I know you said this probably won’t happen unless there’s more RC practice required, but really love seeing this perspective of learning the format and it’s helped a lot in a very short time to hear your commentary on the format. I qualified for Dallas but am unable to attend, BeYourGaard wishing you the luckiest top decks imaginables for the tourney!
MTGO actually overflowed with those Virtues! Each land should tap for 3^7=2187 mana, but it shows 138. The max value seems to be 2048, so anything beyond that just goes back to being small.
Edgar is a fantastic player, he used to do a lot of innovation in Legacy during the 2014-2016 era. He was one of the first players I saw playing an effective sideboard creature juke in Legacy Combo decks.
Hey Bosh! Just to ket you know, for your standard appreciation, the simic deck you went up against is called simic cookies. The youtuber Ashlizzle is its main champion. If you wanna learn more about the dexk i reccomend you start there. Im a dimir control player myself and that is a tough but winnable match up. But you have to know how to play against it. Awesome video btw. I love tour content! Huge EG podcast fan too! Thanks!
As much as I love your legacy stuff, it’s nice to see/hear that standard is in a better place. I’ve been watching Gabriel nassif play azorious control on arena/Mtgo and it’s really got me thinking I might be a control player instead of the midrange player I always thought I was. 🤷🏼♂️
Love seeing you playing a new format. Gives me hope that some pioneer games might sneak their way onto your channel eventually, even if only temporarily like I assume this Standard phase will be.
Bosh Legacy - Look at a landrop and an avatar: "OK, this player is on Doomsday with exactly two copies of Thassa's Oracle." Bosh Standard - Turn 7 game 3: "I have never seen any of these cards in my life and they all have a wall of text."
It's been a while since I played standard on MTGO but I'd be happy to see that the leagues are cleaned up. Last I remember the standard leagues were rife with sandbaggers trying to use multiple accounts to farm chests. If the standard leagues are legit now that's a great improvement.
A tournament report video from the RC would be cool. 17:05 Not sure if you spot this later in the video, but Sunken Citadel on white can also cleave Path of Peril in this list.
When you said "Literally hundreds of mana" my brain heard "effectively unlimited mana, but no way it's literally hundreds" and then you queued into that deck and they tapped a single Swamp and a single Island and had 200+ mana in the pool with dozens of untapped lands. So I guess now I know.
As a fluent Standard player. Let me tell you that deck is such a pain to go against. It's sooo good. And it takes so much time especially if you play on arena because when they bring back the sac lands 1 by 1 takes FOREVER to get through the triggers. My average game time with that deck is 34 minutes!😂 It's cool deck, but good lord do I hate it lol
Match 2 was against simic cookies, I believe the player who’s put the most time into the deck is ashlizzle. It’s been kicking around since eldraine but has never really taken off. It is really cool though.
As someone who got into mtg around original inistrad, ive always been a huge fan of hard control in standard. Even if i havent played standard since theros, its cool to see some standard content from time to time.
Standard is a format I play way more than I watch but your commentary really elevates the content, I would not be against seeing Standard on the channel again in the future even if it isn't regularly.
What was funny throughout this league was how most of the cards Brian was most familiar with I hadn't seen before, while most of the ones he didn't recognize were older cards I knew from back when I was paying attention to standard sets. Surprised I still knew any tbh, the 3 year rotation means stuff I expected to already be gone is still here.
@@BoshNRoll Bosh: "...a card I've NEVER seen in life..." me: Oh, I actually know this card, from playing tons of Brothers' War sealed! And then weirdly it happened a second time. (33:10 and 34:52)
Arena is excellent. The rigged shuffler is only for bo1 matches to smooth out the hands. The card weighting is only for brawl and makes perfect sense, because it's not very fun to have a newer player with a significantly underpowered deck playing against top tier combo and control brawl decks constantly. You seem to have misunderstood or are misrepresenting every feature you're complaining about @@GaryAsphodel
Played golgari during standard here: Shelly is pretty good to board, especially since it’s kinda tough to keep removal post board on the golgari side, but for the most part you navigated it perfectly
1:09:50 Opponent taps an island for 139 blue mana. There are 7 Virtue of Strength. Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't it be 2187 mana? 1x3^7 mana per basic land
@@anergyboy2192 That's interesting that it limits production to 139 of a certain type, but that's also where I'm even more confused. If just a simple 8 bit signed or unsigned integer, the limits would be -128 to 127 or 0 to 255. If we move up to a 16 bit integer, those limits go up to -32768 to 32767 or 0 to 65535. Thanks for the information that it's a limited value, though. I guess it's kinda like how they limit tokens to 200 or something.
1:10:16 yeah thats my main gripe with standard control the selection is pretty bad so you kinda have to rely on your deck being in the right order more
I was prepared to have to skip this one, but was pleasantly surprised to see that it was still MTGO and not Arena! I can't begrudge video creators for playing what they want (or feel they have to), but I do unfortunately find Arena completely unwatchable. (E.g. unfortunately-for-me, this is what happened with SaffronOlive's otherwise-lots-of-fun content.) Normally I would also say that I don't care much about Standard, but this video was really interesting, as were the decks on display. If you enjoyed it and do make more Standard MTGO videos, I for one would definitely watch them just like the Eternal videos!
i support you for playing standard to prep, id like to get back to friday night magic but i simply dont know how to get back into standard, let alone if it will be worth it
I dont think standard is bad per se, the main problem with standard is investing in relatively expensive cards that wont see play in any other format, but sometimes you can get away with that. As content, its super fine
I don't care about standard, but if it's for testing purposes for a big tournanent, i guess i can watch you play a competitive league. There are so many releases that i find it really hard to keep up with the meta.
My main complaint in Standard right now is that Midrange decks are squeezed. You either have Slickshot aggro, Boros Convoke aggro, various ramp strategies (5C Atraxa or Nissa Lands) and control. What about Raffine? What about the 5C Legends? These are just control and ramp in disguise. Raffine runs lots of removal and creature interaction (Bat, Loran, Aven, Ertai, graveyard hate on the wolf or rat, etc.). And 5C Legends generally hits 7+ mana before the game is over between Slogurk and the Relic.
I wish standard was better on arena but the abuse of the non randomized starting hands is so savage i got really tired of it with the win grinding decks. I'd really wish for MTGA they would require you to play best of 3 for the hard grind by making it better overall so i can test my durdly cards, i used to have a really cool white/blue deck with dorothea around cheating them in as "attacking" to get around the sacrifice trigger but with the standard format mostly only losing cards on bans my deck got disproportionaly hit and i didnt feel like grinding out more cards. no money for magic, gotta be fed before that! The decks that you played all are so creative feels very nice
So many text on all these cards, I gotta say all the card draw and value in the modern card design version of standard is boring as hell. Allowing different archetypes to run out of gas, and also making decks have to work hard for value is something that magic would benefit from imo
"There is so many words on this" is the definition of Standard in the last decade
I know you said this probably won’t happen unless there’s more RC practice required, but really love seeing this perspective of learning the format and it’s helped a lot in a very short time to hear your commentary on the format. I qualified for Dallas but am unable to attend, BeYourGaard wishing you the luckiest top decks imaginables for the tourney!
MTGO actually overflowed with those Virtues! Each land should tap for 3^7=2187 mana, but it shows 138.
The max value seems to be 2048, so anything beyond that just goes back to being small.
Edgar is a fantastic player, he used to do a lot of innovation in Legacy during the 2014-2016 era.
He was one of the first players I saw playing an effective sideboard creature juke in Legacy Combo decks.
Hey Bosh! Just to ket you know, for your standard appreciation, the simic deck you went up against is called simic cookies. The youtuber Ashlizzle is its main champion. If you wanna learn more about the dexk i reccomend you start there. Im a dimir control player myself and that is a tough but winnable match up. But you have to know how to play against it. Awesome video btw. I love tour content! Huge EG podcast fan too! Thanks!
I think you stepped through the wrong portal but I'm into it.
mtgo standard videos are ultimate rarity since arena came out
I am honestly really impressed with how fun it was to watch you navigate Standard, it makes me want to play Standard myself
As much as I love your legacy stuff, it’s nice to see/hear that standard is in a better place. I’ve been watching Gabriel nassif play azorious control on arena/Mtgo and it’s really got me thinking I might be a control player instead of the midrange player I always thought I was. 🤷🏼♂️
Love seeing you playing a new format. Gives me hope that some pioneer games might sneak their way onto your channel eventually, even if only temporarily like I assume this Standard phase will be.
Pioneer is in my list of things I accept, just need people who want to submit them.
I enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would
That’s what I said throughout learning the format
Bosh Legacy - Look at a landrop and an avatar: "OK, this player is on Doomsday with exactly two copies of Thassa's Oracle."
Bosh Standard - Turn 7 game 3: "I have never seen any of these cards in my life and they all have a wall of text."
It's been a while since I played standard on MTGO but I'd be happy to see that the leagues are cleaned up. Last I remember the standard leagues were rife with sandbaggers trying to use multiple accounts to farm chests. If the standard leagues are legit now that's a great improvement.
They made a bunch of changes like 6-8 months ago so win trading with multiple accounts can’t be done anymore.
Love seeing your take on the standard format
Bosh discovering new cards is the best thing
A tournament report video from the RC would be cool.
17:05 Not sure if you spot this later in the video, but Sunken Citadel on white can also cleave Path of Peril in this list.
Good call!
This has been my recent go-to in Modern, excited to see what you discover about it differently from me as you play! Nice video.
Standard?!?! I didn’t sign up for this 😂
Where’s my daily eternal quota?
(I’m just playing btw)
When you said "Literally hundreds of mana" my brain heard "effectively unlimited mana, but no way it's literally hundreds" and then you queued into that deck and they tapped a single Swamp and a single Island and had 200+ mana in the pool with dozens of untapped lands. So I guess now I know.
Yeah it’s a for real combo deck haha
That Analyst lands deck is so cool. Something about viable combo decks in Standard just hits different
As a fluent Standard player. Let me tell you that deck is such a pain to go against. It's sooo good. And it takes so much time especially if you play on arena because when they bring back the sac lands 1 by 1 takes FOREVER to get through the triggers. My average game time with that deck is 34 minutes!😂 It's cool deck, but good lord do I hate it lol
Match 2 was against simic cookies, I believe the player who’s put the most time into the deck is ashlizzle. It’s been kicking around since eldraine but has never really taken off. It is really cool though.
it top 16d? top 8d? the canada (?) rc i think
@@ashlynwoods8464 Oh cool, didn't know that.
Im lowkey mad I'm watching Standard rn, but i'll do it for this channel. You win, Bosh.
(Not really mad cuz this league is dope af)
this title woke me up faster than my over-creamed coffee
Sounds like something else ended up being over-creamed too
As someone who got into mtg around original inistrad, ive always been a huge fan of hard control in standard. Even if i havent played standard since theros, its cool to see some standard content from time to time.
I loved this video! Standard is awesome and is so good to see it on MTGO
Standard is a format I play way more than I watch but your commentary really elevates the content, I would not be against seeing Standard on the channel again in the future even if it isn't regularly.
What was funny throughout this league was how most of the cards Brian was most familiar with I hadn't seen before, while most of the ones he didn't recognize were older cards I knew from back when I was paying attention to standard sets. Surprised I still knew any tbh, the 3 year rotation means stuff I expected to already be gone is still here.
Yeah Neon Dynasty and the Innistrad sets feel like a lifetime ago
@@BoshNRoll Bosh: "...a card I've NEVER seen in life..."
me: Oh, I actually know this card, from playing tons of Brothers' War sealed!
And then weirdly it happened a second time. (33:10 and 34:52)
It was a lot of fun to watch you figure out some B tier but still competitive decks like simic artifacts on the fly. Thanks for the change of pace!
Standard is cool right now, personally wouldn't mind more of it on the channel (in moderation)
I'll happily watch you play Standard so long as it's on MTGO and not on Arena!
Can't stand Arena
Arenas so trash. Literal rigged matchmaking. Card weight, rigged shuffler. So bad
Arena is excellent.
The rigged shuffler is only for bo1 matches to smooth out the hands. The card weighting is only for brawl and makes perfect sense, because it's not very fun to have a newer player with a significantly underpowered deck playing against top tier combo and control brawl decks constantly. You seem to have misunderstood or are misrepresenting every feature you're complaining about
@@GaryAsphodel
@@GaryAsphodelthe other problem is that arena is low enough stakes that nobody actually cares like they do on MTGO
Gotta love those OG copies of Duress in the sea of new frames.
Played golgari during standard here:
Shelly is pretty good to board, especially since it’s kinda tough to keep removal post board on the golgari side, but for the most part you navigated it perfectly
that deck from game 2 is an ashlizzle brew. when she first put it together she started off 32-1 on arena
Simic Cookies coming up clutch! Let's go!!!
I'm playing Jeskai and azorius control in standard, and I'm so impressed at how good Cover-Up is in control mirrors
1:09:50 Opponent taps an island for 139 blue mana. There are 7 Virtue of Strength. Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't it be 2187 mana? 1x3^7 mana per basic land
All I know is once you get that much mana, does it really matter?😂
MTGO hard caps mana production at 139, which is the byte limit.
@@anergyboy2192 That's interesting that it limits production to 139 of a certain type, but that's also where I'm even more confused. If just a simple 8 bit signed or unsigned integer, the limits would be -128 to 127 or 0 to 255. If we move up to a 16 bit integer, those limits go up to -32768 to 32767 or 0 to 65535.
Thanks for the information that it's a limited value, though. I guess it's kinda like how they limit tokens to 200 or something.
This is rarer than a shiny pokemon and I'm here for it
Hey, simic cookies! @Ashlizzlle has been pioneering this deck and I'm super excited to finish getting my wild cards for it on arena! 32:50
Honestly nice to see the standard splash in the boshnroll game play
“When life gives you nuts, make nut-ade” - Brian Coval, 2024
Seeing liliana of the veil in standard feels like home tbh
1:10:16 yeah thats my main gripe with standard control the selection is pretty bad so you kinda have to rely on your deck being in the right order more
if thou hast a bosh pack unleash a deluge of smoke and indulge in its enchanting fog
Standard?! A pleasant surprise, curious to see how it is
I think Bonny Pall is supposed to be female paul bunyan while beau is male babe the blue ox
This deck plays kinda like a lantern control deck.
Frankly, I'd much rather watch standard than modern right now. The gameplay is muvh better and more fun
boshnroll standard, heck yeah~
I was prepared to have to skip this one, but was pleasantly surprised to see that it was still MTGO and not Arena! I can't begrudge video creators for playing what they want (or feel they have to), but I do unfortunately find Arena completely unwatchable. (E.g. unfortunately-for-me, this is what happened with SaffronOlive's otherwise-lots-of-fun content.) Normally I would also say that I don't care much about Standard, but this video was really interesting, as were the decks on display. If you enjoyed it and do make more Standard MTGO videos, I for one would definitely watch them just like the Eternal videos!
i support you for playing standard to prep, id like to get back to friday night magic but i simply dont know how to get back into standard, let alone if it will be worth it
One Standard league every month or two is perfect!
Weird Legacy build but I’ll try it
Bring on more standard!
I dont think standard is bad per se, the main problem with standard is investing in relatively expensive cards that wont see play in any other format, but sometimes you can get away with that. As content, its super fine
I don't care about standard, but if it's for testing purposes for a big tournanent, i guess i can watch you play a competitive league. There are so many releases that i find it really hard to keep up with the meta.
my lgs has been running standard fnm recently, and getting to cast deduce shifted me back through time to where I keep referring to it as think twice.
My main complaint in Standard right now is that Midrange decks are squeezed. You either have Slickshot aggro, Boros Convoke aggro, various ramp strategies (5C Atraxa or Nissa Lands) and control.
What about Raffine? What about the 5C Legends? These are just control and ramp in disguise. Raffine runs lots of removal and creature interaction (Bat, Loran, Aven, Ertai, graveyard hate on the wolf or rat, etc.). And 5C Legends generally hits 7+ mana before the game is over between Slogurk and the Relic.
I wish standard was better on arena but the abuse of the non randomized starting hands is so savage i got really tired of it with the win grinding decks. I'd really wish for MTGA they would require you to play best of 3 for the hard grind by making it better overall so i can test my durdly cards, i used to have a really cool white/blue deck with dorothea around cheating them in as "attacking" to get around the sacrifice trigger but with the standard format mostly only losing cards on bans my deck got disproportionaly hit and i didnt feel like grinding out more cards. no money for magic, gotta be fed before that! The decks that you played all are so creative feels very nice
Wake up honey, new control deck dopped
BoshNRoll playing Standard?!? Heresy!!
CovertGoBosh?
Tidebinder the death trigger on Mosswood Dreadknight 😢
i believe that go for the throats should become shoot the sheriffs just in case of any of the izzet artifact decks out there.
STANDARD?!?!? What!?
4th deck is insane
Genuine question: why seed shark vs aggro? I'd assume that's a control grind engine
It has a big butt and makes more bodies. You have to beat them on board. You’re already built to out grind control and combo.
Standard…oof. But it’s cool you have a chance at the Pro Tour!
standard is awesome right now but watching it on mtgo is weirddd
caustic bronco?
It's in the video!
bosh pack its a good pack in the morning when youve got a podpack and a vidpack to roll up
STANDARD!??!?!?!? ok
a non standard way to experience standard
Standard?!?!
Bonnie Pall is a gender swapped paul bunyan. Her ox
, Beau is a gender swap of Paul's cow Babe.
MYSTERY PACK, WIELD EM IF YOU GOT EM
I'm sifting through packs, which one!?
Hello!
all your formats are belong to Bosh!
standard??? I like the variety
Throwing away edicts while expressing concern for planeswalkers makes me think you didn't realize what the edicts are actually in there for.
So many text on all these cards, I gotta say all the card draw and value in the modern card design version of standard is boring as hell. Allowing different archetypes to run out of gas, and also making decks have to work hard for value is something that magic would benefit from imo
People still play standard?
Eww, blasphemy haha