Omri I'm not gonna exaggerate: This is a complete gamechanger for VCV/Cardinal. Especially for people like me who use saved patches in productions and performances. You just potentially turned this environment into like, Modular Kontakt.
I've never gasped more in one video. This DOES change everything! The last time I felt this excited was when I discovered Plaits and VCV itself😂 Thank you!!!!
This immediately looks like a very natural way to work. Someone on the live chat phrased it rather beautifully - that it will make working with VCV more like driving a car, and less like working on the engine.
The capacity of this Mind Meld plugin is incredible thanks to the developers. You can tell they love music. This is a before and after like your Mixer and Bass control. Excellent video Omri. Thank you Totally!
You come home after a long day and find this video in the subscriptions. Simply awesome and unexpectedly fantastic. I really need to try this with my Faderfox EC4. A big thank you to the developers and Omri!
Been using bitwig for about a year. Now this!!! I'm very impressed with MindMeld. Shapemaster pro is my goto for modulation but this takes things to a new level with those macros.
As others have said, a game-changer: makes sound design and performance way smoother, and looks SO cool. Beginner here, but just for fun I added an off/on quantiser and octave control to DFAM; inauthentic, but I like the added ease of sequencing. Congratulations and many thanks to all concerned.
WOW! This is an excellent addition to VCV Rack! This makes it so much more clear. I'm now off downloading your revised DFAM and then continue watching the rest of this video. ;)
This is incredible. I use rack inside Ableton mainly as custom effects and synths. Each time I load a selection that's god knows how many modules worth I'm so lost in the patch. This is gonna help so much, I was hoping for something like it a while ago. Thank you so much Omri and the devs at Mindmeld.
Thank you so much for this perfect set of tools. I didn't use it already, but your video says all of its potential. thank you again, I'm so often confused with my overwhelming patches. So smart, so clean, thank you again!!
To be honest, this is a big thing. Big Kudos to you MM and you Omri. Especially the fact that, one it's easy to simplify things and bring it all together and two bind it to an external controller. Who needs Eurorack modules anymore Cheers for the nice tutorial!
This is absolutely brilliant! Omri, your videos are so powerfully enabling. This newbie to modular cannot thank you enough. Joined your patreon and am watching and learning from your videos.. Oh Yeah!
I'm using an M1 macbook so I downloaded the ARM64 version and didnt get really far. Installed it but it just hid my other mindmeld modules, had to update mindmeld to get them back but no patchmaster. Downloaded the Mac build, installed, worked fine. This is for anyone running ito this issue. FYI, its amazing!
This is awesome! I actually do 3D animation, which suffers the same issue of parameter hell. The common solution is to create a control object that has all the important parameters in one place, so you can make changes from a central interface. Great work!
I was thinking about idea how to bundle modules not to see all those small controls into some building blocks . here it is briliant idea how to simplify patch. I will be able update my live setup patches wo hooo. thank you Omri! amd MM
Much more useful in standalone VCV, but when using VCV in a DAW as vst, you'll probably have some options for creating macros with different ranges. I use Reason and it has a combinator. FL studio Cubase and Ableton also have it's versions. Still, this is a great contribution to a VCV rack. Thanks.
This is really great. One thing I didn't see you do when range mapping. Can you map the range of a knob or slider in reverse - to start at 100% and end in 0%. Imagine two different voices running into a mixer and you want to fade between the two voices. You map the mixer sliders to a single control, but one mixer slider is mapped in reverse of the other. As you move the MindMeld slider the two level sliders on the mixer will swap places. I've done this from scratch using an attenu-verter with base level offset but it would be cleaner if the MM module could do it in it's multiple mapping and level settings.
That's pretty cool to have a remote control for everything. Now one of the few tricks left is to make this kind of thing work from another window instance so the big rack with visuals and blinkenlights can be recorded for video while you do live inputs on the less exciting to look at but very useful controller that has everything in one spot. (Or is that covered already too?) If you don't have a MIDI controller input setup it's like virtualizing that too, but if you do then you put MIDI on your "MIDI" for multiple controls chained together so it still proves quite useful either way.
this is awsome an i really want to try it but im having trouble installing it :( i put the .vcvplugin file and the sourcecode folder in the plugin directory. vcv generates a new mindmeldmodular folder but doesnt use the one i put there from github. what am i doing wrong? installing the surgext plugins from github worked immediately. thanks in advance
If you see some MindMeld modules but not the new ones, this may be because you subscribed to individual modules on the Rack library rather than the entire plugin - if you do that it means new modules won't show up (as you have not subscribed to them) - Rack library sucks for this... If that's the case, unsubscribe from Mindmeld entirely then resubscribe to the whole plugin again (not individual modules within it) - then the new modules should show up. btw you only need to put the .vcvplugin file in the plugin directory, nothing else.
This is amazing !!!!!!! I have been piecing together "interfaces" that look bloated and busy with knobs and buttons from various other brands. This will clean things up so much and help me get ideas across to other musicians. Is there any chance I can ever so kindly put a feature request in?? If so, I would request a horizontal "separator" that is essentially a VU meter that has various voltage ranges and Unipolar/Bipolar options.... Having that element of feedback on the layout would be very helpful. I use a lot of the NYSTHI 1M/2M for visual feedback on what my LFOs and gain is doing. I am sure you all thought of that already though, and it may not be as simple from a coding standpoint though...
I just finished creating a Moog Grandmother, and thanks to this awesome set of tools and your explanation here, it is really fun to play. If you're still working with MM on modules, I have a few feature requests if I may? I would love a horizontal 2- or 3-way toggle switch A meter strip! Double and triple-wide modules, with horizontal faders, horizontal radio buttons, and bigger buttons and knobs, with one, two, or three-wide labels A patch bank that lets you map ins and outs of various modules (with enough space for labels between each patch point) Individual patch points, 1 or two per standard module Background color options for the module labels, and what the heck, background colors for the blank modules themselves. #hex color options or any enterable format besides dragging OK, Christmas is over. Thanks again for your always awesome explanations. I've learned so much this year!
Since I just recognized your logo, please let me just say that I love Tap Dancer and Oppressor Pro. I appreciate your work and want to thank you for your modules!
This is amazing. One question I have after watching: is it self-controllable? Ie. If I can map a controller knob to another controller knob then you could map infinite parameters instead of just 4. Definitely going to try this when I get home!
@@marcboule Sure does! ruclips.net/video/O9-OtaBuB4A/видео.html Thanks for the reply and for the awesome work on all the MindMeld modules! Really fantastic stuff; I could not imagine using Rack without them.
It's probably because you have subscribed to individual Mindmeld modules in the library rather than the entire plugin. So Rack thinks you have not subscribed to these new modules and therefore hides them (the opt-in library module subscription system sucks for this reason). To fix, unsubscribe from MindMeld entirely, then resubscribe to the plugin (NOT individual modules). 2.1.1 v 2.2.0 shouldn't matter.
@@stevebaker2896 thank you for your help ! what do you mean by "then resubscribe to the plugin (NOT individual modules)" ? I only have the option of subscribe to the individual MindMeld modules on the library, don't I ?
@@micky_stewart No you don't. When you are on the library page, in top right corner you will see links for 'plugins' and 'reset filters'. Click on 'plugins'. Now you see a list of all the plugins. Unsubscribe from Mindmeld. Then resubscribe. Edit: Oh I missed your 'nevermind' post above haha. Glad to hear you got it working :)
I just starting using this a couple of days ago. It works great for most things I have tried, and is, as has been mentioned a game changer. Is there a chance you will be updating it in the future? Ideally to add a couple of things that would display data from a module? In particular a display for BPM, and a way to add small lights, either individually or to turn on the light on a button remotely. Both of these features would be huge when trying to add a sequencer to the UI. Another great addition would be a toggle switch with a label for each position. Maybe even in the form of a side by side, two small button, radio button option.
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for responding Omri. I was thinking about it more this morning and I'm not even sure if what I suggested would be possible. I have been having a lot of fun with it so far anyway. I'm getting close to having a finished version of the project I am working on and it has definitely been a big help. THANK YOU!!!
This is nearly my dream - if the PatchMaster module set also had inputs and outputs you could build entirely new MODULES who's behaviour was implemented by the underlying modules. You would only see and use) the inputs, output, and controls on the PatchMaster interfaces.
Yes, this something we're considering but for now, I use the RouteMaster modules to add a patchbay functionality. Have a look at this, for example - patchstorage.com/lets-build-the-moog-dfam-in-vcv-rack/
Great video Omri, inspiring as always. The DFAM example at 25:45 looks really nice. You mention there is a link to the patch but I can't find it. Is it a Patreon exclusive? Also, are there other 'reimagined' patches you are working on using the Patchmaster module? Thanks!
Thanks! No, it's not a Patreon exclusive. You can find it here - patchstorage.com/lets-build-the-moog-dfam-in-vcv-rack/ And yes, I have a few things planned :)
@@OmriCohen-Music Ok, I've only seen half of the video (had to go to work) and MIDI was going through my mind. While cycling to work these extra features came to mind - not right clicking but drawing (like patch cables) from the patchmaster knob to the knob(s) it has to control - hide all the actual modules, so you only see the patchmaster module - maybe even have some kind of kiosk-mode that only shows the patchmaster module - change the visual background of the patchmaker module to your likings
how can i make a sort of a patch-bay for recreating semi-modular synths. Either with this new collection or using other modules? ofcourse, the hardest thing for me to understand whith that is: how to make the patch points break the already made (hidden) connection when plugged into something else
@@OmriCohen-Music wow. the updated patch is really nice and well thought out! ive also watched the video. the manual switching on the patchbay is actually really nice. i will however *try* to find another sollution to do the patch bay, using stoermelders "mirror", and/or the teleport modules. Take care, cheers!
is there any way to control the patchmaster knobs with a cv cable input? ilove to use it for direct access when recording,would be rad to trigger them by some module. midi isnt an option, no hardware here...
This looks fantastic. One question: Can you save your custom modules as presets/templates? I thought I saw a “Save As” option in the right-click menu towards the end of the video, but I didn’t see it being specifically covered in the video. Thanks for the amazing demo, and thanks to the team for creating such a brilliant tool!
You can highlight multi-row selections (by click-dragging on a group of modules), then right-click on the group and "Save selection as". Rack itself unfortunately does not keep mapping intact when importing selections in the usual way (File > Import selection). But Ben Stoermelder has come to the rescue with a new module in his Pack One plugin called "S++". This is like his Strip module but instead of saving/importing Strips, it imports Rack selections with the mapping maintained. Just drop S++ into your patch, right-click on it to open the menu and do a Selection Import. S++ makes it possible to re-use PatchMaster constructs in other patches. S++ was only made a couple of days ago and therefore did not make it onto his Pack One submitted to the library recently - you will need to download and install his nightly build from GitHub to get it. github.com/stoermelder/vcvrack-packone/releases/tag/Nightly
This is not big... it's HUGE! How dope would it be to have a companion ipad app to mirror the exact layout of the patchmaster and control wirelessly? I guess it's doable. Ormi you're a blessing for the synth world!
I found out that you can use your ipad as a secondary screen and actually control plugins using the touchscreen from inside VCV. I'll try it out for sure.
Thanks :) I have all of the synths I built updated with an interface, including the Subharmonicon :) Have a look here - patchstorage.com/author/omri_cohen/
@@OmriCohen-Music wow that's great! Thank you man. ill say the only down side is a) that there is no feedback, like leds that indicate which step of which Seq. is playing. and B) its confusing to dial in values because they show % of the real values.
hi Omri, great video again. I was wondering if there is a way to lock a midi assigned parameter (1) in vcv rack so when you move to another bank on the midi controller and change the position of same knob that controls that parameter (1), when you go back to the bank on the midi controller that controls parameter (1) the value of that parameter will stay locked to its position until the physical knob on the controller matches that value.
Thanks! I think it depends on your Midi controller. You might be able to set the way it works and how it “catches up” to different values. Which one are you using?
Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm on a research to get one. I'm finding the Subzero mini control very interesting. If could just find a way to implement the function I'm talking about. I used to own a s2400 which was working that way and it was perfect. I asked chatgpt and it came up with an idea using sample & hold and trigger it with a gate which when activated would lock the fader. I'm sure this idea is getting somewhere but I can't seem to figure out how to make it wait for the physical controller to meet its value before it unlocks again.
Another question Omri: is there a way to add -- for example a knob or control -- that will allow me to load a specific patch, replacing the current patch with the new one? In other words, a control that could act as a file manager without having to use the mouse or menus to load the new patch, but instead click on a control that would load the new patch.
@@OmriCohen-Music Good heavens Omri you never fail! Also in that thread I saw the reference to Stoermelder's 'Strip' which looks interesting. Between Patchmaster and this Prefabs idea, VCV is moving into some exciting areas. A standalone synth workstation with multiple presets, pre-mapped midi controls - like on an Arturia Keylab Essentials keyboard - and running on a 'headless' system (no mouse, ascii keyboard, with Windows/mac OS in the background) seems closer than ever. BTW the thing on my desk -- Elgato Stream Deck -- can be used to run launch VCV with specific patches.
That opens a anozhe dimension of vCV Rack possybilities !! Thats would be nice work together with any MIDDI Controllers ( MIDILAR for example ) OMRI when will the modules be available??? Thank you very much !!!
Excellent. I noticed that when mapping, the module parameter takes the value of the controller. Shouldn't it be the other way around? the controller should take the value that the mapped module currently has.
That's something we'll be looking into in a future update. If it can be done it would only work for the first map though (of potentially 4) - you wouldn't want mapped control 1 to jump when you map control 2, which it would if the controller took the value of the newly mapped module control.
@@chelfyn not really unfortunately, but perhaps a week or two if all goes well. That's strange that it won't install, you should be able to drop it in your plugins folder and it will decompress it the next time you start rack. A good thing to try is also to delete the MindMeldModular folder in plugins beforehand, to make absolutely sure it can decompress property
@@marcboule I tried that, and also uninstalled the normal mindmeld plugins. The file decompresses on loading, but the mindmeld category is greyed out in the plugin list. It seems like others are having the same problem. Not to worry, I can wait until you are out of beta for this amazing addition to VCVRack. If there's anything I can do to help testing/fixing this issue reply with any suggestions.
I have a launchpad XL which has always been a pain to map. I think this module could probably help me to do this easily! Recreate the midi controller to PatchMaster and then work from there. Any thoughts on this?
this is so great...but i have a problem, when saving an interface with its engine, for example the dfam, as a vcv rack, when i then import the saved selection i lose the mapping on patch master. is it normal?
Yeah, for now, mappings will not be saved with Selection files natively, but you can use the Strip++ module from Stoermelder to load selections together with the saved mappings. You can get it here - library.vcvrack.com/Stoermelder-P1/StripPp
When I first saw this I was like, wow and then I was like, oh, there is one more thing that I want out of this. That is, I want an input (instead of knob or slider) that controls a knob. That way when I have a module with knobs and no CV, I can control those knobs with CV (e.g. Hallucigenia, gate density, mutation rate, sequence length, note range). And then of course the opposite, map a knob to an input that doesn't have a knob (though I suspect that is harder)
@@OmriCohen-Music Funny. I just found that today and was looking to respond to my own comment, but you are as always right on top of things and ever helpful
I assume we can still Midi Map the controls on the Mind Meld controls to go the final mile to real knobs? Even if not, this is still Mind Bendingly cool (heh), but if so, getting the rack dialed in with this and then going final mile to knobs on my (wood) desktop is an amazing possibility.
I can't seem to have it showing up in my modules. I'm still in 2.1.1 as it's recommended on GitHub. (I've retrograded from the 2.2.0 update actually). Anyone having the same issue ? I'm trying to build a poor's man version of the polybrute and it would save me quite the headache. Thanks in advance. ✨
If you have added the beta build to your plugins, and you still still see some older MM modules but not the new ones, this may be because you subscribed to particular MM modules in the VCV library rather than the entire plugin. If you subscribe to individual modules, VCV thinks you have NOT subscribed to these so doesn't show them. Answer is too unsubscribe from MindMeld then resubscribe to the whole plugin again - then they should show up. The Rack library is not great in this respect... would be better if users picked the modules they DIDN"T want, rather than the ones they do - then anything new would show up.
@@Thedougkile I uninstalled the normal mindmeld plugins and deleted the directory, but ended up with the same issue as you with mindmeld greyed out. I guess we'll have to wait til the final release.
@@OmriCohen-Music thank you for so much information. I have learned to use the vcv thanks to your videos!! Today I have already produced several eps with vcv!!
Okay, this is really cool, except in trying to learn things and looking at how the original patch was created verses this one, the original had me jumping around 35-45% CPU, while this monster has it regularly popping into the mid 200's. Not very useable. Even at 45% there's not much room to add modules before experiencing drop outs and stutters. Is it just me? I'm running it at 30 fps. There doesn't seem to be any one module accounting for this when I check the performance meters, just large spikes over different modules. Percall and the 2 Surge modules use the most but not significantly.
You have to make sure to download the .vcvpluing file and not a zip file. Then you just place it in the plugins folder and restart VCV. Let me know if it works :)
@@OmriCohen-Music Still doesn't work, i dont know if its normal for the MindMeldModular-2.1.1-win.vcvplugin to disapear from the plugins folder when i restart VCV. Not sure what's happening
Make sure you are subscribed to the entire mindmeld plugin in the VCV library, not just individual modules from it, otherwise you won't see the new modules show up. If you have subscribed to some individual modules, unsubscribe from MindMeld then resubscribe to the plugin again.
Is there a way so that the modules that are unused in the chain get "switched off" and dont waste any cpu. Like when you change filters. do the unused filters continue wasting cpu?
I know that many modules will consume considerably less resources when no signal goes through them so by switching the connections, you can save some CPU yes
PatchMaster is now in the library! Get it here - library.vcvrack.com/MindMeldModular
Omri I'm not gonna exaggerate: This is a complete gamechanger for VCV/Cardinal. Especially for people like me who use saved patches in productions and performances. You just potentially turned this environment into like, Modular Kontakt.
Thanks so much! The MindMeld team really took this to a whole new level
I've never gasped more in one video. This DOES change everything! The last time I felt this excited was when I discovered Plaits and VCV itself😂 Thank you!!!!
Thanks so much!
Holy fucking shit. I love it. Not just the modules, but also the colab. A perfect match for getting creativity expressed in productivity!
Thanks so much 🙂
This immediately looks like a very natural way to work. Someone on the live chat phrased it rather beautifully - that it will make working with VCV more like driving a car, and less like working on the engine.
I agree. This opens up the performance aspect quite a bit. Cheers!
Found! Credit is due to @Don Cross, who said at 24:06 "This makes performing more like driving a car and less like working on its engine."
...and then you can use MIDI Map to map the Patch Master to your MIDI controller.
This is super cool! Much love to all you amazing devs out there! The Omri mushroom logo is the "chef's kiss"! :)
Hey, thanks so much!
The capacity of this Mind Meld plugin is incredible thanks to the developers. You can tell they love music. This is a before and after like your Mixer and Bass control. Excellent video Omri. Thank you Totally!
Yeah, the MindMeld modules are indeed top notch!
OMG !! VCV gets more and more interessant ! Without you Omri nothing would be the same ❤
Have fun 🙂
This is a total game-changer, Omri! Congratulations on this development!
Cheers!
You come home after a long day and find this video in the subscriptions. Simply awesome and unexpectedly fantastic. I really need to try this with my Faderfox EC4. A big thank you to the developers and Omri!
Nice, let us know how it goes 🙂
Total game changer! Thank you, Omri and MindMeld. x
Glad you enjoyed it!
Been using bitwig for about a year. Now this!!! I'm very impressed with MindMeld. Shapemaster pro is my goto for modulation but this takes things to a new level with those macros.
I am amazed!. Thank you for this great in depth update :) This is just what I wanted.
Glad it was helpful!
Wow - awesome work. Thanks MindMeld & Omri!
Cheers!
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for taking the time and effort for all your tutorials / module reviews. Love you stuff ❤
I am less than a minute into the video and already ... this is fantastic - Great work and thanks!
Cheers!
As others have said, a game-changer: makes sound design and performance way smoother, and looks SO cool. Beginner here, but just for fun I added an off/on quantiser and octave control to DFAM; inauthentic, but I like the added ease of sequencing. Congratulations and many thanks to all concerned.
Oh nice! Yeah, you can add so many things and just have them on the interface for easy access. So cool!
WOW! This is an excellent addition to VCV Rack! This makes it so much more clear. I'm now off downloading your revised DFAM and then continue watching the rest of this video. ;)
Did you upload it already? I can't find it... I do see an updated Mavis, but not the DFAM.
Yeah, I wanted to add the patch bay as well. It's there now :) patchstorage.com/lets-build-the-moog-dfam-in-vcv-rack/
So cool! This is truly a great addition and changes the whole performance aspect of VCV Rack! Thanks for you work! 😊
Glad you like it!
Wow wow, beautiful modules, wonderful patches, the holydays came early, thx so much everybody
Cheers, Wim!
This is so great. Totally love the workflow and this is just how I like to control patches. Thank you Mind Meld and Omri for this 🎉
Thanks so much 🙂
This is incredible. I use rack inside Ableton mainly as custom effects and synths. Each time I load a selection that's god knows how many modules worth I'm so lost in the patch. This is gonna help so much, I was hoping for something like it a while ago. Thank you so much Omri and the devs at Mindmeld.
Mostly people who use Rack inside Ableton use it fur custom synths and effects. Not me. I use it for mass produced power conditioning.
Have fun!
Thank you so much for this perfect set of tools. I didn't use it already, but your video says all of its potential. thank you again, I'm so often confused with my overwhelming patches. So smart, so clean, thank you again!!
Have fun!
To be honest, this is a big thing. Big Kudos to you MM and you Omri. Especially the fact that, one it's easy to simplify things and bring it all together and two bind it to an external controller. Who needs Eurorack modules anymore Cheers for the nice tutorial!
Cheers, Wim!
BEAUTIFUL!!! Thank you so much Omri and Mind Melt 🥰
Cheers!
This is absolutely brilliant! Omri, your videos are so powerfully enabling. This newbie to modular cannot thank you enough. Joined your patreon and am watching and learning from your videos.. Oh Yeah!
Thanks so much :)
Great job on these new features! Thank you.
Cheers!
Awesome, these modules are a gamechanger ... thanks for explaining so nicly ;-)
Cheers, Peter!
this is soo sick... you can even map the mapped ones...what a christmas feast ! you make it so easy to implement all of this on the fly . thx again!
Have fun!
Thanks a lot ! This is AWESOME .....
Awesome development
This is a gamechanger, can't believe it, thanks a lot !
how brilliant from mind meld. keep up the good work Omri !
Cheers!
I'm using an M1 macbook so I downloaded the ARM64 version and didnt get really far. Installed it but it just hid my other mindmeld modules, had to update mindmeld to get them back but no patchmaster. Downloaded the Mac build, installed, worked fine. This is for anyone running ito this issue. FYI, its amazing!
This is awesome! I actually do 3D animation, which suffers the same issue of parameter hell.
The common solution is to create a control object that has all the important parameters in one place, so you can make changes from a central interface.
Great work!
Have fun!
Whoa. Amazing. Thanks for making this!
Have fun!
I had slept on this and just trying it out right now and Holy shit! 😲
(RIP stoermelder's mapping modules;)
I was thinking about idea how to bundle modules not to see all those small controls into some building blocks . here it is briliant idea how to simplify patch. I will be able update my live setup patches wo hooo. thank you Omri! amd MM
Cheers! Let us know how it goes 🙂
Much more useful in standalone VCV, but when using VCV in a DAW as vst, you'll probably have some options for creating macros with different ranges. I use Reason and it has a combinator. FL studio Cubase and Ableton also have it's versions. Still, this is a great contribution to a VCV rack. Thanks.
This is really great. One thing I didn't see you do when range mapping. Can you map the range of a knob or slider in reverse - to start at 100% and end in 0%. Imagine two different voices running into a mixer and you want to fade between the two voices. You map the mixer sliders to a single control, but one mixer slider is mapped in reverse of the other. As you move the MindMeld slider the two level sliders on the mixer will swap places. I've done this from scratch using an attenu-verter with base level offset but it would be cleaner if the MM module could do it in it's multiple mapping and level settings.
yes, the ranges can be inverted to invert the control
As Marc mentioned, this is possible and there's even a preset in the range menu for inverted values 🙂
Awesome Omri. Thank you
Cheers!
That's pretty cool to have a remote control for everything. Now one of the few tricks left is to make this kind of thing work from another window instance so the big rack with visuals and blinkenlights can be recorded for video while you do live inputs on the less exciting to look at but very useful controller that has everything in one spot. (Or is that covered already too?) If you don't have a MIDI controller input setup it's like virtualizing that too, but if you do then you put MIDI on your "MIDI" for multiple controls chained together so it still proves quite useful either way.
If anyone remembers how powerful the Stoermelder collection was for VCV 1 this fixes the lack of support for the controller modules in VCV 2. Huge.
Wow! This is so cool!
Cheers!
this is amazing!
Cheers!
Brilliant !
Cheers!
wow ... the buttons are ace! ... congrats!
Cheers!
this is awsome an i really want to try it but im having trouble installing it :(
i put the .vcvplugin file and the sourcecode folder in the plugin directory. vcv generates a new mindmeldmodular folder but doesnt use the one i put there from github. what am i doing wrong? installing the surgext plugins from github worked immediately. thanks in advance
If you see some MindMeld modules but not the new ones, this may be because you subscribed to individual modules on the Rack library rather than the entire plugin - if you do that it means new modules won't show up (as you have not subscribed to them) - Rack library sucks for this... If that's the case, unsubscribe from Mindmeld entirely then resubscribe to the whole plugin again (not individual modules within it) - then the new modules should show up.
btw you only need to put the .vcvplugin file in the plugin directory, nothing else.
This is amazing !!!!!!! I have been piecing together "interfaces" that look bloated and busy with knobs and buttons from various other brands. This will clean things up so much and help me get ideas across to other musicians.
Is there any chance I can ever so kindly put a feature request in??
If so, I would request a horizontal "separator" that is essentially a VU meter that has various voltage ranges and Unipolar/Bipolar options.... Having that element of feedback on the layout would be very helpful. I use a lot of the NYSTHI 1M/2M for visual feedback on what my LFOs and gain is doing.
I am sure you all thought of that already though, and it may not be as simple from a coding standpoint though...
Thanks so much! I will pass this to the right people :)
i just gave the modules a test run, they work perfectly on avl mxe linux!
Cheers!
Amazing work! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
I just finished creating a Moog Grandmother, and thanks to this awesome set of tools and your explanation here, it is really fun to play. If you're still working with MM on modules, I have a few feature requests if I may?
I would love a horizontal 2- or 3-way toggle switch
A meter strip!
Double and triple-wide modules, with horizontal faders, horizontal radio buttons, and bigger buttons and knobs, with one, two, or three-wide labels
A patch bank that lets you map ins and outs of various modules (with enough space for labels between each patch point)
Individual patch points, 1 or two per standard module
Background color options for the module labels, and what the heck, background colors for the blank modules themselves.
#hex color options or any enterable format besides dragging
OK, Christmas is over. Thanks again for your always awesome explanations. I've learned so much this year!
Oh nice! Thanks so much :) I will pass these along. Cheers!
Amazing!
Since I just recognized your logo, please let me just say that I love Tap Dancer and Oppressor Pro. I appreciate your work and want to thank you for your modules!
Thanks!
This is amazing. One question I have after watching: is it self-controllable? Ie. If I can map a controller knob to another controller knob then you could map infinite parameters instead of just 4. Definitely going to try this when I get home!
this should work no problem
@@marcboule Sure does! ruclips.net/video/O9-OtaBuB4A/видео.html Thanks for the reply and for the awesome work on all the MindMeld modules! Really fantastic stuff; I could not imagine using Rack without them.
Thank you, this is a fantastic addition. Bravo on the collaboration !
Am I supposed to be on vcv 2.1.1 ? I am on 2.2.0 and I can't get them to show up
It's probably because you have subscribed to individual Mindmeld modules in the library rather than the entire plugin. So Rack thinks you have not subscribed to these new modules and therefore hides them (the opt-in library module subscription system sucks for this reason). To fix, unsubscribe from MindMeld entirely, then resubscribe to the plugin (NOT individual modules). 2.1.1 v 2.2.0 shouldn't matter.
@@stevebaker2896 thank you for your help ! what do you mean by "then resubscribe to the plugin (NOT individual modules)" ? I only have the option of subscribe to the individual MindMeld modules on the library, don't I ?
@@stevebaker2896 nevermind, I got it to work, thank you so much !
@@micky_stewart No you don't. When you are on the library page, in top right corner you will see links for 'plugins' and 'reset filters'. Click on 'plugins'. Now you see a list of all the plugins. Unsubscribe from Mindmeld. Then resubscribe.
Edit: Oh I missed your 'nevermind' post above haha. Glad to hear you got it working :)
@@stevebaker2896 Thank you! Now it is working for me as well (and that without asking) Hero of the day :)
I got the Patchmaster to finally show up by going in the library to "Plugins" and then scrolling down to Mindmeld and clicking on "Subscribe" .
I just starting using this a couple of days ago. It works great for most things I have tried, and is, as has been mentioned a game changer.
Is there a chance you will be updating it in the future? Ideally to add a couple of things that would display data from a module? In particular a display for BPM, and a way to add small lights, either individually or to turn on the light on a button remotely. Both of these features would be huge when trying to add a sequencer to the UI. Another great addition would be a toggle switch with a label for each position. Maybe even in the form of a side by side, two small button, radio button option.
Thank you so much! As I understood from the Mind Meld team, updates may or may not happen in the future...
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for responding Omri. I was thinking about it more this morning and I'm not even sure if what I suggested would be possible.
I have been having a lot of fun with it so far anyway. I'm getting close to having a finished version of the project I am working on and it has definitely been a big help. THANK YOU!!!
This is nearly my dream - if the PatchMaster module set also had inputs and outputs you could build entirely new MODULES who's behaviour was implemented by the underlying modules. You would only see and use) the inputs, output, and controls on the PatchMaster interfaces.
Yes, this something we're considering but for now, I use the RouteMaster modules to add a patchbay functionality. Have a look at this, for example - patchstorage.com/lets-build-the-moog-dfam-in-vcv-rack/
Can you map a midi controller's knobs and buttons to this or is this only on the PC?
Literal game changer!
Great video Omri, inspiring as always. The DFAM example at 25:45 looks really nice. You mention there is a link to the patch but I can't find it. Is it a Patreon exclusive? Also, are there other 'reimagined' patches you are working on using the Patchmaster module? Thanks!
Thanks! No, it's not a Patreon exclusive. You can find it here - patchstorage.com/lets-build-the-moog-dfam-in-vcv-rack/
And yes, I have a few things planned :)
@@OmriCohen-Music Thank you for this patch. So much work!
very meta. thanks!
Cheers!
auspicious
Total gamechanger! Is there a release window yet?
We'll probably send it to the library in a week or so if no major problems show up in this beta stage.
Omri which module are you using for the blue labels in the intorductory patch?
This is the 202 module from Submarine - library.vcvrack.com/SubmarineFree
Wow!
Can I control the patchmaster knobs/fader via midi?
Indeed 🙂 There's a short section about it in the video
@@OmriCohen-Music Ok, I've only seen half of the video (had to go to work) and MIDI was going through my mind.
While cycling to work these extra features came to mind
- not right clicking but drawing (like patch cables) from the patchmaster knob to the knob(s) it has to control
- hide all the actual modules, so you only see the patchmaster module
- maybe even have some kind of kiosk-mode that only shows the patchmaster module
- change the visual background of the patchmaker module to your likings
how can i make a sort of a patch-bay for recreating semi-modular synths. Either with this new collection or using other modules?
ofcourse, the hardest thing for me to understand whith that is: how to make the patch points break the already made (hidden) connection when plugged into something else
You can use the RouteMaster for that. Have a look at this patch. Maybe it will help - patchstorage.com/moog-mavis/
@@OmriCohen-Music wow. the updated patch is really nice and well thought out!
ive also watched the video.
the manual switching on the patchbay is actually really nice. i will however *try* to find another sollution to do the patch bay, using stoermelders "mirror", and/or the teleport modules. Take care, cheers!
Hi Omri, did you provide the link to your new dfam patch?
Hi! I wanted to change a few things and I added also a patch bay :) patchstorage.com/lets-build-the-moog-dfam-in-vcv-rack/
WOW! I kept saying, over and over, You can do what!?! LOL ;)
jep , gamechanger ist the word that comes to mind ad hoc ...even before looking at the comments
is there any way to control the patchmaster knobs with a cv cable input? ilove to use it for direct access when recording,would be rad to trigger them by some module. midi isnt an option, no hardware here...
Well, not really but you can use uMap from Stoermelder to control them with CV :)
This looks fantastic. One question: Can you save your custom modules as presets/templates? I thought I saw a “Save As” option in the right-click menu towards the end of the video, but I didn’t see it being specifically covered in the video.
Thanks for the amazing demo, and thanks to the team for creating such a brilliant tool!
You can highlight multi-row selections (by click-dragging on a group of modules), then right-click on the group and "Save selection as". Rack itself unfortunately does not keep mapping intact when importing selections in the usual way (File > Import selection). But Ben Stoermelder has come to the rescue with a new module in his Pack One plugin called "S++". This is like his Strip module but instead of saving/importing Strips, it imports Rack selections with the mapping maintained. Just drop S++ into your patch, right-click on it to open the menu and do a Selection Import. S++ makes it possible to re-use PatchMaster constructs in other patches. S++ was only made a couple of days ago and therefore did not make it onto his Pack One submitted to the library recently - you will need to download and install his nightly build from GitHub to get it.
github.com/stoermelder/vcvrack-packone/releases/tag/Nightly
Thanks! Yeah, as Steve mentioned, there's the S++ that should make it work and we hope this will work natively in VCV as well soon.
Reminds me a lot of SUNVOX's Metamodules.
This is not big... it's HUGE! How dope would it be to have a companion ipad app to mirror the exact layout of the patchmaster and control wirelessly? I guess it's doable.
Ormi you're a blessing for the synth world!
Thanks so much! Maybe something with OSC?
I found out that you can use your ipad as a secondary screen and actually control plugins using the touchscreen from inside VCV. I'll try it out for sure.
It would be nice to add CV input to modulate the macros. I think it's possible to do it in Bitwig with its modulators.
Take a look at uMap from Stoermelder. It will let you do exactly this.
THATS COOL MAN
Mayby give another take on the subharmonicon using this
Thanks :) I have all of the synths I built updated with an interface, including the Subharmonicon :) Have a look here - patchstorage.com/author/omri_cohen/
@@OmriCohen-Music wow that's great! Thank you man. ill say the only down side is a) that there is no feedback, like leds that indicate which step of which Seq. is playing. and B) its confusing to dial in values because they show % of the real values.
hi Omri, great video again. I was wondering if there is a way to lock a midi assigned parameter (1) in vcv rack so when you move to another bank on the midi controller and change the position of same knob that controls that parameter (1), when you go back to the bank on the midi controller that controls parameter (1) the value of that parameter will stay locked to its position until the physical knob on the controller matches that value.
Thanks! I think it depends on your Midi controller. You might be able to set the way it works and how it “catches up” to different values. Which one are you using?
Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm on a research to get one. I'm finding the Subzero mini control very interesting. If could just find a way to implement the function I'm talking about. I used to own a s2400 which was working that way and it was perfect. I asked chatgpt and it came up with an idea using sample & hold and trigger it with a gate which when activated would lock the fader. I'm sure this idea is getting somewhere but I can't seem to figure out how to make it wait for the physical controller to meet its value before it unlocks again.
Another question Omri:
is there a way to add -- for example a knob or control -- that will allow me to load a specific patch, replacing the current patch with the new one? In other words, a control that could act as a file manager without having to use the mouse or menus to load the new patch, but instead click on a control that would load the new patch.
Have a look at this :) community.vcvrack.com/t/prefabs-by-ldlework-pre-release/19260/124
@@OmriCohen-Music Good heavens Omri you never fail! Also in that thread I saw the reference to Stoermelder's 'Strip' which looks interesting. Between Patchmaster and this Prefabs idea, VCV is moving into some exciting areas. A standalone synth workstation with multiple presets, pre-mapped midi controls - like on an Arturia Keylab Essentials keyboard - and running on a 'headless' system (no mouse, ascii keyboard, with Windows/mac OS in the background) seems closer than ever.
BTW the thing on my desk -- Elgato Stream Deck -- can be used to run launch VCV with specific patches.
@@bonaventura_AKA_ben Yeah, I also have a Stream Deck with Various controls :) I can hit a key and add modules even. It's fun!
And now you are going to update all of your vcv presets instruments?
I'm already on it :) I got the DFAM, Mavis, and O-Coast done :)
Cool breeze.
Cheers!
That opens a anozhe dimension of vCV Rack possybilities !! Thats would be nice work together with any MIDDI Controllers ( MIDILAR for example ) OMRI when will the modules be available???
Thank you very much !!!
Thanks so much! We will see how the beta goes and take it from there 🙂
Excellent. I noticed that when mapping, the module parameter takes the value of the controller. Shouldn't it be the other way around? the controller should take the value that the mapped module currently has.
That's something we'll be looking into in a future update. If it can be done it would only work for the first map though (of potentially 4) - you wouldn't want mapped control 1 to jump when you map control 2, which it would if the controller took the value of the newly mapped module control.
@@stevebaker2896 sure. I dont take múltiple params into account when i wrote last time. Sorry mi english, this time without google translator.
interesting new modules and a great presentation. when will the modules be available?
the link to install them manually is above in the notes of the video, and after the public beta is done we will submit it to the library
@@marcboule The beta doesn't install for me. Do you have any idea how long before it's in the main library?
@@chelfyn not really unfortunately, but perhaps a week or two if all goes well. That's strange that it won't install, you should be able to drop it in your plugins folder and it will decompress it the next time you start rack. A good thing to try is also to delete the MindMeldModular folder in plugins beforehand, to make absolutely sure it can decompress property
@@marcboule Cheers, I'll give that a try.
@@marcboule I tried that, and also uninstalled the normal mindmeld plugins. The file decompresses on loading, but the mindmeld category is greyed out in the plugin list.
It seems like others are having the same problem. Not to worry, I can wait until you are out of beta for this amazing addition to VCVRack. If there's anything I can do to help testing/fixing this issue reply with any suggestions.
Any ideas of the MIDILAR price range? I like it's form factor even though I have an old Novation Zero that I hope will do the job too.
I'm pretty sure Midilar is not available anymore...
@@OmriCohen-Music Looks like this. Thanks for this fabulous modules.
I have a launchpad XL which has always been a pain to map. I think this module could probably help me to do this easily! Recreate the midi controller to PatchMaster and then work from there. Any thoughts on this?
I don't have one but it should work. I would love to know how it went though
this is so great...but i have a problem, when saving an interface with its engine, for example the dfam, as a vcv rack, when i then import the saved selection i lose the mapping on patch master. is it normal?
Yeah, for now, mappings will not be saved with Selection files natively, but you can use the Strip++ module from Stoermelder to load selections together with the saved mappings. You can get it here - library.vcvrack.com/Stoermelder-P1/StripPp
@@OmriCohen-Music thanks so much!
@@OmriCohen-Music i'm sorry is there any tutorial out there on how to use strip++?
@@giordanorosadoni5440 well, you just have to right click it and choose to import the file.
When I first saw this I was like, wow and then I was like, oh, there is one more thing that I want out of this. That is, I want an input (instead of knob or slider) that controls a knob. That way when I have a module with knobs and no CV, I can control those knobs with CV (e.g. Hallucigenia, gate density, mutation rate, sequence length, note range). And then of course the opposite, map a knob to an input that doesn't have a knob (though I suspect that is harder)
Have a look at the uMap by Stoermelder. You can use it to map controls within VCV and control things that have no CV inputs.
@@OmriCohen-Music Funny. I just found that today and was looking to respond to my own comment, but you are as always right on top of things and ever helpful
I assume we can still Midi Map the controls on the Mind Meld controls to go the final mile to real knobs?
Even if not, this is still Mind Bendingly cool (heh), but if so, getting the rack dialed in with this and then going final mile to knobs on my (wood) desktop is an amazing possibility.
OK, I just hit 36:20 in the video (I got excited and asked the question too soon). Killer. Congrats on this!
Yeah, this opens up so many possibilities! Cheers!
Bravo!
Cheers!
Only 5 minutes in and 👏👏 hUUge
Cheers!
I can't seem to have it showing up in my modules. I'm still in 2.1.1 as it's recommended on GitHub. (I've retrograded from the 2.2.0 update actually). Anyone having the same issue ? I'm trying to build a poor's man version of the polybrute and it would save me quite the headache. Thanks in advance. ✨
If you have added the beta build to your plugins, and you still still see some older MM modules but not the new ones, this may be because you subscribed to particular MM modules in the VCV library rather than the entire plugin. If you subscribe to individual modules, VCV thinks you have NOT subscribed to these so doesn't show them. Answer is too unsubscribe from MindMeld then resubscribe to the whole plugin again - then they should show up. The Rack library is not great in this respect... would be better if users picked the modules they DIDN"T want, rather than the ones they do - then anything new would show up.
awesome
VCV doesn't pick this up for some reason. Installed into plugin folder, opened VCV, it unpacked the .vcvplugin, but no new modules appear ((
Same here, no addition of modules to local library after installation and restart.
@@terrywisniewski3349 Came here to say the same thing! :(
Same here - MindMeld is added to the list of brands, but it's greyed out.
@@Thedougkile I uninstalled the normal mindmeld plugins and deleted the directory, but ended up with the same issue as you with mindmeld greyed out. I guess we'll have to wait til the final release.
@Richard Mixin I did exactly these steps, still doesn't work
Gamechanger!
Cheers!
excelente!!! Gracias
Thanks!
@@OmriCohen-Music
thank you for so much information. I have learned to use the vcv thanks to your videos!! Today I have already produced several eps with vcv!!
@@alexisromano7603 that's amazing, thank you!
Okay, this is really cool, except in trying to learn things and looking at how the original patch was created verses this one, the original had me jumping around 35-45% CPU, while this monster has it regularly popping into the mid 200's. Not very useable. Even at 45% there's not much room to add modules before experiencing drop outs and stutters. Is it just me? I'm running it at 30 fps. There doesn't seem to be any one module accounting for this when I check the performance meters, just large spikes over different modules. Percall and the 2 Surge modules use the most but not significantly.
There's something weird going on but I'm sure it will be fixed when this will reach the library and come out of beta.
i dont know why, but i cant install third party on vcv, never could, i have the zipped file and unzipped on the documents rack2 plugin folder
You have to make sure to download the .vcvpluing file and not a zip file. Then you just place it in the plugins folder and restart VCV. Let me know if it works :)
@@OmriCohen-Music Still doesn't work, i dont know if its normal for the MindMeldModular-2.1.1-win.vcvplugin to disapear from the plugins folder when i restart VCV. Not sure what's happening
@@rec.19 Yes, it ashould disapear. VCV will install it automatically. Are you subscribed to the full MindMeld collection?
@@OmriCohen-Music Yes.
The rest of the bundle is still there.
when installing the Beta version it overwrites the existing ones and doesn't load the new ones
Maybe it's better to delete the old one first.
Make sure you are subscribed to the entire mindmeld plugin in the VCV library, not just individual modules from it, otherwise you won't see the new modules show up. If you have subscribed to some individual modules, unsubscribe from MindMeld then resubscribe to the plugin again.
@@stevebaker2896 thanks Steve. Will follow your advice.
@@stevebaker2896 I followed your advice however the new modules don't show up
instead of using my mac i switched to Windows and there it worked perfectly
Is there a way so that the modules that are unused in the chain get "switched off" and dont waste any cpu. Like when you change filters. do the unused filters continue wasting cpu?
I know that many modules will consume considerably less resources when no signal goes through them so by switching the connections, you can save some CPU yes
NIce!!!!!
Thanks!