I got this game a bit ago, but have not played it because I wanted to 100% Disgaea 5 first. Sadly Disgaea 5 broke me. After hours of grinding to get a sage to 20M stats. The last 3 carnage levels are just impossible unless you have a full squad of equally strong characters, and I just don't want to sink any more time like that. It made me question if I even wanted to play this game at all, but this video made all my worries go away. Now I feel I can start the game off right.
I appreciate the recap. I was coming here to do, well, just about this. I wanted to brush up on some Disgaea content you've made. I appreciate the pretty concise distillment into _a_ video. Also, the non-intrusive subscribe animation feels like the way to go. It didn't break the flow of the video and you got to overlay the request whilst still administering your information. I'm leaving this message and thank you in comment format because idk if it makes this a comment or not. First time I've used this tip feature. Apologies on not subbing before. I totally thought I had! Thanks again, Primal.
no problem man, whenever theres a remake/remaster/re-release for games i cover i always try and do simplified guides with any updates stratagies or just make them easier to understand for newer players! glad you like the sub overlay though! And yes the thanks feature turns into a comment :) so thank you very much for that i appreciate it!
Something I’ve been noticing with each of these guides, is that one of the biggest reasons I think a lot of fans were turned off by this game, is just how much of it requires that you rethink your approach. Things like the martial training maps being unreliable even earlier on, or character stats mattering way more than item stats for instance. Reincarnation being something you want to do often, rather than just being something you do once the character is at max level, etc. Considering I’ve played all of these games at least once, have delved into post game in several of them. That I have also made it a habit to set the difficulty to max at the earliest possible opportunity, to get the most challenging experience out of it that’s possible; it’s very odd to play a game like 6 where the difficulty feels almost irrelevant in the first few chapters. I didn’t have to actually work on powering up characters until about mid chapter 2, and had set the difficulty to 20 immediately. This game is almost like a fever dream compared to other entries to me, and yet I can’t deny I find it’s lategame potential enticing.
That sweet sweet framerate. Honestly enjoyed doing the D6 story on Switch but I was gritting my teeth on the appearance/performance at the end, so looking forward to really grinding my way up on PC tomorrow!
the difference between performance and graphics on console and PC is hard to notice early, but once you get into max speed settings and automation with DI you notice some bad hiccups every now and again, much improved over the switch though
I just wish it wasn't so trash when you want to edit it later, if you want to add in one of the if/thens it almost always is wrong, meaning you need to delete everything past it and re-do it. Wish you could just highlight and move around blocks of script, and place whatever you want in a blank square. Only needs to check if it's a valid arrangement when you try to save.
I hate that the feature everyone loves is the setting that makes you not have to play. Before you say quality of life improvement, you could remove the need to grind that much. I absolutely loved the disgaea series, La Pucille, Soul Nomad, etc. It took so long to muster the will to stomach this game. If 7 is anything like this one I'd have to be done with this series too. The 100k kills, the juice bar uses, the karma farming (there's no auto reincarnate settings), less than half the classes than the previous entry. The juice bar class/ weapon xp feature and printing evility scroll without character world were nice though.
@@DecimusEX from what I've seen Thiers more classes and it's back to whoever gets the kill gets the exp in d7 demo, the demonic intellect is in but the way to use it is changed since auto fight is different being it can only be used on already completed stages, don't about know item world tho.
these numbers are insane. I've never seen this in a disgaea game before, let alone anywhere else. like I can't even read these numbers that's crazy. also thanks for the tips
Martial 4 is the best stage I've found so far for grinding levels in the 1M-9M range. Downside is that neither Mao nor the Galaxy Mage can strictly solo it, so you need to have both active, but it's approximately as fast as Peaceful 5 (maybe 1.5-2x as long) and gets me 16-32B per completion rather than 1B for 14-5 at 2-stars (using your prinny squad strategy but being not yet able to fully unlock carnage mode).
Thank you for this guide! I've been looking for a reason to play this game. I bought it day one and felt like I wasn't playing this efficiently. This is getting me excited to start a new file! You're a G Primal!
Been a Disgaea fan since the very first one, but don't own a Switch & wasn't gonna get one for just this game. So I'm glad the game finally got out of timed exclusivity hell. I'm currently still kind of avoiding the full-on grind, because that would pretty much trivialize the main game. I still wanna get through that one w/o getting too OP & just powering through everything using 1 super-OP character (w/o messing about with cheat shop difficulty stars too much, but even normal 20 star could be cheased if you start farming EXP). I'm staying away from DLC characters too at first, just to experience the game as intended, getting new characters as intended. I do feel like in this game, you end up OP for the campaign pretty quickly w/o even grinding too much compared to previous games. Even with minimal grinding, say Rich Man's Plaza a few times to get some mana here & there gets me to OP territory too quick. I kind of remember doing some story grinding in older Disgaea games w/o getting too OP too quickly. Items/Equipment in this game has been completely trivialized though. I used to try 'n examine enemies in the story, try 'n find some that had a nice legendary weapon of some sort and try to farm some steals of that item. It used to actually matter. In this game, it's like none of the enemies get rare/legendaries and all enemies pack the exact same gear (I'm like a few chapters in, the magic school). Chapter relevant gear in and of itself also doesn't seem to stack up to even just a couple 100 levels. I never did item world in older games until at least regular rank 40 weapons showed up, but the chapter relevant gear was at least worth it in older games even w/o taking them up a bunch of levels. Now I'm still running old ass gear and mostly 'regular' rarity and it just doesn't matter all that much. Running out of SP also ain't a thing unless you level up skills, but that takes a whole bunch of mana, which you'd need to farm for, which would make you totally OP due to accompanying EXP & trivialize the whole game again (can't set EXP to 0 probably until you finish the main campaign). So yeah ... I feel that in raising everything up to 111, they totally broke the balance on this game. Like mentioned in the vid, equipment seems to actually be mostly irrelevant until perhaps the very very last super ultimate fight. And even w/o hearing that in this vid, I've already felt that after only a few chapters. I'm still liking my time with the game though. But do hope they get the balance of stats & equipment relevancy in order for the next one. Especially for the duration of the main campaign (which I really don't wanna just auto-fight through using a bunch of terribly OP characters, which were also auto-faught levels). I do enjoy seeing the content ... it'll certainly be useful, but probably once I finish the main campaign.
Gonna slightly disagree on 2-3 "not being worth it". All I did was jack EXP upto 140% (highest I could set it at that point), turned animations off. Then I just randomly tried auto battle for the first time. And all my character's doubled their levels in 5 minutes. I didn't equip any evilities, or even increase the enemy strength. It's not true power leveling, but it makes it easier to just auto battle through the main game. Later on, stages like 6-5 and 11-5 can help you hit lv9999 in the main game (which is overkill, but helps for the postgame).
I just ordered the Complete Deluxe Edtion for PS4 of this game! ... As well as a second Disgaea 5 Launch Edition (I already have the download version, so for the artbook and soundtrack mostly and - 50 % of the normal price) ... Plus Disgaea 7: Vows of the Virtueless Deluxe Edition - since it is out tomorrow in Europe... But I will receive it all saturday. Oh well, soon enough!
First, not sure if you ever saw my comment on one of your videos about the original Disgaea 6, but in one video, you stated that it's impossible to have a character do nothing unless you seal their abilities with Fetters and end a Train of Thought with a special skill that they won't be able to use. That's not true. A Train of Thought needs only end in a "Do What?" node. Even if it has a space to add another node after, it's still valid as a ToT-ender. So you can even end a ToT with "Move to target". Second, Combo Maker boosts normal attacks by 2, not 1, if its description is accurate. So with 4 Combo Makers, you won't be doing 5 normal attacks per attack; you'll be doing 9.
Hi there primaliquid love all of your videos and i was just listening to your voice and it occurred to me that you sound just like Curtis Pritchard from season 5 of love island I’m very sorry if its not who you are can you confirm or deny??????
Please tell me, how much level i need to leveling the character before i do the Super Reincarnate? When i use the dlc character ? (Early game or late game)
How difficult is this game for a newbie to the series? I really like the look of it, but it seems: a) very grindy, b) quite complicated, c) as a result of both a & b, I can see a lot of hours sunk in to a wrong path and hating myself? Apart from that, it looks like so much fun, and a game which could feel very rewarding if you get it right
question: can you have multiple generic characters and then 'store' them in a room (like in disgaea 3 and 4?)? i.e, you can have 1 warrior at rank 1, another at rank 2, another at rank 3; or do you just promote the same generic character up to the next rank?
dont try and speed through it like i did, you'll miss the enjoyment, i could only do it this fast because i played it for over 1000 hours when it released on the switch
This game is coming out very soon on PC and I'm terrified. After beating this I'll need to actually go and beat Baal in all of the games. Save me. Well, best of luck, folks. Will keep this bookmarked for when the game comes out.
im confused, you said that the only person who gains exp is the one who kills the mobs then next line you said that everyone who participated in the fight gets the exp. so which one is true?
both are true, the person who does the killing is the one who takes advantage of the exp evilities, but the exp doesnt go to just him, it goes "into a pot" and everybody who was out in the field gets the exp even if they dont do anything from that pot
Arbitrary precision arithmetic is not difficult. We've been doing math on numbers too big to store natively the same way since the era of 8 bit systems. Hell, some languages like Python don't care what the bit width of your integer is and handle it automatically behind the scenes.
@@Bobbias I think at the time of Final Fantasy Tactics for one that was still an issue, though. As well as floating point division. But I'm not sure. I guess modern platforms can just handle that under the hood, yeah
This game is incredibly confusing to me and I’ve never managed to understand the actual disgaea parts of these games. I can finish the main story but this post game stuff just makes no sense.
item world is important, only MUCH MUCH later compared to normal disgaea, think of how in D5 for example you dont even need to touch the IW until your in carnage mode, this is just like that however it happens in rakshasa
yea god forbid i actually give people the advice they need to make life easier huh instead of just saying "dont do this" without offering any explanation
@@Primalliquid92 man I wouldn’t call bloating 5 points out into 40 minutes “ making life easier “ If buddy didn’t timestamp the points for you I wouldn’t have even bothered. It’s just lazy content, you legit just sit here and talk at the camera for 40 minutes without any editing.
Wow, you're so cool, you know so much about this game. Wish I could be as cool as you, sitting around all day on my ass in front of a screen. Shalllll weeee 🤡🤡🤡
Literally been watching the guides from last year all weekend haha. Thanks for covering this again!
Anytime dude 😁
lol same here!
1: Evilties(1:09)
2: Grinding stages(8:25)
3: D-Merits(13:20)
4: The Witch(23:57)
5: Item World(29:25)
hero
*evilities (had to sorry)
@@Primalliquid92 Hey. Out of curiosity, how would you rate Disgaea 6 compared to the previous titles?
good work dood...
I got this game a bit ago, but have not played it because I wanted to 100% Disgaea 5 first. Sadly Disgaea 5 broke me. After hours of grinding to get a sage to 20M stats. The last 3 carnage levels are just impossible unless you have a full squad of equally strong characters, and I just don't want to sink any more time like that. It made me question if I even wanted to play this game at all, but this video made all my worries go away. Now I feel I can start the game off right.
I appreciate the recap. I was coming here to do, well, just about this. I wanted to brush up on some Disgaea content you've made. I appreciate the pretty concise distillment into _a_ video.
Also, the non-intrusive subscribe animation feels like the way to go. It didn't break the flow of the video and you got to overlay the request whilst still administering your information.
I'm leaving this message and thank you in comment format because idk if it makes this a comment or not. First time I've used this tip feature.
Apologies on not subbing before. I totally thought I had! Thanks again, Primal.
no problem man, whenever theres a remake/remaster/re-release for games i cover i always try and do simplified guides with any updates stratagies or just make them easier to understand for newer players! glad you like the sub overlay though!
And yes the thanks feature turns into a comment :) so thank you very much for that i appreciate it!
Something I’ve been noticing with each of these guides, is that one of the biggest reasons I think a lot of fans were turned off by this game, is just how much of it requires that you rethink your approach. Things like the martial training maps being unreliable even earlier on, or character stats mattering way more than item stats for instance. Reincarnation being something you want to do often, rather than just being something you do once the character is at max level, etc.
Considering I’ve played all of these games at least once, have delved into post game in several of them. That I have also made it a habit to set the difficulty to max at the earliest possible opportunity, to get the most challenging experience out of it that’s possible; it’s very odd to play a game like 6 where the difficulty feels almost irrelevant in the first few chapters. I didn’t have to actually work on powering up characters until about mid chapter 2, and had set the difficulty to 20 immediately. This game is almost like a fever dream compared to other entries to me, and yet I can’t deny I find it’s lategame potential enticing.
That sweet sweet framerate. Honestly enjoyed doing the D6 story on Switch but I was gritting my teeth on the appearance/performance at the end, so looking forward to really grinding my way up on PC tomorrow!
the difference between performance and graphics on console and PC is hard to notice early, but once you get into max speed settings and automation with DI you notice some bad hiccups every now and again, much improved over the switch though
My favorite thing in this game will forever be the Demonic Intelligence.
its a very nice quality of life feature for sure
I just wish it wasn't so trash when you want to edit it later, if you want to add in one of the if/thens it almost always is wrong, meaning you need to delete everything past it and re-do it.
Wish you could just highlight and move around blocks of script, and place whatever you want in a blank square.
Only needs to check if it's a valid arrangement when you try to save.
@@Nevir202 Depending on where you are when you put the [IF], the next line could go to the left to below. Adding IFs is not that bad.
I hate that the feature everyone loves is the setting that makes you not have to play.
Before you say quality of life improvement, you could remove the need to grind that much.
I absolutely loved the disgaea series, La Pucille, Soul Nomad, etc.
It took so long to muster the will to stomach this game.
If 7 is anything like this one I'd have to be done with this series too.
The 100k kills, the juice bar uses, the karma farming (there's no auto reincarnate settings), less than half the classes than the previous entry.
The juice bar class/ weapon xp feature and printing evility scroll without character world were nice though.
@@DecimusEX from what I've seen Thiers more classes and it's back to whoever gets the kill gets the exp in d7 demo, the demonic intellect is in but the way to use it is changed since auto fight is different being it can only be used on already completed stages, don't about know item world tho.
these numbers are insane. I've never seen this in a disgaea game before, let alone anywhere else. like I can't even read these numbers that's crazy. also thanks for the tips
Martial 4 is the best stage I've found so far for grinding levels in the 1M-9M range. Downside is that neither Mao nor the Galaxy Mage can strictly solo it, so you need to have both active, but it's approximately as fast as Peaceful 5 (maybe 1.5-2x as long) and gets me 16-32B per completion rather than 1B for 14-5 at 2-stars (using your prinny squad strategy but being not yet able to fully unlock carnage mode).
Thank you for this guide! I've been looking for a reason to play this game. I bought it day one and felt like I wasn't playing this efficiently. This is getting me excited to start a new file! You're a G Primal!
D6 is for sure one of those which is harder to grasp than previous entries because fundimentally power comes from different sources
Been a Disgaea fan since the very first one, but don't own a Switch & wasn't gonna get one for just this game. So I'm glad the game finally got out of timed exclusivity hell.
I'm currently still kind of avoiding the full-on grind, because that would pretty much trivialize the main game. I still wanna get through that one w/o getting too OP & just powering through everything using 1 super-OP character (w/o messing about with cheat shop difficulty stars too much, but even normal 20 star could be cheased if you start farming EXP).
I'm staying away from DLC characters too at first, just to experience the game as intended, getting new characters as intended.
I do feel like in this game, you end up OP for the campaign pretty quickly w/o even grinding too much compared to previous games. Even with minimal grinding, say Rich Man's Plaza a few times to get some mana here & there gets me to OP territory too quick. I kind of remember doing some story grinding in older Disgaea games w/o getting too OP too quickly.
Items/Equipment in this game has been completely trivialized though. I used to try 'n examine enemies in the story, try 'n find some that had a nice legendary weapon of some sort and try to farm some steals of that item. It used to actually matter.
In this game, it's like none of the enemies get rare/legendaries and all enemies pack the exact same gear (I'm like a few chapters in, the magic school). Chapter relevant gear in and of itself also doesn't seem to stack up to even just a couple 100 levels. I never did item world in older games until at least regular rank 40 weapons showed up, but the chapter relevant gear was at least worth it in older games even w/o taking them up a bunch of levels.
Now I'm still running old ass gear and mostly 'regular' rarity and it just doesn't matter all that much.
Running out of SP also ain't a thing unless you level up skills, but that takes a whole bunch of mana, which you'd need to farm for, which would make you totally OP due to accompanying EXP & trivialize the whole game again (can't set EXP to 0 probably until you finish the main campaign).
So yeah ... I feel that in raising everything up to 111, they totally broke the balance on this game. Like mentioned in the vid, equipment seems to actually be mostly irrelevant until perhaps the very very last super ultimate fight. And even w/o hearing that in this vid, I've already felt that after only a few chapters.
I'm still liking my time with the game though. But do hope they get the balance of stats & equipment relevancy in order for the next one.
Especially for the duration of the main campaign (which I really don't wanna just auto-fight through using a bunch of terribly OP characters, which were also auto-faught levels).
I do enjoy seeing the content ... it'll certainly be useful, but probably once I finish the main campaign.
Gonna slightly disagree on 2-3 "not being worth it".
All I did was jack EXP upto 140% (highest I could set it at that point), turned animations off. Then I just randomly tried auto battle for the first time. And all my character's doubled their levels in 5 minutes. I didn't equip any evilities, or even increase the enemy strength.
It's not true power leveling, but it makes it easier to just auto battle through the main game.
Later on, stages like 6-5 and 11-5 can help you hit lv9999 in the main game (which is overkill, but helps for the postgame).
Thank you for this video it will help me a lot
I just ordered the Complete Deluxe Edtion for PS4 of this game!
... As well as a second Disgaea 5 Launch Edition (I already have the download version, so for the artbook and soundtrack mostly and - 50 % of the normal price)
... Plus Disgaea 7: Vows of the Virtueless Deluxe Edition - since it is out tomorrow in Europe...
But I will receive it all saturday. Oh well, soon enough!
As soon as I saw the dlc part of the video I got ALL the characters.....this roster is gonna be STACKED...
Thanks for all the content
I'm going to play this on playstation. Can't wait
Save often, playstation crashes more than the switch vers
Great video, thanks.
Great stuff ma boi! Just a bit gutted that D6 is so expensive on Steam....
how much is it on steam?
@@Primalliquid92 69.99 Euro, so about 60 pound I guess. That's more than a new AAA game... and a very obvious cash grab by NIS
First, not sure if you ever saw my comment on one of your videos about the original Disgaea 6, but in one video, you stated that it's impossible to have a character do nothing unless you seal their abilities with Fetters and end a Train of Thought with a special skill that they won't be able to use.
That's not true. A Train of Thought needs only end in a "Do What?" node. Even if it has a space to add another node after, it's still valid as a ToT-ender. So you can even end a ToT with "Move to target".
Second, Combo Maker boosts normal attacks by 2, not 1, if its description is accurate. So with 4 Combo Makers, you won't be doing 5 normal attacks per attack; you'll be doing 9.
I can't seem to make an evility scroll for prinny instructor valvatorez does have it but it doesn't show up in the create evility scroll menu.
Hi there primaliquid love all of your videos and i was just listening to your voice and it occurred to me that you sound just like Curtis Pritchard from season 5 of love island I’m very sorry if its not who you are can you confirm or deny??????
i dont even know who that is lol
I'm new to the series, where should I start? Im thin to buy this game for switch or ps5 any recommendation
So if we don't have the DLC step 1 is completely useless then.
Please tell me, how much level i need to leveling the character before i do the Super Reincarnate? When i use the dlc character ? (Early game or late game)
I saw the other video of yours "The Ultimate Guide To Being Overpowered", but is this method better?
both should sorta be done together, some of the tricks are more refined in this video though
Whoa steam finally got a port. Now just waiting for 3.
at this point i think if they were going to do D3 they would have done it by now
How difficult is this game for a newbie to the series? I really like the look of it, but it seems: a) very grindy, b) quite complicated, c) as a result of both a & b, I can see a lot of hours sunk in to a wrong path and hating myself?
Apart from that, it looks like so much fun, and a game which could feel very rewarding if you get it right
Thanks for all the tips Prima !! :)
Will you do a trophy guide for the game ?? :p (I am kidding XDD)
nah not for trophies, but all my guides combined will be more than enough to get the plat anyway
will you be making tips and tricks for disgaea 7 once it out in the west
but of course
question: can you have multiple generic characters and then 'store' them in a room (like in disgaea 3 and 4?)? i.e, you can have 1 warrior at rank 1, another at rank 2, another at rank 3; or do you just promote the same generic character up to the next rank?
you can have as many as you want at any rank
This guy threw a temper tantrum on Gamefaqs LMFAO. 🤣
what? me? i've never had a meltdown on gamefaqs, i barely even post on there
I can't believe you did all that in 24 hours or so. Unreal. How do I unlock the War Lady? I got the game yesterday.
dont try and speed through it like i did, you'll miss the enjoyment, i could only do it this fast because i played it for over 1000 hours when it released on the switch
i love disgaea i havent played this one yet i really need too.
totally should yea
Is Disgaea 6 worth buying? I liked prior Disgaea games, but heard some very negative stuff about 6. What do you all think about Disgaea 6?
you might be interested in a review im currently making, as for a "should you buy" its really down to preference on many of the systems really
If we buy the physic copy of the game do we have to buy the dlc characters?
How the heck did you do it all in 16 hours lol. That's damn impressive
once you know what your doing its really not that hard lol i also had all the experience from the switch version of the game
@@Primalliquid92 Sure, but I'm still mindblown. Half of that time must have been just grinding kills on a War Lady for Infernal Corrosion
So what level do they learn the Evilties you suggested?
Are there any exploits in the demo like there were for the switch version!
This game is coming out very soon on PC and I'm terrified.
After beating this I'll need to actually go and beat Baal in all of the games. Save me.
Well, best of luck, folks. Will keep this bookmarked for when the game comes out.
beating baal is actually easier in all of the other games, normal and carnage baal in this is an absolute joke, but rakshasa baal is annoying af
kill 100.000 enemies that very insane D-Merit...... i dont know how much time do we need to finish it .....
I just started playing the switch version again 🤣
dont blame you lol, save yourself £60
How does someone who plays and makes this much content about disgaea still think evilities is pronounced "evil-tees". It rhymes with "abilities".
Man it’s even worse , he says “ ehvel-tees “
im confused, you said that the only person who gains exp is the one who kills the mobs then next line you said that everyone who participated in the fight gets the exp. so which one is true?
both are true, the person who does the killing is the one who takes advantage of the exp evilities, but the exp doesnt go to just him, it goes "into a pot" and everybody who was out in the field gets the exp even if they dont do anything from that pot
I wonder how Disgaea deals with integer overflow, I mean 65 bit unsigned is only 20 digits...
not a clue lol
Arbitrary precision arithmetic is not difficult. We've been doing math on numbers too big to store natively the same way since the era of 8 bit systems. Hell, some languages like Python don't care what the bit width of your integer is and handle it automatically behind the scenes.
@@Bobbias I think at the time of Final Fantasy Tactics for one that was still an issue, though. As well as floating point division. But I'm not sure. I guess modern platforms can just handle that under the hood, yeah
Can you do this on disgaea 5??
How does one get an accent like this? Interesting...
DISGAEA~!
:)
wtf 75 quintillion hp thats just pointless x'D love your vids tho
disgaea has always been overkill with the numbers
This game is incredibly confusing to me and I’ve never managed to understand the actual disgaea parts of these games. I can finish the main story but this post game stuff just makes no sense.
skip animation not work for all or only me ?
there are different levels of it you need to unlock
where was the playthrough. :(
i never do playthroughs for disgaea, just guides
hey man. you keep saying "evilty" missing out the second I. it's like abilities but evil. evil ities, mildly frustrated about that sorry
If the item world isn't important then what is even the point of a disgaea game?
item world is important, only MUCH MUCH later compared to normal disgaea, think of how in D5 for example you dont even need to touch the IW until your in carnage mode, this is just like that however it happens in rakshasa
$70
a 40 min video to talk about 5 things? no
yea god forbid i actually give people the advice they need to make life easier huh instead of just saying "dont do this" without offering any explanation
@@Primalliquid92 man I wouldn’t call bloating 5 points out into 40 minutes “ making life easier “
If buddy didn’t timestamp the points for you I wouldn’t have even bothered.
It’s just lazy content, you legit just sit here and talk at the camera for 40 minutes without any editing.
Wow, you're so cool, you know so much about this game. Wish I could be as cool as you, sitting around all day on my ass in front of a screen. Shalllll weeee 🤡🤡🤡
Why watch the vid? Baffled by people like you