I had an 04 just like this. What amazed me is the body panels were like new, even the rocker panels, but the frame rotted away up front on mine. Where the sway bar mounted and up towards the engine mounts. The rest was solid.
@@Jvcomet you’re right, absolute garbage steel. Toyota replaced the frame on my 2005. The 2004 had a rebuilt title so Toyota wouldn’t honour the service campaign (not a warranty, they’re quick to make that clarification) my 2023 tundra has a new frame design so we’ll see in a few years what’s what with that.
It is garbage steel and poor work quality. I have 2004 4runner made in Japan and except of some surface rust, frame is clean! Sad to say but Taco are made in USA...
@10:18 - What all mechanics need to understand is that often bolts are too long. With a Toyota, being made from recycled rusty swing sets, lawnmowers and soup cans, the metal is junk; you need to chop off those excess threads before trying to back them out. Because you didn't you stripped the threads in that bracket. The center bearing on the Tacoma driveshaft is the perfect example. I didn't see a good shot in this video, but they are at least 20mm too long and that extra metal just hangs out in the air getting rusty and swelling. If you leave those excess corroded threads, the bolt can't pull them thru the female threads. Use a sawzall, die grinder, whatever, but cut off the excess threads as close to the top of the nut (or threaded surface) as possible. Often that heat from cutting of those excess threads will heat up the remaining threads enough for them to back out. I often replace OEM bolts with shorter bolts so that just a couple threads stick out beyond the finished surface and they come out easily for future repairs. And, always use grease or never seize...
That's actually a sloppy job I don't like it at all I seen you get the prefabricated Parts you got to stand that whole f****** frame down to bad battle and traded and then weld prefabricated Parts charge if you're going to go that route I'll start doing it all and don't even buy the f****** shock I wouldn't buy a f****** truck but I rotted frame I don't care how nice it was I'm not typing what I meant to say you got to stand the frame down to bare metal and then treated with rust reformer and all kind of treatment then we'll do the prefabricated partial look-alike better be a lot stronger than making your own s*** do you want to spend a $500 well job because he held aloof AJ are bumps or whatever or shock it off is a week for a minute or rock the other way of showcasing so far won't even buy a truck with a frame like that paintbrush it even though I did find one in the past use it for parts and then I just told me helping fund own cardboard boxes to make a difference anyway what the f***** the triplets are so looking for $2,000 and I paid 23 for it so I lost money but I got the parts that I needed the door a couple of interior parts to bed liner I just wanted some minor s*** the fender and the door was the same color so I put the other ones back on with a couple little things in it I was lucky to get rid of that piece use some cardboard Bondo and take the whole thing black put a bed liner in the back of a shot to look great white 2 wheel drive in about 15 years ago maybe longer trouble
I am in Richmond VA and about to have a very similar repair done on my 2nd Gen Tacoma. Aren't you concerned about welding plates over the metal that is already rusting? I am only asking. But It seems like the exact same inside metal rusting is going to start again. Again, I am honestly asking for education before I pay lots of 0's for this same work. Also, you could email me how much this work costs. I could drive down..... 😁
When doing your bends on the brake , just measure Off your top die to edge of material or evan another mark in say a channel to your mark spin then off inside of previous bend , your measurement less half of your top die thickness puts you on your mark 100% Acurate when perfection counts
Same question as RVA from below: welding new steel over old rusty metal seems counterintuitive. Once rust starts it spreads like cancer unless cut completely out. My 2000 Tundra frame rusted where the factory lapped and riveted the two frame channels together at the rear, the metal started to delaminate and actually pushed the two frame rails apart. Seems like trapping old rust under a new "frame rail" will have the same ill effects over time.
We had an Alpha Romeo come in with an oil pan that was rusted through. Exhaust didn’t look too good either, but we weren’t allowed to fully replace it by the customer.
the video makes it look easy, but this work is definitely not easy! Those with new trucks in the rust belt get it fluid film'ed every 6 months, spring and fall...
Nice brake. You're making me jealous 😂 I've fixed 4 tundras including my own. But the few customers I've done only had to repair the front of the frame where the sway bar is mounted, surprisingly the rest was still good for being in Pennsylvania
@Jvcomet I finally got mine back in the garage and started getting the rockers done. They were getting bad and didn't want to wait until it started eating into the floor. It's bad enough I have to make the inner rockers and I don't even have the time to fix my own. It took me 3 years to get the lower control arms done and had them just as long 😂
I’ve done a couple and everytime wish the customer would’ve said no or I’d priced myself outta the job. On a quiet day you can hear a Toyota rust, the owners are too loyal even after buying scrap metal trucks they just can’t can’t let go of them
Toyota was buying them back or they would replace the frame for free. Seemed to be on the early 2000's and older. My gf had the chassis replaced on a 06 and bought out right on a 03 tacoma. Those were no were the condition of the one in the video, I looked hard to find a sign of rust on hers. Toyota saw something I couldnt see. She has a 08 now and no sign of failure?! My 1999 GMC chassis also rotted away I was told its because I washed it and parked it in the garage wet too often ..LOL! No coverage by GMC. My '15 Tacoma chassis looks like new!
You think that that's crap on paint is going to slow the Trojan down as bullshits try to make it worse to her to make the bed frames and that's the way it goes either across the doors in The Rustic you don't clean the frame oil the frame up your f***** by putting a Toyota coating on it it doesn't do nothing and only makes it worse apparently never had one on one show that people just looking on here shouldn't buy one you don't know nothing about the truck I wouldn't buy anything else but a first-generation Tacoma the great vehicle 2nd Generation stuff third-generation sucks even more and go on and the generation before the first generation they start with a 22R that garbage 222r is a piece of s***
These frames are designed to rust apart in about 10 years nowadays so they can sell more new trucks and screw everybody all over again. Vicious cycle! Toyota replaced my Tacoma frame in 2008. I paint it every couple years but they still rust out from the inside. I should have filled all the holes that let water and crud in.
I recently purchased a 1995 Tacoma xtracab 4x4. The frame needs a bit of work. I'm in Ontario Canada, does anyone know of a good place to take it for frame repair? I've purchased all the components from Safe-T-Cap.
Frame repair like that depending on how far back it goes and if the gas tank needs to be removed.and if it’s not rotted to ere that would need repair. Basic frame repair is around 1300 a side
@@Jvcomet may I ask where you’re located and I have a 2009 Toyota Tacoma with major frame rust. Don’t know if it’s salvageable but I would like your opinion and maybe bring it to you if interested
@@Jvcomet yes....to replace the frame. Like I said, I found a frame that includes shipping for less than $3k. Just don't know how much I have save for labor
@@Jvcomet good to know. Thank you Guess I'll sell it for parts. Everything on it is awesome, just the frame is crap. V6, 220,000 miles, just had the oil changed and tranny flushed. 4x4 as well.
well,they are doing great jpb on this Toy but,,,,here NO safety lens,no gloves,,safety hats,,,,,i dont know but it is to bad for the video !! Without that it is great video,
I get it chevy with thr lifter failure, ford shakes, mopar is jist junk but damn frames rusting out is unacceptable. Rather pull an engine and rebuild than replace a frame. Almost a 20k job
Toyota could make alots of money if they just made those frame braces like that their selfs a slide in and weld up but they want people to hafe to buy a knew vechicle
And only one of them had a friend like that I basically got rid of it lucky to get rid of it I basically used it for parts my other one and then just got my money back after I took the other parts off the other truck but yeah they weren't worth that kind of money extra bodies things for $3,000 all day long and they ran great I didn't want the four-wheel-drive ones I like the mini trucks 2-wheel drive stick shift that's the way to go less weight or they can rest up to but they drive better and better on gas fuc the four-wheel-drive she can get a prerunner regular cab I got a real nice one right now probably the best I can get for the money $5,500 and brand new frame with 100,000 Mi on it in mint condition never use the truck I wouldn't sell it for no less actually I don't want to sell it at all somebody gave me $20,000 I'll sell it but never find another one equal to it I'll probably find another one but I'll be in order about it I don't want it or not it don't even got to get this truck in the feisty with 2.4.7 and it part 3 got the balance shaft
Toyota still hasn’t learned his lesson I have a 2014 tundra SR5 off-road TRD rust on it as bad as the 2004 that I had these trucks are not cheap Toyota does nothing for you about it Only drive it back-and-forth to work Oh yeah I forgot to mention I have 13,000 miles on it
@@ninja23313 if the rot is like the one in the video. Not bad around the rear. But rotten down the center. It’s around 2500 but take good pictures so I can see what needs to be done.
I had an 04 just like this. What amazed me is the body panels were like new, even the rocker panels, but the frame rotted away up front on mine. Where the sway bar mounted and up towards the engine mounts. The rest was solid.
Yep seen it a lot. It’s just the poor steel quality. 😫
@@Jvcomet you’re right, absolute garbage steel. Toyota replaced the frame on my 2005. The 2004 had a rebuilt title so Toyota wouldn’t honour the service campaign (not a warranty, they’re quick to make that clarification) my 2023 tundra has a new frame design so we’ll see in a few years what’s what with that.
It is garbage steel and poor work quality. I have 2004 4runner made in Japan and except of some surface rust, frame is clean! Sad to say but Taco are made in USA...
The frame was essentially an anode rod for the body
Exactly what mine is doing now how did you fix it??
Great work! I have an 03 Prerunner that I bought new here in Central Fl. has very little rust.
Your one of the luck ones 😀👍
What a thorough job well done I just passed on 05 4 runner because of bad frame that was what I was dealing with thank you
It is a band aid job
@10:18 - What all mechanics need to understand is that often bolts are too long. With a Toyota, being made from recycled rusty swing sets, lawnmowers and soup cans, the metal is junk; you need to chop off those excess threads before trying to back them out. Because you didn't you stripped the threads in that bracket. The center bearing on the Tacoma driveshaft is the perfect example. I didn't see a good shot in this video, but they are at least 20mm too long and that extra metal just hangs out in the air getting rusty and swelling. If you leave those excess corroded threads, the bolt can't pull them thru the female threads. Use a sawzall, die grinder, whatever, but cut off the excess threads as close to the top of the nut (or threaded surface) as possible. Often that heat from cutting of those excess threads will heat up the remaining threads enough for them to back out. I often replace OEM bolts with shorter bolts so that just a couple threads stick out beyond the finished surface and they come out easily for future repairs. And, always use grease or never seize...
Thanks for the tip and sharing 👍
Is it alright to use grease? I always wanted to, but worried it would allow the bolts to back out?
It’s fine. Or anti/sieze. Would be better. They won’t back out.
How do you charge for something like that?? Do you bid it or just hourly plus materials?? Thanks!!
You give someone the I don't want to do it price and hope they don't want it done 😂 I got stuck doing a few including my own. Rust sucks
It needs a new frame
Wow…what a mess! You guys amaze me. Good work!
All these Toyota’s. Are bad.
That's actually a sloppy job I don't like it at all I seen you get the prefabricated Parts you got to stand that whole f****** frame down to bad battle and traded and then weld prefabricated Parts charge if you're going to go that route I'll start doing it all and don't even buy the f****** shock I wouldn't buy a f****** truck but I rotted frame I don't care how nice it was I'm not typing what I meant to say you got to stand the frame down to bare metal and then treated with rust reformer and all kind of treatment then we'll do the prefabricated partial look-alike better be a lot stronger than making your own s*** do you want to spend a $500 well job because he held aloof AJ are bumps or whatever or shock it off is a week for a minute or rock the other way of showcasing so far won't even buy a truck with a frame like that paintbrush it even though I did find one in the past use it for parts and then I just told me helping fund own cardboard boxes to make a difference anyway what the f***** the triplets are so looking for $2,000 and I paid 23 for it so I lost money but I got the parts that I needed the door a couple of interior parts to bed liner I just wanted some minor s*** the fender and the door was the same color so I put the other ones back on with a couple little things in it I was lucky to get rid of that piece use some cardboard Bondo and take the whole thing black put a bed liner in the back of a shot to look great white 2 wheel drive in about 15 years ago maybe longer trouble
I am in Richmond VA and about to have a very similar repair done on my 2nd Gen Tacoma. Aren't you concerned about welding plates over the metal that is already rusting? I am only asking. But It seems like the exact same inside metal rusting is going to start again. Again, I am honestly asking for education before I pay lots of 0's for this same work. Also, you could email me how much this work costs. I could drive down..... 😁
Depending on how much needs to be repaired. And what side. Give me a call. 914-4904306
It needs a new frame , and it needs to be frame off job if you want to patch
When doing your bends on the brake , just measure
Off your top die to edge of material or evan another mark in say a channel to your mark spin then off inside of previous bend , your measurement less half of your top die thickness puts you on your mark 100%
Acurate when perfection counts
Thanks for sharing 👍
Same question as RVA from below: welding new steel over old rusty metal seems counterintuitive. Once rust starts it spreads like cancer unless cut completely out. My 2000 Tundra frame rusted where the factory lapped and riveted the two frame channels together at the rear, the metal started to delaminate and actually pushed the two frame rails apart. Seems like trapping old rust under a new "frame rail" will have the same ill effects over time.
it will outlast the rest of the frame.
I use hockey pucks to replace old body/bed mounts and trailer hitch pins for exhaust hangers, nice work guys keep it up
That’s a great idea. Thanks for sharing. Appreciate you watching a channel.
Did you drill drain holes?
I was thinking same water got drain out from ore rust out really fast
We had an Alpha Romeo come in with an oil pan that was rusted through. Exhaust didn’t look too good either, but we weren’t allowed to fully replace it by the customer.
the video makes it look easy, but this work is definitely not easy! Those with new trucks in the rust belt get it fluid film'ed every 6 months, spring and fall...
Good advice. Thanks for sharing 👍
Safety first … love the cheek protectors.
Lol
Nice brake. You're making me jealous 😂 I've fixed 4 tundras including my own. But the few customers I've done only had to repair the front of the frame where the sway bar is mounted, surprisingly the rest was still good for being in Pennsylvania
Give me a call.
@Jvcomet I finally got mine back in the garage and started getting the rockers done. They were getting bad and didn't want to wait until it started eating into the floor. It's bad enough I have to make the inner rockers and I don't even have the time to fix my own. It took me 3 years to get the lower control arms done and had them just as long 😂
@@Car_paint_er ok cool glad your getting it done. Thanks for sharing
@muddytracker404 👍
I’ve done a couple and everytime wish the customer would’ve said no or I’d priced myself outta the job. On a quiet day you can hear a Toyota rust, the owners are too loyal even after buying scrap metal trucks they just can’t can’t let go of them
I have a lot of those trucks in the last 20 years like 40 or 50 of them
Nothing rusts like a Toyota.
Lol
True, but will out last any GM, Ford, and Dodge truck out there😂
@@RCCustomRepairs If you consider turning to powder lasting. My 28 year old GMC with no rust begs to differ.
@@theRooster722 I stand by what I said, yours is just one so far😂
@@RCCustomRepairs you won't find a 28 year old Toyota without rust, not one .
Nice work! What kind of welder do you use for this? I wish you guys did work on the west coast.
Lincoln SP-135. MiG welder. Works great. You just a little too far. But thanks for watching 👍
Toyota was buying them back or they would replace the frame for free. Seemed to be on the early 2000's and older. My gf had the chassis replaced on a 06 and bought out right on a 03 tacoma. Those were no were the condition of the one in the video, I looked hard to find a sign of rust on hers. Toyota saw something I couldnt see.
She has a 08 now and no sign of failure?! My 1999 GMC chassis also rotted away I was told its because I washed it and parked it in the garage wet too often ..LOL! No coverage by GMC. My '15 Tacoma chassis looks like new!
It’s hit or miss with lots of vehicles. The metal quality is crazy. Thanks for sharing and appreciate you watching
I need to repair my tacoma 2004, how much is the cost?
Do you guys ever use ospho when your done welding?
Not familiar with that what is it. Thanks
@Jvcomet it is an amazing rust converter. Amazon sells it. Popular near the east coast in the marine Industry.
@@IronMan-ml5yi I’ll check in to it thanks
I'm a decent welder and love
to weld but honestly if my truck frame was that bad I'd use it for parts or sell it unless ot had sentimental value
Problem is trucks are so crazy expensive so fixing them becomes a better option some times. Thanks for sharing
Iam surprised that toyota didnt galvinise the frames to slow corrosion down
Would cost too much 😎
You think that that's crap on paint is going to slow the Trojan down as bullshits try to make it worse to her to make the bed frames and that's the way it goes either across the doors in The Rustic you don't clean the frame oil the frame up your f***** by putting a Toyota coating on it it doesn't do nothing and only makes it worse apparently never had one on one show that people just looking on here shouldn't buy one you don't know nothing about the truck I wouldn't buy anything else but a first-generation Tacoma the great vehicle 2nd Generation stuff third-generation sucks even more and go on and the generation before the first generation they start with a 22R that garbage 222r is a piece of s***
These frames are designed to rust apart in about 10 years nowadays so they can sell more new trucks and screw everybody all over again. Vicious cycle! Toyota replaced my Tacoma frame in 2008. I paint it every couple years but they still rust out from the inside. I should have filled all the holes that let water and crud in.
What state are u located in? U do the best work on frames that i have seen. Just in case i need mine done. I'm in upstate NY.
New Jersey 08332. 👍
@@Jvcomethow much will it cost me to get my sequoia fixed
Give me a call
In my area any vehicle from 2004 has rusted out years ago.
Where’s that. Northeast ?
What kind of welding does your dad do? MIG or flux core? I wish I had this skill!
McGuire with Gas not fluxcore
Nice work!
Thanks
I recently purchased a 1995 Tacoma xtracab 4x4. The frame needs a bit of work. I'm in Ontario Canada, does anyone know of a good place to take it for frame repair? I've purchased all the components from Safe-T-Cap.
We can do it all but I’m in Millville New Jersey 08332.
John you guys are the best
Thanks buddy
Nice work ! $1k per side was what I read ! Do you still do this ? I would like it done to my GX470
Yea let know
Can you say what the price range would be for that kind of work ?.
Frame repair like that depending on how far back it goes and if the gas tank needs to be removed.and if it’s not rotted to ere that would need repair. Basic frame repair is around 1300 a side
@@Jvcomet may I ask where you’re located and I have a 2009 Toyota Tacoma with major frame rust. Don’t know if it’s salvageable but I would like your opinion and maybe bring it to you if interested
@@davidrooks1846 I’m in Millville New Jersey. Give me a call. 914-490-4306
I’m surprised you wear a hood while welding with the lack of PPE on everything else you use😅
😀
This man is really out here welding without gloves lol
My 01 passed it's 15 year frame inspection; at 19 yrs holes began to appear. Toyota's off the hook and I'm on with repairs😣
Ed c
Yep and now your on your own because it’s to late. 😫
Fantastic job
Thanks for watching 👍
How long are these type of repairs expected to last?
Probably till it dies. It will definitely outlive the rest of the truck.
Doesn't make a bit of f****** stats on this translate the whole thing
How long did the job take?
Couple days.
where are you located? would like to get some work done
Millville New Jersey
@@Jvcomet how can I reach you. See if you can do some frame welding.
@@enriqueg1987 914-490-4306
How much does a job like this cost?
Depends on how bad. But usually around 12-1500 aside
How much does cost to fix something like that
Couple grand.
How much does a job like that cost
All depends on how much rust. Contact me if you need help
So I got a 99 that needs a new frame. Found one for less than 3k. How much does labor run on a frame job?
To replace the frame?
@@Jvcomet yes....to replace the frame. Like I said, I found a frame that includes shipping for less than $3k. Just don't know how much I have save for labor
We don’t get involved in a complete replacement. Way too much work. Can’t charge you more than what anew truck cost😫
@@Jvcomet good to know. Thank you Guess I'll sell it for parts. Everything on it is awesome, just the frame is crap. V6, 220,000 miles, just had the oil changed and tranny flushed. 4x4 as well.
Yea someone will still buy it.
How much does something like this usually run you?
All depends on how bad and how far back the rust goes. They’re all different but around 1200 a side to start.
@@Jvcometthanks for the prompt response! Great work
Where are they located?
Millville New Jersey
6:19 omg that's a lot of rust
Great job
Thanks appreciate it
well,they are doing great jpb on this Toy but,,,,here NO safety lens,no gloves,,safety hats,,,,,i dont know but it is to bad for the video !! Without that it is great video,
I get it chevy with thr lifter failure, ford shakes, mopar is jist junk but damn frames rusting out is unacceptable. Rather pull an engine and rebuild than replace a frame. Almost a 20k job
It’s all crazy. 😀thanks for watching 👍
Toyota could make alots of money if they just made those frame braces like that their selfs a slide in and weld up but they want people to hafe to buy a knew vechicle
Exactly 😎. Thanks for watching
Yes I'm not typing I'm using Google talk to text so if you don't understand it don't read it
Where is your shop at?
Millville. At my house. Lol.
Where are you located
@@Jvcomet sewell
Practically neighbors come see me sometime😀
@@Jvcomet i want to send you pictures of my frame. Email? or Cell?
And only one of them had a friend like that I basically got rid of it lucky to get rid of it I basically used it for parts my other one and then just got my money back after I took the other parts off the other truck but yeah they weren't worth that kind of money extra bodies things for $3,000 all day long and they ran great I didn't want the four-wheel-drive ones I like the mini trucks 2-wheel drive stick shift that's the way to go less weight or they can rest up to but they drive better and better on gas fuc the four-wheel-drive she can get a prerunner regular cab I got a real nice one right now probably the best I can get for the money $5,500 and brand new frame with 100,000 Mi on it in mint condition never use the truck I wouldn't sell it for no less actually I don't want to sell it at all somebody gave me $20,000 I'll sell it but never find another one equal to it I'll probably find another one but I'll be in order about it I don't want it or not it don't even got to get this truck in the feisty with 2.4.7 and it part 3 got the balance shaft
How much is this repair about??
About 1K per side. Depends on how bad it goes back into the rear spring area.
@@Jvcomet at least one of my rear shock mounts are rusted out too. Have you done 4runners too?
Yea they’re all pretty much the same setup
Where are you guys located
@@JWill-k1x Millville
Toyota still hasn’t learned his lesson I have a 2014 tundra SR5 off-road TRD rust on it as bad as the 2004 that I had these trucks are not cheap Toyota does nothing for you about it Only drive it back-and-forth to work Oh yeah I forgot to mention I have 13,000 miles on it
Wow that sucks. Thanks for watching
Good work
Thanks for watching
We’re you located How far from Michigan
New Jersey. 08332. Millville
@@Jvcomet thank you how much do you charge for job like this I wanna buy one but it’s rusted on the frame
@@ninja23313 if the rot is like the one in the video. Not bad around the rear. But rotten down the center. It’s around 2500 but take good pictures so I can see what needs to be done.
Ok thx
Does anyone make aftermarket frames for Toyota
Not that I know.
Remove the metal, don’t cover it with new material
Jacka** Repairs 🙃🙃