26:00 Better stats? Josh Allen threw EIGHTEEN interceptions last year, that guy is really deluded enough to think they were really gonna reward an MVP to someone averaging a little over a pick a game? Come on man, probably yet another reason why Lamar DID get it last year with no eye-popping stats on paper himself.
fr, no one last year had allen for MVP, all of a sudden everyone is saying that they thought allen should've won and allen was better. NOBODY at this time last year had allen for MVP, the only other guy who has actually in the race was CMC. also if you look at allens TWP% (turnover worthy play %) its practically the same as last year, he's 17th the main reason he doesn't have more picks is luck, lamar is 1st in TWP% meaning he protects the ball better than any other QB. Not trying to hate on allen and i also think that MVP shouldnt be decided just on stats cus stats don't tell the full story, for example Gus Edwards had 13 rushing TDs last year beacuse lamar set the offense up in good position
@@phishinabucket7331 actually Shatz, the DVOA guy, was the only voter that voted for Allen last year, and was the reason why Lamar didn't get his 2nd unanimous MVP.
Before the season the narative was Derek Henry is a 30 year old back, didn't gain a bunch of interest from teams outside of Baltimore and his game is going to decline. Now it's Lamar has help from a future HOFer and top back in the league. 💀
That mixed with people feeling bad that Allen has never gotten one lmao it’s literally EXACTLY like Embiids MVP over Jokic… we all knew Jokic was the best player that season, but he had already won multiple MVPs so voters felt sick of giving it to him & awarded it to Embiid lol it’s disgusting but it’s the truth…
This is nothing new for me. Lamar was doing this at Louisville. Just look at the tape when he won the Heisman. And truth be told he should have won 2.🤷🏿♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♀️
That’s cute that he shifted the national conversation but he’s already a two time MVP. The only two time MVP without a SB win. What he needs is a shift in the conversation on playoff performance and that will only come with playing better in the playoffs. That’s where we are- the regular season award debate bores most Ravens who are hungry to see Ravens playoff wins.
The offense scored 31 points yesterday, which is impressive enough. But tell me: If he had had to score 50 points to win, could he have? Absolutely. What happens to Lamar is his stats are best in the league, but still aren't even as good as they would be if he was playing on a team with a bad defense. It's like reverse stat padding.
Oh for heaven's sakes! Lamar looks better on tape but does he look more valuable. Ridiculous Acho. Lamar's stats this season are not just better than Josh, this season is historic in multiple ways in ALL NFL history! There should be no question of MVP.
Remember after the Eagles loss, when the talking heads laughed at Mike Tomlin's snarky response to the reporter's question, "How do you stop one loss from spiraling into more?" Maybe Mike should have taken that question more seriously.
We all tend to get fatigued when it comes to greatness. Look at the chiefs, look at the patriots. Now it's Baltimore's ti. Let us handle the adversity that comes with being the greatest with the class intelligence of a champion. Even in the media it has Begun.
All this is great He is a THE MVP. But in all seriousness we want that Super Bowl ring!!! Without it I am afraid they will always see him as second best 🤷🏽♀️ Let’s win the whole thing!!
@@BLK_GOD he lost one meaningful weapon in Diggs which is almost definitely addition my subtraction. Henry is obviously great but the Ravens have worse drop % and worse pressure rate than the Bills. Factor in missed kicks and that argument about team help is kind of dumb.
Yes Ravens go in the Chief s house and beat them for the AFC Championship and celebrate it in their house , Wow be alot of upset fans there!!!!!! Go Ravens
I hope Sherman, an ex-football player wouldn’t have voted for Josh Allen last year when he had 18 interceptions. Turnovers are a huge factor in losses.
Baltimore ravens the ninth step against now. MP3 Lamar Jackson is the best n.Fl player, the most characteristic and the most productive value is value.No need to ski magically approach the word.It's simple better it's more bad
Allen should be disqualified for his whiny excuses after his abysmal game against the Parriots pretending they had no reason to try when his team would have lost if Maye didn't throw a lateral into the end zone.
Lamar is putting up better numbers against better teams with less measurable help. The Ravens allow more pressures and drop a higher % of passes. The better player argument is non-existent.
@peterg6953 how does that say different? Henry doesn't affect the passing game and if anything Henry having the best year of his career AND Lamar leading the NFL in so many ways shows how VALUABLE Jackson is.
@timlanigironu having a rusher that is potent enough to rush for nearly 2k yards is enough for the defense to significantly focus their strategies on neutralizing him rather than focus on the passer. We have a phenomenal triple threat every snap with Henry and lamar behind the line. Lamar can run and throw and henry can run; every single aspect is a game ender for opponents so having henry in our arsenal divides defenses' attentions even more than with just lamar.
@@peterg6953 still shortsighted and uninformed. Look up previous Ravens running back stats. Every running back opposite Lamar looks good. Gus Edwards was near the NFL record for ypc. Henry is fantastic, but again, he's having his best season ever because defenses devote people to Lamar every snap. And that is completely irrelevant to a couple of the other points I made, when PASSING Baltimore has a higher pressure rate than Buffalo pretty handily, and a higher drop %. And further, Henry having 1700 yards makes it even more impressive that Lamar is top 5 in NFL passing yards and TDs while chipping in 850 himself.
@timlanigironu you call me shortlisted and uninformed then proceed to compare gus edwards' stats to king Henry's lmfao. Should I really entertain this bs or should you do some research instead of reaching
Jackson IS the MVP. He is fortunate that the post season is not part of the equation. I would rather a QB be just above average in the regular season and a beast in post season. Sounds like another Raven's QB?
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26:00 Better stats? Josh Allen threw EIGHTEEN interceptions last year, that guy is really deluded enough to think they were really gonna reward an MVP to someone averaging a little over a pick a game? Come on man, probably yet another reason why Lamar DID get it last year with no eye-popping stats on paper himself.
fr, no one last year had allen for MVP, all of a sudden everyone is saying that they thought allen should've won and allen was better. NOBODY at this time last year had allen for MVP, the only other guy who has actually in the race was CMC. also if you look at allens TWP% (turnover worthy play %) its practically the same as last year, he's 17th the main reason he doesn't have more picks is luck, lamar is 1st in TWP% meaning he protects the ball better than any other QB. Not trying to hate on allen and i also think that MVP shouldnt be decided just on stats cus stats don't tell the full story, for example Gus Edwards had 13 rushing TDs last year beacuse lamar set the offense up in good position
Ravens can definitely beat the Chief now their house will not matter just be alot more fans upset because the Chiefs lost it coming!!!
I don't think no team has a high red zone scoring percentage than the Ravens in the NFL
@@phishinabucket7331 actually Shatz, the DVOA guy, was the only voter that voted for Allen last year, and was the reason why Lamar didn't get his 2nd unanimous MVP.
@@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647 ik, and suddenly everyone’s saying that allen should’ve won last year
I have said it a number of times that I don't believe there is another QB in the league who could have made that TD play to Likely.
Before the season the narative was Derek Henry is a 30 year old back, didn't gain a bunch of interest from teams outside of Baltimore and his game is going to decline. Now it's Lamar has help from a future HOFer and top back in the league. 💀
I’m hoping the only reason people are championing Allen is because of Lamar fatigue. Nothing else makes any sense 🤨
Incorrect. white supremacist philosophy explains it.
That mixed with people feeling bad that Allen has never gotten one lmao it’s literally EXACTLY like Embiids MVP over Jokic… we all knew Jokic was the best player that season, but he had already won multiple MVPs so voters felt sick of giving it to him & awarded it to Embiid lol it’s disgusting but it’s the truth…
There is one more thing. Lamar isn't white enough so he would need to change his name to Michael
@@95alive77 I guess RUclips is erasing my comments. They are championing Allen because the NFL and ESPN are plagued by white supremacists philosophy.
Please win the whole thing. Please. Let it all work out.
We need Steve young back ok. It feels like this is the exact place he said Lamar could get to when given the opportunity to develop.
This is nothing new for me. Lamar was doing this at Louisville. Just look at the tape when he won the Heisman. And truth be told he should have won 2.🤷🏿♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♀️
That’s cute that he shifted the national conversation but he’s already a two time MVP. The only two time MVP without a SB win. What he needs is a shift in the conversation on playoff performance and that will only come with playing better in the playoffs. That’s where we are- the regular season award debate bores most Ravens who are hungry to see Ravens playoff wins.
The offense scored 31 points yesterday, which is impressive enough. But tell me: If he had had to score 50 points to win, could he have? Absolutely. What happens to Lamar is his stats are best in the league, but still aren't even as good as they would be if he was playing on a team with a bad defense. It's like reverse stat padding.
I picked the Steelers losing that 3 straight too, Go Ravens get that title just better be ready for the Browns done let them upset you!!!!!
1:00:29 1:03:06 KC ***IS NOT*** going to gift Cincy a golden ticket to get into the playoffs. They’ll gladly take that L.
Oh for heaven's sakes! Lamar looks better on tape but does he look more valuable. Ridiculous Acho. Lamar's stats this season are not just better than Josh, this season is historic in multiple ways in ALL NFL history! There should be no question of MVP.
Remember after the Eagles loss, when the talking heads laughed at Mike Tomlin's snarky response to the reporter's question, "How do you stop one loss from spiraling into more?"
Maybe Mike should have taken that question more seriously.
We all tend to get fatigued when it comes to greatness. Look at the chiefs, look at the patriots. Now it's Baltimore's ti. Let us handle the adversity that comes with being the greatest with the class intelligence of a champion. Even in the media it has Begun.
I don’t mind that a few of our guys were good friends with Diontae. They were probably close with him before he joined. It is what it is.
Lamar is clearly the MVP. It’s not even close‼️
All this is great He is a
THE MVP. But in all seriousness we want that Super Bowl ring!!!
Without it I am afraid they will always see him as second best 🤷🏽♀️
Let’s win the whole thing!!
What records does Josh Allen break??
What is Josh Allen leading the NFL in?? Its CLEAR and OBVIOUS why they tried to crown OVERRATED Allen the MVP...
He's lost most of his weapons and the team has the number 2 seed that's why.
@@BLK_GODnah bro, it's white supremacy throughout the NFL and ESPN
@@BLK_GOD he lost one meaningful weapon in Diggs which is almost definitely addition my subtraction. Henry is obviously great but the Ravens have worse drop % and worse pressure rate than the Bills. Factor in missed kicks and that argument about team help is kind of dumb.
@@BLK_GOD# 2 Seed only because he plays in that cupcake, soft as butter AFC East
Yes Ravens go in the Chief s house and beat them for the AFC Championship and celebrate it in their house , Wow be alot of upset fans there!!!!!! Go Ravens
Won't care who the Chief's have Ravens can still beat them
I hope Sherman, an ex-football player wouldn’t have voted for Josh Allen last year when he had 18 interceptions. Turnovers are a huge factor in losses.
The only MVP conversation that should be focused on is Super bowl MVP. I've got regular season recognition fatigue like others have Lamar MVP fatigue.
I am 5’5” 160 lb 43 years ready for couple of rounds
so does the voters change every year or ? is there a list of voters ?
Thats good thinking Sarah but I doubt that happens, yes I would take that Sarah
Sorry Sarah co-MVP would be so dumb when Lamar is having a historic season, compared to every QB I’m the history of the NFL
As Lamar says, you guys are dope!!!
Lamar deserves it …not even close!! Let’s put the pesky Browns away early, rest our starters and get ready for playoff football!! 🏈
Baltimore ravens the ninth step against now. MP3 Lamar Jackson is the best n.Fl player, the most characteristic and the most productive value is value.No need to ski magically approach the word.It's simple better it's more bad
Thats a to long of shot for Bengals
Watch JA17 and LJ8 both share the mvp 😂😂😂
Allen should be disqualified for his whiny excuses after his abysmal game against the Parriots pretending they had no reason to try when his team would have lost if Maye didn't throw a lateral into the end zone.
i want lamar to get the 4k & 900+ but i'd rather he sit TBH
Lamar is putting up better numbers against better teams with less measurable help. The Ravens allow more pressures and drop a higher % of passes. The better player argument is non-existent.
1.8k back field rusher says different. Bills ain't got that!
With that's said, he still deserves it based on play.
@peterg6953 how does that say different? Henry doesn't affect the passing game and if anything Henry having the best year of his career AND Lamar leading the NFL in so many ways shows how VALUABLE Jackson is.
@timlanigironu having a rusher that is potent enough to rush for nearly 2k yards is enough for the defense to significantly focus their strategies on neutralizing him rather than focus on the passer.
We have a phenomenal triple threat every snap with Henry and lamar behind the line. Lamar can run and throw and henry can run; every single aspect is a game ender for opponents so having henry in our arsenal divides defenses' attentions even more than with just lamar.
@@peterg6953 still shortsighted and uninformed. Look up previous Ravens running back stats. Every running back opposite Lamar looks good. Gus Edwards was near the NFL record for ypc. Henry is fantastic, but again, he's having his best season ever because defenses devote people to Lamar every snap.
And that is completely irrelevant to a couple of the other points I made, when PASSING Baltimore has a higher pressure rate than Buffalo pretty handily, and a higher drop %. And further, Henry having 1700 yards makes it even more impressive that Lamar is top 5 in NFL passing yards and TDs while chipping in 850 himself.
@timlanigironu you call me shortlisted and uninformed then proceed to compare gus edwards' stats to king Henry's lmfao. Should I really entertain this bs or should you do some research instead of reaching
I don't care what y'all say Dan Orlovsky is voting for Allen.😂😂😂😂
Jackson IS the MVP. He is fortunate that the post season is not part of the equation. I would rather a QB be just above average in the regular season and a beast in post season. Sounds like another Raven's QB?
Flaacco only had 1 good post season. And that team was loaded. More to do with the team than Flaacco.