. If both reached 40 then 40 would be tied, 50 would be a point ahead and 60 would be the winner, allowing them to go back to 40 on the clock as needed.
Unless, of course, you are a pilot
If the games won were marked off on a clockface type scoreboard as if they were pointing to the hours, then it would have made perfect sense for them to treat the subdivisions of the games as if they were the minutes needed to make up another hour, even if they weren't commonly using minute hands on actual clocks they certainly knew how many minutes the quarter of an hour etc was.
And as the other replier points out, when you find you need two different marks between 30 and game, for deuce and advantage, then it would also be natural to use 40 and 50 minute points. Given you can't evenly split 12 points into 5 gaps that would have been the best solution.
I read a book a while ago about tennis that included the history of the points system. According to the book, it was based on the clock face as suggested. The 40 came about due to duece - whoever got "advantage" was moved to 45 on the clock face so the third point was kept at 40.
This is what I read, and nothing was mentioned about the sets as far as I remember... although I tempted to go back and see if it is. To me it makes sense and possibly it's 6 for a set as a best of three sets needing 12 games - the 12 on a clock. This would mean each person has a clock face each, a minute hand for points, hour hand for games. That part is just a guess though 🤷🏻♂️
Yay, Beethoven's 7th symphony, second movement!
I did not know there is a royalty-free recording usable as a background music.
Thanks, never knew that scoring system!
Thanks for the interesting video, it’s amazing that no one has an answer!!
I never really got going with tennis as the tennis courts at my school were positioned so that the players on one side of the court were blinded by the sun!!
One thing that separates lawn tennis from all other types of tennis is the sounds of people having an orgasm.
There's less noise in an adult movie than Wimbledon. 😆
This was absolutely fascinating! Thanks for bringing all of that history to life, who knew tennis was so instrumental in European history!