M3 MacBook Pro Teardown & Thermals - REALLY, Apple?!

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  • @MaxTechOfficial
    @MaxTechOfficial  8 месяцев назад +13

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    • @davidpsp89
      @davidpsp89 8 месяцев назад

      How many fans have the apple mac book pro m3 pro and m3 max, the same only one ? In 14'

    • @kreigerbailey3550
      @kreigerbailey3550 8 месяцев назад +1

      Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!

    • @hasansahin7965
      @hasansahin7965 8 месяцев назад

      These are first 3nm CPU contained computers, and they're not stable, so i
      think i'll buy the second or third generation of 3nm Apple Silicon.
      I have a M2 Mac Mini Pro in full specs (Only SSD is 1TB).

    • @mistersunday_
      @mistersunday_ 8 месяцев назад

      Your link doesn’t work

    • @TheHiddenTruth2024
      @TheHiddenTruth2024 8 месяцев назад

      Dndnfn

  • @PrioCaptSend
    @PrioCaptSend 8 месяцев назад +187

    Apple removed a fan because they know this will be bought by their biggest fans and that’ll keep it cool.

    • @thedownunderverse
      @thedownunderverse 8 месяцев назад +4

      Boom.

    • @rog-e-rogj7632
      @rog-e-rogj7632 8 месяцев назад +3

      Hah!

    • @dareemmanuel6079
      @dareemmanuel6079 8 месяцев назад +3

      Good one

    • @timschultz1928
      @timschultz1928 8 месяцев назад

      Because one fan keeps it in spec.. is it throttling is the question not the temp or how many fans... Thanks for being concerned with something that doesn't matter

    • @zenova9926
      @zenova9926 8 месяцев назад +1

      Ba dum tss

  • @parjau4554
    @parjau4554 8 месяцев назад +227

    The fact that the M3 runs hotter seems strange to me because I thought one of the main points of smaller architecture was to improve efficiency.

    • @TrestonDodd
      @TrestonDodd 8 месяцев назад +36

      M3 is on the first 3nm node so its not as efficient or powerful as the new 3nm nodes being built. M2 runs at 3.5 ghz max while m3 is 4 ghz max. If you kept them at the same ghz the m3 while out perform the m2. Its hotter but only cause the m3 has a higher ghz. The real question now is which can sustain peak performance.

    • @photoniccannon2117
      @photoniccannon2117 8 месяцев назад +23

      If they took the M2's exact design and put it on 3nm at the same clock speed, it would be significantly more efficient. But Apple used the efficiency gains of the node to allow them to boost the clock speeds higher and to use a more advanced microarchitecture, which raised performance but ended up using more power to go along with it.

    • @ratshackmojo
      @ratshackmojo 8 месяцев назад +8

      Apple cheaped out and cut it down to 1 fan. Also it's harder to cool a smaller chip using the same amount of power as larger chip.

    • @TrestonDodd
      @TrestonDodd 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@ratshackmojo Base m chips have always had one or no fan at all. Not meant to be a high end performer. If you bought one for that purpose then thats on you.

    • @citizentex5720
      @citizentex5720 8 месяцев назад +5

      Thanks for the information.

  • @thahleel
    @thahleel 8 месяцев назад +79

    Before Apple released their own silicon for Macs, they used to say the high prices of their computers were determined mostly by Intel charging a lot for their CPUs/IP. With the introduction of Apple Silicon, I was expecting them to pass that saving on to their customers and reduce the prices of their computers as a result of no longer relying on Intel and their patents. Boy was I wrong. Not only did they keep prices the same (and eventually raised pricing like they were still relying on Intel or something), but they kept storage/RAM priced pretty much the same. This is what happens when there is no competition, and I'm hoping Apple gets their ass whopped soon by Qualcomm and others. The lack of competition has also hurt customers in another way: there is barely any difference between their M1, M2 and M3 family of computers. Apple sees absolutely no need to innovate when they don't have to compete with any other company and thus they don't innovate and that's a giant middle finger to all their customers (including me)

    • @weiss588
      @weiss588 8 месяцев назад +8

      apple is just greedy in this situation

    • @joenathanz7474
      @joenathanz7474 8 месяцев назад +1

      Speaking of charging the same, when apple announce M1 MBA, they really huge leap from previous i5 MBA by miles. So with same price we got the 2x or even 5x CPU/GPU

    • @marklouieadame
      @marklouieadame 8 месяцев назад

      Does windows support arm cpu?

    • @thahleel
      @thahleel 8 месяцев назад

      @@marklouieadame Giving me monopoly vibes 😂

    • @ishaan2947
      @ishaan2947 8 месяцев назад

      Yes. Snapdragon is expected to unveil one soon aswell

  • @nathanaelkugler777
    @nathanaelkugler777 8 месяцев назад +15

    I would really love a comparison of the new M3 machines also with the older M1s not only with the M2s, as many of us have M1 machines and didn't upgrade to M2

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac 8 месяцев назад +12

    Hey Max! Been waiting all day for this. Thanks for uploading!

  • @DamageMelody
    @DamageMelody 8 месяцев назад +58

    Apple: releases M3
    Max Tech: i'm gonna milk the shit outta this

    • @parjau4554
      @parjau4554 8 месяцев назад +6

      Yes, who wants to know about the M3 that we are all curious about. They should do more M1/M2 reviews instead.

    • @wooferjr169
      @wooferjr169 8 месяцев назад +8

      A lot of us want to at least see benchmarks, real world use and reviews, before we spend thousands of dollars on these machines.

    • @icygrunt
      @icygrunt 8 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed as their videos do get repetitive, but some of their videos are quite informative, and frankly, cover more details than most other reviewers.

  • @fitzman7
    @fitzman7 8 месяцев назад +11

    Interesting review of the M3 so far. Looking forward to the rest of the MBP reviews and mainly the M3 pro.

  • @vlcheish
    @vlcheish 8 месяцев назад +6

    tim cook said the upcoming macbooks were gonna be hot. i just never knew he meant this

  • @The12th_
    @The12th_ 8 месяцев назад +11

    Looks like the big surprise is the M3 Pro.
    Guess there are more videos coming soon with that result and there is probably the sweet spot between price and performance.
    Looking forward for my 16” 1000GB.

  • @dadabooey
    @dadabooey 8 месяцев назад

    I really love your tear downs 🤩 and always the first!

  • @YogeshSharma-pg3gf
    @YogeshSharma-pg3gf 8 месяцев назад +12

    Intel is back in Macbooks, the motherly warm feeling during cold winters that this Mac will give is something incomparable. Hopefully M3 mcbook pro 16" won't have this problem as I'm about to buy it.

    • @ahaimes6320
      @ahaimes6320 8 месяцев назад

      Actually, I saw other tests that showed that even with higher temps in the cores, the M3 is much cooler than M2 devices on the outside.

    • @YogeshSharma-pg3gf
      @YogeshSharma-pg3gf 8 месяцев назад

      @@ahaimes6320 Thanks for taking the time to provide the information but here I was just pulling apple's leg. And yes, M3 pro has better battery life as well

  • @cadenchurchill4296
    @cadenchurchill4296 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! Can’t wait for more content on these new Macs! Been looking forward to this for so long! 😄
    I’m also curious to see what they do with the M3 Air. For my uses at least it doesn’t really matter if they down clock the SoC a bit as the M1 chipset is still far more than capable enough of handling everything I throw at it.

  • @ErfonElijah
    @ErfonElijah 8 месяцев назад +101

    Looking forward to the M3 Pro benchmarks - looks like Apple nerfed the Pro chips big time to pull in more of that sweet Max money!

    • @chidorirasenganz
      @chidorirasenganz 8 месяцев назад +3

      eh it was probably to give more power headroom to the GPU and battery life

    • @user-jj4sj9rf7x
      @user-jj4sj9rf7x 8 месяцев назад

      I ran only CINEBENCH on my newly shipped m3pro base model. CINEBENCH2024.single core 138 multi core 837 gpu 5518. Compare to my base M1Max 113/835/3910. I return my M3Pro now...I ordered a base M2Max MBP14 I just run the test 121/1046/5113. with discount and considering the ram and ssd is 32G/1T on the base M2Max I would say Apple is now promoting M3Max. In compare, M3Pro is positioned specially at a lower performance point.

    • @Epicgamer_Mac
      @Epicgamer_Mac 8 месяцев назад

      Hey E.E.! You should start uploading again too!

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 8 месяцев назад +2

      The unbinned M3 pro doesn’t seem nerfed. We will see what Max tech test results show.

    • @ErfonElijah
      @ErfonElijah 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@sammyjammy6647 unfortunately the CPU gains seem meager and the GPU gains totally flat over M2 Pro

  • @arlencarlson
    @arlencarlson 8 месяцев назад +23

    Wow! This test says a lot. Worried about waiting for the M3 Air now. Could well affect my decision on this. Thanks for testing this. Looking forward to other reviews on this.

    • @Henningberlin94
      @Henningberlin94 8 месяцев назад +3

      Macbook Air is literally just for web browsing and normal office work. It will be fine. You are not running cinebench with it. Web browsing will still be snappier with M3 Macbook Air vs M2.

    • @williamwallace410
      @williamwallace410 8 месяцев назад

      These synthetic tests are not comparable to real life use.

    • @Poepopdestoep
      @Poepopdestoep 8 месяцев назад

      Maybe it's marketed that way, but i've done video / photowork on laptops 12 years ago. Laptops these days are so powerful that even an air will easily run Resolve or PP / Photoshop with ease@@Henningberlin94

    • @ohmyv3gatron
      @ohmyv3gatron 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Henningberlin94 It compiles rust code pretty well.... m2 air with 24gb ram.

    • @ahaimes6320
      @ahaimes6320 8 месяцев назад

      These tests are nonsense as no one uses the base models like this, especially the Air, as it would be dumb. Even Apple says do not buy the MB Air for sustained performance as that differs from what it is meant for!

  • @stevemorris3924
    @stevemorris3924 8 месяцев назад +3

    I think you should add some notes to your video as it's only the 14" Mac Pro M3 non pro/max that has 1 fan and fewer ports if you get the the 14" M3 Pro/max version you get two fans and the missing extra thunderbolt port

  • @davidpulliam8036
    @davidpulliam8036 8 месяцев назад

    A friend just updated his Mac up from a fully loaded 2014 iMac to a new M3 Mac book pro. Based on this video I recommended he get a minimum base line 14” m3 pro just for the heat and throttling issues.
    Thanks for the in depth reviews.

  • @mosesdavid5536
    @mosesdavid5536 8 месяцев назад +6

    Honestly you're the only true macbook reviewer. How come you go into basic depth and others rub their noses on the chassis?

  • @johnidoctor9826
    @johnidoctor9826 8 месяцев назад +1

    Man! You are the best
    I have been waiting all day for this video

  • @Raul-pe1yp
    @Raul-pe1yp 8 месяцев назад +1

    Do apps/software need to be optimized for 3nm chips or is the heating of the MacBook something that will affect it for the time it is around. I was thinking about upgrading, currently on a mid 2012 MacBook Pro, but now I am questioning wether going for the pro chip. Would you recommend the m3 chip? I guess we'll wait for tomorrows video

  • @AndarGoods
    @AndarGoods 8 месяцев назад

    That MacBook looks amazing in a Helm! Great video my friend!

  • @deejaywyw1
    @deejaywyw1 8 месяцев назад

    Good review! Like it so much

  • @rg975
    @rg975 8 месяцев назад +53

    Apple decided to give the base M3 chip more power and thermal output, but axed an entire fan? What an odd design choice

    • @Alwarin1
      @Alwarin1 8 месяцев назад +7

      Well they did not axe an entire fan. The M2 chip never had more than one fan ever, and that was in the MBP 13. Most of the M2s are passively cooled even - in MBA and iPad Pros. THAT should not be a problem. But I will give you that it is a weird design choice as one would imagine that if they reused the motherboard, it would technically be cheaper per unit, but I guess Apple has done their accounting and the features on the true pro motherboards are more expensive than manufacturing a complete different unit...

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 8 месяцев назад +2

      I'm not sure what the point is of them advertising it as being faster... since if all that performance is called upon, it'll inevitably thermal-throttle back anyway.

    • @ncard00
      @ncard00 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@MattExzyBecause most people buying a regular M3 don’t play games or do professional taxing work, or benchmarks, they just do streaming, school work, and alike, why the laptop doeesn’t need substained performance, but the M3 Max does.

    • @TarTw45
      @TarTw45 8 месяцев назад

      @@ncard00 "streaming, school work, and alike"
      M1 Macbook Air can do that just fine with half the price, just not look as cool as 14" MBP.

    • @Alwarin1
      @Alwarin1 8 месяцев назад

      @@MattExzy well it depends on how long you take that power. If you do something and can do it really quickly thanks to the great burst of power, you do not hit the throttle threshold or you will not be affected as much, because it could cool down before you need to call upon this burst again - my example is photo export, as I take photos sometime.

  • @Phenixzero
    @Phenixzero 8 месяцев назад +1

    I was about order the new M3 MacBook Pro but this video makes me thinking again

  • @sssloe
    @sssloe 8 месяцев назад

    In regards to the nand's just a quick follow up if you're into it: the "bigger", older series nand's are BGA110 chips used since the A13 era across the product line. The newer BGA315 chips are indeed smaller in size, but they come in two sizes - lower capacity chips get "narrow" BGA315's whereas the full 1TB/chip pieces are "standard" BGA110-like size and they're slightly taller, also weigh slightly more. BGA315 switch started with the iPhone 14 and moved on to M2 Mini and will be the standard moving forward. BGA315 is in the same way bga-rework replaceable and upgradable as the 110's.

  • @TheMohd11
    @TheMohd11 8 месяцев назад +64

    Thank you Max for these kind of reviews. We need more people like you in this world. All other fake RUclipsrs talks only about how this new space black colors is a fingerprint less. You are the only one who talks about the real deal. Can’t wait to see your review on thermals, speakers and cpu performance on the new m3 max model. Keep the good work going !

    • @timschultz1928
      @timschultz1928 8 месяцев назад

      Thermals that are in spec?

    • @dino91001
      @dino91001 8 месяцев назад +1

      and ijustine be like: 👀

  • @user-sy9wc6gk2q
    @user-sy9wc6gk2q 8 месяцев назад

    Interesting ! Thank you !

  • @mikecantwell2703
    @mikecantwell2703 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nice to see the new MacBooks out in the wild. I just got one today, but I’m confused; it is the M3 Max binned model. I thought it was supposed to come out later in November, anyone else get their M3 Max MacBook Pro’s early? Mine wasn’t supposed to arrive until the 17th…

  • @truecuckoo
    @truecuckoo 8 месяцев назад

    Is Apple feeling the heat and over clocking to maintain the lead? I wonder if a wattage vs performance vs heat graph would be linear, or if they could’ve chosen to run it slower at lower temperature with minimal performance drop.

  • @gregsLyrics
    @gregsLyrics 8 месяцев назад +3

    That beautiful Andar protective cover looks great. I am afraid it is like a toasty blanket though. Did you test the temperature of the M3 with and without the cover?

    • @jpjay1584
      @jpjay1584 8 месяцев назад +2

      ham and cheese toast
      yes, the aluminum surface of Macbooks is a heatsink. you don't want to cover or insulate that.

  • @yuio823
    @yuio823 8 месяцев назад +1

    I hope that in the future, M3 chips will switch to the N3E process with larger transistor spacing and smaller chip circuit pattern errors (lower resistance) to improve heating and power consumption issues.
    (Although using the N3E process will increase the chip area by 8%)

  • @kwalex6882
    @kwalex6882 8 месяцев назад +5

    They need to start considering a fan in the Air models. My M2 Air gets hot very quickly with just some light Arcade games. I’m talking 3-5 minutes in it’s already hot and battery drain is insane.

    • @mashirokobato5509
      @mashirokobato5509 8 месяцев назад

      Haha as I told u earlier.. nothing fancy about m series cpu.. gaming only last 1 or 2 hours... And running hot...

    • @mashirokobato5509
      @mashirokobato5509 8 месяцев назад

      My steamdeck passive cooled none of this has shtyy problem

    • @_shreyash_anand
      @_shreyash_anand 8 месяцев назад

      Does it get hot to the touch? Especially the bottom. Can you use it in shorts with the laptop sitting in your lap?

    • @ahaimes6320
      @ahaimes6320 8 месяцев назад

      When the MB Air came out, I warned people that they are not a sensible choice if you game or use intensive apps as they have no fans. Even in an interview with Apple, they made it clear that the Air was not for sustained loads!

    • @chuckaeronut
      @chuckaeronut 8 месяцев назад

      I prefer no fan. Yes, even if it throttles. I have a MBP for heavy lifting. I like to be able to leave my Air in a bag idling at 2W being a server, router, NAS, airplay receiver, and juke box. Lots of peace of mind knowing there's no fan in there. Seriously, the thing idles lid-closed on the same power as a Raspberry Pi, but hauls ass in spurty workloads and, most importantly, runs macOS. I don't want it to have a fan!

  • @jayrenolds7404
    @jayrenolds7404 4 месяца назад

    3 weeks in on my new MBP M3 Max 16" and I have to say, it's by far the best and fastest computer I've ever owned. And I've owned A LOT of PCs and Macs over the past 40 years. This thing is a beast!!!!

  • @sweealamak628
    @sweealamak628 8 месяцев назад +3

    Higher clock speed and transistor density is bound to make the M3 a hot chip. To the unlearned, they would be alarmed by such thermals. There's a reason why chips are made of silicon/sand in the first place, to operate as a semiconductor even at high temperatures. Only at 200°C will it start to breakdown it's structure. I run my M1 MBA hot with ML tasks but the performance is hardly compromised. I would have loved to order the base M3 MBP with the single fan, but I'm waiting for next year's M3 MBA 😊

  • @brianpark2564
    @brianpark2564 8 месяцев назад

    we need holiday mac buying videos from you guys!

  • @rinzan28
    @rinzan28 8 месяцев назад +2

    when is M1 14pro base model vs M3 base model comparison coming ?

  • @petepaxton5109
    @petepaxton5109 8 месяцев назад

    I recently bought an Asus Zenbook Duo which is a dual screen laptop. I had no idea how much I'd use the second screen but I use it nearly each time I'm on the computer. So many cool features. Very fast and does everything I need. I just which Apple would come out with something - anything that is super creative and innovative and makes us go "wow"!

  • @techkistenet
    @techkistenet 8 месяцев назад +1

    I own a 16“ M1 Pro. Would be really interessting to see it compated to the normal M3 and the M3 Pro.

  • @Acerdmen
    @Acerdmen 8 месяцев назад

    Please show the test results of the M1 Pro as well when testing this base M3!
    There are plenty of M1 Pro's refurbished, second hand, and still new out there in the market, and it could be really interesting to see how it compares to this base M3 for potential buyers.
    It really seems it can be at the same level of performance, or even better.

  • @The-BigBoss
    @The-BigBoss 8 месяцев назад +26

    Glad I’m going with the M3 Pro for my first MacBook.

    • @ducalee1737
      @ducalee1737 8 месяцев назад

      Don't worry with thermal throttling in normal use. Only stress test can bring CPU to extreme temperature.

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 8 месяцев назад +1

      No, choose the M2 Pro, 8 perfomance cores, 4 efficency. The M3 Pro is slower and hotter.

    • @movieblues4614
      @movieblues4614 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@saricubra2867 u lie. faster. cooler.

    • @cadenchurchill4296
      @cadenchurchill4296 8 месяцев назад +1

      You’re going to love it! I’ve got the M1 Air and it’s absolutely fantastic. Also for normal use (most I do is occasional photo editing in Lightroom) the computer doesn’t even heat up at all. Still blows me away that it’s fanless and as capable as it is.

    • @chuckaeronut
      @chuckaeronut 8 месяцев назад

      Unbinned M3 Pro should be about the same or a little faster than unbinned M2 Pro, while running cooler. It will also have a faster GPU, as well as mesh shading and ray tracing in hardware. I agree that M3 Pro isn't *as* upgraded over M2 Pro as M3 and M3 Max are over their respective M2 predecessors, but, being neither slower nor hotter, it's definitely not worse.@@saricubra2867

  • @GreatSif
    @GreatSif 8 месяцев назад +11

    Just got the MacBook Pro 14 M3 Pro in space black and I'm returning it. Not even because of the internals. They put the space black color on the track pad, and whatever residue they used makes the trackpad just sticky enough to be frustrating to use.

    • @PW-72648
      @PW-72648 8 месяцев назад

      LOL is this real 😂? That's even worse than that stupid notch

    • @chuckaeronut
      @chuckaeronut 8 месяцев назад

      Oh, what a bummer. No amount of performance can overcome a frustrating tactile experience. I very much hope your case is unique to either your computer, or your particular peripheral nervous system. That Space Black finish is gorgeous in the photos.

    • @GreatSif
      @GreatSif 8 месяцев назад

      From what I can tell, it was just my model. I havent heard of many other people who have had this issue.

  • @james_godfrey
    @james_godfrey 8 месяцев назад +6

    What’s interesting to me is that the MBP 14 M3 is shipping with the previous OS meaning they were ready to ship back in June/July, so it does beg the question was M3 going to launch at WWDC in the MacBook Airs and this MBP with the M3 Pro and Max launching in October as we saw…
    That then further begs the question why wasn’t this launched when it was ready to go…
    Either A - Apple was struggling with the thermals of M3 in the MBA’s or B - Apple is purposely holding back the Air line up much like they have done with the iPad Air and the standard iPhones

    • @bikeman7982
      @bikeman7982 8 месяцев назад +1

      My MBP Pro 14 M3 Pro came with Sonoma 14.1.

    • @james_godfrey
      @james_godfrey 8 месяцев назад

      @@bikeman7982the standard M3 ones and iMac came with Ventura

    • @ahaimes6320
      @ahaimes6320 8 месяцев назад

      There are many reasons to delay, including the fact the M2 just came out and the terrible economic conditions, as well as waiting for Sonoma and AAA games.

  • @Blue_Neptunium
    @Blue_Neptunium 8 месяцев назад +1

    Which mac Should I get that can handle finder well?

  • @dawgcanjumphigh
    @dawgcanjumphigh 8 месяцев назад

    I still have my 14 inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro. Its still fast when I edit videos. Its more for people looking to upgrade from the old intel processors on their Macs.

  • @bradm2734
    @bradm2734 8 месяцев назад

    Running a CPU-only stress test on my 16" base model, the fans don't spin up until it hits 95 degrees, and then it maintains low fan speeds as long as it stays below 100. The workload wasn't enough to make it thermal throttle even with the temp sitting in the mid 90s.

  • @rafaelgonzalez6158
    @rafaelgonzalez6158 8 месяцев назад +1

    m1 MacBook Pro 14 inch still the best pick overall. amazing performance, fast ssd even the base model and 2 fan setup.

  • @YeeLer
    @YeeLer 8 месяцев назад

    Hi, if we take the base m3, and upgrade the SSD to 1TB, do we get 6GB/s read write?

  • @frazerweb
    @frazerweb 8 месяцев назад

    As a long time user of apple macs, when you look at the build quality of the early computers it was beautiful. Even my anient dual core 17 laptop is still going. Now they are built like phones and I cant see them lasting as long as older computers. Time will tell.

  • @Kyzerii
    @Kyzerii 8 месяцев назад +1

    the bottom case is so thin and flimsy. when i pick up my 16" from the bottom one handed, its really heavy so woulnt my fingers be pressing into those batteries or something. is that safe?

  • @innnews6299
    @innnews6299 8 месяцев назад +1

    Please add render time tests for using video upscaler like Topaz Video AI to see how performances are between M3, M2 & M1 chips. Thank you.

  • @Alex4SiliconValley
    @Alex4SiliconValley 8 месяцев назад

    So which MBP is the Better build for Temps, CPU performance, fan quietness ?

  • @rupal_hs
    @rupal_hs 8 месяцев назад

    This is a feature for winters 🥶

  • @jayforcinema
    @jayforcinema 8 месяцев назад

    I'd love to hear about the comparison between 14" Macbook Pro with M3 Pro, and the 14" (or 16") Macbook Pro with M2 Max. Since M2 Max refurb will be close in price to the M3 Pro line of systems. Also has the change in architecture made any improvements to thermal management (throttling with the 14" system with M3 Max)?

  • @charliesdrones6413
    @charliesdrones6413 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice review waiting to see the future reviews I'm debating on getting the Pro M3 12 core cpu 18 core gpu 16 core neural engine 36 GB memory with 2 TB or the Basic M3 Max with 1 TB coming from using 2013 Mac Air I know it will be a nice shock on performance I just wish Apple would have use changeable parts like my old MacBook Air which I had to put a 1TB SSD in it to edit my drone videos which was a big challenge

  • @lenn55
    @lenn55 8 месяцев назад +2

    Waiting patiently for the M3 iMac gaming tests.

  • @EngineFD223
    @EngineFD223 8 месяцев назад +1

    I want to see you test the 16" M3 Pro MBP with 38gb of RAM and a 1TB SSD

  • @davidpsp89
    @davidpsp89 8 месяцев назад

    My question is the number of fans in the cooling system for the MacBook Pro models with the M3 pro and M3 Max chip, is it also only 1, or is it something that only occurs in the M3 chip?

  • @dailydoseof_lucas
    @dailydoseof_lucas 8 месяцев назад +1

    How’s the MacBook Pro M3 pro real life battery performance? I’m considering between M3 Pro and M3 base model :)

  • @dragomir22
    @dragomir22 8 месяцев назад

    CAN'T' WAIT FOR MACBOOK PRO 16 M1 PRO VS M3 PRO !!! and thank you for your goodness !!!

  • @billybuzy
    @billybuzy 8 месяцев назад +6

    Apple is not reading the writing on the wall as Mac sales keep missing the target and still trying to milk our pocket by nerfing base model. I’m lucky I withheld my decision to buy M3 MBP, knowing I’ve to watch your video first. Thanks for the review it saved my hard earned money

    • @ChadPrime69
      @ChadPrime69 8 месяцев назад +2

      Just canceled my 14” m3 max order until I see more testing like this.. those thermals are disappointing. And considering the 14 inch m2 pro thermal throttled, can only imagine the m3 max.

    • @williamwallace410
      @williamwallace410 8 месяцев назад

      These synthetic test aren't representative of real world use.@@ChadPrime69

  • @adityamisra7702
    @adityamisra7702 8 месяцев назад +5

    I wonder how will fanless mac air will keep up with these chips

    • @KelvinKMS
      @KelvinKMS 8 месяцев назад +1

      It will just slow down and lag all the way. Apple made more junk. just stop buying.

    • @cactusc2612
      @cactusc2612 8 месяцев назад

      Same. Suddenly i don’t want to wait for air m3

  • @khushgarg6403
    @khushgarg6403 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hey max love ur vids pls do cinebench r23 pls max
    And keep up hardcore teardown

  • @muhammadrivan2055
    @muhammadrivan2055 8 месяцев назад

    Please compare macbook 14 M1 pro vs Macbook m3.. should i upgrade from m1 pro to base m3

  • @simonmatele4621
    @simonmatele4621 8 месяцев назад

    Would performance results get a boost from connecting the power cable?

  • @ahmedhassan9120
    @ahmedhassan9120 8 месяцев назад +2

    Apple been planing so early for winter throughout its entire lineup this year

  • @Vishnu-wu8tv
    @Vishnu-wu8tv 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hi bro I watch all ur videos it has so much details good work keep it up bro 🎉
    Please do compare m3 max 16 core 40 gpu 48 unified memory vs 14core 30 gpu 36 unified memory
    I’m waiting for that video from the date of m3 release 😂😂😅😅

  • @jesseandersen4055
    @jesseandersen4055 8 месяцев назад

    was it that the m2 MacBook Pro fan couldn't cool the chip, or was it that apple had the settings set up to let it get hot over letting it get loud?

  • @mikeshawn5864
    @mikeshawn5864 6 месяцев назад +1

    The myth of Arm chip is more energy efficient is revealed. When you pack the same compute ability as x86, you need the same amount of electrify. ( assuming they are of the same nm process)😅😅😊😊

  • @mitriada
    @mitriada 8 месяцев назад

    Do you think that a fan base under the MacBook will help to keep it cool when working with Photoshop and Premiere?

  • @roberthoward5433
    @roberthoward5433 8 месяцев назад

    Can keep your coffee warm at the coffee shop or substitute for hand warmers in the winter

  • @recklessjunkie
    @recklessjunkie 8 месяцев назад

    Finally, someone puts their MacBook on something not to scratch it It’s like if your gonna just take it back treat it right

  • @rohittkrr
    @rohittkrr 8 месяцев назад

    excited for future max tech style windows laptops vs m3 macs test. you guys really hate slow ssds and stop gap chips 😂

  • @darknight1676
    @darknight1676 8 месяцев назад

    been waiting for these, looking forward to m3 pro vs m3 pro max

  • @tombruckner2556
    @tombruckner2556 8 месяцев назад +1

    I was hoping that the cooling problems with my Intel Macbook Pro would be finally gone. 😕

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa 8 месяцев назад +2

    I don't think that my M1 Pro MacBook Pro has exceeded 65 degrees and the fan is off the vast majority of the time. It's way more CPU than I need. My needs are RAM, screen, and ports and I don't see where M2 or M3 gets me anything I need. I suspect that I'd need additional features to consider an upgrade. Getting rid of the notch or adding Face ID, adding a USBA port, or going to a 17.3 inch 4k display would be some ideas that I'd be interested in .

    • @daveseville7394
      @daveseville7394 8 месяцев назад

      For me 16 inch inch is cool but I wish it had a touchscreen like an XPS or Book 3 Ultra.

  • @Tldrx
    @Tldrx 8 месяцев назад

    My home has quite a lot of dust floating around, how can i clean the dust inside the MacBook pro?

  • @bibasik7
    @bibasik7 8 месяцев назад +1

    You could probably prevent it from thermal throttling by setting the fans to full blast using TG Pro.

    • @ahaimes6320
      @ahaimes6320 8 месяцев назад

      That's what I do. Before sustained work, I put the fans on full blast, avoiding Apple's thermal mapping, which tends to allow the cores to get very hot before they are cooled down. I must admit I thought all people did this as it is common sense!

  • @dominic7012
    @dominic7012 8 месяцев назад

    The interior design of the MacBook Pro is next level.

  • @FrankWolfson
    @FrankWolfson 6 месяцев назад

    On my brand new M3 16GB Macbook Pro I got 710 Muti core, 140 Single Core and 3367 GPU score which, with the exception of the single core, is slightly lower than my 2020 27" iMac 10C/20T with 48GB, 2 TB SSD and AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 16 GB. For the disk test I got a slightly faster results for read (3024) and slightly slower for write (3347). This all means that not everything is created equal. However, on the Blender classroom render, the Macbook was about 14 seconds faster (24 seconds against 38 seconds on the iMac). I haven't done anything particularly heavy duty yet (just got it 5 days ago), so my milage may change in the future.
    Anyway, good video.

  • @andreasdk
    @andreasdk 8 месяцев назад +2

    This brings back my Intel nightmares :o Will M3 Max have two fans? I don't want another jet plane again. Might just wait for M3 Air and accept a drop in performance :( (Great video!)

  • @DarkP1
    @DarkP1 8 месяцев назад

    that's the same M2 macbook 13" now disguise in a M2 pro 14" case. so they charge extra $300 for the benefits of that case without the cooling upgrade. if they updated the cooling like in the 14" M2 pro it will be the quietest and coolest mac of the bunch.

  • @ASignOfTheThymes
    @ASignOfTheThymes 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for exposing this. I know a lot of RUclipsrs won't mention it.
    As a public service, could you make some content on how much repairs of Apple silicon Macs cost? I know a lot of people would like to see that.
    The design seems like such a great marketing opportunity, a company could make a replacement, deeper base for the MacBook Pro for those who only intend to use theirs on the desktop, especially for taxing working loads. The base would be, say, 15MM deeper and include an intake fan and out fan, slim but wide fan blades fan, to spin at a slow inaudible speed to shift more air along shrouds, to both prevent thermal throttling and increase life expectancy of the MacBook Pro and its fan.
    When I started out as an AV tech, the mantra was that heat and dust kill and that, with age, that dust and drying out of thermal paste (does the Mac Pro use liquid metal, instead?), temperatures could rise more, or rather thermal throttling protection thermal throttles performance more to cope. I'm sure Apple aren't stupid, know what their silicon can take before it's time to thermally throttle. I imagine the fan is high quality. Still, spinning fans at high rpms could shorten the life of the fan (what's the life expectancy of that part, do we know, how easy is it to replace? costly repair?).
    Rather than a fan control app like I used on my old iMac that expired from overheating, anyway, is there an app that can step down performance of the CPU to stop it going anywhere near 108?
    Be interested to hear if Apple have improved the cooling on the entry level iMac. Haven't seen an ifixit teardown, yet. I'm sure you'll let us know.
    Really hoped Apple were working for better cooling solutions for their products, excellent though those products are, though still probably not great for gaming, especially the 8GB model.
    Keep it up, many thanks, liked and shared.

  • @KiFriday1
    @KiFriday1 6 месяцев назад

    Ok i need some advice, recently i went to Best Buy and looked in the open box/used section and they had a 16 inch M2 Pro 12 core CPU 19 core GPU, 512 GB SSD, 16 GB Ram, it was in wonderful condition, and 14 on the cycle count on the battery and i got it for $1500 and then i got a 2TB SSD for $150, im just wondering if it was a smart choice, Thank You!!!

  • @daveh6356
    @daveh6356 8 месяцев назад

    Wow & that's without running it in game mode for maximum performance. Please include 3DMark Solar Bay for the next one. & makes sure the Blender tests use MetalRT (only 4.0 uses it automatically)

  • @vatoloco1653
    @vatoloco1653 8 месяцев назад +1

    Which of the MacBook m3 has two fans ?

  • @N3tigen
    @N3tigen 8 месяцев назад +1

    I hear that M3 macs comes with Ventura is it right 😮

  • @lukasp681
    @lukasp681 8 месяцев назад

    Confirming that the fan noise is very loud and temp ramps up on the m3 14" Max. Unless you switch to lower power mode and task doubles in time to complete.

  • @Tom-ur7ew
    @Tom-ur7ew 8 месяцев назад

    Would love to see a multitasking stress test comparison M3 base vs M3 16gb vs M3 pro base

  • @timr.2257
    @timr.2257 8 месяцев назад +3

    Cost cutting on something that starts at $1600 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac 8 месяцев назад +10

    Man your vids are really the 🐐, the tests are crazy in-depth and that’s so hard to find elsewhere. You really do a great job showing every aspect and catering to us power users who push our machines to the… Max (hehe) every day. Thanks again!
    I think I’m going for the 16” M3 Max, full version!

  • @yordan826
    @yordan826 8 месяцев назад

    Honestly even if you don’t need the power I would go for the M3 Pro MBP, is $200 more after adding 16gb of ram to the M3 MBP(which you’ll have to if you want your computer to last more than a couple of years), I knew that the compromises on the regular M3 MBP were more than just 8gb of ram as typical Apple fashion, if Apple would start the M3 MBP with 16gb of ram and have the same internals as the M3Pro MBP then the cheaper model makes sense for most people as it will be $400 cheaper with the only difference being a less powerful yet powerful enough chip, but sadly is not.

  • @john___007
    @john___007 8 месяцев назад

    which program do you use for see the temperature in this video? this

  • @webacc159
    @webacc159 8 месяцев назад

    Finally a dream come true I can play Super Mario now on M3 🎉🎉

  • @easterbunny8046
    @easterbunny8046 8 месяцев назад +1

    It seems that the “next” MacBooks evolution should definitely be the Fans! Only Fan”s 🤭

  • @denfishera
    @denfishera 8 месяцев назад +3

    Phew, finally

  • @Drew1218s
    @Drew1218s 8 месяцев назад +3

    apple is so ridiculous. $1,600 for a single fan cooler that can't handle the heat , gen 3 ssd speeds and not gen 4 , and only 8gb of ram 🤦

    • @MaxTechOfficial
      @MaxTechOfficial  8 месяцев назад

      It’s just late to ramp up the fans. Once it ramps up the heat gets handled just fine

    • @Johnmims65
      @Johnmims65 8 месяцев назад

      ​@MaxTechOfficial I just received mine haven't taking out of box yet. Do u think I'll be fine . I'll mainly use for web browsing, video calls, watching content, and emails?

    • @Drew1218s
      @Drew1218s 8 месяцев назад

      that's good to know but only 8gb at this price is still a big drawback.@@MaxTechOfficial

  • @mynock250
    @mynock250 8 месяцев назад

    My read and write speed on the m3 pro, was more then 2x the one you showed, using the same software .

  • @KevSarmiento
    @KevSarmiento 7 месяцев назад

    Speaking of the teardown. Does the base housing cover plastic or aluminum?

  • @charlesockholmes9764
    @charlesockholmes9764 8 месяцев назад

    Will you compare it to the maxed out 15 inch MBA?

  • @utubekullanicisi
    @utubekullanicisi 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'm glad they're letting it reach >108C (the 'N/A' that appeared on one of the sensors means the temperature on that core was higher than the sensor can measure, so it was actually higher than 108C), it means they're not leaving performance on the table for the sake of pleasing people with irrational temperature fears.
    Even if we had better cooling on this, I'd rather they still let the temperatures reach >108C, because then that would mean they'd be making one of two tradeoffs (or both in different circumstances), 1. if the fans and/or heatpipes were bigger, that would allow them to spin up the fans even less for the same cooling capacity which would save energy on a battery-powered device, 2. they'd be using all of the cooling capacity of the device to maximize the performance.
    Hopefully future architectures will allow for even higher safe operating temperatures, so they can push the clocks higher.

    • @chasecrappel9480
      @chasecrappel9480 8 месяцев назад

      Removing a fan is actively leaving performance on the table lmao.

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 8 месяцев назад

      @@chasecrappel9480 Which is something I expected for a theoretical low-end 14" MacBook Pro, because all previous low-end 13" MBPs had one fan. But I thought one fan would still be enough to support the maximum TDP of the M3 chip, because I thought the new generation fans found in the 14" MBPs were more capable, in addition to being quieter and and sounding less annoying. Though the latter point is still true for this new model.